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Share Your Snake Oil Story...
I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story...
Mine comes from Lyric HiFi here in New York, when they tried to sell me little coin size metallic stickers. At $250.00 each, they supposedly improved the sound by "dampening the field-effect resonance" on your individual components. What??? I could hardly contain my laughter! Then there was the afternoon at Sound by Singer (a more appropriate name for this rug merchant would be 'Sound by Swindler'), where he had a customer convinced his prospective $500,000.00 system was so precise, that one could actually distinguish between two identically titled CD's - by the subtle differences on the pitted surface of the disk. I'm not even going to start sharing what salesmen have said while trying to sell me cables... A_C |
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How about those pyramid cones to isolate speakers from the mounting
surface------ I've watched proponents wax on and on about which direction to put the point-speaker or surface... "Agent_C" wrote in message oups.com... I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Mine comes from Lyric HiFi here in New York, when they tried to sell me little coin size metallic stickers. At $250.00 each, they supposedly improved the sound by "dampening the field-effect resonance" on your individual components. What??? I could hardly contain my laughter! Then there was the afternoon at Sound by Singer (a more appropriate name for this rug merchant would be 'Sound by Swindler'), where he had a customer convinced his prospective $500,000.00 system was so precise, that one could actually distinguish between two identically titled CD's - by the subtle differences on the pitted surface of the disk. I'm not even going to start sharing what salesmen have said while trying to sell me cables... A_C |
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"Dave Kowalski" wrote in message
How about those pyramid cones to isolate speakers from the mounting surface------ They can do a number on fine finshed floors. Oh, I get it - you need some sort of magical thing to put under them for only $95.00 each or $395 for a set of 4. I've watched proponents wax on and on about which direction to put the point-speaker or surface... Yeah, some say that the pointy tip-toes under components act like mechanical rectifiers. I would think that would be a bad thing - generates nonlinear distortion. |
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"Agent_C" wrote in message
oups.com I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Recently I got John Atkinson of Stereophile to confirm that SP ran an article about the sonic advantages of treating CDs with Armor All. In fact the result was damaged CDs. |
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Agent_C wrote:
Then there was the afternoon at Sound by Singer (a more appropriate name for this rug merchant would be 'Sound by Swindler'), where he had a customer convinced his prospective $500,000.00 system was so precise, that one could actually distinguish between two identically titled CD's - by the subtle differences on the pitted surface of the disk. But that's the case with nearly any playback system. The pitted surface of the disk contains the data. You play back an early pressing of an album mastered flat, then you play back a later pressing that is compressed to hell, and there will sure be substantial audible differences on the same title. And those differences is because the data on the disc is different... on the pitted surfaces. Okay, they aren't maybe subtle differences. In the case of some albums they are anything BUT subtle.... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
Agent_C wrote: Then there was the afternoon at Sound by Singer (a more appropriate name for this rug merchant would be 'Sound by Swindler'), where he had a customer convinced his prospective $500,000.00 system was so precise, that one could actually distinguish between two identically titled CD's - by the subtle differences on the pitted surface of the disk. But that's the case with nearly any playback system. The pitted surface of the disk contains the data. You play back an early pressing of an album mastered flat, then you play back a later pressing that is compressed to hell, and there will sure be substantial audible differences on the same title. And those differences is because the data on the disc is different... on the pitted surfaces. Okay, they aren't maybe subtle differences. In the case of some albums they are anything BUT subtle.... Isn't this kinda begging the question, Scott? What the high priests at Singer are claiming is that identical data on CDs pressed right after each other with the same dies can be reasonably be expected to sound different, due to the extreme resolution of their megabuck CD players. And you know what, I can prove this to be true. All it takes is a properly-tuned finger print on one of the otherwise-identical CDs. If a $30,000 or even a $3,000 sale were contingent, I might be tempted... |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Dave Kowalski" wrote in message How about those pyramid cones to isolate speakers from the mounting surface------ They can do a number on fine finshed floors. Oh, I get it - you need some sort of magical thing to put under them for only $95.00 each or $395 for a set of 4. I've watched proponents wax on and on about which direction to put the point-speaker or surface... Yeah, some say that the pointy tip-toes under components act like mechanical rectifiers. I would think that would be a bad thing - generates nonlinear distortion. ever hear if the "lunar gravity compensator" for tone arms? this cam comes with a tide chart and is used to adjust tracking force to compensate for the slight gravitational pull of the moon. |
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One of my personal favorites...oh yeah....these look like a good
investment...not! Tekna Sonic C-5 BookShelf Speaker Enhancer - Pair $79.95 Even the finest speakers have cabinet vibrations that make bass notes muddy or boomy, and distort the midrange. Now Tekna Sonic offers a simple solution guaranteed to improve bass and midrange clarity. C-5 vibration absorbers feature an array of polymer damping plates - selectively tuned to frequencies in the 20-1kHz range - which attach magnetically to the back of the speaker cabinet. "Dave Kowalski" wrote in message ... How about those pyramid cones to isolate speakers from the mounting surface------ I've watched proponents wax on and on about which direction to put the point-speaker or surface... "Agent_C" wrote in message oups.com... I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Mine comes from Lyric HiFi here in New York, when they tried to sell me little coin size metallic stickers. At $250.00 each, they supposedly improved the sound by "dampening the field-effect resonance" on your individual components. What??? I could hardly contain my laughter! Then there was the afternoon at Sound by Singer (a more appropriate name for this rug merchant would be 'Sound by Swindler'), where he had a customer convinced his prospective $500,000.00 system was so precise, that one could actually distinguish between two identically titled CD's - by the subtle differences on the pitted surface of the disk. I'm not even going to start sharing what salesmen have said while trying to sell me cables... A_C |
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On 3/3/05 8:51 AM, in article , "Dave Kowalski"
wrote: How about those pyramid cones to isolate speakers from the mounting surface------ I've watched proponents wax on and on about which direction to put the point-speaker or surface... "Agent_C" wrote in message oups.com... I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Mine comes from Lyric HiFi here in New York, when they tried to sell me little coin size metallic stickers. At $250.00 each, they supposedly improved the sound by "dampening the field-effect resonance" on your individual components. What??? I could hardly contain my laughter! Then there was the afternoon at Sound by Singer (a more appropriate name for this rug merchant would be 'Sound by Swindler'), where he had a customer convinced his prospective $500,000.00 system was so precise, that one could actually distinguish between two identically titled CD's - by the subtle differences on the pitted surface of the disk. I'm not even going to start sharing what salesmen have said while trying to sell me cables... I confess to having a set of these ceramic doodads for my little Tannoys, bought soley because the Tannoy tech folks said they indeed were worth having. At $5 a set I wasn;t worried for the experiment. I'm still not sure if the black ones sound darker than the brown ones. |
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Agent_C wrote: I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Mine comes from Lyric HiFi here in New York, when they tried to sell me little coin size metallic stickers. At $250.00 each, they supposedly improved the sound by "dampening the field-effect resonance" on your individual components. What??? I could hardly contain my laughter! Then there was the afternoon at Sound by Singer (a more appropriate name for this rug merchant would be 'Sound by Swindler'), where he had a customer convinced his prospective $500,000.00 system was so precise, that one could actually distinguish between two identically titled CD's - by the subtle differences on the pitted surface of the disk. I'm not even going to start sharing what salesmen have said while trying to sell me cables... A_C My favorites are those little teflon sticks being sold to audiofools to support speaker cables up off and away from the lossy dielectric plastic fibers in your carpet. Mark |
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In rec.audio.tech Arny Krueger wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message Agent_C wrote: Then there was the afternoon at Sound by Singer (a more appropriate name for this rug merchant would be 'Sound by Swindler'), where he had a customer convinced his prospective $500,000.00 system was so precise, that one could actually distinguish between two identically titled CD's - by the subtle differences on the pitted surface of the disk. But that's the case with nearly any playback system. The pitted surface of the disk contains the data. You play back an early pressing of an album mastered flat, then you play back a later pressing that is compressed to hell, and there will sure be substantial audible differences on the same title. And those differences is because the data on the disc is different... on the pitted surfaces. Okay, they aren't maybe subtle differences. In the case of some albums they are anything BUT subtle.... Isn't this kinda begging the question, Scott? What the high priests at Singer are claiming is that identical data on CDs pressed right after each other with the same dies can be reasonably be expected to sound different, due to the extreme resolution of their megabuck CD players. *Possibly* the Singer folk claim that too -- having shopped in the NYC hi-end dens, I won't put anything past Singer and Lyric, veritable temples of tweakdom and snake-oil -- but Agent C only said the CDs were *identically titled* -- which could include remastered CDs, which certainly do tend to sound different from previous editions....and have different pits too ; That's what Scott is getting at. Of course even a $500 system, or a $15 portable discman, could reveal audible difference between many remastered CDs... -- -S It's not my business to do intelligent work. -- D. Rumsfeld, testifying before the House Armed Services Committee |
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TimPerry wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Dave Kowalski" wrote in message How about those pyramid cones to isolate speakers from the mounting surface------ They can do a number on fine finshed floors. Oh, I get it - you need some sort of magical thing to put under them for only $95.00 each or $395 for a set of 4. I've watched proponents wax on and on about which direction to put the point-speaker or surface... Yeah, some say that the pointy tip-toes under components act like mechanical rectifiers. I would think that would be a bad thing - generates nonlinear distortion. ever hear if the "lunar gravity compensator" for tone arms? this cam comes with a tide chart and is used to adjust tracking force to compensate for the slight gravitational pull of the moon. So THAT's why my turntable sounds funny when I'm playing it on the beach, and it always co-incided with high tide Oh, and the sand inside my motor bearings, do they have something for that, too? CD |
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 09:06:57 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "Dave Kowalski" wrote in message How about those pyramid cones to isolate speakers from the mounting surface------ They can do a number on fine finshed floors. Oh, I get it - you need some sort of magical thing to put under them for only $95.00 each or $395 for a set of 4. Kruger Rands would surely be the best? :-) -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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"Codifus" wrote in message ... TimPerry wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Dave Kowalski" wrote in message How about those pyramid cones to isolate speakers from the mounting surface------ They can do a number on fine finshed floors. Oh, I get it - you need some sort of magical thing to put under them for only $95.00 each or $395 for a set of 4. I've watched proponents wax on and on about which direction to put the point-speaker or surface... Yeah, some say that the pointy tip-toes under components act like mechanical rectifiers. I would think that would be a bad thing - generates nonlinear distortion. ever hear if the "lunar gravity compensator" for tone arms? this cam comes with a tide chart and is used to adjust tracking force to compensate for the slight gravitational pull of the moon. So THAT's why my turntable sounds funny when I'm playing it on the beach, and it always co-incided with high tide Oh, and the sand inside my motor bearings, do they have something for that, too? CD remember the "ZeroStat" gun for records? all you need is the Megastat Cannon (tm) to create an instant static repulsion field for ANY electronic device. perfect for drunken beach parties. as an added feature the Megastat Cannon (tm) actually attracts topless babes. |
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"John" wrote in message ... On 3/3/05 8:51 AM, in article , "Dave Kowalski" wrote: How about those pyramid cones to isolate speakers from the mounting surface------ I've watched proponents wax on and on about which direction to put the point-speaker or surface... "Agent_C" wrote in message oups.com... I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Mine comes from Lyric HiFi here in New York, when they tried to sell me little coin size metallic stickers. At $250.00 each, they supposedly improved the sound by "dampening the field-effect resonance" on your individual components. What??? I could hardly contain my laughter! Then there was the afternoon at Sound by Singer (a more appropriate name for this rug merchant would be 'Sound by Swindler'), where he had a customer convinced his prospective $500,000.00 system was so precise, that one could actually distinguish between two identically titled CD's - by the subtle differences on the pitted surface of the disk. I'm not even going to start sharing what salesmen have said while trying to sell me cables... I confess to having a set of these ceramic doodads for my little Tannoys, bought soley because the Tannoy tech folks said they indeed were worth having. At $5 a set I wasn;t worried for the experiment. I'm still not sure if the black ones sound darker than the brown ones. they probably sound "warmer" as the black exterior absorbs more heat and as we all know a warmer objects molecules move faster. ... maybe nickel plated ones are needed for heavy metal music? |
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My favorites are those little teflon sticks being sold to audiofools to support speaker cables up off and away from the lossy dielectric plastic fibers in your carpet. Mark hey that a new one! where can i see it? |
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"TimPerry" wrote in message ... "Codifus" wrote in message ... TimPerry wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Dave Kowalski" wrote in message How about those pyramid cones to isolate speakers from the mounting surface------ They can do a number on fine finshed floors. Oh, I get it - you need some sort of magical thing to put under them for only $95.00 each or $395 for a set of 4. I've watched proponents wax on and on about which direction to put the point-speaker or surface... Yeah, some say that the pointy tip-toes under components act like mechanical rectifiers. I would think that would be a bad thing - generates nonlinear distortion. ever hear if the "lunar gravity compensator" for tone arms? this cam comes with a tide chart and is used to adjust tracking force to compensate for the slight gravitational pull of the moon. So THAT's why my turntable sounds funny when I'm playing it on the beach, and it always co-incided with high tide Oh, and the sand inside my motor bearings, do they have something for that, too? CD remember the "ZeroStat" gun for records? all you need is the Megastat Cannon (tm) to create an instant static repulsion field for ANY electronic device. perfect for drunken beach parties. as an added feature the Megastat Cannon (tm) actually attracts topless babes. Yeeeeaaaah baby! I have a stat cannon in my pile-o-laughter here in my office!!! Chad |
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Agent_C wrote:
I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Mine comes from Lyric HiFi here in New York, when they tried to sell me little coin size metallic stickers. At $250.00 each, they supposedly improved the sound by "dampening the field-effect resonance" on your individual components. What??? I could hardly contain my laughter! Then there was the afternoon at Sound by Singer (a more appropriate name for this rug merchant would be 'Sound by Swindler'), where he had a customer convinced his prospective $500,000.00 system was so precise, that one could actually distinguish between two identically titled CD's - by the subtle differences on the pitted surface of the disk. I'm not even going to start sharing what salesmen have said while trying to sell me cables... A_C Not as "off the wall" as some of the tales here, but when shopping for an MD for sound effects playback in a theatre, I was told by spotty yoof in Richer Sounds that "player X had a better sound because it went through fewer buttons on the front panel than player Y". Needless to say, I did laugh in his face and, quite loudly, explained to the whole shop that he new dip-**** about audio. Might just have lost them a few sales that day. I DID buy one of them, just happened to be the one with more knobs/buttons. There again, I was only really interested in one feature; "Can you set it to pause after each track?" |
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Agent_C wrote:
I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Some of my favorite snake oil products have come from the Shakti company: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/audiovideo.htm They not only improve your audio, but the same technology will make your car run better! http://www.shakti-innovations.com/automotive.htm And here's their latest innovation: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/hallograph.htm |
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"Jim Gilliland" wrote in message... And here's their latest innovation: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/hallograph.htm Oh my.... :-\ |
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I think someone needs to collect all this stuff and put it on one
website... www.audiofraud.org or something. It would be a public service. Al On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:54:38 -0500, Jim Gilliland wrote: Agent_C wrote: I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Some of my favorite snake oil products have come from the Shakti company: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/audiovideo.htm They not only improve your audio, but the same technology will make your car run better! http://www.shakti-innovations.com/automotive.htm And here's their latest innovation: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/hallograph.htm |
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"Andrew Chesters" wrote in message ... Agent_C wrote: I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Mine comes from Lyric HiFi here in New York, when they tried to sell me little coin size metallic stickers. At $250.00 each, they supposedly improved the sound by "dampening the field-effect resonance" on your individual components. What??? I could hardly contain my laughter! Then there was the afternoon at Sound by Singer (a more appropriate name for this rug merchant would be 'Sound by Swindler'), where he had a customer convinced his prospective $500,000.00 system was so precise, that one could actually distinguish between two identically titled CD's - by the subtle differences on the pitted surface of the disk. I'm not even going to start sharing what salesmen have said while trying to sell me cables... A_C Not as "off the wall" as some of the tales here, but when shopping for an MD for sound effects playback in a theatre, I was told by spotty yoof in Richer Sounds that "player X had a better sound because it went through fewer buttons on the front panel than player Y". Needless to say, I did laugh in his face and, quite loudly, explained to the whole shop that he new dip-**** about audio. Might just have lost them a few sales that day. I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the company which sells wooden *control knobs* for stereo equipment! They claim all sorts of 'subtle' sonic advantages when compared to the original plastic or metal ones.... jak I DID buy one of them, just happened to be the one with more knobs/buttons. There again, I was only really interested in one feature; "Can you set it to pause after each track?" |
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David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
"Jim Gilliland" wrote in message... And here's their latest innovation: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/hallograph.htm Oh my.... :-\ They've been in business for over a decade! |
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Jim Gilliland wrote: Agent_C wrote: I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Some of my favorite snake oil products have come from the Shakti company: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/audiovideo.htm They not only improve your audio, but the same technology will make your car run better! http://www.shakti-innovations.com/automotive.htm And here's their latest innovation: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/hallograph.htm Those things improve the sound in the room so much that they make it *look* like there's a violin in the room with you! Amazing. Karl Winkler Lectrsonics, Inc. http://www.lectrsonics.com |
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 20:21:09 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
wrote: "Jim Gilliland" wrote in message... And here's their latest innovation: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/hallograph.htm Oh my.... :-\ They say they have a patent pending for that... wonder if it's true. What are the patent regulations, does the patented invention actually have to work, or can any crazy thing be patented? Al |
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On 3 Mar 2005 13:25:07 -0800, "Karl Winkler"
wrote: Jim Gilliland wrote: Agent_C wrote: I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Some of my favorite snake oil products have come from the Shakti company: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/audiovideo.htm They not only improve your audio, but the same technology will make your car run better! http://www.shakti-innovations.com/automotive.htm And here's their latest innovation: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/hallograph.htm Those things improve the sound in the room so much that they make it *look* like there's a violin in the room with you! Amazing. They had to have something real in the picture to give it some cred. Al |
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They say they have a patent pending for that... wonder if it's true.
What are the patent regulations, does the patented invention actually have to work, or can any crazy thing be patented? In theory, a patented invention must be "useful", "novel", and "non-obvious". Most would say that "useful" requires that it actually work, at least to some extent. It used to be the case, long ago, that you had to actually build at least a working model and be able to demonstrate that the device worked. However, in practice, the rules have changed. Many patent claims are allowed based solely on a description (which must, again in principle, be sufficiently detailed to allow someone skilled in the art to reproduce the invention as described) and no working model is ever presented. It's also clear that many patent examiners are content to accept the filer's explanation about how and why the invention works, and that they're sometimes woefully ignorant of the actual state of the art and of the existence of relevant prior art. On the other hand, "patent pending" simply means that they've filed. It doesn't mean that the patent has been issued, or has even been allowed and is on the way to being issued. It's entirely possible that most or all of their claims have been, or will be laughed out of court by the patent examiner. Even if they do have a valid patent claim in the works, there's nothing definite to say that their flowery public description about how their product is supposed to work, corresponds at all closely to the wording in the patent claims. They might have filed a patent claim for some narrowly-worded aspect of the design of this specific product (e.g. a specific size and shape of the ripples), without trying to claim wider coverage via a "utility" patent and its description and claims. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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TimPerry wrote: My favorites are those little teflon sticks being sold to audiofools to support speaker cables up off and away from the lossy dielectric plastic fibers in your carpet. Mark hey that a new one! where can i see it? http://www.xit.net/kenan/testimonials.htm or google these keywords "speaker cables" "off the floor" its off the wall if you ask me :-) Mark |
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"Jim Gilliland" wrote in message ... David Morgan (MAMS) wrote: "Jim Gilliland" wrote in message... And here's their latest innovation: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/hallograph.htm Oh my.... :-\ They've been in business for over a decade! No wonder the political situation is like it is.... |
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"Dave Platt" wrote in message
... They say they have a patent pending for that... wonder if it's true. What are the patent regulations, does the patented invention actually have to work, or can any crazy thing be patented? In theory, a patented invention must be "useful", "novel", and "non-obvious". Most would say that "useful" requires that it actually work, at least to some extent. It used to be the case, long ago, that you had to actually build at least a working model and be able to demonstrate that the device worked. They say one of the simplest patents ever granted was for the number 1.65. It was granted to Phillip H. Smith as the optimum diameter ratio for a coaxial transmission line. Not often I get to use that bit of trivia. dtk |
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Jim Gilliland wrote:
David Morgan (MAMS) wrote: "Jim Gilliland" wrote in message... And here's their latest innovation: http://www.shakti-innovations.com/hallograph.htm Oh my.... :-\ They've been in business for over a decade! The current "SBEM"* rate of 1 is still probably about the same as it was in P.T. Barnum's day, so that would come out to about 1/2 a million new SPEM's every year, or 5,000,000 SBEM in a decade. That's a healthy market share. *SBEM = "Sucker Born Every Minute" Harvey Gerst Indian Trail Recording Studio http://www.ITRstudio.com/ |
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And the winner is..... http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Me.../merchant.mvc? Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C&Category_Code=V OLUME&Product_Count=2 |
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In article ,
dt king wrote: In theory, a patented invention must be "useful", "novel", and "non-obvious". Most would say that "useful" requires that it actually work, at least to some extent. It used to be the case, long ago, that you had to actually build at least a working model and be able to demonstrate that the device worked. They say one of the simplest patents ever granted was for the number 1.65. It was granted to Phillip H. Smith as the optimum diameter ratio for a coaxial transmission line. Neat - that's the ratio which gives the lowest loss per weight/cost of materials given standard (WW II) dielectrics, right? -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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In article ,
TimPerry wrote: remember the "ZeroStat" gun for records? I remember that it worked quite well if you used it properly. And used improperly it also did a fine job of getting your kid sister out of your room. |
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 05:43:04 -0800, Agent_C wrote:
I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... When I was a kid back in the early 70's, I went with a fellow audiophile friend of mine to BrandsMart which was a place where you needed a membership card to get in. We went to the audio section and they had quite a selection of equipment there at all price ranges. Anyway, my friend wanted to buy some speakers so we were audtioning all the ones on this giant wall of speakers with this remote control thing that allowed us to switch between various models. He like the sound of some mid-line BOSE speakers, not the 901's, but some box model like 601 or 301 or something like that. We commented to the salesman who happened to be this black guy who looked exactly like Nipsey Russel or Dr. J of the Nets that the sound seemed to be coming from everywhere when we switched to the Bose speakers. He blurted out in this 1970's ghetto accent "Maaaannnnnn THAT'S da TRICK of Da BOSE"!!!!! We quickly figured out that the "trick of the Bose" was having another 10 speakers playing at the same time!!!!! I'll never forget it!!! BTW he bought a set of Advents and the guy gave him a great deal on them, but it was very funny at the time! -- Glenn O'Toole "Lounge Lizard Extraordinaire and master of the bagpipes" |
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On 3 Mar 2005 05:43:04 -0800, "Agent_C"
wrote: I'm sure we all have our favorite snake oil story... Here is my partial collection. About 0.01% of what is out there. http://www.amusicdirect.com/products...380&sku=AAQEV8 http://gallery.consumerreview.com/au...es/opus-mm.asp http://www.bybeetech.com/ http://www.amusicdirect.com/products...=280&sku=AELEV http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina27.htm http://www.altmann.haan.de/tubeolator/default.htm http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina28.htm http://www.scamshield.com/Feature.asp?id=1 Regards, Boris Mohar Got Knock? - see: Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs (among other things) http://www.viatrack.ca |
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"Mike Diack" wrote in message .. . And the winner is..... http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Me.../merchant.mvc? Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C&Category_Code=V OLUME&Product_Count=2 oh yes... i wonder what a "Audio Consulting AC Isolation Transformer ($340 Installed)" is? |
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"TimPerry" wrote in message ... "Mike Diack" wrote in message .. . And the winner is..... http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Me.../merchant.mvc? Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C&Category_Code=V OLUME&Product_Count=2 oh yes... i wonder what a "Audio Consulting AC Isolation Transformer ($340 Installed)" is? And honestly... I haven't tried listening to many power conditioners lately, either. |
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"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message news:esOVd.20090$QQ3.18031@trnddc02... "TimPerry" wrote in message ... "Mike Diack" wrote in message .. . And the winner is..... http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Me.../merchant.mvc? Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NOB_C37_C&Category_Code=V OLUME&Product_Count=2 oh yes... i wonder what a "Audio Consulting AC Isolation Transformer ($340 Installed)" is? And honestly... I haven't tried listening to many power conditioners lately, either. What's the best-sounding power conditioner for under... (oh never mind). Neil Henderson |
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