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Ivan Bertolla
 
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Hi great newsgroup here
Im working on some production music at the moment and wanted to ask some
fellow guitarists or engineers on your method of recording guitars.
i dont believe you need a skyscraper of racks to get a great metal tone..
The sort of sound Im after is something similar to Symphony X guitar sound
and that rammsteins sound

Im having a resonable amount of success and not far off. I think I still
have to work on Eqs...Im also using the old trick of shoving a small amp
into a cupboard etc and micing it up ,also using valve amps running through
SM57 mic into a G5 mack via an audio interface... and also combining the POD
pro XT for a little more warmth . So ive got about 10 tracks of guitar now
layered ...
Just wondering how everyone else records here ..

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Ivan


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Ivan Bertolla wrote:
Im having a resonable amount of success and not far off. I think I still
have to work on Eqs...Im also using the old trick of shoving a small amp
into a cupboard etc and micing it up ,also using valve amps running through
SM57 mic into a G5 mack via an audio interface... and also combining the POD
pro XT for a little more warmth . So ive got about 10 tracks of guitar now
layered ...
Just wondering how everyone else records here ..


Some of the best guitar sounds I ever heard came out of a Pignose, and
some others came out of a Champ.

SM-57 is just fine, but I like having the amp in a big room so it can
breathe a little. I also like the EV635A on guitar, though it's not so
fashionable any more. It doesn't have the presence peak of the SM-57,
so there's a little less EQing needed to make the track sit right with
vocals or narration.
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Ivan Bertolla wrote:
Im working on some production music at the moment and wanted to ask some
fellow guitarists or engineers on your method of recording guitars.
i dont believe you need a skyscraper of racks to get a great metal tone..


No, but from my experience, you need a good guitar, a good amplifier and
good speakers. Some speakers are just very "soft" sounding. And a good
player obviously. A good muting technique is the key.

There is a microphone comparison thread on HRI at
http://www.hugeracksinc.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=14132.

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Ivan Bertolla wrote:
Hi great newsgroup here
Im working on some production music at the moment and wanted to ask some
fellow guitarists or engineers on your method of recording guitars.
i dont believe you need a skyscraper of racks to get a great metal tone..
The sort of sound Im after is something similar to Symphony X guitar sound
and that rammsteins sound

Im having a resonable amount of success and not far off. I think I still
have to work on Eqs...Im also using the old trick of shoving a small amp
into a cupboard etc and micing it up ,also using valve amps running through
SM57 mic into a G5 mack via an audio interface... and also combining the POD
pro XT for a little more warmth . So ive got about 10 tracks of guitar now
layered ...
Just wondering how everyone else records here ..

--
Regards

Ivan



Richard from rammstein has always been clear about doubling his parts
with the Sansamp. if you're having to add a POD for warmth i'd be
questioning if you're using the right amp in the first place... but
that's just me being a tone queen.

another thing to think about - lots of folks make the mistake of
"scooping" out the mids and think that is the key to sounding "heavy."
DON'T do this - listen to Rammstein - the guitar is mixed nearly
completely in the mids.

having a strong, solid bass guitar sound is very important too, and not
to be taken lightly.

best of luck,
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I think it starts with getting a good tone on a tube amp (I like the Soldano
heads for Rock or the Mesa Dual Rectifier for drop tuned stuff) a big key is
the type of speaker in the cab, I love the tight sound of a Vintage 30 in
a closed back cab (my favorite is a 2x12 Mesa Rectifier cab). I think the
SM57 is the best starting point for a mic but I tend to like the Sennhieser
MD409 (older ones with gold mess on one side) they have a great rock sound
to them. Sometimes I will also throw up a Royer 121 ribbon about a foot
back and mix in uder the SM57 or 409.



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From: "Ivan Bertolla"
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:59 AM
Subject: Recording pro Metal Guitars


Hi great newsgroup here
Im working on some production music at the moment and wanted to ask some
fellow guitarists or engineers on your method of recording guitars.
i dont believe you need a skyscraper of racks to get a great metal tone..
The sort of sound Im after is something similar to Symphony X guitar sound
and that rammsteins sound

Im having a resonable amount of success and not far off. I think I still
have to work on Eqs...Im also using the old trick of shoving a small amp
into a cupboard etc and micing it up ,also using valve amps running

through
SM57 mic into a G5 mack via an audio interface... and also combining the

POD
pro XT for a little more warmth . So ive got about 10 tracks of guitar now
layered ...
Just wondering how everyone else records here ..

--
Regards

Ivan




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