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Audio snake recommendation needed
I need to run an audio snake to and from a 24 track 2" machine, in and
out of Pro Tools. 25 feet long with XLR connectors on both ends. Any recommendations for which company to use? Whirlwind, Rapco? Has anyone had experience with Altona snakes? They seem well made and reasonably priced. I cannot afford Monster cable. Thanks for any assistance, Greg Frey |
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Audio snake recommendation needed
gregfrey wrote:
I need to run an audio snake to and from a 24 track 2" machine, in and out of Pro Tools. 25 feet long with XLR connectors on both ends. Any recommendations for which company to use? Whirlwind, Rapco? Has anyone had experience with Altona snakes? They seem well made and reasonably priced. I cannot afford Monster cable. Is this for permanent in-wall installation, or in a studio where it's never going to be moved, or for a field application? Whirlwind, Rapco, and Gepco all do fine work, and Markertek will make you a snake from Canare snake cable for a reasonable price too. The problem is that the cable you want to select depends on the kind of handling that it's going to take. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Mar 8, 1:40 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
gregfrey wrote: I need to run an audio snake to and from a 24 track 2" machine, in and out of Pro Tools. 25 feet long with XLR connectors on both ends. Any recommendations for which company to use? Whirlwind, Rapco? Has anyone had experience with Altona snakes? They seem well made and reasonably priced. I cannot afford Monster cable. Is this for permanent in-wall installation, or in a studio where it's never going to be moved, or for a field application? Whirlwind, Rapco, and Gepco all do fine work, and Markertek will make you a snake from Canare snake cable for a reasonable price too. The problem is that the cable you want to select depends on the kind of handling that it's going to take. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Scott Thanks for the reply. It's not for an in wall installation. It's for a temporary farmhouse studio setup. The snake won't be moved while we're working but it will need to be wrapped up in about 6 months and stored away until the next time we decide to do some recordings. I'll check into the pricing on your suggestions. The Markertek idea sounds appealing. best Greg |
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gregfrey wrote:
Thanks for the reply. It's not for an in wall installation. It's for a temporary farmhouse studio setup. The snake won't be moved while we're working but it will need to be wrapped up in about 6 months and stored away until the next time we decide to do some recordings. Skip the foil shield and get a cable with all-braid shields. You really don't need an overall shield either for that application, so if you can save some money by using a snake without one, go ahead. I don't have a Gepco catalogue here, but what I am thinking would be something like Belden 1902A or equivalent. The shield won't fail when you're wrapping and unwrapping it. And you probably don't want a stage box either, just pigtails. I'll check into the pricing on your suggestions. The Markertek idea sounds appealing. Markertek and Gepco both do custom cables for very reasonable prices. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Mar 8, 2:03 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
gregfrey wrote: Thanks for the reply. It's not for an in wall installation. It's for a temporary farmhouse studio setup. The snake won't be moved while we're working but it will need to be wrapped up in about 6 months and stored away until the next time we decide to do some recordings. Skip the foil shield and get a cable with all-braid shields. You really don't need an overall shield either for that application, so if you can save some money by using a snake without one, go ahead. I don't have a Gepco catalogue here, but what I am thinking would be something like Belden 1902A or equivalent. The shield won't fail when you're wrapping and unwrapping it. And you probably don't want a stage box either, just pigtails. I'll check into the pricing on your suggestions. The Markertek idea sounds appealing. Markertek and Gepco both do custom cables for very reasonable prices. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Thanks! Do you have a recommendation for the connectors? Neutrik? Switchcraft? Are they all basically equal in quality? best Greg |
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gregfrey wrote:
Thanks! Do you have a recommendation for the connectors? Neutrik? Switchcraft? Are they all basically equal in quality? If you get Neutrik, Switchcraft, or Amphenols, you'll be happy. Which of those three are the best is a religious debate. The Whirlwind house brand is fine too. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Mar 8, 2:39 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
gregfrey wrote: Thanks! Do you have a recommendation for the connectors? Neutrik? Switchcraft? Are they all basically equal in quality? If you get Neutrik, Switchcraft, or Amphenols, you'll be happy. Which of those three are the best is a religious debate. The Whirlwind house brand is fine too. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Thanks Greg |
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gregfrey wrote:
On Mar 8, 2:39 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote: gregfrey wrote: Thanks! Do you have a recommendation for the connectors? Neutrik? Switchcraft? Are they all basically equal in quality? If you get Neutrik, Switchcraft, or Amphenols, you'll be happy. Which of those three are the best is a religious debate. The Whirlwind house brand is fine too. The biggest difference you're going to see among different suppliers/cable stock/connectors is durability. You are in what I'd call a 'light duty' situation, so almost anything should be fine as long as you stay away from the really cheapo off-brand stuff. //Walt |
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"gregfrey" wrote:
Thanks! Do you have a recommendation for the connectors? Neutrik? Switchcraft? Are they all basically equal in quality? best Greg Switchcraft connectors are fine, I don't think they make the gold ones any longer. Neutrik has more than one line of XLR, some are more roadworthy at greater cost. Gold flashed contacts are nice but not always necessary. I suggest you avoid the "displacement" types, solder avoids "atmospheric incursion" that eventually might change the connections. -- ~ Roy "If you notice the sound, it's wrong!" |
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On Mar 8, 3:39 pm, Roy W. Rising wrote:
"gregfrey" wrote: Thanks! Do you have a recommendation for the connectors? Neutrik? Switchcraft? Are they all basically equal in quality? best Greg Switchcraft connectors are fine, I don't think they make the gold ones any longer. Neutrik has more than one line of XLR, some are more roadworthy at greater cost. Gold flashed contacts are nice but not always necessary. I suggest you avoid the "displacement" types, solder avoids "atmospheric incursion" that eventually might change the connections. -- ~ Roy "If you notice the sound, it's wrong!" Argg, help! The producer can't wait the two weeks for a custom snake to be made. I need to purchase something off the shelf today. I refuse to buy Hosa. Since I'm going 24 track to 24 track, I will need to purchase 6, 8 channel snakes. Here are links to two different suppliers I've found: http://store.haveinc.com/Ebus30/Part...cturer=Flexygy http://www.lenexpo-electronics.com/8...E-p-16444.html The Haveninc link I found through the Digidesign site. Their cables have Neutrik connectors but are only 24 gauge. The Lenexpo stuff is made in China (I called them yesterday) and their wire is 18 gauge with no-name connectors. Any recommendations or other ideas? best Greg |
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gregfrey wrote:
Argg, help! The producer can't wait the two weeks for a custom snake to be made. I need to purchase something off the shelf today. I refuse to buy Hosa. Since I'm going 24 track to 24 track, I will need to purchase 6, 8 channel snakes. Here are links to two different suppliers I've found: http://store.haveinc.com/Ebus30/Part...cturer=Flexygy http://www.lenexpo-electronics.com/8...E-p-16444.html The Haveninc link I found through the Digidesign site. Their cables have Neutrik connectors but are only 24 gauge. The Lenexpo stuff is made in China (I called them yesterday) and their wire is 18 gauge with no-name connectors. Why is the gauge of the conductors important to you? This isn't speaker wire or power cables. Lot's of high quality snakes out there with 24 gauge conductors. Best to stick with name brand connectors. Any recommendations or other ideas? Call Proco? Full Compass? |
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gregfrey wrote:
Argg, help! The producer can't wait the two weeks for a custom snake to be made. I need to purchase something off the shelf today. I refuse to buy Hosa. Since I'm going 24 track to 24 track, I will need to purchase 6, 8 channel snakes. Here are links to two different suppliers I've found: Two weeks? Gepco usually ships within a day or two. 800-966-0069. Make sure to specify you just want XLR pigtails on each end and no stage box, because it makes it faster to build. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Mar 9, 10:24 am, "gregfrey" wrote:
Argg, help! The producer can't wait the two weeks for a custom snake to be made. I need to purchase something off the shelf today. I refuse to buy Hosa. There's no reason not to buy Hosa. They work fine. 20 years ago they had a tendency to fail but they have their act together. Internet rumors die hard. The Haveninc link I found through the Digidesign site. Their cables have Neutrik connectors but are only 24 gauge. The Lenexpo stuff is made in China (I called them yesterday) and their wire is 18 gauge with no-name connectors. There's nothing wrong with 24 gauge wire unless you're going to be bashing it around. Get the ones with the Neutrik connectors. They have a better chance of fitting whatever you're connecting them to. But if you're in such a rush to get these cables, how sure are you that everything else is going to work? |
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On Mar 9, 12:07 pm, "Mike Rivers" wrote:
On Mar 9, 10:24 am, "gregfrey" wrote: Argg, help! The producer can't wait the two weeks for a custom snake to be made. I need to purchase something off the shelf today. I refuse to buy Hosa. There's no reason not to buy Hosa. They work fine. 20 years ago they had a tendency to fail but they have their act together. Internet rumors die hard. The Haveninc link I found through the Digidesign site. Their cables have Neutrik connectors but are only 24 gauge. The Lenexpo stuff is made in China (I called them yesterday) and their wire is 18 gauge with no-name connectors. There's nothing wrong with 24 gauge wire unless you're going to be bashing it around. Get the ones with the Neutrik connectors. They have a better chance of fitting whatever you're connecting them to. But if you're in such a rush to get these cables, how sure are you that everything else is going to work? Thanks everyone. I've ordered the snakes form Gepco. They were great to deal with. Best Greg |
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