I use Echo gina2496.
when my Os(window xp or 2000) goes into hibernate mode. and awaken. the
horrible bluescreen
appears and my computer downed
I should change my audio interface.
which audio interface supports Windows hibernate mode, well?

On 13 Jun 2005 22:42:00 -0700, wrote:



I use Echo gina2496.
when my Os(window xp or 2000) goes into hibernate mode. and awaken. the
horrible bluescreen
appears and my computer downed
I should change my audio interface.
which audio interface supports Windows hibernate mode, well?

Why don't you turn hibernate off? I've seen it cause problems with a
lot of applications.

Julian

hibernate mode save electcricity ,therefore save money
thanks

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hibernate mode save electcricity,


Negligible.


therefore save money



No hibernate saves your work and your business.

No business = no money.

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hibernate mode save electcricity,


Negligible.


Not if you're operating on battery only, as in 'laptop'...

Mikey
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hibernate mode save electcricity,


Negligible.


Not if you're operating on battery only, as in 'laptop'...

Mikey
Nova Music Productions


There really is a large consumption savings, on any type. But if you're
at a point where 'hibernate' is an issue, why not simply save and shut
down as opposed to caching the memory and risking data loss?

DM

On 13 Jun 2005 23:36:35 -0700, wrote:

hibernate mode save electcricity ,therefore save money
thanks

Use no screensaver, turn off monitor and hard disks in power settings,
saves the same amount of money and doesn't make blue screens of death.

Julian

Julian wrote:
On 13 Jun 2005 23:36:35 -0700, wrote:

hibernate mode save electcricity ,therefore save money
thanks

Use no screensaver, turn off monitor and hard disks in power settings,
saves the same amount of money and doesn't make blue screens of death.

That will save some energy, but perhaps not as much as putting the
device into Stand By mode.

Going in and out of hibernate mode is quite a severe operation, since
it involves writing the contents of memory to disk and then totally
shutting off power, then restoring memory from disk after power is
restored. Importantly, I believe device drivers have to restore a
device to a running state after its power in effect been cut, but
without a full reboot. I'm pretty sure it's possible to write a
device driver that behaves just fine normally but has a fatal bug
that is exposed only when going into (or coming out of) hibernate
mode.

Anyway, the point is that Stand By mode is sort of similar to
Hibernate mode, but memory isn't dumped to hard disk, and power
isn't removed from the whole system. Still, it should save
more power than just having the hard disk spin down and the
monitor blank.

Doing a quick test, I have a 1.3 GHz Athlon machine running Windows XP
with 3 disk drives in it. I hooked it up to my "Kill-a-Watt" meter
(which measures how much power it is drawing from the 120V outlet) and
tested the power usage of the computer itself in a few scenarios:

running normally, but idle: 145W to 160W, but usually 150W
all hard disks spun down, display blanked: 124W
Stand By mode: 60W
Hibernate mode: 2-3W
totally "off": 2-3W
after I flip power supply's rocker switch to "0": 0W

So, it would seem that Stand By mode isn't nearly as good as off
or hibernate, but it's a lot better than enabling the hard disks
to spin down and so on. On the other hand, it's entirely possible
that the system may crash with Stand By mode as well...

- Logan

running normally, but idle: 145W to 160W, but usually 150W
all hard disks spun down, display blanked: 124W
Stand By mode: 60W
Hibernate mode: 2-3W
totally "off": 2-3W
after I flip power supply's rocker switch to "0": 0W


That's a cool set of measurements, and tells us a lot. The only factor that
isn't accounted for here is the monitor power.

-John O

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wrote:
I use Echo gina2496.
when my Os(window xp or 2000) goes into hibernate mode.
and awaken.
the horrible bluescreen
appears and my computer downed

I should change my audio interface.

Are you sure that is the problem? What happens if you remove
the interface? Got the latest drivers, I hope?

which audio interface supports Windows hibernate mode,
well?

I would think that Echo's drivers would be good enough to
support hibernate.

yes i already once removed the interface.
no audio interface, no bluescreen
my driver is latest 6.08
I hate beta driver like 6.11

but echo's driver is quite good . but does not support hibernate ....
but,I am using window2000 sp2

wrote:
I use Echo gina2496.
when my Os(window xp or 2000) goes into hibernate mode. and awaken. the
horrible bluescreen
appears and my computer downed
I should change my audio interface.
which audio interface supports Windows hibernate mode, well?

You could try using an interface that connects through Firewire or
through USB. Because these buses support power saving as an integral
part of their operation and because the very lowest level stuff is
taken care of by code that is tested more thoroughly (the generic
Windows code for handling USB or Firewire, rather than a third-party
driver), it seems like the chances of a bug that could cause a
Hibernate crash would be much lower.

Of course, I am not a heavy Windows user, so I could be wrong about that...

- Logan

On 13 Jun 2005 22:42:00 -0700, wrote:
I use Echo gina2496.
when my Os(window xp or 2000) goes into hibernate mode. and awaken. the
horrible bluescreen
appears and my computer downed
I should change my audio interface.
which audio interface supports Windows hibernate mode, well?

Hibernate and Standby are both dependent on your computer's add-in
cards, hardware and BIOS all supporting the same power management
standards as your operating system. There have been several
generations of power management, from "APM" through "ACPI". I have a
system designed for Win98/NT that will standby and hibernate with
those systems, but not with XP - using the same add-in cards and
devices. It can't do the newer form of power management.

Sometimes a BIOS or driver update will improve compatibility, and
sometimes there are BIOS settings for enabling power management and
choosing which variety, but if any part of your hardware doesn't
support the power management standard your OS wants to use, you are
out of luck.

Loren

On 13 Jun 2005 22:42:00 -0700, wrote:



I use Echo gina2496.
when my Os(window xp or 2000) goes into hibernate mode. and awaken. the
horrible bluescreen
appears and my computer downed
I should change my audio interface.
which audio interface supports Windows hibernate mode, well?

I have no idea, and I can only wonder if anyone has ever bothered
to research that question. I saw hibernation work on my Windows ME
machine when it was new, it seemed to work okay the first few times,
and I thought well, it's about time they did this. Then I recall
something that it flaked out on. Eventually it didn't work at all, and
I never bothered to figure it out or fix it. It just didn't seem worth
it.
The other responses (surely about newer versions of Windows) appear
to validate my feelings about this feature, that (while it's a good
idea and "ought to work") it's still not ready for prime time.

I recall recording something on a P200 with a cheap soundcard many
years ago, I had the Windows (NT4) display functions set to turn on
screensaver after 10 minutes, and for power savings to turn off
montior after a half-hour or so. I recorded several 45-minute sets,
but later found that the recording stopped, corresponding to the time
where the monitor got turned off. This was dissapointing, but at least
it wasn't a critical recording. I changed the settings to never turn
off anything.

Such interactions are uncommon (for most users), and don't cause
any loss of life or property (presuming no one uses a Windows machine
in such a critical environment), so it seems such things are unlikely
to be fixed unless it's a logged error and it's 'convenient' to fix it
for the next release. And there will probably always be higher
priority bugs to fix.
It's like the joke about telling the doctor "It hurts when I do
this" - often it really is better to just not do that.

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On 13 Jun 2005 22:42:00 -0700, wrote:



I use Echo gina2496.
when my Os(window xp or 2000) goes into hibernate mode. and awaken. the
horrible bluescreen
appears and my computer downed
I should change my audio interface.
which audio interface supports Windows hibernate mode, well?

I regularly use the Sound Devices USBpre with hibernate enabled and I've had
no problems. It's just a two channel mic pre line interface which received
it's power via USB see:
http://www.sounddevices.com/products/usbpremaster.htm but it does show that
it's nothing inherently wrong with the hibernate mode. I would ask your
hardware manufacture for more information as to what it takes to
reinitialize the device when it's had it's power cut and restored or what
might be causing the BSOD's. I've found that standby and hibernation modes
in XP are pretty reliable. I did have occasional lockups on a Vaio laptop
coming out of hibernate but these were tracked down to video driver issues
that were not the fault of XP.

Charles Tomaras
Seattle, WA