"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...
Dean Martin - That's Amore.

Denon all format player Nagra tube amps Avantgarde horns = Heaven.

Dean Martin IS singing in my music room. I can almost touch him. sigh It
is moments like this that only tubes and horns can create...when
everything is just right. Nothing can replicate the dynamics in my
experience...nothing can relax like a concert experience at one's own
house.

Thank you John Atkinson for carrying the torch for us enlightened ones!
:-)

Lined up on the RL trunk:

Jose Carreras - Misa Criolla
Shaggy - Mr. Lover Lover (The Best of)
Chuck Berry - The Chess Box


Cheers,

Margaret

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...
Dean Martin - That's Amore.

Denon all format player Nagra tube amps Avantgarde horns = Heaven.

Dean Martin IS singing in my music room. I can almost touch him. sigh
It is moments like this that only tubes and horns can create...when
everything is just right. Nothing can replicate the dynamics in my
experience...nothing can relax like a concert experience at one's own
house.

Thank you John Atkinson for carrying the torch for us enlightened ones!
:-)

Lined up on the RL trunk:

Jose Carreras - Misa Criolla
Shaggy - Mr. Lover Lover (The Best of)
Chuck Berry - The Chess Box


Cheers,

Margaret


Change of venue since my niece arrived a few hours ahead of schedule and
took over as the DJ.

Rammstein - Du Hast
Hanoi Rocks - In My Darkest Moment

Only Shaggy made the cut....

....but I feel younger now!

Cheers,

Margaret

Rammstein - Du Hast

My son used to listen to this in his dark days, but I really liked
'Mutter'

Andras Schiff playing the Mozart piano concertos with the Camerata
Academica, Salzburg, the Decca set. Currently on disc 9, nos 26 and 27,
again. I just can't let such fine music disappear back into storage.

My friend Peter Allen of the Melbourne Audio Club and other
achievements, shared wise counsel he received from a constant
audiophile: don't play any of your discs more than once a month and
play it no more than twice. To encourage self-control, I store my CDs
in flat fruit boxes, about 250 to the boxes. The boxes are stacked
eight high. It is a major musclebuilding operation to get at the box at
the bottom to take out a favourite disc, so I tend to play through a
box (not everything, just the favourites) before moving on to the next.
But I can linger over the Mozart and Bach and Handel boxes for months
each.

[Smacks head]

Must have more discipline!

Do you have any Roy Orbison, Margaret?

Andre Jute

Margaret von B. wrote:
"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...
Dean Martin - That's Amore.

Denon all format player Nagra tube amps Avantgarde horns = Heaven.

Dean Martin IS singing in my music room. I can almost touch him. sigh It
is moments like this that only tubes and horns can create...when
everything is just right. Nothing can replicate the dynamics in my
experience...nothing can relax like a concert experience at one's own
house.

Thank you John Atkinson for carrying the torch for us enlightened ones!
:-)

Lined up on the RL trunk:

Jose Carreras - Misa Criolla
Shaggy - Mr. Lover Lover (The Best of)
Chuck Berry - The Chess Box


Cheers,

Margaret

in article , Andre Jute
at wrote on 12/15/05 11:16 PM:

Andras Schiff playing the Mozart piano concertos with the Camerata
Academica, Salzburg, the Decca set. Currently on disc 9, nos 26 and 27,
again. I just can't let such fine music disappear back into storage.

My friend Peter Allen of the Melbourne Audio Club and other
achievements, shared wise counsel he received from a constant
audiophile: don't play any of your discs more than once a month and
play it no more than twice. To encourage self-control, I store my CDs
in flat fruit boxes, about 250 to the boxes. The boxes are stacked
eight high. It is a major musclebuilding operation to get at the box at
the bottom to take out a favourite disc, so I tend to play through a
box (not everything, just the favourites) before moving on to the next.
But I can linger over the Mozart and Bach and Handel boxes for months
each.

[Smacks head]

Must have more discipline!

Do you have any Roy Orbison, Margaret?

Andre Jute


Does anyone give a damn what you listen to? Of course not, you
over-inflated ass.

Andre Jute = attention whore

"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...
in article , Andre
Jute
at wrote on 12/15/05 11:16 PM:

Andras Schiff playing the Mozart piano concertos with the Camerata
Academica, Salzburg, the Decca set. Currently on disc 9, nos 26 and 27,
again. I just can't let such fine music disappear back into storage.


Does anyone give a damn what you listen to? Of course not, you
over-inflated ass.


C'mon Jon. That's a bit harsh.

Do you know the Schiff recordings?
Andre is referring to the 13CD Decca set 443 747-2.
Wonderful performances - highly recommended.

Iain

Iain Churches wrote:
Andre Jute at wrote on 12/15/05 11:16 PM:

Andras Schiff playing the Mozart piano concertos with the Camerata
Academica, Salzburg, the Decca set. Currently on disc 9, nos 26 and 27,
again. I just can't let such fine music disappear back into storage.

Andre is referring to the 13CD Decca set 443 747-2.
Wonderful performances - highly recommended.

Iain

Actually, Iain, now that I go looking for the 'missing' 4 CDs, I notice
my Schiff set is the 9CD Decca set 448 140-2 lacking concertos 1-3, 8,
10. I wos robbed! (Hey, Marie, I'll just remember you gave *my*
complete set to Iain...)

The first *complete* set of the Mozart Piano Concertos out of my boxes
is my next favourite, Jeno Jando with Concentus Hungaricus under Andras
Ligeti/Matias Antal, Naxos set in two boxes, Vol 1 8.505011 and Vol 2
8.506002.

Do you know the work of the Polish pianist Andre Tchaikowsky? He died
young but sometime in the early 1970s in a very busy festival where I
was up till the early hours every night as the host of the literary
side, I rose for his 10am (how effing uncivilized can the schedulers
get?) performance every day for a fortnight. A couple of years later I
paid Christopher Hogwood the same respect; a totally different
approach. Not many can get me out of bed before noon...

Andre Jute

The garage vermin Jon Yaeger wrote:
in article , Andre Jute
at wrote on 12/15/05 11:16 PM:

Andras Schiff playing the Mozart piano concertos with the Camerata
Academica, Salzburg, the Decca set. Currently on disc 9, nos 26 and 27,
again. I just can't let such fine music disappear back into storage.

Andre Jute

Does anyone give a damn what you listen to? Of course not, you
over-inflated ass.

Why, Yaeger, everyone was asked.

Who do you think you are to decide who can contribute, you scummy
little crook?

Do you think we don't notice for a couple of years now that every time
I write something, there you are in the thread dragging a trail of
slime with your snide, personal, off-topic comments?

Here's another provocation from you for no reason whatsoever except
your sick obsession with me:

Andre Jute = attention whore

And another on the same day:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...6b6bdf566e0c6e

Time for you to grow up and get a life, sonny, or soon I shall decide I
need the exercise of riding your slack ass into compost.

Andre Jute
Zero tolerance for pestilential vermin at home and abroad

C'mon Jon. That's a bit harsh.

Do you know the Schiff recordings?
Andre is referring to the 13CD Decca set 443 747-2.
Wonderful performances - highly recommended.

Iain



Iain,

Harsh? I don't think so under the circumstances.

Andre's trying to transform R.A.T. into his personal blog. I don't want to
read about his eating habits or daily excretions.

What's really ****ed me off is that he has engaged the denizens of R.A.O. to
post their crap on R.A.T., and in doing so has done as much to ruin this
N.G. as McCarty & Morein have to rec.audio.marketplace.

I don't believe that I am the only one who regards the exchanges on R.A.O.
as a complete waste of time. They can post whatever they like there, but
Andre flaunts the fact that THIS N.G. is about tubes and tubecraft.
Apparently, the only thing Jute cares about is feeding his enormous,
pathological ego.

I don't know the Schiff recordings. My general preference is jazz; I am a
lightweight on classical. Sometime I'd love to get your opinion as a
recording engineer on that genre, but I don't want to subject everyone else
to my O.T. interests.

Best regards,

Jon

in article , Andre Jute
at wrote on 12/16/05 4:26 AM:


The garage vermin Jon Yaeger wrote:


Time for you to grow up and get a life, sonny, or soon I shall decide I
need the exercise of riding your slack ass into compost.

*** I'm sure that if you were capable of such you would have done it by
now. Stick with tubes, not your pasta ingestion habits and the other O.T.
BS you post here and you'll hear nothing more from me.




Andre Jute
Zero tolerance for pestilential vermin at home and abroad

Jon Yaeger wrote:

C'mon Jon. That's a bit harsh.

Do you know the Schiff recordings?
Andre is referring to the 13CD Decca set 443 747-2.
Wonderful performances - highly recommended.

Iain


Iain,

Harsh? I don't think so under the circumstances.

Andre's trying to transform R.A.T. into his personal blog. I don't want to
read about his eating habits or daily excretions.

Nor do i but then so damn what.




What's really ****ed me off is that he has engaged the denizens of R.A.O. to
post their crap on R.A.T., and in doing so has done as much to ruin this
N.G. as McCarty & Morein have to rec.audio.marketplace.

Things are lively at present, not in the doldrums like they were a month ago.

Sure, many posts are cross posted; I just delete rao where I see fit.



I don't believe that I am the only one who regards the exchanges on R.A.O.
as a complete waste of time. They can post whatever they like there, but
Andre flaunts the fact that THIS N.G. is about tubes and tubecraft.
Apparently, the only thing Jute cares about is feeding his enormous,
pathological ego.

In don't mind the flaunting that this is supposed to be a tubacious group.

It semed to me that A started with his old chestnut about NFB in SET,
and pretty soon the flamers rolled in, but it was really all lettuce leaf
battles.
SET users are not going to be deterred by the same old rabble from rao
or anywhere else.

Its no good blaming A for spoiling the group if there simply ain't
much soldering goin on by anyone, and not many technical questions.





I don't know the Schiff recordings. My general preference is jazz; I am a
lightweight on classical. Sometime I'd love to get your opinion as a
recording engineer on that genre, but I don't want to subject everyone else
to my O.T. interests.

Best regards,

Jon

C'mon Jon, music isn't OT at r.a.t, now surely not.

Toobes are about moozik, surely.

Patrick Turner.

in article , Patrick Turner at
wrote on 12/16/05 11:56 AM:



C'mon Jon, music isn't OT at r.a.t, now surely not.

Toobes are about moozik, surely.

Patrick Turner.


You're right, Patrick. It's ALL about the music.

Perhaps the format could be:

"The 13CD Decca set 443 747-2 sounds marvelous on a 300B SE amp; however, a
PP amp would probably bring out the details of the kettle drum's lower
registers . . . .


; -)

Kiri te Kanawa
Exulate Jubilate

And since I am in the office, through a Yamaha CD changer, Revox A78
amp and AR4x speakers. Tubes are not appropriate in this environment
for several reasons having mostly to do with bulk and that I am in and
out all the time.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

don't play any of your discs more than once a month and
play it no more than twice

YIKES!

Why?

Do the bits go stale? This is a digitally encoded stamped (OK, pressed,
but at the speed with which they are made, stamped describes it better)
medium, covered in hard plastic, and played by a method that does not
physically touch the encoded information. Unless one is dealing with a
pretty wretched CD transport, and/or filthy handling habits, there is
no theoretical limit to how many times they can be played within a
given period.... and if they do wear out (which is starting to happen
with some of the earliest-made discs), the failure is
materials-related, not use-related.

Someone has GOT to be kidding, likely the same person that passed the
rumor that a green magic marker (or was it blue) makes CDs sound
better... And on the outer rim for crissakes... when they program and
play from the center out, and last I heard of a specific brand!

Why/how does stuff like this get started, and who believes it when it
does, and why? Does some joker have a hot-flash in the middle of a
lonely night and decide how -he- will roil the audiophool world this
time?

Lemme see, in the last several months:

Little towers for raising speaker wire.
Cryogenically treated _____ (tubes, receptacles, interconnects, even
wooden speaker pads)
Full-range single drivers. Define "full" and "range".
Orienting components to the magnetic field.
Orienting components to True North.
Orienting components to Magnetic fields generated in the listening
room.

I do know that vinyl is not at all happy with repeated and
close-in-time playings, if one calculates the force of the stylus in
the groove, figuring 1gm over ~0.005" by 0.00015" as an elipse, bearing
on the vinyl across an area of about 0.00015 x 0.004 x 2 comes to some
1860 pounds per square inch, for round figures. And in this case we
have a diamond (pretty hard) impacting on plastic anywhere from 20 to
20,000 times per second in a grove moving at an average of 12 inches
per second, more or less. Some heat is generated. The diamond is just
fine with the heat, it's seen worse. The vinyl is not, if repeatedly
abused.

But, guys and gals, the laser does not touch the substrate. And the
heating/cooling issues are substantially different as are the
degrade-results.

Or am I completely missing something? Remember, we Americans have NO
sense of humor.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

" said:

Little towers for raising speaker wire.
Cryogenically treated _____ (tubes, receptacles, interconnects, even
wooden speaker pads)
Full-range single drivers. Define "full" and "range".
Orienting components to the magnetic field.
Orienting components to True North.
Orienting components to Magnetic fields generated in the listening
room.


All kid's stuff, compared to this miracle machine:
http://www.i4u.com/article2620.html

--

"Audio as a serious hobby is going down the tubes."
- Howard Ferstler, 25/4/2005

wrote in message
oups.com...
: Kiri te Kanawa
: Exulate Jubilate
:
: And since I am in the office, through a Yamaha CD changer, Revox A78
: amp and AR4x speakers. Tubes are not appropriate in this environment
: for several reasons having mostly to do with bulk and that I am in and
: out all the time.
:
: Peter Wieck
: Wyncote, PA
:

now playing: Jazzkantine - Futter fuer die Seele - Benutz Mich
Rudy

In article ,
Sander deWaal wrote:

" said:

Little towers for raising speaker wire.
Cryogenically treated _____ (tubes, receptacles, interconnects, even
wooden speaker pads)
Full-range single drivers. Define "full" and "range".
Orienting components to the magnetic field.
Orienting components to True North.
Orienting components to Magnetic fields generated in the listening
room.


All kid's stuff, compared to this miracle machine:
http://www.i4u.com/article2620.html

Does it work on DVD-R?

Stephen

Peter, you and Signal both have the wrong end of this stick. The advice
to limit one's playing of favourite discs is not based on any possible
damage to the discs, it is to protect one's discrimination and broaden
one's culture. Out of my 6000 discs, and stretching matters a bit to
include sets or complete sets, and stretching it further to include
duplicates of sets, all counted as one disc each, the core I could not
live without is probably a hundred units or "discs". Doesn't matter if
it is two hundred. The point is that it is a small percentage of the
total. Reduced to an absurdity, I could play my box of eight test discs
over and over and feel no pain, and I could play Emma Kirkby singing
the songs of Hildegard over and over for days on end. The rule is to
stop that sort of self-indulgence. One does actually need a wider
exposure, variety and so on.

Currently playing the complete Mozart Violin Concertos by Isaac Stern.

Andre Jute

wrote:
don't play any of your discs more than once a month and
play it no more than twice

YIKES!

Why?

Do the bits go stale? This is a digitally encoded stamped (OK, pressed,
but at the speed with which they are made, stamped describes it better)
medium, covered in hard plastic, and played by a method that does not
physically touch the encoded information. Unless one is dealing with a
pretty wretched CD transport, and/or filthy handling habits, there is
no theoretical limit to how many times they can be played within a
given period.... and if they do wear out (which is starting to happen
with some of the earliest-made discs), the failure is
materials-related, not use-related.

Someone has GOT to be kidding, likely the same person that passed the
rumor that a green magic marker (or was it blue) makes CDs sound
better... And on the outer rim for crissakes... when they program and
play from the center out, and last I heard of a specific brand!

Why/how does stuff like this get started, and who believes it when it
does, and why? Does some joker have a hot-flash in the middle of a
lonely night and decide how -he- will roil the audiophool world this
time?

Lemme see, in the last several months:

Little towers for raising speaker wire.
Cryogenically treated _____ (tubes, receptacles, interconnects, even
wooden speaker pads)
Full-range single drivers. Define "full" and "range".
Orienting components to the magnetic field.
Orienting components to True North.
Orienting components to Magnetic fields generated in the listening
room.

I do know that vinyl is not at all happy with repeated and
close-in-time playings, if one calculates the force of the stylus in
the groove, figuring 1gm over ~0.005" by 0.00015" as an elipse, bearing
on the vinyl across an area of about 0.00015 x 0.004 x 2 comes to some
1860 pounds per square inch, for round figures. And in this case we
have a diamond (pretty hard) impacting on plastic anywhere from 20 to
20,000 times per second in a grove moving at an average of 12 inches
per second, more or less. Some heat is generated. The diamond is just
fine with the heat, it's seen worse. The vinyl is not, if repeatedly
abused.

But, guys and gals, the laser does not touch the substrate. And the
heating/cooling issues are substantially different as are the
degrade-results.

Or am I completely missing something? Remember, we Americans have NO
sense of humor.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Mpfffff... OK. Sorry for misunderstanding.

But, and as one who has lived within a _completely_ different culture
than my home (and enjoyed every bit of it until it got a bit too hot),
I find that broadening culture is an attitude from within rather than a
muscle that needs exercise. If all work is honorable, and all honestly
held beliefs demand respect, and every human has value until proven
otherwise, grasping at artificial measures is unnecessary.

When I am driving (I do, a lot as part of the job), the same 20 or so
CDs get the job done. And that they range from Emmylou Harris to
Vivaldi's Gloria to The Chieftains is no one's business but my own...
not in a selfish sense, please do not misunderstand that statement. But
in the sense that they are stimulating, demand attention (so I stay
awake) and are a 'good noise'. I put no intellectual stock in music,
much as work, all music is honorable. That I do not understand some
segments of it is as likely my failing, not necessarily a failing of
the music. That I generally prefer Mozart to Led Zeppelin has nothing
to do with education, achievement, or anything else other than what I
like and what I prefer. I am no masochist. When it comes to food,
drink, music and culture, I will try about anything once. But if I
dislike the experience, I feel no intellectual need to try it again. I
am long past the stage where I have anything to prove and pretty much
at the stage where my professional and personal reputation is made,
there being no need to make any statements, sound trumpets or put
pointers to prove anything to a stranger. That they judge by my actions
and by the results I cause, no more, is enough. There are perhaps four
people (my family) on this earth who have any actual power whatsoever
over my life and my happiness. Friends, acquaintances and colleagues
are wonderful, important, and to be cherished and/or respected
depending on where they fall in that range. But they have no real power
over me or how I choose to live. You might think about this before you
put yourself in a maze where your turnings and progress are measured by
'rules' and perceived 'protections' of your intellectual powers. If
they are so insubstantial as they need that sort of thing, NOTHING
imposed will preserve them.

Following the advice of another on how to enjoy your life is a fool's
game. Putting limits on how you live your life and make such minute
decisions as the choice of 'good noise' is terribly sad. I truly hope
that I am understanding what you said as poorly as the first time, but
if my understanding is at all accurate, it certainly explains a great
deal.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

There you go, Peter. You've misunderstood again. Nobody tells me what
to do; my god is curiosity. I share information, I offer trivia equally
with pearls of wisdom; I respect your intelligence to do with them what
you will but I don't actually care what you think until you prove
useful or entertaining. On the other hand, I don't pass moral
judgements until someone puts himself in my face and tries to prescribe
for me; I leave that sort of pointless moralizing to leftwingers and
Americans, who both seem to derive some spurious comfort of superioty
from it. -- AJ


wrote:
Mpfffff... OK. Sorry for misunderstanding.

But, and as one who has lived within a _completely_ different culture
than my home (and enjoyed every bit of it until it got a bit too hot),
I find that broadening culture is an attitude from within rather than a
muscle that needs exercise. If all work is honorable, and all honestly
held beliefs demand respect, and every human has value until proven
otherwise, grasping at artificial measures is unnecessary.

When I am driving (I do, a lot as part of the job), the same 20 or so
CDs get the job done. And that they range from Emmylou Harris to
Vivaldi's Gloria to The Chieftains is no one's business but my own...
not in a selfish sense, please do not misunderstand that statement. But
in the sense that they are stimulating, demand attention (so I stay
awake) and are a 'good noise'. I put no intellectual stock in music,
much as work, all music is honorable. That I do not understand some
segments of it is as likely my failing, not necessarily a failing of
the music. That I generally prefer Mozart to Led Zeppelin has nothing
to do with education, achievement, or anything else other than what I
like and what I prefer. I am no masochist. When it comes to food,
drink, music and culture, I will try about anything once. But if I
dislike the experience, I feel no intellectual need to try it again. I
am long past the stage where I have anything to prove and pretty much
at the stage where my professional and personal reputation is made,
there being no need to make any statements, sound trumpets or put
pointers to prove anything to a stranger. That they judge by my actions
and by the results I cause, no more, is enough. There are perhaps four
people (my family) on this earth who have any actual power whatsoever
over my life and my happiness. Friends, acquaintances and colleagues
are wonderful, important, and to be cherished and/or respected
depending on where they fall in that range. But they have no real power
over me or how I choose to live. You might think about this before you
put yourself in a maze where your turnings and progress are measured by
'rules' and perceived 'protections' of your intellectual powers. If
they are so insubstantial as they need that sort of thing, NOTHING
imposed will preserve them.

Following the advice of another on how to enjoy your life is a fool's
game. Putting limits on how you live your life and make such minute
decisions as the choice of 'good noise' is terribly sad. I truly hope
that I am understanding what you said as poorly as the first time, but
if my understanding is at all accurate, it certainly explains a great
deal.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

"Margaret von B." wrote:

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...
Dean Martin - That's Amore.

Denon all format player Nagra tube amps Avantgarde horns = Heaven.

Dean Martin IS singing in my music room. I can almost touch him. sigh It
is moments like this that only tubes and horns can create...when
everything is just right. Nothing can replicate the dynamics in my
experience...nothing can relax like a concert experience at one's own
house.

Thank you John Atkinson for carrying the torch for us enlightened ones!
:-)

Lined up on the RL trunk:

Jose Carreras - Misa Criolla
Shaggy - Mr. Lover Lover (The Best of)
Chuck Berry - The Chess Box

The Sisters of Mercy - A Slight Case of Overbombing
U2 - The Joshua Tree

Graham

" wrote:

don't play any of your discs more than once a month and
play it no more than twice

YIKES!

Why?

Do the bits go stale? This is a digitally encoded stamped......

Oh ! I never imagined the advice was to do with technical reasons (
obviously an insane concept ).

I thought he meant don't play it too often or you may tire of it and it
will lose its appeal.

Graham

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
...


"Margaret von B." wrote:

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...
Dean Martin - That's Amore.

Denon all format player Nagra tube amps Avantgarde horns = Heaven.

Dean Martin IS singing in my music room. I can almost touch him. sigh
It
is moments like this that only tubes and horns can create...when
everything is just right. Nothing can replicate the dynamics in my
experience...nothing can relax like a concert experience at one's own
house.

Thank you John Atkinson for carrying the torch for us enlightened ones!
:-)

Lined up on the RL trunk:

Jose Carreras - Misa Criolla
Shaggy - Mr. Lover Lover (The Best of)
Chuck Berry - The Chess Box

The Sisters of Mercy - A Slight Case of Overbombing

Sounds familiar. This Corrosion was an anthem in my youth in Boston. I think
their communism was a rather silly marketing trick. But I did like the
music.


U2 - The Joshua Tree

Graham


I'm spinning Lonely and Blue. Thanks Andre for reminding I had Roy Orbison!
Lined up: Chris Rea - Auberge.

Cheers,

Margaret

Andre Jute wrote:

There you go, Peter

What's with all this top-posting ?

Have to get your words in first ?

Graham

I thought he meant don't play it too often or you may tire of it and it
will lose its appeal.

I would have thought that except for the way the stricture was stated,
and that it was given as 'received wisdom'. A rigid time period and a
rigid quantity within that period. SOoooo much like other audiophoolery
that it was almost indistinguishable.

There is enough going on in my life that from week to week I seldom
remember what I played last week and in what order. In a month... And
at work, I really need only about 10 CDs, for those few times that the
music passes from background to foreground and imprints on memory. Even
then, a clear female soprano voice singing Mozart will support
considerable repetition.


Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:28:01 GMT, "Margaret von B."
wrote:

"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
...

U2 - The Joshua Tree

I'm spinning Lonely and Blue. Thanks Andre for reminding I had Roy Orbison!
Lined up: Chris Rea - Auberge.

Turns out to be an interesting thread. Personally,
the tail end of _Exile in Guyville_ for the gazillionth
time. Yeah, I know, ...

So it's time for some Emmerich Kalman. Love _Grafin
Mariza_; all that schmaltzy stuff works for me; always has.
What can I say?

Chris Hornbeck
"** Satan is smirking at you."

Margaret von B. wrote:
I'm spinning Lonely and Blue. Thanks Andre for reminding I had Roy Orbison!
Lined up: Chris Rea - Auberge.

Cheers,

Margaret

Hey! You inspired me to take down my pop box. Three discs of Roy
Orbison, currently singing The Crowd, 48 songs altogether. Oh my God,
that is genuine blue collar longing, genuine emotion, nothing fake like
The Beatles, middle class boys pretending to be working class. Next out
of the box, behind the three Orbison discs, I grabbed this handful,
which are waiting on my side table:
a Chuck Berry (1) compilation cover disc from a magazine series we
designed, Fontella Bass No Ways Tired, Nat King Cole Let's Face the
Music, The Bonzo Dog Band. My pop library is only about 250 discs,
including recorded humour and indispensable musicals and film music,
and that is a fair representation: it probably types me as an incurably
old-fashioned 1950/60s rocker/romantic, zero street cred. Watch me
worry, Dr Neumann.

I'll also look out the Songs of the Auvergne though not by Chris Rea!
Thanks for the mnemonic transference, Margaret.

This is a super thread you started.

Andre Jute

(1) One of the great quotes of the twentieth century: "They pulled the
plug in the middle of my song. That's like pulling a man off the job."
-- Chuck Berry, explaining in two short sentences what rock'n'roll was
really about, putting all the intellectuals in their place.

Andre Jute wrote:

Margaret von B. wrote:
I'm spinning Lonely and Blue. Thanks Andre for reminding I had Roy Orbison!
Lined up: Chris Rea - Auberge.

Cheers,

Margaret

Hey! You inspired me to take down my pop box. Three discs of Roy
Orbison, currently singing The Crowd, 48 songs altogether. Oh my God,
that is genuine blue collar longing, genuine emotion, nothing fake like
The Beatles, middle class boys pretending to be working class. Next out
of the box, behind the three Orbison discs, I grabbed this handful,
which are waiting on my side table:
a Chuck Berry (1) compilation cover disc from a magazine series we
designed, Fontella Bass No Ways Tired, Nat King Cole Let's Face the
Music, The Bonzo Dog Band.

Erk !!!!!

I did the sound for Viv Stanshall's band once.

Bloody lousy venue ( Student Union bar @ Trent Park IIRC ) with concrete beams in
the ceiling aiding the feedback.

It was something of a 'no-hope' gig esp. since Viv's band wanted me to mike an
upright piano in those circumstances.

Not often I've been in a situation where I'd have loved to simply walk away.


Graham

On 16 Dec 2005 15:02:06 -0800, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Peter, you and Signal both have the wrong end of this stick. The advice
to limit one's playing of favourite discs is not based on any possible
damage to the discs, it is to protect one's discrimination and broaden
one's culture.

Glad you cleared that up, Andre, because I too was confused and
beginning to wonder what damage I'd inadvertently done my collection.
But the way you put it, "My friend Peter Allen...shared wise counsel
he received from a constant audiophile: don't play any of your discs
more than once a month and play it no more than twice," did seem to
suggest physical harm could result from too many laser passes! :-)

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:27:53 +0000, Pooh Bear
wrote:


Oh ! I never imagined the advice was to do with technical reasons (
obviously an insane concept ).

I thought he meant don't play it too often or you may tire of it and it
will lose its appeal.

I'd like to know how you arrived at this sage conclusion from what was
actually written.

"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...

C'mon Jon. That's a bit harsh.

Do you know the Schiff recordings?
Andre is referring to the 13CD Decca set 443 747-2.
Wonderful performances - highly recommended.

Iain



Iain,

Harsh? I don't think so under the circumstances.

Andre's trying to transform R.A.T. into his personal blog. I don't want
to
read about his eating habits or daily excretions.

What's really ****ed me off is that he has engaged the denizens of R.A.O.
to
post their crap on R.A.T., and in doing so has done as much to ruin this
N.G. as McCarty & Morein have to rec.audio.marketplace.

I don't believe that I am the only one who regards the exchanges on R.A.O.
as a complete waste of time. They can post whatever they like there, but
Andre flaunts the fact that THIS N.G. is about tubes and tubecraft.
Apparently, the only thing Jute cares about is feeding his enormous,
pathological ego.

I don't know the Schiff recordings. My general preference is jazz; I am a
lightweight on classical. Sometime I'd love to get your opinion as a
recording engineer on that genre, but I don't want to subject everyone
else
to my O.T. interests.

Hi Jon. Classical and jazz music are so closely linked. I know a good many
jazz pianists, all of whom practice JS BACH Preludes and Fuges to improve
their technique:-) Do you know the recordings of Jacques Loussier?

If you want to discuss jazz, why not? Start a thread:-) It could not
possibly
be more OT than a lot of other threads on this group. Anyone who is not
interested in what you have to say always has the option not to read it:-)

Cheers
Iain

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...

"Margaret von B." wrote in message
...
Dean Martin - That's Amore.

Denon all format player Nagra tube amps Avantgarde horns = Heaven.

Dean Martin IS singing in my music room. I can almost touch him. sigh
It is moments like this that only tubes and horns can create...when
everything is just right. Nothing can replicate the dynamics in my
experience...nothing can relax like a concert experience at one's own
house.

Thank you John Atkinson for carrying the torch for us enlightened ones!
:-)

Lined up on the RL trunk:

Jose Carreras - Misa Criolla
Shaggy - Mr. Lover Lover (The Best of)
Chuck Berry - The Chess Box


Cheers,

Margaret


I am just listening to James Taylor, "Gorilla"

"He's got arms like legs
He's got hands on his feet
He's got a nose like a doughnut
And a tendency to over eat

He don't use tools or weapons
He dont eat meat
He likes to stick to the bushes
Tends to avoid the street......."


Does this sound like someone we know?
Iain

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
oups.com...

Iain Churches wrote:
Andre Jute at wrote on 12/15/05 11:16 PM:

Andras Schiff playing the Mozart piano concertos with the Camerata
Academica, Salzburg, the Decca set. Currently on disc 9, nos 26 and
27,
again. I just can't let such fine music disappear back into storage.

Andre is referring to the 13CD Decca set 443 747-2.
Wonderful performances - highly recommended.

Iain

Actually, Iain, now that I go looking for the 'missing' 4 CDs, I notice
my Schiff set is the 9CD Decca set 448 140-2 lacking concertos 1-3, 8,
10. I wos robbed! (Hey, Marie, I'll just remember you gave *my*
complete set to Iain...)

Mine came straight from The Old Firm, and is marked "Review Copy" :-)


Do you know the work of the Polish pianist Andre Tchaikowsky? He died
young but sometime in the early 1970s in a very busy festival where I
was up till the early hours every night as the host of the literary
side, I rose for his 10am (how effing uncivilized can the schedulers
get?) performance every day for a fortnight. A couple of years later I
paid Christopher Hogwood the same respect; a totally different
approach. Not many can get me out of bed before noon...

Andre Tchaikowsky? He of Goldberg Variations fame? Yes indeed!
He was an exceptional talent. In actual fact, I am told that Pjotr
Tchaikvosky had more Polish than Rusian blood, and it is, after all,
a Polish name.

Poland has a very rich musical culture. One of my favourite Polish
composers is Bartholomew Pekeil (b 1670) who was conductor at
Cracow Cathedral. He wrote a wonderful cantata "Audite Mortalis"
and a vocal-instrumental Mass "La Lombardesca". He also wrote
some forty folk dances. Some of his work may be heard on an
excellent CD on Olympia, "Pearls from Poland. 18th Century
Miniatures"

Christopher Hogwood too is one of my great favourites. He was
a Decca artist with whom I had the pleasure of working on many
occasions.

"My Ladye Neville's Booke" (William Byrd) which we recorded
at Finchcock's Manor, Goudhurst, Sussex, UK is well worth a listen
if you enjoy early English musicke.

So much music. So little time:-)

Iain

Iain Churches wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message
oups.com...

Iain Churches wrote:
Andre Jute at wrote on 12/15/05 11:16 PM:

Andras Schiff playing the Mozart piano concertos with the Camerata
Academica, Salzburg, the Decca set. Currently on disc 9, nos 26 and
27,
again. I just can't let such fine music disappear back into storage.

Andre is referring to the 13CD Decca set 443 747-2.
Wonderful performances - highly recommended.

Iain

Actually, Iain, now that I go looking for the 'missing' 4 CDs, I notice
my Schiff set is the 9CD Decca set 448 140-2 lacking concertos 1-3, 8,
10. I wos robbed! (Hey, Marie, I'll just remember you gave *my*
complete set to Iain...)

Mine came straight from The Old Firm, and is marked "Review Copy" :-)

Mine, from the same source either in London or their Dublin office, is
not so marked. (I cannot really remember the name of the PR lady, of
course; I called them all Marie except Celia at Hyperion and Victoria
at that French collection of brands, Harmonia Mundi, who once wailed
that she loved Melvyn Tan but she was a foot taller!) For fear of a
joke turning up later in the posts of the unholy as a "fact", I shall
refrain from the obvious remark about who they trust more not to resell
complimentary discs...

Do you know the work of the Polish pianist Andre Tchaikowsky? He died
young but sometime in the early 1970s in a very busy festival where I
was up till the early hours every night as the host of the literary
side, I rose for his 10am (how effing uncivilized can the schedulers
get?) performance every day for a fortnight. A couple of years later I
paid Christopher Hogwood the same respect; a totally different
approach. Not many can get me out of bed before noon...

....snip...

Poland has a very rich musical culture. One of my favourite Polish
composers is Bartholomew Pekeil (b 1670) who was conductor at
Cracow Cathedral. He wrote a wonderful cantata "Audite Mortalis"
and a vocal-instrumental Mass "La Lombardesca". He also wrote
some forty folk dances. Some of his work may be heard on an
excellent CD on Olympia, "Pearls from Poland. 18th Century
Miniatures"

I am under threat of the divorce courts if I accept one more disc or
one more book because the fabric of our Georgean town house creaks
under the weight of those I already have. But I will look out for
Pekeil who, you will not be surprised to hear, is totally new to me.
(Now someone will dig up a review from thirty years ago and call me a
liar. Isn't the internet wonderful?)

Christopher Hogwood too is one of my great favourites. He was
a Decca artist with whom I had the pleasure of working on many
occasions.

Never bet against coincidence. Last year when I wanted to speak to
Susannah York I found her at Christopher Hogwood's house...

I must say that for someone who isn't an artist himself (in the sense
of creating original work only, total ignorance of an unknown
netherlife of course apologised for in advance), you lead a privileged
life, working with people like Hogwood.

"My Ladye Neville's Booke" (William Byrd) which we recorded
at Finchcock's Manor, Goudhurst, Sussex, UK is well worth a listen
if you enjoy early English musicke.

I do. I listen mainly to various forms of chamber music and vocal
music; rarely the big orchestral things; instead every year I spin the
Liszt transcriptions of the Beethoven Symphonies from Leslie Howard's
big complete Liszt piano works.

I have an order in at Amazon for the other half of the new edition of
the OpenGL Reference (it's not for me, honest -- I read techie porn
only in the lavatory) due to be published in February. I'll see if they
will stick your Byrd recording on the same order to save the carriage.

So much music. So little time:-)

Don't temp me any further.

Iain

Andre Jute