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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
i had my car jacked up, and i was undertheeth it now as i was messing around with something somewhat near the oil filter it was some thingie that has an electronical ground thingie on it and i was unscrewing the two little bolt like screws in it i was unscrewing it to clean the wires on it like so many of you recomend to get rid of ground looping and engine sound and possible speaker mute when the engine is on. well anyways, once i unscrew those things and a SPLASH sound came out and then some nice liquid came out I say nice because it was like oil but it had that "new car" kindof smell now as i am typing this and as i try to look up what kindof fluid it is maybe it was oil but i don't know because it had that new car smell well i got to thinking , why don't i just buy a rca ground isolator for radio shack for 30 bucks now you may be thinking that might just fix the symptom and not the problem but then i got to thinkign, you see if i clean my ground wires all the time with say brake cleaner and stuff, or if actual rain water gets on the ground wires i am likely to get engine noise again so i say i should just get the ground isolators from radio shack oh btw, anyone have any clue on what feels like oil on the forearms but has a "new car" like smell, please email me the info, i might need to replace some of it |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
aww okay, i think it was the art refrigerant line
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
i think it was the air refrigerant line, but the thing is it was on the
bottom of the car not the top |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
oh btw, anyone have any clue on what feels like oil on the forearms but
has a "new car" like smell, please email me the info, i might need to replace some of it It's flostulator acid! Go to the ER! |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
Spockie wrote:
[...] i was unscrewing it to clean the wires on it like so many of you recomend to get rid of ground looping and engine sound and possible speaker mute when the engine is on. hrm, why not just run both + and - lines straight to the battery? oh btw, anyone have any clue on what feels like oil on the forearms but has a "new car" like smell, please email me the info, i might need to replace some of it what color is it? -- |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
On Mon, 10 May 2004 02:59:55 GMT, Spockie wrote:
i think it was the air refrigerant line, but the thing is it was on the bottom of the car not the top If it were refrigerant, it would have come out under pressure and rapidly turned to a gas. There is some oil in the refrigerant lines, but I think you would have noticed the loud hissing noise you would have gotten if you had opened up one of the refrigerant lines. What colour was the oil? Do you have a manual or automatic transmission? Scott |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
antifreeze maybe?
"Spockie" wrote in message 1... why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points i had my car jacked up, and i was undertheeth it now as i was messing around with something somewhat near the oil filter it was some thingie that has an electronical ground thingie on it and i was unscrewing the two little bolt like screws in it i was unscrewing it to clean the wires on it like so many of you recomend to get rid of ground looping and engine sound and possible speaker mute when the engine is on. well anyways, once i unscrew those things and a SPLASH sound came out and then some nice liquid came out I say nice because it was like oil but it had that "new car" kindof smell now as i am typing this and as i try to look up what kindof fluid it is maybe it was oil but i don't know because it had that new car smell well i got to thinking , why don't i just buy a rca ground isolator for radio shack for 30 bucks now you may be thinking that might just fix the symptom and not the problem but then i got to thinkign, you see if i clean my ground wires all the time with say brake cleaner and stuff, or if actual rain water gets on the ground wires i am likely to get engine noise again so i say i should just get the ground isolators from radio shack oh btw, anyone have any clue on what feels like oil on the forearms but has a "new car" like smell, please email me the info, i might need to replace some of it |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
I don't like to use isolators - not because I think they're
necessarily bad, but just because they don't always work, and you can't tell beforehand whether they'll solve your problem or not. Choosing a grounding scheme wisely and cleaning the ground points ALWAYS works, however. I'm not sure what you were doing under your engine, but you don't have to clean every single ground connection in your car, just the ones for your charging system and your stereo. If you want the most foolproof grounding method, ground everything in the stereo system to the same point in the car. This includes the head unit, the amplifiers, and any signal processors. Make sure you pick a solid ground point, preferably inside the car where it will stay clean, and then clean/upgrade the wiring between your alternator and your battery, between your battery and your chassis, and between the engine and the chassis. If you do this, every part of your stereo will be grounded to the same point, and if that point has a clean path to the negative terminal of your battery, you've eliminated the chance of having ground loops. Scott Gardner On Mon, 10 May 2004 02:49:39 GMT, Spockie wrote: why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points i had my car jacked up, and i was undertheeth it now as i was messing around with something somewhat near the oil filter it was some thingie that has an electronical ground thingie on it and i was unscrewing the two little bolt like screws in it i was unscrewing it to clean the wires on it like so many of you recomend to get rid of ground looping and engine sound and possible speaker mute when the engine is on. well anyways, once i unscrew those things and a SPLASH sound came out and then some nice liquid came out I say nice because it was like oil but it had that "new car" kindof smell now as i am typing this and as i try to look up what kindof fluid it is maybe it was oil but i don't know because it had that new car smell well i got to thinking , why don't i just buy a rca ground isolator for radio shack for 30 bucks now you may be thinking that might just fix the symptom and not the problem but then i got to thinkign, you see if i clean my ground wires all the time with say brake cleaner and stuff, or if actual rain water gets on the ground wires i am likely to get engine noise again so i say i should just get the ground isolators from radio shack oh btw, anyone have any clue on what feels like oil on the forearms but has a "new car" like smell, please email me the info, i might need to replace some of it |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
What colour was the oil? Do you have a manual or automatic transmission? auto trans and it did make a hissing sound it is oil and the hissiing sound and stuff scared everyone around me my father came outside and ask if something caught on fire it is clear oil i will refill it i tried the air condition thingie and it did not feel cold also i am going to get rca ground isolators for the headunit i am not sure if i shoudl get some for the amp too ... |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
i am kindof sure that the grounding is not the amp grounding but the
grounding of stuff around the engine like when i was messing with the wires that ground the air refrigerant on the bottom and took that stuff off and so forht the whole sound system sounds different, i get differnet popping sounds and as well as other noises, kindof interesting, but i think that just tells me the main problem grounding is that, refrigerant grounding point |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
well i got to thinking , why don't i just buy a rca ground isolator for radio shack for 30 bucks now you may be thinking that might just fix the symptom and not the problem but then i got to thinkign, you see if i clean my ground wires all the time with say brake cleaner and stuff, or if actual rain water gets on the ground wires i am likely to get engine noise again Basically you're saying you're going to use ground lifts to compensate for wiring that may become corroded again.....BAD MOVE! First of all, ground lifts can have an effect on sound quality. Granted, there are times when they are the only way - but being too lazy to ground a system properly is not a good reason. Second, a car amp that has a bad ground do to corrosion caused by your failure to keep the contact points clean and protected against water, will be major starved for power. Not a good thing. so i say i should just get the ground isolators from radio shack Hmm...well I hate to say this, but ...... I say it's probably time you take your car into a shop so they can install your stereo for you. |
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let all the OIL out when cleaning ground points
ha ha ha
I been doing this for 30 years and NEVER seen anyone nearly that stoopid..... Spockie wrote: well anyways, once i unscrew those things and a SPLASH sound came out and then some nice liquid came out I say nice because it was like oil but it had that "new car" kindof smell |
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let all the OIL out when cleaning ground points
i replaced the air refrigerant
i put a 12 guage wire to connect my old ground point that is in the front near my driver seat and is the gorund point for the head unit , and some alarm stuff i connected that gorund point using a wire to the trunk ground point now both my ground points are connected and this should make you all happy i also installed two ground loop isolators, one near the head unit and one near the amp i just need to go to the store later and replace the amp ground wire connection end. it better work right |
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let all the OIL out when cleaning ground points
so are you saying you ran a wire from the oil pan drain bolt
to the refrigerant drain bolt (didnt know there was one) and then grounded them both to the ground in the trunk..?? ha ha ha ha Mark, I dont care how much you hate installers, this guy needs one.... ha ha ha Spockie wrote: i replaced the air refrigerant i put a 12 guage wire to connect my old ground point that is in the front near my driver seat and is the gorund point for the head unit , and some alarm stuff i connected that gorund point using a wire to the trunk ground point now both my ground points are connected and this should make you all happy i also installed two ground loop isolators, one near the head unit and one near the amp i just need to go to the store later and replace the amp ground wire connection end. it better work right |
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let all the OIL out when cleaning ground points
"Eddie Runner" wrote in message ... so are you saying you ran a wire from the oil pan drain bolt to the refrigerant drain bolt (didnt know there was one) and then grounded them both to the ground in the trunk..?? ha ha ha ha Mark, I dont care how much you hate installers, this guy needs one.... ha ha ha That's true, I think even CC would have more of a clue than this guy. So Eddie, why do you think he is so focused on the grounds everywhere and thinking it's going to solve his problem? Usually you can figure out the flawed logic but this guy is puzzling. Les Spockie wrote: i replaced the air refrigerant i put a 12 guage wire to connect my old ground point that is in the front near my driver seat and is the gorund point for the head unit , and some alarm stuff i connected that gorund point using a wire to the trunk ground point now both my ground points are connected and this should make you all happy i also installed two ground loop isolators, one near the head unit and one near the amp i just need to go to the store later and replace the amp ground wire connection end. it better work right |
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let all the OIL out when cleaning ground points
he aint hard to figgure out....!!!
I think he is a troll... No one could be that stupid.... And every post he seems to be taking someone very literally as if he is trying to blame his mistakes on whoever gave him vague advice.... Its prolly one of the regulars, Liz or Mark Z or someone with thier email address changed to look like a dumb moron, meybe even you!... Im sure its just a gag, no one could be stupid enough to try to run a ground wire under the engine to the oil bolt.... ha ha ha.. not pussling at all.... ;-) Eddie Les wrote: That's true, I think even CC would have more of a clue than this guy. So Eddie, why do you think he is so focused on the grounds everywhere and thinking it's going to solve his problem? Usually you can figure out the flawed logic but this guy is puzzling. Les |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
okay
i think if i turn on the engine the sound sysetm sounds fine but when i move forward or back in the car the front speakers go mute i connected the front driver side and the rear/amp/trunk ground point with a 12 guage but still no go also ground loop isolators ain't helping i am going to get an ohm reader soon maybe this weekend to check the ohm level then get backl to you guys the sound system sounds soooo ****ing wonderful when all speakers work but it sound like **** otherwise i also tried turning volume on the amp all the way low for the rear all the way high for the front , the rears still only ones that have sound and the fronts just pop and have more engine sound more |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning groundpoints
Scott Johnson wrote:
antifreeze maybe? Scott....have you ever serviced your engine? Antifreeze isn't oily. Sounds like DOT3 brake fluid to me. -- thelizman "I didn't steal the FAQ either" Before you ask a question, check the FAQs for this newsgroup at http://www.mobileaudio.com/rac-faq. It contains over a decade and a half of knowledge. teamROCS Car Audio Forums http://www.teamrocs.com/caraudio/ teamROCS Car Audio News http://www.teamrocs.com/news/ "It's about the music, stupid" This post is Copyright (C) 2004. Reproduction of its content anywhere other than usenet without the express written permission of the author is forbidden. |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
Scott....have you ever serviced your engine? Antifreeze isn't oily.
If it is, you've got bigger problems to deal with than ground wires... |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
thelizman wrote in news:10a5btahctf0s52
@corp.supernews.com: Scott Johnson wrote: antifreeze maybe? Scott....have you ever serviced your engine? Antifreeze isn't oily. Sounds like DOT3 brake fluid to me. yep dude i already said that it was air conditioning refrigerant |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
"thelizman" wrote in message ... Scott Johnson wrote: antifreeze maybe? Scott....have you ever serviced your engine? Antifreeze isn't oily. Sounds like DOT3 brake fluid to me. \ Yes, i have. some brands of antifreeze have a slick texture that could be mistaken for oily. |
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why rca ground isolators just sound better than cleaning ground points
I wouldn't be surprised if someone described antifreeze as "oily".
It's certainly "slippery", but you're right, it's not thick enough to really feel "oily". I don't really think brake fluid feels "oily", either though. Anyway, from his later post where he described the hissing noise when he opened up the connection, and the fact that his A/C stopped working afterwards, what he probably got on his arm was oil from the cooling system. "The Other Scott" Gardner On Wed, 12 May 2004 16:13:47 -0400, thelizman wrote: Scott Johnson wrote: antifreeze maybe? Scott....have you ever serviced your engine? Antifreeze isn't oily. Sounds like DOT3 brake fluid to me. |
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