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decent home cd player for under $100?
Home stereo question follows:
I've got a Marantz cd-63 Mk II from circa 1995 which I like a lot. It has always been pretty highly regarded as a quality cd player without breaking the break, but now mine is finally dying. I'm wondering whether to try and get it fixed or just go for a sub $100 DVD player instead. I've heard thru the grapevine that inexpensive modern DVD players sound better than alot of the highter dollar CD players of yesteryear. Is this true? Thanks for any input, Dan Fox |
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In article . com, Daniel Fox wrote: Home stereo question follows: I've got a Marantz cd-63 Mk II from circa 1995 which I like a lot. It has always been pretty highly regarded as a quality cd player without breaking the break, but now mine is finally dying. I'm wondering whether to try and get it fixed or just go for a sub $100 DVD player instead. I've heard thru the grapevine that inexpensive modern DVD players sound better than alot of the highter dollar CD players of yesteryear. Is this true? This is true, but I had the same decision to make when my CD-67SE started failing to read discs. I reached the conclusion that no sub-$100 player will come close to the audio quality of the old gem, and got the laser assembly replaced for about $150. No regrets. Contact Jeff Galin at Electronics Service Labs for a quote. No business connection, just a (repeat) satisfied customer. ELECTRONICS SERVICE LABS 1807 Berlin Turnpike Wethersfield, Connecticut 06109 USA 860-529-3700 www.eslabs.com |
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On Feb 25, 6:35 pm, "Daniel Fox" wrote:
Home stereo question follows: I've got a Marantz cd-63 Mk II from circa 1995 which I like a lot. It has always been pretty highly regarded as a quality cd player without breaking the break, but now mine is finally dying. I'm wondering whether to try and get it fixed or just go for a sub $100 DVD player instead. I've heard thru the grapevine that inexpensive modern DVD players sound better than alot of the highter dollar CD players of yesteryear. Is this true? you don't necessarily want to believe the grapevine in this case. Inexpensive DVD players may very well sound similar to your current CD player but there is no reason to expect that it will sound significantly better. DVD players with no display are inconvenient to use without a TV so you want to spend enough to get a display. If you have a DVD player, why not just try it out? BTW, you might get more interesting answers if you posted this question to rec.audio.high- end. |
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On Feb 25, 7:08 pm, (Mike S.) wrote:
This is true, but I had the same decision to make when my CD-67SE started failing to read discs. I reached the conclusion that no sub-$100 player will come close to the audio quality of the old gem, and got the laser assembly replaced for about $150. No regrets. Are you saying that the original statement (about modern DVD players vs older CD players) is true in general but the Marantz models are an exception? I'm just trying to clarify. Dan |
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On Feb 25, 9:34 pm, "jwvm" wrote:
Inexpensive DVD players may very well sound similar to your current CD player but there is no reason to expect that it will sound significantly better. Hmmm. I'm not looking for an upgrade - just want to maintain the same level of fidelity I have now for the least amount of money. DVD players with no display are inconvenient to use without a TV so you want to spend enough to get a display. Thats important. I'd be annoyed without a display. If you have a DVD player, why not just try it out? Dont have a TV (and hence a DVD player). By choice. BTW, you might get more interesting answers if you posted this question to rec.audio.high- end. Will do, thanks. Dan |
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On 25 Feb 2007 19:06:29 -0800, "Daniel Fox" wrote:
BTW, you might get more interesting answers if you posted this question to rec.audio.high- end. Will do, thanks. I think he was being humorous :-) |
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:32:30 +0000, Laurence Payne
lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote: On 25 Feb 2007 19:06:29 -0800, "Daniel Fox" wrote: BTW, you might get more interesting answers if you posted this question to rec.audio.high- end. Will do, thanks. I think he was being humorous :-) You think? |
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:19:47 -0800, Julian
wrote: BTW, you might get more interesting answers if you posted this question to rec.audio.high- end. Will do, thanks. I think he was being humorous :-) You think? That, or merely mischievous :-) You'll get no sense out of the audiophools regarding a $100 player. |
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"Daniel Fox" wrote in message
ups.com Home stereo question follows: I've got a Marantz cd-63 Mk II from circa 1995 which I like a lot. It has always been pretty highly regarded as a quality cd player without breaking the break, but now mine is finally dying. I'm wondering whether to try and get it fixed or just go for a sub $100 DVD player instead. I've heard thru the grapevine that inexpensive modern DVD players sound better than alot of the highter dollar CD players of yesteryear. Is this true? AFAIK the Marantz CD-63 was a fine player. I did some technical tests on a CD67 some years back and obtained these results: http://www.pcavtech.com/play-rec/cd67se/index.htm I did some tests on a good mid-fi DVD player of the day and obtained the following, which I would performed comparably: http://www.pcavtech.com/play-rec/dv525/index.htm The most obvious downside that I noticed at that time was the fact that the DV525 did not track CDRs quite as well (although it did track almost all of the ones I tested it with), and that it took longer to get into play mode after loading a disc. This loading time disadvantage seems to persist to this day. It is understandable given that the drive has a lot of alternatives to test. I did some casual technical tests on a sub-$100 and then a sub-$50 DVD player a couple of years back and found similar results. The 2 players I tested unfortunately turned out to have relatively short lives. I took one of them apart and found that its audio section was based on some Crystal Semiconductor (a highly-regarded manufacturer of converter chips) 24/192 DAC chips, and that the player easily outperformed the specs on the chips. If this all seems a little risky, you might want to pick up one of the low cost Universal players that play SACD, DVD-A, CD's, etc. They seem to be in your price range. Even sub-$40 portable CD players have improved their performance. It used to be that their shock-resistance circuits severely degraded their audio perforamance. There is still some degradation, but they aren't nearly as bad as they were. |
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On Feb 26, 8:29 am, Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:19:47 -0800, Julian snip That, or merely mischievous :-) You'll get no sense out of the audiophools regarding a $100 player. Me mischievous? Why on earth would you think that? Actually, as Arny points out below, there are some low-cost universal machines that might be good choices for the OP. Surprisingly, some of them have received praise on RAHE. The OP could then use the money he saves on the player and invest in $1000 power cords, speaker cable, and interconnects needed to achieve audiophile nirvana. :-) |
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Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote:
You'll get no sense out of the audiophools regarding a $100 player. They'll tell you to buy a used Magnavox/Philips CDB650. It's good advice. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Feb 26, 9:18 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
player a couple of years back and found similar results. The 2 players I tested unfortunately turned out to have relatively short lives. No point in getting a temporary replacement... If this all seems a little risky, you might want to pick up one of the low cost Universal players that play SACD, DVD-A, CD's, etc. They seem to be in your price range. Can you think of a suitable example I might look into? Thanks, Dan |
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On Feb 26, 8:29 am, Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
wrote: You'll get no sense out of the audiophools regarding a $100 player. Right. So far they aren't interested in answering. Maybe i'll up the ante by bringing up some stereo image enhancing moon rocks (which i'll put on top of a $50 DVD player.) Dan |
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"Daniel Fox" wrote in message
oups.com On Feb 26, 9:18 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote: player a couple of years back and found similar results. The 2 players I tested unfortunately turned out to have relatively short lives. No point in getting a temporary replacement... If this all seems a little risky, you might want to pick up one of the low cost Universal players that play SACD, DVD-A, CD's, etc. They seem to be in your price range. Can you think of a suitable example I might look into? Check out the current Pioneer offering. I have one of their earlier inexpensive universal players and it seems just fine. http://www.hometheatermag.com/discplayers/1203pioneer/ I think the current model is DV-588 http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers....&Search=Search Here's annother review of some other items: http://hometheater.about.com/cs/dvdl...pdvdasacda.htm IMO it does not make a lot of sense to blow the big bucks on a player that does not support both DVD-HD and Blu Ray. |
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IMO it does not make a lot of sense to blow the big bucks
on a player that does not support both DVD-HD and Blu Ray. At the moment, there's only one -- a $1200 LG. I, for one, am waiting. |
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"William Sommerwerck" wrote in
message IMO it does not make a lot of sense to blow the big bucks on a player that does not support both DVD-HD and Blu Ray. At the moment, there's only one -- a $1200 LG. I, for one, am waiting. Just know that when these things go mainstream they'll be a fraction of the price. |
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On Feb 26, 11:24 am, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
Check out the current Pioneer offering. I have one of their earlier inexpensive universal players and it seems just fine. http://www.hometheatermag.com/discplayers/1203pioneer/ I think the current model is DV-588 http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers....&Search=Search The DV-563 can be had on ebay for $50-$80 refurbished. The DV-588 goes for $120 new. Unless anyone thinks the Marantz CD-63 Mk II would still sound better (i'm ONLY interested in audio) these seem like a good bet. I like the idea of being able to play SACD and DVD-A too, though I wonder how much of an audible difference there will be, especially since I only listen in stereo. Thanks for the info Arny. Dan |
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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
... Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote: You'll get no sense out of the audiophools regarding a $100 player. They'll tell you to buy a used Magnavox/Philips CDB650. It's good advice. Yes, but will anyone fix the laser when it dies? Mine has. Peace, Paul |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
... Even sub-$40 portable CD players have improved their performance. It used to be that their shock-resistance circuits severely degraded their audio perforamance. There is still some degradation, but they aren't nearly as bad as they were. While we're here, can you recommend one of those? Mine just got smashed (along with the back end of my car) by a nitwit in an F250. Peace, Paul |
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Paul Stamler wrote:
"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote: You'll get no sense out of the audiophools regarding a $100 player. They'll tell you to buy a used Magnavox/Philips CDB650. It's good advice. Yes, but will anyone fix the laser when it dies? Mine has. It uses the same model laser that most of the third generation players from Philips used. Parts Express and MCM Electronics may even still stock them. Replacing the head is much easier than it was with the first and second generation players. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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in case anyone's interested - I ended up buying a factory
reconditioned Pioneer DV-588A for $80. I got the Marantz working just long enough to do some comparisons and heard no significant difference work speaking of. This is thru a pair of very accurate NEAR tower speakers in a semi dead listening environment. The Marantz ended up under my bed. I also just picked up a "living stereo" Bartok SACD reissue and Miles Davis "Miles Smiles" on SACD. Nice to be able to listen to this format now. Thanks all for the input. Dan |
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