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Dear group,

I'm writing my pre-diploma and I like to have a chart for the bext
chunk like on this page
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/CCRMA/Cour...ts/WaveFormat/

I know that the bext chunk has a size of 752 bytes but i've failed to
break it down into the different fields.
Is it right if I say the description field has a size of 256 bytes?
I would realy appreciate any of your help.
Thanx
Johannes
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jojohamps wrote:

I know that the bext chunk has a size of 752 bytes but i've failed to
break it down into the different fields.


I'm not sure if this will help, but you can check out
http://www.cartchunk.com/applicat.htm
It's a Windows application that lets you examine the bext chunk (as well
as others). If you have some sample files, you can see just what's in them.

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On Dec 28, 2:26*am, Mike Rivers wrote:
jojohamps wrote:
I know that the bext chunk has a size of 752 bytes but i've failed to
break it down into the different fields.


I'm not sure if this will help, but you can check outhttp://www.cartchunk..com/applicat.htm
It's a Windows application that lets you examine the bext chunk (as well
as others). If you have some sample files, you can see just what's in them.

--
If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach
me he
double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo -- I'm really Mike Rivers
)


Thank you, but I need a description like that form byte 0-3 is the
chunkID from byte 4-7 chunk size and 8-304 there is the description
field and so on.....i couldn't find such things in the web.
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 02:07:55 -0800 (PST), in 'rec.audio.pro',
in article bext chunk,
jojohamps wrote:

On Dec 28, 2:26*am, Mike Rivers wrote:
jojohamps wrote:
I know that the bext chunk has a size of 752 bytes but i've failed to
break it down into the different fields.


I'm not sure if this will help, but you can check outhttp://www.cartchunk.com/applicat.htm
It's a Windows application that lets you examine the bext chunk (as well
as others). If you have some sample files, you can see just what's in them.

--
If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach
me he
double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo -- I'm really Mike Rivers
)


Thank you, but I need a description like that form byte 0-3 is the
chunkID from byte 4-7 chunk size and 8-304 there is the description
field and so on.....i couldn't find such things in the web.



http://tech.ebu.ch/webdav/site/tech/...h/tech3285.pdf

http://tech.ebu.ch/webdav/site/tech/shared/r/r098.pdf

http://tech.ebu.ch/webdav/site/tech/shared/r/r085.pdf

http://tech.ebu.ch/webdav/site/tech/...h/tech3306.pdf

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(also covers AVCHD and XDCAM EX).
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On Dec 28, 2:30*pm, Frank wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 02:07:55 -0800 (PST), in 'rec.audio.pro',
in article bext chunk,



jojohamps wrote:
On Dec 28, 2:26*am, Mike Rivers wrote:
jojohamps wrote:
I know that the bext chunk has a size of 752 bytes but i've failed to
break it down into the different fields.


I'm not sure if this will help, but you can check outhttp://www.cartchunk.com/applicat.htm
It's a Windows application that lets you examine the bext chunk (as well
as others). If you have some sample files, you can see just what's in them.


--
If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach
me he
double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo -- I'm really Mike Rivers
)


Thank you, but I need a description like that form byte 0-3 is the
chunkID from byte 4-7 chunk size and 8-304 *there is the description
field and so on.....i couldn't find such things in the web.


http://tech.ebu.ch/webdav/site/tech/...h/tech3285.pdf

http://tech.ebu.ch/webdav/site/tech/shared/r/r098.pdf

http://tech.ebu.ch/webdav/site/tech/shared/r/r085.pdf

http://tech.ebu.ch/webdav/site/tech/...h/tech3306.pdf

--
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[Please remove 'nojunkmail.' from address to reply via e-mail.]
Read Frank's thoughts on HDV athttp://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/
(also covers AVCHD and XDCAM EX).


Hi Frank,

thanks for your response, but i have already gone through these
documents. I wanted to create a list in such a schema, like below
(unfortunately it is in german and in a bad structure....)




RIFF Chunk (Länge 12 Bytes)
Byte Number Bemerkung Kodierung Bezeichnung
0 – 3 „RIFF“ ausgeschrieben (ASCII) Chunk ID
4 – 7 Gesamtlänge der Datei inkl. den Subchunks (uInt32) Chunk
Size
8 – 11 „WAVE“ ausgeschrieben (ASCII) RIFF Type

FORMAT Subchunk (Länge 24 Bytes)
Byte Number Bemerkung Kodierung Bezeichnung
0 – 3 „fmt_“ ausgeschrieben (mit Unterstrich) (ASCII) Subchunk 1
ID
4 – 7 Länge des FORMAT Chunks (uInt32, 0x10) Suchunk 1 Size
8 – 9 Audioformat, komprimiert oder unkomprimiert (uInt16) Audio
Format
10 – 11 Anzahl der Kanäle, Mono oder Stereo (uInt16) Num
Channels
12 – 15 Sample Rate in Hz (uInt32) Sample Rate
16 – 19 Bytes pro Sekunde, Datenübertragungsbandbreite (uInt32)
Byte Rate
20 – 21 Anzahl der Bytes die für ein Sample gebraucht werden
(uInt16) Block Align
22 - 23 Quantisierungsauflösung (uInt16) Bits per Sample




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On Dec 28, 7:11*pm, jojohamps wrote:
On Dec 28, 2:30*pm, Frank wrote:



On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 02:07:55 -0800 (PST), in 'rec.audio.pro',
in article bext chunk,


jojohamps wrote:
On Dec 28, 2:26*am, Mike Rivers wrote:
jojohamps wrote:
I know that the bext chunk has a size of 752 bytes but i've failed to
break it down into the different fields.


I'm not sure if this will help, but you can check outhttp://www.cartchunk.com/applicat.htm
It's a Windows application that lets you examine the bext chunk (as well
as others). If you have some sample files, you can see just what's in them.


--
If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach
me he
double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo -- I'm really Mike Rivers
)


Thank you, but I need a description like that form byte 0-3 is the
chunkID from byte 4-7 chunk size and 8-304 *there is the description
field and so on.....i couldn't find such things in the web.


http://tech.ebu.ch/webdav/site/tech/...h/tech3285.pdf


http://tech.ebu.ch/webdav/site/tech/shared/r/r098.pdf


http://tech.ebu.ch/webdav/site/tech/shared/r/r085.pdf


http://tech.ebu.ch/webdav/site/tech/...h/tech3306.pdf


--
Frank, Independent Consultant, New York, NY
[Please remove 'nojunkmail.' from address to reply via e-mail.]
Read Frank's thoughts on HDV athttp://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/
(also covers AVCHD and XDCAM EX).


Hi Frank,

thanks for your response, but i have already gone through these
documents. I wanted to create a list in such a schema, like below
(unfortunately it is in german and in a bad structure....)

RIFF Chunk (Länge 12 Bytes)
Byte Number Bemerkung * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Kodierung * * * Bezeichnung
0 – 3 * * * * * * * * „RIFF“ ausgeschrieben * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (ASCII) * * * * Chunk ID
4 – 7 * * * * * * * * Gesamtlänge der Datei inkl. den Subchunks * * * * * * *(uInt32) * * * * * * * *Chunk
Size
8 – 11 * * * * * * * * „WAVE“ ausgeschrieben * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *(ASCII) * * * * RIFF Type

FORMAT Subchunk (Länge 24 Bytes)
Byte Number Bemerkung * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Kodierung * * * Bezeichnung
0 – 3 * * * * * * * * „fmt_“ ausgeschrieben (mit Unterstrich) * * * * * * (ASCII) * * * * Subchunk 1
ID
4 – 7 * * * * * * * * Länge des FORMAT Chunks * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *(uInt32, 0x10) *Suchunk 1 Size
8 – 9 * * * * * * * * Audioformat, komprimiert oder unkomprimiert * * * * * * (uInt16) * * * * * * * *Audio
Format
10 – 11 * * * * * * * Anzahl der Kanäle, Mono oder Stereo * * * * * * * * * *(uInt16) * * * * * * * *Num
Channels
12 – 15 * * * * * * * Sample Rate in Hz * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (uInt32) * * * * * * * *Sample Rate
16 – 19 * * * * * * * Bytes pro Sekunde, Datenübertragungsbandbreite * * * * (uInt32)
Byte Rate
20 – 21 * * * * * * * Anzahl der Bytes die für ein Sample gebraucht werden
(uInt16) * * * * * * * *Block Align
22 - 23 * * * * * * * * Quantisierungsauflösung * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *(uInt16) * * * * * * * *Bits per Sample


Oh sorry for the mess!!
I could solve my structual problme in my work.
Thanx.
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:14:46 -0800 (PST), jojohamps wrote:

Dear group,

I'm writing my pre-diploma and I like to have a chart for the bext
chunk like on this page
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/CCRMA/Cour...ts/WaveFormat/

I know that the bext chunk has a size of 752 bytes but i've failed to
break it down into the different fields.


You may have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_Wave_Format
and its subpages.

HTH
Norbert
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:11:56 -0800 (PST), jojohamps wrote:

thanks for your response, but i have already gone through these
documents. I wanted to create a list in such a schema, like below
(unfortunately it is in german and in a bad structure....)


There is a better interpretation of the wav header in
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIFF_WAVE

Why can't you use it?

Norbert
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On 29 Dez., 00:29, Norbert Hahn wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:11:56 -0800 (PST), jojohamps wrote:
thanks for your response, but i have already gone through these
documents. I wanted to create a list in such a schema, like below
(unfortunately it is in german and in a bad structure....)


There is a better interpretation of the wav header inhttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIFF_WAVE

Why can't you use it?

Norbert


Hi,
because i don't really get in an unambiguos way the number of 752
bytes. I'am not a programmer so unable to recalculate it for myself.
I'm even not sure whether 752 bytes is the correct size or not.
But my problems dissolve in a way, because i haven't much time to
finish this work due to an horrible deadline....
Johannes
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On 30 Dez., 01:49, jojohamps wrote:
On 29 Dez., 00:29, Norbert Hahn wrote:

On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:11:56 -0800 (PST), jojohamps wrote:
thanks for your response, but i have already gone through these
documents. I wanted to create a list in such a schema, like below
(unfortunately it is in german and in a bad structure....)


There is a better interpretation of the wav header inhttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIFF_WAVE


Why can't you use it?


Norbert


Hi,
because i don't really get in an unambiguos way the number of 752
bytes. I'am not a programmer so unable to recalculate it for myself.
I'm even not sure whether 752 bytes is the correct size or not.
But my problems dissolve in a way, because i haven't much time to
finish this work due to an horrible deadline....
Johannes


But Norbert I know these sites...


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On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:49:26 -0800 (PST), jojohamps wrote:

On 29 Dez., 00:29, Norbert Hahn wrote:
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:11:56 -0800 (PST), jojohamps wrote:
thanks for your response, but i have already gone through these
documents. I wanted to create a list in such a schema, like below
(unfortunately it is in german and in a bad structure....)


There is a better interpretation of the wav header inhttp://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIFF_WAVE

Why can't you use it?

Norbert


Hi,
because i don't really get in an unambiguos way the number of 752
bytes. I'am not a programmer so unable to recalculate it for myself.
I'm even not sure whether 752 bytes is the correct size or not.


There is no fixed size for any chunk in a wav file except for the
format chunk.
Where do you find 752 bytes?

Norbert
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