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Recording the double strung harp
Good day. I have a harpist coming in next week. The instrument is the double strung harp, there are two rows of strings one on each side of the instrument. My thought is to have the harpist in an ambient room and use a set of mics a few feet away in an ORTF configuration perhaps with a spot mic placed nearer to the instrument. Anyone have any experience with this instrument who could suggest the best mic technique? All ideas are welcome. Thanks!
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You don't have to be able to play the harp to test the miking.
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wrote: Good day. I have a harpist coming in next week. The instrument is the doubl= e strung harp, there are two rows of strings one on each side of the instru= ment. My thought is to have the harpist in an ambient room and use a set of= mics a few feet away in an ORTF configuration perhaps with a spot mic plac= ed nearer to the instrument. Anyone have any experience with this instrumen= t who could suggest the best mic technique? All ideas are welcome. Thanks! That would be a good start. It's a good bit louder than a concert harp, but it's still not a very quiet instrument and if you pull back in a dry room you are going to need a very quiet room and recording chain. On the other hand, if you go in too close you'll hear fingering noises and breathing. Go for something in the middle. The instrument itself has a very long decay so you can get away with a wide range of room sound from pretty dry to pretty live. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Good day. I have a harpist coming in next week. The instrument is the double strung harp, there are two rows of strings one on each side of the instrument. My thought is to have the harpist in an ambient room and use a set of mics a few feet away in an ORTF configuration perhaps with a spot mic placed nearer to the instrument. Anyone have any experience with this instrument who could suggest the best mic technique? All ideas are welcome. Thanks! One BBC training manual suggests putting the mic behind the player's head if the pickup of mechanical noises is causing a problem. Possibly this works in mono when the harp is part of an ensemble, but for solo stereo I would have thought it was the mic position of last resort. -- ~ Adrian Tuddenham ~ (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply) www.poppyrecords.co.uk |
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Thanks for all the tips! I will meet with the harpist Monday to discuss the details of the recording which is to take place sometime this summer. Much appreciated!
Doug Lins |
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"Peter Larsen" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
k... you do not describe your room. Omni's would however be my choice because of their fuller low range tone just as they are for concert grand. The standard single row harps tend to project very well, ie. sounds close to a semi-distant mic than they are. My first try would be a close omni pair, say 1 foot apart and parallel in front of the player and another omni pair further away, with most of the sound from the "further away" pair. Often I see recordings where they try do close micing of the harp's string. Strings sound really very badly. "Surprise - Sound doesn't come from the strings": http://www.sengpielaudio.com/Surpris...TheStrings.pdf Cheere ebs |
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"Eberhard Sengpiel" writes:
"Peter Larsen" schrieb im Newsbeitrag . dk... you do not describe your room. Omni's would however be my choice because of their fuller low range tone just as they are for concert grand. The standard single row harps tend to project very well, ie. sounds close to a semi-distant mic than they are. My first try would be a close omni pair, say 1 foot apart and parallel in front of the player and another omni pair further away, with most of the sound from the "further away" pair. Often I see recordings where they try do close micing of the harp's string. Strings sound really very badly. "Surprise - Sound doesn't come from the strings": http://www.sengpielaudio.com/Surpris...TheStrings.pdf This is a good guide; and the info is quite correct. My small quibble is with the nixing of string mic'ing of the piano and using the sound holes. I mic over the strings in a piano, but only because there's a lovely resonator surface below them. That resonator is so relatively loud that typically you can ignore any direct "sound" from the strings. The holes, on the other hand, can have some weird phasing issues close up and I try to avoid them. YMMV. Frank Mobile Audio -- |
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Eberhard Sengpiel wrote:
"Peter Larsen" schrieb im Newsbeitrag k... you do not describe your room. Omni's would however be my choice because of their fuller low range tone just as they are for concert grand. The standard single row harps tend to project very well, ie. sounds close to a semi-distant mic than they are. My first try would be a close omni pair, say 1 foot apart and parallel in front of the player and another omni pair further away, with most of the sound from the "further away" pair. Often I see recordings where they try do close micing of the harp's string. Strings sound really very badly. Ah yes, close is perhaps 4 feet from the harp. "Surprise - Sound doesn't come from the strings": http://www.sengpielaudio.com/Surpris...TheStrings.pdf The order of magnitude of the size of the instrument away from it is often a good first guess. Cheere ebs Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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