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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 13:42:01 -0400, George M. Middius
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Dogma4e said:

It's obnoxious to encourage Bwian McCarty. Please stop.


Sorry, George. I'm one-dimensional, as far as RAO is concerned and
haven't paid much attention to that particular RAO trainwreck. It
just seems our paths are pionting in the same direction for a while.


Do you still enjoy apologizing for Arnii Krooger?



I've come to the conclusion that everyone on RAO gets what they
deserve. And most of them are asking for it. However, I will add
that Arny has politely answered the one or two questions I have asked
that had anything to do with audio. You answered one yourself.
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:35:06 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Dogma4e wrote:

Well, as ye sow, so shall ye reap. Right, Greg?




I agree with you, anonymouse. Everybody on the newsgroup should get
their chance to behave like trash, and nobody missed a turn. In one way
you're correct: this *is* about ego. I don't know why I feel compelled
to prove that I'm better than everybody else, but I certainly am here.

Now, would you care to tell the group why you are so afraid that you
have to remain an anonymous piece of trash?

We've been over this before, gerg. You had your chance, and you
pussed out. Live with it, loser.
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:35:06 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Dogma4e wrote:

Well, as ye sow, so shall ye reap. Right, Greg?




I agree with you, anonymouse. Everybody on the newsgroup should get
their chance to behave like trash, and nobody missed a turn. In one way
you're correct: this *is* about ego. I don't know why I feel compelled
to prove that I'm better than everybody else, but I certainly am here.

Now, would you care to tell the group why you are so afraid that you
have to remain an anonymous piece of trash?

We've been over this before, gerg. You had your chance, and you
pussed out. Live with it, loser.
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"trotsky" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote:

A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.



"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"? It blows my mind that a
bunch of supposedly grown men sit around and talk trash in this manner.
And, of course, you Bob are the biggest hypocrite of them
all--although that's admittedly a long list. Dogging me with your Brian
McCarty like tactics--amazing. I suppose you're already getting your
just desserts because you're such a bad writer; misery loves company.
The only consolation I have is that even a whole newsgroup of beatoffs
and anonymice can't stand toe to toe with me. Oh, and that I've got an
excellent product and you don't. That's got to really burn you, eh Bob?

They've stood toe to toe and beat the living **** out of you. You're just
to stupid to know it.


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"trotsky" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote:

A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.



"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"? It blows my mind that a
bunch of supposedly grown men sit around and talk trash in this manner.
And, of course, you Bob are the biggest hypocrite of them
all--although that's admittedly a long list. Dogging me with your Brian
McCarty like tactics--amazing. I suppose you're already getting your
just desserts because you're such a bad writer; misery loves company.
The only consolation I have is that even a whole newsgroup of beatoffs
and anonymice can't stand toe to toe with me. Oh, and that I've got an
excellent product and you don't. That's got to really burn you, eh Bob?

They've stood toe to toe and beat the living **** out of you. You're just
to stupid to know it.




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"trotsky" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote:

A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.



"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"? It blows my mind that a
bunch of supposedly grown men sit around and talk trash in this manner.
And, of course, you Bob are the biggest hypocrite of them
all--although that's admittedly a long list. Dogging me with your Brian
McCarty like tactics--amazing. I suppose you're already getting your
just desserts because you're such a bad writer; misery loves company.


When I want misery, I'll just listen to a pair of Europas.


How do you know? You have never heard any.




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"trotsky" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote:

A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.



"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"? It blows my mind that a
bunch of supposedly grown men sit around and talk trash in this manner.
And, of course, you Bob are the biggest hypocrite of them
all--although that's admittedly a long list. Dogging me with your Brian
McCarty like tactics--amazing. I suppose you're already getting your
just desserts because you're such a bad writer; misery loves company.


When I want misery, I'll just listen to a pair of Europas.


How do you know? You have never heard any.




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Dogma4e wrote:

Well, as ye sow, so shall ye reap. Right, Greg?




I agree with you, anonymouse. Everybody on the newsgroup should get
their chance to behave like trash, and nobody missed a turn. In one way
you're correct: this *is* about ego. I don't know why I feel compelled
to prove that I'm better than everybody else, but I certainly am here.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahaha
yehehahohehehehhahoohahehohahahahahahahohahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha
hohohohohohahaha.

All this time I thought it was an act, you really are an idiot without the
least bit of introspection.

Please do yourself a favor and and stick your finger in a light socket and
turn on the juice. Maybe some shock treatment will do you some good.


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Dogma4e wrote:

Well, as ye sow, so shall ye reap. Right, Greg?




I agree with you, anonymouse. Everybody on the newsgroup should get
their chance to behave like trash, and nobody missed a turn. In one way
you're correct: this *is* about ego. I don't know why I feel compelled
to prove that I'm better than everybody else, but I certainly am here.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahaha
yehehahohehehehhahoohahehohahahahahahahohahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha
hohohohohohahaha.

All this time I thought it was an act, you really are an idiot without the
least bit of introspection.

Please do yourself a favor and and stick your finger in a light socket and
turn on the juice. Maybe some shock treatment will do you some good.


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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:59 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Joseph Oberlander wrote:
trotsky wrote:



Robert Morein wrote:

A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.




"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"?



Well, the adhesive you used on the stuffing *is* flammable.



You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.

Your "input" has been trash from day one, Joe. At least you had one
moment of clarity when you admitted you were a troll.


And you call that a competent test of the flammability of your
speakers? For Christ's sake, why don't you pony up and bring a set
over to Underwriter's Lab? I think they're in your neck of the woods.
Take a schematic. They will overdrive them for several hours, measure
delta T, and if they don't blow up you will have a UL listing.
Probably cost you about $2,400, and they'll let you pay ove time.
They'll want to inspect your cough, cough... factory, but they've seen
worse.

If you choose to go this route, you should get a copy of the UL
Standard (probably in the 500 series), and make sure your stuff fits
within the requirements. Are the Silver Flutes UL listed or UL
registered?


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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:59 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Joseph Oberlander wrote:
trotsky wrote:



Robert Morein wrote:

A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.




"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"?



Well, the adhesive you used on the stuffing *is* flammable.



You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.

Your "input" has been trash from day one, Joe. At least you had one
moment of clarity when you admitted you were a troll.


And you call that a competent test of the flammability of your
speakers? For Christ's sake, why don't you pony up and bring a set
over to Underwriter's Lab? I think they're in your neck of the woods.
Take a schematic. They will overdrive them for several hours, measure
delta T, and if they don't blow up you will have a UL listing.
Probably cost you about $2,400, and they'll let you pay ove time.
They'll want to inspect your cough, cough... factory, but they've seen
worse.

If you choose to go this route, you should get a copy of the UL
Standard (probably in the 500 series), and make sure your stuff fits
within the requirements. Are the Silver Flutes UL listed or UL
registered?
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:41:21 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Dogma4e wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:35:06 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Dogma4e wrote:


Well, as ye sow, so shall ye reap. Right, Greg?



I agree with you, anonymouse. Everybody on the newsgroup should get
their chance to behave like trash, and nobody missed a turn. In one way
you're correct: this *is* about ego. I don't know why I feel compelled
to prove that I'm better than everybody else, but I certainly am here.

Now, would you care to tell the group why you are so afraid that you
have to remain an anonymous piece of trash?


We've been over this before, gerg. You had your chance, and you
pussed out. Live with it, loser.




I guess I didn't understand your last post: what do you then deserve as
an anonymouse? Be as specific as possible, please.


Like a castle in its corner,
in a medieval game,
I forsee terrible trouble,
Yet I stay here just the same.

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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:41:21 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Dogma4e wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 18:35:06 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Dogma4e wrote:


Well, as ye sow, so shall ye reap. Right, Greg?



I agree with you, anonymouse. Everybody on the newsgroup should get
their chance to behave like trash, and nobody missed a turn. In one way
you're correct: this *is* about ego. I don't know why I feel compelled
to prove that I'm better than everybody else, but I certainly am here.

Now, would you care to tell the group why you are so afraid that you
have to remain an anonymous piece of trash?


We've been over this before, gerg. You had your chance, and you
pussed out. Live with it, loser.




I guess I didn't understand your last post: what do you then deserve as
an anonymouse? Be as specific as possible, please.


Like a castle in its corner,
in a medieval game,
I forsee terrible trouble,
Yet I stay here just the same.

-- Bryan Fairy
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"George M. Middius" wrote in message
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Sockpuppet Yustabe said:

When I want misery, I'll just listen to a pair of Europas.


How do you know? You have never heard any.


I think he means he'd experience misery knowing somebody had actually
paid Gregipus some money for those grotesquely overpriced symbols of
the Mommy****er's twisted psyche.

Right, Bobo?

That would be part of it.

Another aspect would be the misery of being the only person who ever
actually purchased a pair, albeit through an intermediary.

They might not sound too good either, note.


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"George M. Middius" wrote in message
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Sockpuppet Yustabe said:

When I want misery, I'll just listen to a pair of Europas.


How do you know? You have never heard any.


I think he means he'd experience misery knowing somebody had actually
paid Gregipus some money for those grotesquely overpriced symbols of
the Mommy****er's twisted psyche.

Right, Bobo?

That would be part of it.

Another aspect would be the misery of being the only person who ever
actually purchased a pair, albeit through an intermediary.

They might not sound too good either, note.




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"Dogma4e" wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:20:40 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Dogma4e wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:59 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Joseph Oberlander wrote:

trotsky wrote:



Robert Morein wrote:


A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.




"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"?


Well, the adhesive you used on the stuffing *is* flammable.


You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.

Your "input" has been trash from day one, Joe. At least you had one
moment of clarity when you admitted you were a troll.



And you call that a competent test of the flammability of your
speakers? For Christ's sake, why don't you pony up and bring a set
over to Underwriter's Lab?



Is it "straw man" or "straw mouse" in your case? Are you saying the
dumb ****ing *******s that I mentioned look for UL listings to buy

speakers?

No. I say product liability underwriters look for it, as do owners of
companies that want some legal cover and some peace of mind against
causing some irrevocable damage.

And did I read that wrong, or did you just identify your target
customers as "dumb ****ing *******s"?


That's what I heard, and it explains a lot.


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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:20:40 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Dogma4e wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:59 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Joseph Oberlander wrote:

trotsky wrote:



Robert Morein wrote:


A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.




"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"?


Well, the adhesive you used on the stuffing *is* flammable.


You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.

Your "input" has been trash from day one, Joe. At least you had one
moment of clarity when you admitted you were a troll.



And you call that a competent test of the flammability of your
speakers? For Christ's sake, why don't you pony up and bring a set
over to Underwriter's Lab?



Is it "straw man" or "straw mouse" in your case? Are you saying the
dumb ****ing *******s that I mentioned look for UL listings to buy

speakers?

No. I say product liability underwriters look for it, as do owners of
companies that want some legal cover and some peace of mind against
causing some irrevocable damage.

And did I read that wrong, or did you just identify your target
customers as "dumb ****ing *******s"?


That's what I heard, and it explains a lot.


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"Michael Mckelvy" wrote in message
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"trotsky" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote:

A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.



"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"? It blows my mind that a
bunch of supposedly grown men sit around and talk trash in this manner.
And, of course, you Bob are the biggest hypocrite of them
all--although that's admittedly a long list. Dogging me with your Brian
McCarty like tactics--amazing. I suppose you're already getting your
just desserts because you're such a bad writer; misery loves company.
The only consolation I have is that even a whole newsgroup of beatoffs
and anonymice can't stand toe to toe with me. Oh, and that I've got an
excellent product and you don't. That's got to really burn you, eh Bob?

They've stood toe to toe and beat the living **** out of you. You're just
to stupid to know it.

That, of course, is why my conscience is clear.
If he should start to feel some hurt, we could credit ourselves for bringing
Trotsky out of his emotional coma.


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"Michael Mckelvy" wrote in message
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"trotsky" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote:

A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.



"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"? It blows my mind that a
bunch of supposedly grown men sit around and talk trash in this manner.
And, of course, you Bob are the biggest hypocrite of them
all--although that's admittedly a long list. Dogging me with your Brian
McCarty like tactics--amazing. I suppose you're already getting your
just desserts because you're such a bad writer; misery loves company.
The only consolation I have is that even a whole newsgroup of beatoffs
and anonymice can't stand toe to toe with me. Oh, and that I've got an
excellent product and you don't. That's got to really burn you, eh Bob?

They've stood toe to toe and beat the living **** out of you. You're just
to stupid to know it.

That, of course, is why my conscience is clear.
If he should start to feel some hurt, we could credit ourselves for bringing
Trotsky out of his emotional coma.


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Dogma4e wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:18:38 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:



Dogma4e said:

[snip]


Please don't encourage Mc****head.



It doesn't look like he needs much encouragement. Matter of fact, it
is pretty interesting to watch the dynamic of Jupiter Audio's
presentation here at RAO. If you look at the first few dozen posts in
the original "Here It Is" thread, the vast majority were encouraging
and even respectful of gerg's effort. If gerg had somehow undergone a
personality transplant, he probably could have gathered good
suggestions on how to market and improve his product,


Actually, many people, including myself gave him advice. He stuck his
head in the sand and refused to listen.

Second that.
Greg, don't use your cordless screwdriver around glued-in stuffing.
You might get your finger caught in the stuffing-cum-glue, and be forced to
think of a solution.




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Dogma4e wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 10:18:38 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote:



Dogma4e said:

[snip]


Please don't encourage Mc****head.



It doesn't look like he needs much encouragement. Matter of fact, it
is pretty interesting to watch the dynamic of Jupiter Audio's
presentation here at RAO. If you look at the first few dozen posts in
the original "Here It Is" thread, the vast majority were encouraging
and even respectful of gerg's effort. If gerg had somehow undergone a
personality transplant, he probably could have gathered good
suggestions on how to market and improve his product,


Actually, many people, including myself gave him advice. He stuck his
head in the sand and refused to listen.

Second that.
Greg, don't use your cordless screwdriver around glued-in stuffing.
You might get your finger caught in the stuffing-cum-glue, and be forced to
think of a solution.


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"Robert Morein" wrote in message
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"George M. Middius" wrote in message
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Sockpuppet Yustabe said:

When I want misery, I'll just listen to a pair of Europas.


How do you know? You have never heard any.


I think he means he'd experience misery knowing somebody had actually
paid Gregipus some money for those grotesquely overpriced symbols of
the Mommy****er's twisted psyche.

Right, Bobo?

That would be part of it.

Another aspect would be the misery of being the only person who ever
actually purchased a pair, albeit through an intermediary.

They might not sound too good either, note.



The only information we have is second hand, i.e. Dave's incomplete report,
which was not all that bad, but not indicating that they were gangbusters,
either.




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"George M. Middius" wrote in message
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Sockpuppet Yustabe said:

When I want misery, I'll just listen to a pair of Europas.


How do you know? You have never heard any.


I think he means he'd experience misery knowing somebody had actually
paid Gregipus some money for those grotesquely overpriced symbols of
the Mommy****er's twisted psyche.

Right, Bobo?

That would be part of it.

Another aspect would be the misery of being the only person who ever
actually purchased a pair, albeit through an intermediary.

They might not sound too good either, note.



The only information we have is second hand, i.e. Dave's incomplete report,
which was not all that bad, but not indicating that they were gangbusters,
either.




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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:20:40 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Dogma4e wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:59 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Joseph Oberlander wrote:

trotsky wrote:



Robert Morein wrote:


A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.




"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"?


Well, the adhesive you used on the stuffing *is* flammable.


You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.

Your "input" has been trash from day one, Joe. At least you had one
moment of clarity when you admitted you were a troll.



And you call that a competent test of the flammability of your
speakers? For Christ's sake, why don't you pony up and bring a set
over to Underwriter's Lab?



Is it "straw man" or "straw mouse" in your case? Are you saying the
dumb ****ing *******s that I mentioned look for UL listings to buy speakers?

No. I say product liability underwriters look for it, as do owners of
companies that want some legal cover and some peace of mind against
causing some irrevocable damage.

And did I read that wrong, or did you just identify your target
customers as "dumb ****ing *******s"?
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:20:40 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Dogma4e wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:59 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Joseph Oberlander wrote:

trotsky wrote:



Robert Morein wrote:


A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.




"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"?


Well, the adhesive you used on the stuffing *is* flammable.


You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.

Your "input" has been trash from day one, Joe. At least you had one
moment of clarity when you admitted you were a troll.



And you call that a competent test of the flammability of your
speakers? For Christ's sake, why don't you pony up and bring a set
over to Underwriter's Lab?



Is it "straw man" or "straw mouse" in your case? Are you saying the
dumb ****ing *******s that I mentioned look for UL listings to buy speakers?

No. I say product liability underwriters look for it, as do owners of
companies that want some legal cover and some peace of mind against
causing some irrevocable damage.

And did I read that wrong, or did you just identify your target
customers as "dumb ****ing *******s"?


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trotsky wrote:


You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.


I said adhesive. Obviously, you are using it correctly.
Me? I've never heard of a speaker catching fire. The other
people are razzing you - because even Bose crud doesn't catch fire.

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trotsky wrote:


You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.


I said adhesive. Obviously, you are using it correctly.
Me? I've never heard of a speaker catching fire. The other
people are razzing you - because even Bose crud doesn't catch fire.

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Dogma4e wrote:

And you call that a competent test of the flammability of your
speakers? For Christ's sake, why don't you pony up and bring a set
over to Underwriter's Lab? I think they're in your neck of the woods.
Take a schematic. They will overdrive them for several hours, measure
delta T, and if they don't blow up you will have a UL listing.
Probably cost you about $2,400, and they'll let you pay ove time.
They'll want to inspect your cough, cough... factory, but they've seen
worse.


Good point, actually. We all missed this. If I was selling speakers,
I'd get them tested. The bookshelves, not really required. The sub?
Absolutely. It has an amplifier, afterall, and 120VAC running to it.

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Dogma4e wrote:

And you call that a competent test of the flammability of your
speakers? For Christ's sake, why don't you pony up and bring a set
over to Underwriter's Lab? I think they're in your neck of the woods.
Take a schematic. They will overdrive them for several hours, measure
delta T, and if they don't blow up you will have a UL listing.
Probably cost you about $2,400, and they'll let you pay ove time.
They'll want to inspect your cough, cough... factory, but they've seen
worse.


Good point, actually. We all missed this. If I was selling speakers,
I'd get them tested. The bookshelves, not really required. The sub?
Absolutely. It has an amplifier, afterall, and 120VAC running to it.

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trotsky wrote:

Is it "straw man" or "straw mouse" in your case? Are you saying the
dumb ****ing *******s that I mentioned look for UL listings to buy
speakers?


I wouldn't buy anything electric powered like your subwoofer without
a UL sticker on it.

P.S. guess what my dream job growing up was? Tester for UL labs.

Hey - you get *PAID* to abuse and blow stuff up. What could be better?



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trotsky wrote:

Is it "straw man" or "straw mouse" in your case? Are you saying the
dumb ****ing *******s that I mentioned look for UL listings to buy
speakers?


I wouldn't buy anything electric powered like your subwoofer without
a UL sticker on it.

P.S. guess what my dream job growing up was? Tester for UL labs.

Hey - you get *PAID* to abuse and blow stuff up. What could be better?

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"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
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trotsky wrote:


You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.


I said adhesive. Obviously, you are using it correctly.
Me? I've never heard of a speaker catching fire. The other
people are razzing you - because even Bose crud doesn't catch fire.


Although the razzing of Trotsky is much more than he deserves, he has
brought it upon himself by his own unreasonable and impulsive behavior.




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"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
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trotsky wrote:


You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.


I said adhesive. Obviously, you are using it correctly.
Me? I've never heard of a speaker catching fire. The other
people are razzing you - because even Bose crud doesn't catch fire.


Although the razzing of Trotsky is much more than he deserves, he has
brought it upon himself by his own unreasonable and impulsive behavior.




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"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
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trotsky wrote:


You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.


I said adhesive. Obviously, you are using it correctly.
Me? I've never heard of a speaker catching fire. The other
people are razzing you - because even Bose crud doesn't catch fire.

Sure they do.

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml96/96105.html


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"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
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trotsky wrote:


You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.


I said adhesive. Obviously, you are using it correctly.
Me? I've never heard of a speaker catching fire. The other
people are razzing you - because even Bose crud doesn't catch fire.

Sure they do.

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml96/96105.html




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Sockpuppet Yustabe said:

Although the razzing of Trotsky is much more than he deserves


I believe you made a trotsky anti-reality error there. Should read:

"the razzing of Trotsky is exactly what he deserves"

No charge.


I got my money's worth. Such a deal.
A better deal than Jupiter speakers.
However, there are at least a hundred other pairs
of $1,300 speakers I would never buy.




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Sockpuppet Yustabe said:

Although the razzing of Trotsky is much more than he deserves


I believe you made a trotsky anti-reality error there. Should read:

"the razzing of Trotsky is exactly what he deserves"

No charge.


I got my money's worth. Such a deal.
A better deal than Jupiter speakers.
However, there are at least a hundred other pairs
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:59 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Joseph Oberlander wrote:
trotsky wrote:



Robert Morein wrote:

A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.




"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"?



Well, the adhesive you used on the stuffing *is* flammable.



You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.


This will be the special edition pair, right?

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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 22:39:59 GMT, trotsky wrote:



Joseph Oberlander wrote:
trotsky wrote:



Robert Morein wrote:

A very succinct summary.
It's the personality, not the speakers, which draws the fire.




"Draws fire?" What happened to "catches fire"?



Well, the adhesive you used on the stuffing *is* flammable.



You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.


This will be the special edition pair, right?

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Robert Morein wrote:

"Joseph Oberlander" wrote in message
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trotsky wrote:


You know, that's interesting: I was assembling a pair of speakers
yesterday, attempting to screw the crossover boards in place, when a
screw got tangled in the insulation and I couldn't get it out. I then
used my Dremel's cutting tool attachment to cut the head of the screw
off. It showered sparks for about 90 seconds continuously, and I
briefly wondered if one of you dumb ****ing *******s might've been
right, and something could catch fire. No, I'm afraid not.


I said adhesive. Obviously, you are using it correctly.
Me? I've never heard of a speaker catching fire. The other
people are razzing you - because even Bose crud doesn't catch fire.


Sure they do.

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml96/96105.html


Oh my bad. Better got UL to test your speakers, then

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