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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Hi All,
I'm going to resurrect my old Shure M91ED phono cartridge. Surprisingly I can't seem to find much technical info about it. I would be grateful if someone could help me with: - Recommended Load Capacitance - Tracking Force (Range and Typical); IIRC 1.5g was OK Any other snippets would be nice to know too eg. output level (mV @ 1kHz, 5cm/sec) and inductance. Anyone know of a site which has database of cartridge info? Thanks in advance for any help Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
'Old' is a good description. I bought one in the late 70's (anyone else
remember disco?). But old can still be good. This is a great sounding cartridge. I also saved the ORIGINAL instruction sheet which has been scanned and FTP'd to my web site (under big construction). If the following lines don't show up as links in this reply, just paste them into the address line of your browser. Right click on each image and save them to your hard drive. http://home.san.rr.com/cyberedge/Shure_M91ED_01.jpg http://home.san.rr.com/cyberedge/Shure_M91ED_02.jpg Happy listening, -Ron (email: replace 'abuse' with 'cyberguy3k') "Arthur Dunger" wrote: Hi All, I'm going to resurrect my old Shure M91ED phono cartridge. Surprisingly I can't seem to find much technical info about it. I would be grateful if someone could help me with: - Recommended Load Capacitance - Tracking Force (Range and Typical); IIRC 1.5g was OK Any other snippets would be nice to know too eg. output level (mV @ 1kHz, 5cm/sec) and inductance. Anyone know of a site which has database of cartridge info? Thanks in advance for any help Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
'Old' is a good description. I bought one in the late 70's (anyone else
remember disco?). But old can still be good. This is a great sounding cartridge. I also saved the ORIGINAL instruction sheet which has been scanned and FTP'd to my web site (under big construction). If the following lines don't show up as links in this reply, just paste them into the address line of your browser. Right click on each image and save them to your hard drive. http://home.san.rr.com/cyberedge/Shure_M91ED_01.jpg http://home.san.rr.com/cyberedge/Shure_M91ED_02.jpg Happy listening, -Ron (email: replace 'abuse' with 'cyberguy3k') "Arthur Dunger" wrote: Hi All, I'm going to resurrect my old Shure M91ED phono cartridge. Surprisingly I can't seem to find much technical info about it. I would be grateful if someone could help me with: - Recommended Load Capacitance - Tracking Force (Range and Typical); IIRC 1.5g was OK Any other snippets would be nice to know too eg. output level (mV @ 1kHz, 5cm/sec) and inductance. Anyone know of a site which has database of cartridge info? Thanks in advance for any help Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
'Old' is a good description. I bought one in the late 70's (anyone else
remember disco?). But old can still be good. This is a great sounding cartridge. I also saved the ORIGINAL instruction sheet which has been scanned and FTP'd to my web site (under big construction). If the following lines don't show up as links in this reply, just paste them into the address line of your browser. Right click on each image and save them to your hard drive. http://home.san.rr.com/cyberedge/Shure_M91ED_01.jpg http://home.san.rr.com/cyberedge/Shure_M91ED_02.jpg Happy listening, -Ron (email: replace 'abuse' with 'cyberguy3k') "Arthur Dunger" wrote: Hi All, I'm going to resurrect my old Shure M91ED phono cartridge. Surprisingly I can't seem to find much technical info about it. I would be grateful if someone could help me with: - Recommended Load Capacitance - Tracking Force (Range and Typical); IIRC 1.5g was OK Any other snippets would be nice to know too eg. output level (mV @ 1kHz, 5cm/sec) and inductance. Anyone know of a site which has database of cartridge info? Thanks in advance for any help Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Ron, that's fantastic, thank you very much indeed!
It's certainly old, it was given to me as a present when I as a teenager (and that *was* the disco era). I'm actually going to transfer some even older LP's to my computer - my parent's warm sounding 60's Chet Atkins LP's. I also found an old Shure M44-7 kicking around. The specs for these are still available. These things are apparently the standard DJ "scratch" cartridge. From what I remember the M91ED was a far better cartridge. Hope you have a happy new year. Best Regards Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Ron, that's fantastic, thank you very much indeed!
It's certainly old, it was given to me as a present when I as a teenager (and that *was* the disco era). I'm actually going to transfer some even older LP's to my computer - my parent's warm sounding 60's Chet Atkins LP's. I also found an old Shure M44-7 kicking around. The specs for these are still available. These things are apparently the standard DJ "scratch" cartridge. From what I remember the M91ED was a far better cartridge. Hope you have a happy new year. Best Regards Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Ron, that's fantastic, thank you very much indeed!
It's certainly old, it was given to me as a present when I as a teenager (and that *was* the disco era). I'm actually going to transfer some even older LP's to my computer - my parent's warm sounding 60's Chet Atkins LP's. I also found an old Shure M44-7 kicking around. The specs for these are still available. These things are apparently the standard DJ "scratch" cartridge. From what I remember the M91ED was a far better cartridge. Hope you have a happy new year. Best Regards Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Hi,
The cantilever is rubber mounted, I bet, and old is not good. Hard, brittle, edgy, might be better descriptions. Mine still sounds OK. The stylus was replaced in the 80's. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Hi,
The cantilever is rubber mounted, I bet, and old is not good. Hard, brittle, edgy, might be better descriptions. Mine still sounds OK. The stylus was replaced in the 80's. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Hi,
The cantilever is rubber mounted, I bet, and old is not good. Hard, brittle, edgy, might be better descriptions. Mine still sounds OK. The stylus was replaced in the 80's. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
If you do, make certain it's original Shure. Even in the old days there were
lots of fakes around. Nowadays they are the rule rather than the exception. Mark Z. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. -- Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam have rendered my regular e-mail address useless. "Arthur Dunger" wrote in message ... Hi, The cantilever is rubber mounted, I bet, and old is not good. Hard, brittle, edgy, might be better descriptions. Mine still sounds OK. The stylus was replaced in the 80's. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
If you do, make certain it's original Shure. Even in the old days there were
lots of fakes around. Nowadays they are the rule rather than the exception. Mark Z. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. -- Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam have rendered my regular e-mail address useless. "Arthur Dunger" wrote in message ... Hi, The cantilever is rubber mounted, I bet, and old is not good. Hard, brittle, edgy, might be better descriptions. Mine still sounds OK. The stylus was replaced in the 80's. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
If you do, make certain it's original Shure. Even in the old days there were
lots of fakes around. Nowadays they are the rule rather than the exception. Mark Z. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. -- Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam have rendered my regular e-mail address useless. "Arthur Dunger" wrote in message ... Hi, The cantilever is rubber mounted, I bet, and old is not good. Hard, brittle, edgy, might be better descriptions. Mine still sounds OK. The stylus was replaced in the 80's. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Mark D. Zacharias:
You are absolutely correct. The price that one pays will be the key. The original stylus for this very fine cartridge was a .2 x .7 mil elliptical...... so it won't be cheap. If they can be found for anything less than about $20 or $25 or so one can just about be "sure" that it is not an original "Shure" unless one can get a great deal on EBay or something. -- Best Regards, Daniel Sofie Electronics Supply & Repair ---------------------------- "Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message ... If you do, make certain it's original Shure. Even in the old days there were lots of fakes around. Nowadays they are the rule rather than the exception. Mark Z. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. -- Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam have rendered my regular e-mail address useless. "Arthur Dunger" wrote in message ... Hi, The cantilever is rubber mounted, I bet, and old is not good. Hard, brittle, edgy, might be better descriptions. Mine still sounds OK. The stylus was replaced in the 80's. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Mark D. Zacharias:
You are absolutely correct. The price that one pays will be the key. The original stylus for this very fine cartridge was a .2 x .7 mil elliptical...... so it won't be cheap. If they can be found for anything less than about $20 or $25 or so one can just about be "sure" that it is not an original "Shure" unless one can get a great deal on EBay or something. -- Best Regards, Daniel Sofie Electronics Supply & Repair ---------------------------- "Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message ... If you do, make certain it's original Shure. Even in the old days there were lots of fakes around. Nowadays they are the rule rather than the exception. Mark Z. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. -- Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam have rendered my regular e-mail address useless. "Arthur Dunger" wrote in message ... Hi, The cantilever is rubber mounted, I bet, and old is not good. Hard, brittle, edgy, might be better descriptions. Mine still sounds OK. The stylus was replaced in the 80's. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Mark D. Zacharias:
You are absolutely correct. The price that one pays will be the key. The original stylus for this very fine cartridge was a .2 x .7 mil elliptical...... so it won't be cheap. If they can be found for anything less than about $20 or $25 or so one can just about be "sure" that it is not an original "Shure" unless one can get a great deal on EBay or something. -- Best Regards, Daniel Sofie Electronics Supply & Repair ---------------------------- "Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message ... If you do, make certain it's original Shure. Even in the old days there were lots of fakes around. Nowadays they are the rule rather than the exception. Mark Z. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. -- Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam have rendered my regular e-mail address useless. "Arthur Dunger" wrote in message ... Hi, The cantilever is rubber mounted, I bet, and old is not good. Hard, brittle, edgy, might be better descriptions. Mine still sounds OK. The stylus was replaced in the 80's. I was thinking of buying a replacement before these things go extinct. Rob |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Thank you both for the warning.
I was thinking of buying one of those generic replacements (haven't checked the price), just so I have a spare. Perhaps that's not such a good idea. I would have thought that manufacturing technology would allow copies of reasonable quality. I've found one place (supposedly reputable) which sells replacements which look like the original and cost in the ballpark you mentioned. I was under the impression Shure no longer manufactured replacement stylii, so anything original would therefore be NOS (New old stock) and hence subject to aging of the rubber cantilever? Rob Sofie wrote: Mark D. Zacharias: You are absolutely correct. The price that one pays will be the key. The original stylus for this very fine cartridge was a .2 x .7 mil elliptical...... so it won't be cheap. If they can be found for anything less than about $20 or $25 or so one can just about be "sure" that it is not an original "Shure" unless one can get a great deal on EBay or something. |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Thank you both for the warning.
I was thinking of buying one of those generic replacements (haven't checked the price), just so I have a spare. Perhaps that's not such a good idea. I would have thought that manufacturing technology would allow copies of reasonable quality. I've found one place (supposedly reputable) which sells replacements which look like the original and cost in the ballpark you mentioned. I was under the impression Shure no longer manufactured replacement stylii, so anything original would therefore be NOS (New old stock) and hence subject to aging of the rubber cantilever? Rob Sofie wrote: Mark D. Zacharias: You are absolutely correct. The price that one pays will be the key. The original stylus for this very fine cartridge was a .2 x .7 mil elliptical...... so it won't be cheap. If they can be found for anything less than about $20 or $25 or so one can just about be "sure" that it is not an original "Shure" unless one can get a great deal on EBay or something. |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Thank you both for the warning.
I was thinking of buying one of those generic replacements (haven't checked the price), just so I have a spare. Perhaps that's not such a good idea. I would have thought that manufacturing technology would allow copies of reasonable quality. I've found one place (supposedly reputable) which sells replacements which look like the original and cost in the ballpark you mentioned. I was under the impression Shure no longer manufactured replacement stylii, so anything original would therefore be NOS (New old stock) and hence subject to aging of the rubber cantilever? Rob Sofie wrote: Mark D. Zacharias: You are absolutely correct. The price that one pays will be the key. The original stylus for this very fine cartridge was a .2 x .7 mil elliptical...... so it won't be cheap. If they can be found for anything less than about $20 or $25 or so one can just about be "sure" that it is not an original "Shure" unless one can get a great deal on EBay or something. |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Shure has been out of, then back into, the replacement stylus business in
recent years. Don't know about the 91 ED, though. You know, with all due respect to your Shure, you could buy a Grado Prestige Black for 40.00 or less on the internet. Much better cartridge, and not sensitive to cabling capacitance. Mark Z. -- Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam have rendered my regular e-mail address useless. "Arthur Dunger" wrote in message ... Thank you both for the warning. I was thinking of buying one of those generic replacements (haven't checked the price), just so I have a spare. Perhaps that's not such a good idea. I would have thought that manufacturing technology would allow copies of reasonable quality. I've found one place (supposedly reputable) which sells replacements which look like the original and cost in the ballpark you mentioned. I was under the impression Shure no longer manufactured replacement stylii, so anything original would therefore be NOS (New old stock) and hence subject to aging of the rubber cantilever? Rob Sofie wrote: Mark D. Zacharias: You are absolutely correct. The price that one pays will be the key. The original stylus for this very fine cartridge was a .2 x .7 mil elliptical...... so it won't be cheap. If they can be found for anything less than about $20 or $25 or so one can just about be "sure" that it is not an original "Shure" unless one can get a great deal on EBay or something. |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Shure has been out of, then back into, the replacement stylus business in
recent years. Don't know about the 91 ED, though. You know, with all due respect to your Shure, you could buy a Grado Prestige Black for 40.00 or less on the internet. Much better cartridge, and not sensitive to cabling capacitance. Mark Z. -- Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam have rendered my regular e-mail address useless. "Arthur Dunger" wrote in message ... Thank you both for the warning. I was thinking of buying one of those generic replacements (haven't checked the price), just so I have a spare. Perhaps that's not such a good idea. I would have thought that manufacturing technology would allow copies of reasonable quality. I've found one place (supposedly reputable) which sells replacements which look like the original and cost in the ballpark you mentioned. I was under the impression Shure no longer manufactured replacement stylii, so anything original would therefore be NOS (New old stock) and hence subject to aging of the rubber cantilever? Rob Sofie wrote: Mark D. Zacharias: You are absolutely correct. The price that one pays will be the key. The original stylus for this very fine cartridge was a .2 x .7 mil elliptical...... so it won't be cheap. If they can be found for anything less than about $20 or $25 or so one can just about be "sure" that it is not an original "Shure" unless one can get a great deal on EBay or something. |
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Shure M91ED Phono Cartridge Specs
Shure has been out of, then back into, the replacement stylus business in
recent years. Don't know about the 91 ED, though. You know, with all due respect to your Shure, you could buy a Grado Prestige Black for 40.00 or less on the internet. Much better cartridge, and not sensitive to cabling capacitance. Mark Z. -- Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam have rendered my regular e-mail address useless. "Arthur Dunger" wrote in message ... Thank you both for the warning. I was thinking of buying one of those generic replacements (haven't checked the price), just so I have a spare. Perhaps that's not such a good idea. I would have thought that manufacturing technology would allow copies of reasonable quality. I've found one place (supposedly reputable) which sells replacements which look like the original and cost in the ballpark you mentioned. I was under the impression Shure no longer manufactured replacement stylii, so anything original would therefore be NOS (New old stock) and hence subject to aging of the rubber cantilever? Rob Sofie wrote: Mark D. Zacharias: You are absolutely correct. The price that one pays will be the key. The original stylus for this very fine cartridge was a .2 x .7 mil elliptical...... so it won't be cheap. If they can be found for anything less than about $20 or $25 or so one can just about be "sure" that it is not an original "Shure" unless one can get a great deal on EBay or something. |
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