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I've a friend named Chuck Hicks, who is a music professor at my alma
mater, and an outstanding guitarist. Chuck posted this on his FaceBook timeline, and I thought you might enjoy the share. IMO, it's one of the best explanations of signal-to-noise ratio I've ever read. Enjoy: "With me, it all began with music. I am a musician, born into a family of musicians. I love music. Music moves me. Music shapes my life. My world is full of music. Sadly the world is also full of noise. To me, music affirms, calms, challenges, encourages, heals, lifts and nurtures. To me, noise irritates, incites, annoys, diminishes and destroys. I guess the challenging part is determining the difference between the two. What puzzles me is that much noise is called music and many cannot seem to see the destructive properties which they are embracing. It seems that it would be wise to be attentive to that which we listen... that which subtly effects our moods, our health, our attitudes and our actions. There is power in music. It should be respected. Today is a fine time to give consideration to that which goes into us... and perhaps in due course we might be so fortunate as to realize how it wonderfully effects that which comes from within us." -- ---Jeff --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com |
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"Jeff Henig" skrev i en meddelelse
... I've a friend named Chuck Hicks, who is a music professor at my alma mater, and an outstanding guitarist. Chuck posted this on his FaceBook timeline, and I thought you might enjoy the share. IMO, it's one of the best explanations of signal-to-noise ratio I've ever read. And you of course asked him and repost with permission? Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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A Chuck Hicks Post
Jeff Henig writes:
I've a friend named Chuck Hicks, who is a music professor at my alma mater, and an outstanding guitarist. Chuck posted this on his FaceBook timeline, and I thought you might enjoy the share. IMO, it's one of the best explanations of signal-to-noise ratio I've ever read. Enjoy: "With me, it all began with music. I am a musician, born into a family of musicians. I love music. Music moves me. Music shapes my life. My world is full of music. Sadly the world is also full of noise. To me, music affirms, calms, challenges, encourages, heals, lifts and nurtures. To me, noise irritates, incites, annoys, diminishes and destroys. I guess the challenging part is determining the difference between the two. What puzzles me is that much noise is called music and many cannot seem to see the destructive properties which they are embracing. It seems that it would be wise to be attentive to that which we listen... that which subtly effects our moods, our health, our attitudes and our actions. There is power in music. It should be respected. Today is a fine time to give consideration to that which goes into us... and perhaps in due course we might be so fortunate as to realize how it wonderfully effects that which comes from within us." Brilliantly stated. Touches on all the points I've tried to express at various times, but he does it perfectly with such economy. Thanks for sharing this sunlight and fresh air, Jeff. Frank Mobile Audio -- |
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Peter Larsen wrote:
"Jeff Henig" skrev i en meddelelse ... I've a friend named Chuck Hicks, who is a music professor at my alma mater, and an outstanding guitarist. Chuck posted this on his FaceBook timeline, and I thought you might enjoy the share. IMO, it's one of the best explanations of signal-to-noise ratio I've ever read. And you of course asked him and repost with permission? Kind regards Peter Larsen Chuck's privacy settings are such that I was able to find that post and share it on Facebook. That is his own perogative, no asking required. He may have settings such that only those who are friends of friends may share, or he may be happy to leave it wide open for anyone who finds it and so wishes to share it, too. Chuck's timeline is open to viewing by anyone, AFAICT. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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A Chuck Hicks Post
Jeff Henig wrote:
"Peter Larsen" wrote: "Jeff Henig" skrev i en meddelelse ... I've a friend named Chuck Hicks, who is a music professor at my alma mater, and an outstanding guitarist. Chuck posted this on his FaceBook timeline, and I thought you might enjoy the share. IMO, it's one of the best explanations of signal-to-noise ratio I've ever read. And you of course asked him and repost with permission? Kind regards Peter Larsen Nope. shame I'll rectify that shortly. See my reply to Peter. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
I don't think music is always about happy emotions at all, because sometimes people don't have happy emotions. Music is about all emotions, good and bad. Amen, Scott. In early 2013 I wrote a song about a friend, neighbor, and vet who killed himself. It is the most brutal song I have ever written. It is also beautiful (if I do say so myself). In November I did a solo show of reasonably fresh material, for the Plumas Arts Organization, and played it for the home folks for the first time. Many tears in the room. Beauty sometimes aids and abets sorrow. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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A Chuck Hicks Post
"hank alrich" skrev i en meddelelse
... Chuck's privacy settings are such that I was able to find that post and share it on Facebook. That is his own perogative, no asking required. Even if it is public droit morale still requires you to ask because it is another context. Chuck's timeline is open to viewing by anyone, AFAICT. Makes no difference. Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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Peter Larsen wrote:
"hank alrich" skrev i en meddelelse ... Chuck's privacy settings are such that I was able to find that post and share it on Facebook. That is his own perogative, no asking required. Even if it is public droit morale still requires you to ask because it is another context. Chuck's timeline is open to viewing by anyone, AFAICT. Makes no difference. Kind regards Peter Larsen Peter, to me what you are saying is that if I see a poster on a public notice board I have to ask the creator's permission to alert you to that poster. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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A Chuck Hicks Post
On 02/01/2015 15:30, hank alrich wrote:
Peter Larsen wrote: "hank alrich" skrev i en meddelelse ... Chuck's privacy settings are such that I was able to find that post and share it on Facebook. That is his own perogative, no asking required. Even if it is public droit morale still requires you to ask because it is another context. Chuck's timeline is open to viewing by anyone, AFAICT. Makes no difference. Kind regards Peter Larsen Peter, to me what you are saying is that if I see a poster on a public notice board I have to ask the creator's permission to alert you to that poster. I'd say there's a difference between posting a URL and quoting large sections verbatim. Kind of the same difference as posting a link to a Soundcloud file and copying it and attaching the audio to your post. Then again, I assume that anyone who wants to will copy and paste anything I post on a public forum without asking. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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A Chuck Hicks Post
"hank alrich" skrev i en meddelelse
... Peter Larsen wrote: "hank alrich" skrev i en meddelelse ... Chuck's privacy settings are such that I was able to find that post and share it on Facebook. That is his own perogative, no asking required. Even if it is public droit morale still requires you to ask because it is another context. Chuck's timeline is open to viewing by anyone, AFAICT. Makes no difference. Kind regards Peter Larsen Peter, to me what you are saying is that if I see a poster on a public notice board I have to ask the creator's permission to alert you to that poster. No Hank, I am saying that if you repost it in another context you have to ask, on FB you could share within the already given permission defined by the original poster, but there is no pre-existing permission for this usenet newsgroup. Linking to it would be a different issue because a link - except perhaps an iframe - maintains the context. Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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A Chuck Hicks Post
Jeff Henig wrote:
I've a friend named Chuck Hicks, who is a music professor at my alma mater, and an outstanding guitarist. Chuck posted this on his FaceBook timeline, and I thought you might enjoy the share. IMO, it's one of the best explanations of signal-to-noise ratio I've ever read. Enjoy: "With me, it all began with music. I am a musician, born into a family of musicians. I love music. Music moves me. Music shapes my life. My world is full of music. Sadly the world is also full of noise. To me, music affirms, calms, challenges, encourages, heals, lifts and nurtures. To me, noise irritates, incites, annoys, diminishes and destroys. I guess the challenging part is determining the difference between the two. But Stravinsky... What puzzles me is that much noise is called music and many cannot seem to see the destructive properties which they are embracing. It seems that it would be wise to be attentive to that which we listen... that which subtly effects our moods, our health, our attitudes and our actions. There is power in music. It should be respected. Today is a fine time to give consideration to that which goes into us... and perhaps in due course we might be so fortunate as to realize how it wonderfully effects that which comes from within us." There's only power in music because we agree to give it power. Others will choose differently. -- Les Cargill |
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John Williamson wrote:
On 02/01/2015 15:30, hank alrich wrote: Peter Larsen wrote: "hank alrich" skrev i en meddelelse ... Chuck's privacy settings are such that I was able to find that post and share it on Facebook. That is his own perogative, no asking required. Even if it is public droit morale still requires you to ask because it is another context. Chuck's timeline is open to viewing by anyone, AFAICT. Makes no difference. Kind regards Peter Larsen Peter, to me what you are saying is that if I see a poster on a public notice board I have to ask the creator's permission to alert you to that poster. I'd say there's a difference between posting a URL and quoting large sections verbatim. Kind of the same difference as posting a link to a Soundcloud file and copying it and attaching the audio to your post. Then again, I assume that anyone who wants to will copy and paste anything I post on a public forum without asking. On Facebook I see "public" posts as just that. There are privacy settings that would compel me to ask permission, but when one posts for public viewing and sharing, I consider permission to quote and link as given up front. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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A Chuck Hicks Post
Jeff Henig wrote:
"Peter Larsen" wrote: "hank alrich" skrev i en meddelelse ... Peter Larsen wrote: "hank alrich" skrev i en meddelelse ... Chuck's privacy settings are such that I was able to find that post and share it on Facebook. That is his own perogative, no asking required. Even if it is public droit morale still requires you to ask because it is another context. Chuck's timeline is open to viewing by anyone, AFAICT. Makes no difference. Kind regards Peter Larsen Peter, to me what you are saying is that if I see a poster on a public notice board I have to ask the creator's permission to alert you to that poster. No Hank, I am saying that if you repost it in another context you have to ask, on FB you could share within the already given permission defined by the original poster, but there is no pre-existing permission for this usenet newsgroup. Linking to it would be a different issue because a link - except perhaps an iframe - maintains the context. Kind regards Peter Larsen FWIW, I asked for permission after your reminder, and he gave it with no hesitation. "No problem, Jeff Henig... feel free. I think it not folly to repost without permission. It's viewable to the public anyway." Which is what I've contended here. "Public" is just that - no boundaries are imposed. Posting a link is useles to those who haven't FB accts, in most cases. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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A Chuck Hicks Post
Jeff Henig wrote:
hank alrich wrote: Scott Dorsey wrote: I don't think music is always about happy emotions at all, because sometimes people don't have happy emotions. Music is about all emotions, good and bad. Amen, Scott. In early 2013 I wrote a song about a friend, neighbor, and vet who killed himself. It is the most brutal song I have ever written. It is also beautiful (if I do say so myself). In November I did a solo show of reasonably fresh material, for the Plumas Arts Organization, and played it for the home folks for the first time. Many tears in the room. Beauty sometimes aids and abets sorrow. Dude. You need to record this song. It sounds like a true gift from the heart. It will happen. Shaidri and I perform it in the right settings. First time was at a SWRFA showcase, where in the back of the room a friend of mine sat with his eyes closed throughout. Later I received a message from that saying that the song had hit him particularly hard and well, and that I probably didn't know how close he had come to taking that exit door, for the same reasons, mostly. Shaidri has an uncanny sense of where and how to add her voice to such a song, and the result raises the level of delivery startlingly. The first time I sang it for her, at our first practice two days after I had stuck my right index finger into a table saw blade, she was crying by the last verse. She didn't know him personally, but she knew that she knows many who did. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
Jeff Henig wrote: OTOH, there is music with anger that is cathartic or uplifting, and then there is music with anger that doesn't solve anything, and is noise. I don't know how to break that down further, other than to paraphrase: I know it when I hear it. The following is the absolute best music review of all time: "The wild corybantic orgy, this din of brasses, tin pans and kettles, this Chinese or Caribbean clatter with wood sticks and ear-cutting scalping knives... heartless sterility, obliteration of all melody, all tonal charm, all music... This revelling in the destruction of all tonal essence, raging satanic fury in the orchestra, this diabolic, lewd caterwauling, scandal-mongering, gun-toting music, with an orchestral accompaniment slapping you in the face... Hence, the secret fascination that makes this music the darling of the feeble-minded royalty, the plaything of the camarilla, of the court flunkeys covered with reptilian slime, and of the blase hysterical female court parasites who need this galvanic stimulation by massive instrumental treatment to throw their pleasure-weary frog-legs into violent convulsions.... this diabolical din of this pig-headed man, stuffed with brass and sawdust, inflated, in an insanely destructive self-aggrandizement, by Mephistopheles' mephitic and most venomous hellish miasma, into Beelzebub's Court Composer and General Director of Hell's Music-- Richard Wagner." -- J.L. Klein as quoted in the Wagner-Lexicon Nice! Here's one of its competitors. Congratulations Justin Moore and Outlaws Like Me, you're officially off the hot seat. Because right here, right now, I am unilaterally declaring that Florida Georgia Line's new album Anything Goes is the worst album ever released in the history of country music. Ever. Including Florida Georgia Line's first album Here's To The Good Times, including anything else you can muster from the mainstream, including a 4-track recording made by a head trauma victim in a walk-in closet with a Casiotone keyboard and an out-of-tune banjo. Anything Goes can slay all comers when it comes to its heretofore unattainable degree of peerless suckitude. In a word, this album is bull****. Never before has such a refined collection of strident clichés been concentrated in one insidious mass. Never before have the lyrics to an album evidenced such narrowcasted pseudo-mindless incoherent drivel. Never before have such disparate and diseased influences been married so haphazardly in a profound vacuum of taste, and never have all of these atrocities been platooned together to be proffered to the public without someone, anyone with any bit of conscience and in a position of power putting a stop to this poisoning of the listening public. Not to get all old man on your ass, but most of the time I don't even understand what the hell these dudes are saying. Brian Kelley and Tyler Hubbard have their own language, partial to the most grammatically-challenged and stupefying vocabulary lurking in the dankest sewers of the English dialect, but not residing firmly in any specific one of them so no truly proper translation can be obtained. It's like Pig Latin for douchewads€”understood by them and them only. And only with the perfect deficiency of brain cells will their concoction of Ebonics, metrosexual douche speak, and stagnant gene pool rural jargon become anything resembling coherent to the human ear. Forget the already ultra-concentrated and extremely-narrow breadth of modern mainstream country music's laundry list songwriting legacy, Florida Georgia Line has devised a way to inexplicably make it even more attenuated and terrible. "Girl, alcoholic beverage, truck, river or lake"€” that's pretty much the alpha and omega of the Anything Goes building blocks. Most of these songs have more songwriters than they do basic lyrical themes, with an average of four cooks per diarrhetic serving, and one song that boasts five songwriters and still struggles to pen anything that comes close to a complete sentence or a comprehensible thought. Shiny objects and fire also seem to excite and distract Florida Georgia Line and fill them with a profound sense of wonder, and so soliloquies to these things also show up occasionally, as does the word "good." They really like that word. "Got on my smell good. Got a bottle of feel good. Shined up my wheels good. You're looking real good." That verse pretty much sums up this entire album. And no, these are not lyrics to the song that is actually titled "Good Good." Needless to say, any moments involving depth, sorrow, self-reflection, doubt, or evolved thinking in any capacity have been unceremoniously scrubbed from this project entirely, save for one song, "Dirt," which only works to anger the blood even more because it proves that these morons are capable of so much more. A song like "Sippin' On Fire" tries to cobble together some semblance of a love story, but bogs down like all these songs do in focusing on the material objects and consumables inadvertently on hand in situations instead of the honest sentiments being felt between two people. Women and "love" are compared to alcoholic beverages and other material objects, and vice versa more times than I care to count on this album, as if they are interchangeable in stature in the human experience. Another song that would have been decent if only Florida Georgia Line didn't figure out how to screw it up is "Bumpin' The Night." Despite the title alluding to the listener being in store for yet another demonstration of shallowness, the song displays a compositional depth that is both surprising and enriching, even though what passes for steel guitar is so transmogrified by the EDM production, it's hardly noticeable. There's nothing wrong with fun, feel good songs themselves. But in such a void of anything striking even close to variety, an otherwise decent song like "Bumpin' The Night" suffers demonstrably amongst its peers. And talk about going to the cliché well too many times, there's a song on this album called "Angel" that I kid you not is built around the often sarcastically-used pick up line "Did it hurt when you fell from the sky?" Any woman who hears this line coming from any man has my personal blessing to immediately spray them in the face with mace and knee them in the nuts. The idea that these knuckleheads think that this line is "sweet" just speaks to the depravity of self-awareness they suffer from in an irrevocable degree. There really is a toxic concentration of bad songs on Anything Goes, and it is all punctuated on the final track "Every Night" where the hyper-everything that riddles this album somehow gets heightened even more as Florida Georgia Line explain they don't need the weekend because every night for them is a wild, raging good time. This personifies the diabolical sameness of this album, where it's just a contiguous string of carefree party references and virtually nothing else, almost throwing caution to the wind and daring fate to make a mockery of this project over the long perspective of time, if they're not openly cashing out on the franchise in the face of the obvious dying of a trend. I would call it country rap, but even that would give this album more definition than it truly carries. I would call it pop, but even that world would not stand for such vacuousness. And once again the listener is left steadfastly perplexed at what Brian Kelley (the short-haired one) actually does in this band beyond singing one verse of "Dirt" and a few random backup lines so heavily Auto-tuned you can't tell for sure it's him. Everybody knows where Florida Georgia Line is going to lead. Scott Borchetta must know it. Their producer Joey Moi, formerly of Nickelback must know it. Their manager Kevin Zaruk, also formerly of Nickelback, apparently knows it, and admitted as much in a recent Billboard interview. "It's bizarre because I know so many people who say they can't stand them but listen to Nickelback and go to their shows. This is a band that sold hundreds of thousands of dollars in merchandise, and to this day, I don't know if I've ever seen a person with a Nickelback T-shirt on walking the streets anywhere in the world. I don't know what it is, but for whatever reason it became cool to hate Nickelback, and once that trend took off, it exploded. What I've definitely talked to [FGL's] Brian [Kelley] and Tyler [Hubbard] about is that whenever anybody becomes successful in any business, there's people that get jealous." This is the problem. Florida Georgia Line and their fans will read a review like this, and truly believe that jealousy and nothing else is at the heart of the criticism, and will point to their "success" as proof of this. But Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings, George Strait, and so many more were wildly successful in their time too, and also faced criticism, but never to the degree of criticism Florida Georgia Line is faced with. The music of these legends withstood the test of time, while artists like Nickelback, Billy Ray Cyrus, New Kids On The Block, and MC Hammer were also wildly successful in their time, but now their music is nowhere to be seen besides as a novelty, or listened to as irony or nostalgia. It is Florida Georgia Line's destiny to go down as a laughing stock, to be the next Nickelback, where their fans hide their T-shirts and shun them, tearing them down just as vehemently and quickly as they artificially propped them up. Their sophomore album and a song like "Dirt" was their one opportunity to change that destiny and be known for something more. But instead they super concentrated what makes them bad as either a last cash-grabbing hurrah, or as a misguided miscalculation that their polarizing nature is due to the insecurities of others instead of a true concern about substance and sustainability. Point to current attendance numbers and call the haters jealous all you want. All one has to do is point to Nickelback as an example of why this doesn't work in the long term. Florida Georgia Line and Anything Goes are an embarrassment to country music. http://tinyurl.com/l274ejn -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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Les Cargill wrote:
There's only power in music because we agree to give it power. Others will choose differently. Sometimes music moves me powerfully regardless of what I might choose, short of inserting perfect earplugs. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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"hank alrich" skrev i en meddelelse
... Peter, to me what you are saying is that if I see a poster on a public notice board I have to ask the creator's permission to alert you to that poster. No Hank, I am saying that if you repost it in another context you have to ask, on FB you could share within the already given permission defined by the original poster, but there is no pre-existing permission for this usenet newsgroup. Linking to it would be a different issue because a link - except perhaps an iframe - maintains the context. Kind regards Peter Larsen FWIW, I asked for permission after your reminder, and he gave it with no hesitation. "No problem, Jeff Henig... feel free. I think it not folly to repost without permission. It's viewable to the public anyway." Which is what I've contended here. "Public" is just that - no boundaries are imposed. Posting a link is useles to those who haven't FB accts, in most cases. The common sense - and droit morale - angle: Consider the example of taking the audio from one of your youtube videos and posting it for download, not linking to it, posting it, on a debate forum as a topic of discussion _without_ a release from you and thereby also notification to you so that you could read and if need be take part. Yes, common sense also suggests in this context of Chuck Hicks post that you would get a release for posting in the newsgroup on asking and even that he probably would not be angry if you didn't ask. But that is not a valid reason for not doing it properly. Hank, a release to another context can not be _assumed_ because of public access, it has to be explicit. I think it highly relevant to adhere to that here, if not we are to set good examples, then who are? Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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On 1/3/2015 12:47 PM, Peter Larsen wrote:
The common sense - and droit morale - angle: Consider the example of taking the audio from one of your youtube videos and posting it for download, not linking to it, posting it, on a debate forum as a topic of discussion _without_ a release from you and thereby also notification to you so that you could read and if need be take part. That might be considered "fair use," at least under US copyright law. If, for example, you were discussing the quality of YouTube videos, you might post one as an example (as opposed to as entertainment). -- For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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