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Microsoft Sound Mapper Missing???
So here I am in a hotel room with my new netbook computer, and I can't
get any audio out of the speakers or headphone jack. Curiously, Microsoft Sound Mapper is no longer listed as an audio device in the Windows (XP) Sounds setup or as an audio device in Audacity or Sound Forge that I have installed. There's signs of life - the meters move but nothing comes out the speakers or headphone jack. I can select Realtek (the built-in sounc card) as the audio device, and that used to work fine, but it doesn't now. I don't have any other audio devices (like a USB audio I/O) that I can plug in to try. Could I have lost the Realtek/Microsoft driver? |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
So here I am in a hotel room with my new netbook computer, and I can't get any audio out of the speakers or headphone jack. Curiously, Microsoft Sound Mapper is no longer listed as an audio device in the Windows (XP) Sounds setup or as an audio device in Audacity or Sound Forge that I have installed. There's signs of life - the meters move but nothing comes out the speakers or headphone jack. I can select Realtek (the built-in sounc card) as the audio device, and that used to work fine, but it doesn't now. I don't have any other audio devices (like a USB audio I/O) that I can plug in to try. Could I have lost the Realtek/Microsoft driver? I'd go to Control Panel and look for you, but my arms aren't that long. There should be a CAB file on disk, - if not, download it. Let us just hope it is not an infant mortality problem. -- Les Cargill |
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Microsoft Sound Mapper Missing???
Mike Rivers wrote:
So here I am in a hotel room with my new netbook computer, and I can't get any audio out of the speakers or headphone jack. Curiously, Microsoft Sound Mapper is no longer listed as an audio device in the Windows (XP) Sounds setup or as an audio device in Audacity or Sound Forge that I have installed. There's signs of life - the meters move but nothing comes out the speakers or headphone jack. I can select Realtek (the built-in sounc card) as the audio device, and that used to work fine, but it doesn't now. I don't have any other audio devices (like a USB audio I/O) that I can plug in to try. Could I have lost the Realtek/Microsoft driver? What devices show if you go to Settings | Control Panel| Sounds and Audio Devices | Audio or | Hardware. Maybe it has different descriptions... geoff |
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On 4/6/2010 8:16 PM, Soundhaspriority wrote:
Perhaps I might ask, are you sure Sound Mapper was listed in the XP panel? Well, I thought so, but maybe not. I don't have another computer to compare it to out here. But I looked there because Sound Mapper used to show up as a choice in Sound Forge and when it didn't, I went looking in the likely place. However, I uninstalled the Realtek audio using the Device Manager, then rebooted and let it find the new hardware. After that, WinAmp worked, Sound Forge worked, and Microsoft Sound Mapper shows up as a choice in Sound Forge but not in the Control Panel Sounds window. So maybe it's never there. Just another computer mystery. |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
On 4/6/2010 8:16 PM, Soundhaspriority wrote: Perhaps I might ask, are you sure Sound Mapper was listed in the XP panel? Well, I thought so, but maybe not. I don't have another computer to compare it to out here. But I looked there because Sound Mapper used to show up as a choice in Sound Forge and when it didn't, I went looking in the likely place. However, I uninstalled the Realtek audio using the Device Manager, then rebooted and let it find the new hardware. After that, WinAmp worked, Sound Forge worked, and Microsoft Sound Mapper shows up as a choice in Sound Forge but not in the Control Panel Sounds window. So maybe it's never there. Just another computer mystery. Naa - the Control Panel window Audio device(s) is ARE what other apps may describe as MS Sound Mapper. The mapper in turn maps to the assigned device(s). The alternative (as in SF) is to map to the device directly, rather than via the MS Mapper... geoff geoff |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
However, I uninstalled the Realtek audio using the Device Manager, then rebooted and let it find the new hardware. After that, WinAmp worked, Sound Forge worked, and Microsoft Sound Mapper shows up as a choice in Sound Forge but not in the Control Panel Sounds window. So maybe it's never there. Just another computer mystery. IME, if the device driver for the one and only device on the PC stops operating, then the mapper goes away with it. The mystery is why the driver went away, and why it had to be reinstalled to come back. If the hardware had a temporary glitch, the driver would usually reinstall it during the next boot. IME the most likely cause of audio driver weirdness is Microsoft's Windows Update. It gets confused by some Realtek and CMI audio interfaces and has been known to download and attempt to download and install the wrong driver. That breaks the previous driver. However, I haven't seen that happen for a year or more. |
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On 4/7/2010 12:07 AM, Soundhaspriority wrote:
If this turns out to be a recurring problem, you might try uninstalling without using the driver packag uninstall as follows: In System--Hardware--Device Manager tab-Sound, video, and game controllers--Realtek, click uninstall, and reboot. The system will find the hardware again. That's exactly what I did. As to what provoked it, did you attempt to have WinAmp and Sound Forge active at the same time? This can cause resource lock problems. I might have done that in my thrashing around, but the first symptom was that WinAmp (the only program open at the time) didn't have audio output even though it appeared that it was playing. I'm thinking that something I did over the weekend may have caused a problem. I picked up a Plextor USB CD-RW drive at a hamfest for $2 so I could have a CD to use with the netbook. Plextor drives of that period (this one is stamped 2003 on its label) had firmware that supported a utility that they supplied with the dirive that, among other things, did some basic quality checks on a CD-R. I put out a call for a copy of the PlexTools installer (it's no longer on the Plextor web site, having been replaced by a new version that supports their DVD drives, and no longer does the QC tests) and received a few versions of different ages. While each version recognized the drive, none supported the quality tests. I suspect that this model simply didn't have the firmware to support it. I've been a good boy, setting a Windows restore point before installing each version, and I've been using Revo Uninstaller to remove programs since it looks through the registry for traces that the program's own uninstall misses. Revo sets a restore point before it goes to work. But the last time around, I forgot to set a restore before installing the program, and I tripped up running Revo, hitting the "restart the computer now" button by mistake after the Plextor uninstaller ran, before Revo had a chance to go through the registry. When I tried to restore to the point before uninstalling PlexTools, Windows said it couldn't restore to that point. Anyway, I checked things out and it seemed that I still had audio, but maybe I didn't check everything. Hopefully this won't be a recurring problem. It hasn't been, net. |
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Microsoft Sound Mapper Missing???
On 4/7/2010 8:39 AM, Arny Krueger wrote:
IME the most likely cause of audio driver weirdness is Microsoft's Windows Update. It gets confused by some Realtek and CMI audio interfaces and has been known to download and attempt to download and install the wrong driver. That breaks the previous driver. However, I haven't seen that happen for a year or more. Since this computer is off more than it's on, I have automatic updates turned off (and even on computers where it's turned on, I always look first before installing updates) and it hasn't had an update in a few weeks. |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
On 4/7/2010 8:39 AM, Arny Krueger wrote: IME the most likely cause of audio driver weirdness is Microsoft's Windows Update. It gets confused by some Realtek and CMI audio interfaces and has been known to download and attempt to download and install the wrong driver. That breaks the previous driver. However, I haven't seen that happen for a year or more. Since this computer is off more than it's on, I have automatic updates turned off (and even on computers where it's turned on, I always look first before installing updates) and it hasn't had an update in a few weeks. The second most likely way that a driver gets broken is a little more scary. Permanent, unrecovered hard drive error. How full is the hard drive? How often defragged? |
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On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:39:35 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: IME the most likely cause of audio driver weirdness is Microsoft's Windows Update. It gets confused by some Realtek and CMI audio interfaces and has been known to download and attempt to download and install the wrong driver. That breaks the previous driver. However, I haven't seen that happen for a year or more. It's often worth searching out an older driver. The "improvement" in a newer version is often to disable the internal WaveOut Mix (or whatever they call it) recording source, which is very useful for direct recording from e.g. Spotify or an online radio station. |
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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message
news On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:39:35 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: IME the most likely cause of audio driver weirdness is Microsoft's Windows Update. It gets confused by some Realtek and CMI audio interfaces and has been known to download and attempt to download and install the wrong driver. That breaks the previous driver. However, I haven't seen that happen for a year or more. It's often worth searching out an older driver. The "improvement" in a newer version is often to disable the internal WaveOut Mix (or whatever they call it) recording source, which is very useful for direct recording from e.g. Spotify or an online radio station. Agreed. I suspect removal of this feature was stimulated by IP concerns. |
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On 4/7/2010 9:44 AM, Arny Krueger wrote:
The second most likely way that a driver gets broken is a little more scary. Permanent, unrecovered hard drive error. How full is the hard drive? How often defragged? Not much chance of that. It's 160 GB with 121 GB free. I was defragging fairly often when I was cleaning off the junk that came with the computer so it's been defragged several times in the past month. |
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Microsoft Sound Mapper Missing???
On Apr 6, 7:46*pm, Mike Rivers (that's me)
wrote: So here I am in a hotel room with my new netbook computer, and I can't get any audio out of the speakers or headphone jack. Curiously, Microsoft Sound Mapper is no longer listed as an audio device in the Windows (XP) Sounds setup or as an audio device in Audacity or Sound Forge that I have installed. There's signs of life - the meters move but nothing comes out the speakers or headphone jack. I didn't figure out what was happening, but I discovered what was causing the problem. I had my MP3 player plugged into a USB port to charge it when the audio output disappeared. When I rebooted after unplugging it, the audio returned. I plugged it in, and the audio went away (and stayed away even after unplugging it) until I rebooted again. I've had the same player plugged into my other computers at home and haven't had this problem, though I don't know if it affects the internal sound card since I don't use it on the other computers. Just another quirk. |
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On Wednesday, 7 April 2010 00:46:37 UTC+1, Mike Rivers wrote:
So here I am in a hotel room with my new netbook computer, and I can't get any audio out of the speakers or headphone jack. Curiously, Microsoft Sound Mapper is no longer listed as an audio device in the Windows (XP) Sounds setup or as an audio device in Audacity or Sound Forge that I have installed. There's signs of life - the meters move but nothing comes out the speakers or headphone jack. I can select Realtek (the built-in sounc card) as the audio device, and that used to work fine, but it doesn't now. I don't have any other audio devices (like a USB audio I/O) that I can plug in to try. Could I have lost the Realtek/Microsoft driver? |
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wrote in message ... On Wednesday, 7 April 2010 00:46:37 UTC+1, Mike Rivers wrote: So here I am in a hotel room with my new netbook computer, and I can't get any audio out of the speakers or headphone jack. Curiously, Microsoft Sound Mapper is no longer listed as an audio device in the Windows (XP) Sounds setup or as an audio device in Audacity or Sound Forge that I have installed. There's signs of life - the meters move but nothing comes out the speakers or headphone jack. I can select Realtek (the built-in sounc card) as the audio device, and that used to work fine, but it doesn't now. I don't have any other audio devices (like a USB audio I/O) that I can plug in to try. Could I have lost the Realtek/Microsoft driver? At the risk of being presumptuous, two avenues: Rt Click My Computer, Manage, Device Manager - Sound, Video and Game Controllers - check for drivers missing or update as needed Start, Control Panel, Sounds and Audio Devices - all of the controls for your sound system - check for something muted by chance Gary Eickmeier |
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On 4/18/2014 1:28 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
At the risk of being presumptuous Do you realize that the post (of mine) that you responded to the reply to was just over four years old. I don't even remember what I did to get it working again. but it works now, and it didn't take me four years to figure out. -- For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message ... On 4/18/2014 1:28 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote: At the risk of being presumptuous Do you realize that the post (of mine) that you responded to the reply to was just over four years old. I don't even remember what I did to get it working again. but it works now, and it didn't take me four years to figure out. Well then, let's switch to the slowness of your Email server... Gary |
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Gary Eickmeier wrote:
"Mike Rivers" wrote in message ... On 4/18/2014 1:28 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote: At the risk of being presumptuous Do you realize that the post (of mine) that you responded to the reply to was just over four years old. I don't even remember what I did to get it working again. but it works now, and it didn't take me four years to figure out. Well then, let's switch to the slowness of your Email server... email server? Gary Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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"Peter Larsen" wrote in message eb.com... Gary Eickmeier wrote: "Mike Rivers" wrote in message ... On 4/18/2014 1:28 AM, Gary Eickmeier wrote: At the risk of being presumptuous Do you realize that the post (of mine) that you responded to the reply to was just over four years old. I don't even remember what I did to get it working again. but it works now, and it didn't take me four years to figure out. Well then, let's switch to the slowness of your Email server... email server? Er...ah... News server? ISP? Gary |
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On 4/18/2014 6:07 PM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:
Er...ah... News server? ISP? Did you guys see my ORIGINAL message pop up here recently? I didn't. I only saw a reply to it. Google keeps stuff forever, so it might have just caught the eye of who decided to be helpful. It's not unusual for someone who isn't a regular here to reply to an old message, particularly when he's coming from Google Groups (which he was). It's one of the reasons why some people look down on users who read this newsgroup as a Google group. I sometimes do, myself, when the news host that I use, Eternal September, gets constipated. -- For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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On 4/18/2014 6:34 PM, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 4/18/2014 6:07 PM, Gary Eickmeier wrote: Er...ah... News server? ISP? Did you guys see my ORIGINAL message pop up here recently? I didn't. I only saw a reply to it. Google keeps stuff forever, so it might have just caught the eye of who decided to be helpful. It's not unusual for someone who isn't a regular here to reply to an old message, particularly when he's coming from Google Groups (which he was). It's one of the reasons why some people look down on users who read this newsgroup as a Google group. I sometimes do, myself, when the news host that I use, Eternal September, gets constipated. For what it's worth, I have a few warning flags/filters set on my browser for google groups, g-mail, and cross posting. Seems most of the worthless or irritating stuff comes from those categories. Posts with all three flags usually aren't worth opening let alone replying to. Seems to help sort things out a bit. [YMMV] One can get quite creative with message filters in Thunderbird. == Later... Ron Capik -- |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message ... Did you guys see my ORIGINAL message pop up here recently? I didn't. I only saw a reply to it. Google keeps stuff forever, so it might have just caught the eye of who decided to be helpful. It's not unusual for someone who isn't a regular here to reply to an old message, particularly when he's coming from Google Groups (which he was). It's one of the reasons why some people look down on users who read this newsgroup as a Google group. I sometimes do, myself, when the news host that I use, Eternal September, gets constipated. Well, the really odd thing is that habibi's OP post did not have any answer in it, just the question, so I thought it was from him from the 16th. This is really strange. I have seen this problem in other groups, where someone posts a question with the same title as a 5 year old post had, and the service places it underneath the original thread rather than as a new one. This has caught a lot of people off guard. But I haven't seen it in this group before. Gary |
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Gary Eickmeier wrote:
Well, the really odd thing is that habibi's OP post did not have any answer in it, just the question, so I thought it was from him from the 16th. This is really strange. Not all interfaces to usenet makes posting date the most obvious, you're not the first to end up following up to an old post, it can even be seen as relevant if it has no follow-ups or solutions. Gary Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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