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Question: Mains-borne clicks
"Bob H." wrote: The fridge and the audio system share the same 16A spur. There is nothing else powered from this branch. The amp has a 2A fuse. What kind of power does a fridge consume. Not much, I guess. The problem is not total current, but a very large spike or spikes caused when a motor turns on, either from the start cap, or arcing in contacts. The spike is very large (sometimes thousands of volts), and has a very short time duration, resulting in a very small average current, but able to make it's way through most filter networks. You mean when the motor turns off actually. Graham |
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Question: Mains-borne clicks
You mean when the motor turns off actually. Graham I don't know what would be causing the pop. It could be a byproduct of current inrush as the motor starts to turn in concert with the start cap discharging, it could be contact arcing, aggrevated by the current inrush as the motor starts to turn. The post said the pop was when the fridge cut on. I do know that AC lines are great carriers of these things, and that most conditioners don't do squat for these types of spikes. Also, many other factors can create an environement which aid the developement of spikes. Things like poor on non-existant grounding, dirty contacts, etc. In my house, the fridge and microwave have their own breaker. And sometimes when the fridge and microwave cut on at the same time, they will throw the breaker, though both devices are rated well below the 15 amp breaker. This only happens when the two cut on at the exactly the same time, and so it's a very rare occurance, like once a year or so. bob h. .. |
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Question: Mains-borne clicks
"Bob H." wrote: You mean when the motor turns off actually. Graham I don't know what would be causing the pop. It could be a byproduct of current inrush as the motor starts to turn in concert with the start cap discharging, it could be contact arcing, aggrevated by the current inrush as the motor starts to turn. Contacts don't arc on switch on. They do arc when switching off. The post said the pop was when the fridge cut on. No. " it was plagued by loud mains-borne clicks, which came from the fridge everytime the compressor stopped. " This is a classic example of turning off an inductive load using an old-fashioned mechanical contact system. Graham |
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Question: Mains-borne clicks
No. " it was plagued by loud mains-borne clicks, which came from the fridge everytime the compressor stopped. " This is a classic example of turning off an inductive load using an old-fashioned mechanical contact system. Graham My mistake. Same spike, different event. |
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