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ZU DL-103 carts
http://www.zuaudio.com/turntables/dl103r.html
I'm just having a look around on the net about these things and have been reading some excellent reviews. Questions: Why do they have the 4 different grades and why? How do they measure them? What is the *real* difference between these and a standard Denon unit? Looking at some of the pics on the site it looks they just break open a Denon cart and stick the guts in a fancy alloy housing. Does anyone here care to comment on these? Cheers TT |
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ZU DL-103 carts
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"TT" wrote: http://www.zuaudio.com/turntables/dl103r.html I'm just having a look around on the net about these things and have been reading some excellent reviews. Questions: Why do they have the 4 different grades and why? How do they measure them? What is the *real* difference between these and a standard Denon unit? Looking at some of the pics on the site it looks they just break open a Denon cart and stick the guts in a fancy alloy housing. Does anyone here care to comment on these? Art Dudley looked at them in Stereophile: http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcom...7zu/index.html He praises the stock stylus assembly and ease of installation on Linn/Naim/Rega arms as well as describing the body changes introduced. There's more than just the new body: different epoxy, different connector assemblies. Stephen |
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"MiNe 109" wrote in message ... In article , "TT" wrote: http://www.zuaudio.com/turntables/dl103r.html I'm just having a look around on the net about these things and have been reading some excellent reviews. Questions: Why do they have the 4 different grades and why? How do they measure them? What is the *real* difference between these and a standard Denon unit? Looking at some of the pics on the site it looks they just break open a Denon cart and stick the guts in a fancy alloy housing. Does anyone here care to comment on these? Art Dudley looked at them in Stereophile: http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcom...7zu/index.html He praises the stock stylus assembly and ease of installation on Linn/Naim/Rega arms as well as describing the body changes introduced. There's more than just the new body: different epoxy, different connector assemblies. Stephen Yes I have read similar puff pieces as this. Although it has described the actual method of mounting a little better. Still none the wiser on the 4 different grades and the article only gives the one price and neglects to state which grade it is. Also my questions relates to the ZU DL-103R carts as per the link I supplied and the test was for a ZU DL -103. The actual significance of the "R" is exactly what, I have NFI ;-) Cheers TT |
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"TT" wrote: "MiNe 109" wrote in message ... In article , "TT" wrote: http://www.zuaudio.com/turntables/dl103r.html I'm just having a look around on the net about these things and have been reading some excellent reviews. Questions: Why do they have the 4 different grades and why? How do they measure them? What is the *real* difference between these and a standard Denon unit? Looking at some of the pics on the site it looks they just break open a Denon cart and stick the guts in a fancy alloy housing. Does anyone here care to comment on these? Art Dudley looked at them in Stereophile: http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcom...7zu/index.html He praises the stock stylus assembly and ease of installation on Linn/Naim/Rega arms as well as describing the body changes introduced. There's more than just the new body: different epoxy, different connector assemblies. Stephen Yes I have read similar puff pieces as this. Although it has described the actual method of mounting a little better. Still none the wiser on the 4 different grades and the article only gives the one price and neglects to state which grade it is. Also my questions relates to the ZU DL-103R carts as per the link I supplied and the test was for a ZU DL -103. The actual significance of the "R" is exactly what, I have NFI ;-) Ah. I went with the name in the subject. The models are graded by "tolerance between L&R for both output Voltage and internal coil impedance" according to a pdf you can get by clicking "specifications" on the "standard" page at the ZU website. For everyone else who wants to know: 'R' is for "Reformed". Stephen |
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"MiNe 109" wrote in message ... In article , "TT" wrote: "MiNe 109" wrote in message ... In article , "TT" wrote: http://www.zuaudio.com/turntables/dl103r.html I'm just having a look around on the net about these things and have been reading some excellent reviews. Questions: Why do they have the 4 different grades and why? How do they measure them? What is the *real* difference between these and a standard Denon unit? Looking at some of the pics on the site it looks they just break open a Denon cart and stick the guts in a fancy alloy housing. Does anyone here care to comment on these? Art Dudley looked at them in Stereophile: http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcom...7zu/index.html He praises the stock stylus assembly and ease of installation on Linn/Naim/Rega arms as well as describing the body changes introduced. There's more than just the new body: different epoxy, different connector assemblies. Stephen Yes I have read similar puff pieces as this. Although it has described the actual method of mounting a little better. Still none the wiser on the 4 different grades and the article only gives the one price and neglects to state which grade it is. Also my questions relates to the ZU DL-103R carts as per the link I supplied and the test was for a ZU DL -103. The actual significance of the "R" is exactly what, I have NFI ;-) Ah. I went with the name in the subject. The models are graded by "tolerance between L&R for both output Voltage and internal coil impedance" according to a pdf you can get by clicking "specifications" on the "standard" page at the ZU website. For everyone else who wants to know: 'R' is for "Reformed". Stephen Ahh yes. I went back to the site and you keep clicking at the bottom of the page where it says more info. So after about 3 lots of more info it finally explains this a lot better. So do we have any users out there that would care to comment? Cheers TT |
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ZU DL-103 carts
"TT" wrote in message
. au http://www.zuaudio.com/turntables/dl103r.html I'm just having a look around on the net about these things and have been reading some excellent reviews. A little money under the table here, a little money under the table there... Questions: Why do they have the 4 different grades and why? Makes it easy to extract cash from gullable audiophiles. How do they measure them? Measure? What is the *real* difference between these and a standard Denon unit? The price. Looking at some of the pics on the site it looks they just break open a Denon cart and stick the guts in a fancy alloy housing. Hold that thought. Does anyone here care to comment on these? Since vinyl is a sucker play, why not make vinyl playing hardware a sucker play squared? There have been no real advances in cartridge technology since the V15-V and the OC-9. |
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ZU DL-103 carts
"MiNe 109" wrote in message
In article , "TT" wrote: http://www.zuaudio.com/turntables/dl103r.html I'm just having a look around on the net about these things and have been reading some excellent reviews. Questions: Why do they have the 4 different grades and why? How do they measure them? What is the *real* difference between these and a standard Denon unit? Looking at some of the pics on the site it looks they just break open a Denon cart and stick the guts in a fancy alloy housing. Does anyone here care to comment on these? Art Dudley looked at them in Stereophile: http://www.stereophile.com/budgetcom...7zu/index.html Good choice of words. Look, as in do yet another totally invalid sighted evaluation. He praises the stock stylus assembly and ease of installation on Linn/Naim/Rega arms as well as describing the body changes introduced. There's more than just the new body: different epoxy, different connector assemblies. Like that makes a huge difference. Denon are hardly amateurs, trying to improve on their work in a meaningful way is not a job for backyard mechanics. |
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ZU DL-103 carts
On Mar 28, 5:20�pm, "TT" wrote:
http://www.zuaudio.com/turntables/dl103r.html I'm just having a look around on the net about these things and have been reading some excellent reviews. Questions: Why do they have the 4 different grades and why? How do they measure them? What is the *real* difference between these and a standard Denon unit? Looking at some of the pics on the site it looks they just break open a Denon cart and stick the guts in a fancy alloy housing. �Does anyone here care to comment on these? Cheers TT I have the $399 version, the lowest one. It's a fantastic cart, but then again so were the original Denons. The more expensive versions are supposed to have closer tolerances (or as we used to say in the automotive world, the "engines have been blueprinted.") I haven't compared the premium versions, but I can say that the basic version is more than adequate. Vinylsnatch, Jr. |
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ZU DL-103 carts
"TT" wrote in message . au... http://www.zuaudio.com/turntables/dl103r.html I'm just having a look around on the net about these things and have been reading some excellent reviews. Questions: Why do they have the 4 different grades and why? How do they measure them? What is the *real* difference between these and a standard Denon unit? Looking at some of the pics on the site it looks they just break open a Denon cart and stick the guts in a fancy alloy housing. Does anyone here care to comment on these? **I am unable to comment much on these, specific carts, beyond stating that I advise much caution when looking at *any* so-called 'nude' cartridge. Most cartridges employ extremely powerful magnets and very tight tolerance components. The smallest contaminant can cause havoc with such a system. With powerful magnets, ferrous contamination is a real risk. OTOH, a well damped cartridge body should present no resonance problems. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au |
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