Powell a écrit :

In Scott’s case his predicament was neither financially
or psychologically taxing, but an overaction due to youth,
IMO.

To youth ? LOL.
You should have a look to the way that he is navigating on RAHE with the
automatic pilot *ON*.
As soon as you will be back you will explain me your definition of
"youth" ok ? ;-)

david mccall wrote"


I don't know what group Arny, Morein, etc. are from, but you can
keep them all to yourselves. They have little to offer that is of any
interest to rec.video.*










Nor do your comments avout rec.video on an AUDIO ng.



Bruce J. Richman

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:37:40 -0400, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message


unless I'm wrong about the fact that Maxtor doesn't even
*make* a 250gb internal drive at this point in time.

Silly boy!

Doesn't know how to spell pricewatch.

Doesn't even know how to spell google.

But, here's the consumer version for you Weil:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...56956?v=glance

and here's another option (of very, very many)

http://www.bestbargainpc.com/ma2572idehad.html

I stand corrected then.

Now, are you willing to admit *your* error?

Didn't think so...

"John Doe" wrote in message
...
You can buy whatever you like. But, if I am going to spend that kind of
money on an external drive and I am going to make sure that it isn't a
Maxtor brand and that it has a $3 fan in the case. Plain and simple. The
cooler you keep your computer the longer it will live and the more
reliable
it will be. This is why my full tower case have 16 fans, and why I bought
a
small air compressor to keep them and everything else cleaned out.

John



16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !! I
have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage. The drives only get slightly warm to the touch
but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!

--
Mike "mikey" Fields
http://home.comcast.net/~mike.fields/
outgoing email scanned by Norton Antivirus ... is that good ?

Linux users brag on how long their system stays up,
Window users assume it's a temporary condition ...

"Mike Fields" wrote in message
news:U2QMc.183780$XM6.178198@attbi_s53

16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !!

If he pointed them all the same way...

I have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage.

Not a bad idea. Done so, many times.

The drives only get slightly warm to the touch

Imagine what 16 fans would do!

but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!

The long extension cord will be his undoing.

"Mike Fields" wrote in message
news:U2QMc.183780$XM6.178198@attbi_s53...
"John Doe" wrote in message
...
You can buy whatever you like. But, if I am going to spend that kind of
money on an external drive and I am going to make sure that it isn't a
Maxtor brand and that it has a $3 fan in the case. Plain and simple. The
cooler you keep your computer the longer it will live and the more
reliable
it will be. This is why my full tower case have 16 fans, and why I
bought
a
small air compressor to keep them and everything else cleaned out.

John



16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !! I
have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage. The drives only get slightly warm to the touch
but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!

--
Mike "mikey" Fields


Hehehe... If you aimed all the thrust downward and put a tether on it you
could have the case hover by the ceiling and give you more desk space or
foot space as appropriate.

Rich

In article U2QMc.183780$XM6.178198@attbi_s53,
"Mike Fields" wrote:

"John Doe" wrote in message
...
You can buy whatever you like. But, if I am going to spend that kind of
money on an external drive and I am going to make sure that it isn't a
Maxtor brand and that it has a $3 fan in the case. Plain and simple. The
cooler you keep your computer the longer it will live and the more
reliable
it will be. This is why my full tower case have 16 fans, and why I bought
a
small air compressor to keep them and everything else cleaned out.

John



16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !! I
have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage. The drives only get slightly warm to the touch
but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!

--
Mike "mikey" Fields
http://home.comcast.net/~mike.fields/
outgoing email scanned by Norton Antivirus ... is that good ?

Linux users brag on how long their system stays up,
Window users assume it's a temporary condition ...






Maybe it was a package deal with his latest Windows upgrade

"Robert Morein" wrote in message

In article U2QMc.183780$XM6.178198@attbi_s53,

"Mike Fields" wrote:

16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !! I
have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage. The drives only get slightly warm to the touch
but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!


Maybe it was a package deal with his latest Windows upgrade

That retailer dodge takes only one fan.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Robert Morein" wrote in message

In article U2QMc.183780$XM6.178198@attbi_s53,

"Mike Fields" wrote:

16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !! I
have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage. The drives only get slightly warm to the touch
but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!


Maybe it was a package deal with his latest Windows upgrade

That retailer dodge takes only one fan.

Arny, forgery. You want to bash the real Bob Morein.

In article ,
"Robert Morein" wrote:

No, it's not.
The Supreme Court hears, on the average, only 2% of the cases presented to
it. Because of the extremely limited number of cases SOCUS can hear, the
cases are chosen based upon the urgency of the constitutional issue
involved.
Unlike other courts that may apply in the appeals process, a hearing before
the Supreme Court is not guaranteed by due process.
Consequently, the Supreme Court DID NOT RULE on my case.

Where was it you said you got your PhD?

In article ,
"Robert Morein" wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"dave weil" wrote in message


unless I'm wrong about the fact that Maxtor doesn't even
*make* a 250gb internal drive at this point in time.

Silly boy!

Doesn't know how to spell pricewatch.

Doesn't even know how to spell google.

But, here's the consumer version for you Weil:
[snip]

Doesn't know how to spell Morien
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_o...8&as_ugroup=re
c.audio.opinion&as_uauthors=Krueger&lr=&hl=en



And as a PhD candidate in engineering you didn't know how to make a
wooden box

"Robert Morein" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Robert Morein" wrote in message

In article U2QMc.183780$XM6.178198@attbi_s53,

"Mike Fields" wrote:

16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !! I
have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage. The drives only get slightly warm to the
touch but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!


Maybe it was a package deal with his latest Windows upgrade

That retailer dodge takes only one fan.

Arny, forgery. You want to bash the real Bob Morein.

No, I don't.

Rich wrote:

"Mike Fields" wrote in message
news:U2QMc.183780$XM6.178198@attbi_s53...
"John Doe" wrote in message
...
You can buy whatever you like. But, if I am going to spend that kind of
money on an external drive and I am going to make sure that it isn't a
Maxtor brand and that it has a $3 fan in the case. Plain and simple. The
cooler you keep your computer the longer it will live and the more
reliable
it will be. This is why my full tower case have 16 fans, and why I
bought
a
small air compressor to keep them and everything else cleaned out.

John



16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !! I
have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage. The drives only get slightly warm to the touch
but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!

--
Mike "mikey" Fields

Hehehe... If you aimed all the thrust downward and put a tether on it you
could have the case hover by the ceiling and give you more desk space or
foot space as appropriate.

Rich

But a power failure would be deadly. ;-

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Robert Morein" wrote in message

In article U2QMc.183780$XM6.178198@attbi_s53,

"Mike Fields" wrote:

16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !! I
have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage. The drives only get slightly warm to the touch
but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!

Maybe it was a package deal with his latest Windows upgrade

That retailer dodge takes only one fan.

I used a $3 mouse...

In article ,
Keith Clark wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Robert Morein" wrote in message

In article U2QMc.183780$XM6.178198@attbi_s53,

"Mike Fields" wrote:

16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !! I
have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage. The drives only get slightly warm to the touch
but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!

Maybe it was a package deal with his latest Windows upgrade

That retailer dodge takes only one fan.

I used a $3 mouse...



Any notions on where I can get a frugal mouse

Robert Morein wrote:

In article ,
Keith Clark wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Robert Morein" wrote in message

In article U2QMc.183780$XM6.178198@attbi_s53,

"Mike Fields" wrote:

16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !! I
have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage. The drives only get slightly warm to the touch
but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!

Maybe it was a package deal with his latest Windows upgrade

That retailer dodge takes only one fan.

I used a $3 mouse...



Any notions on where I can get a frugal mouse

Any mom & pop computer store.

In article ,
Keith Clark wrote:

Robert Morein wrote:

In article ,
Keith Clark wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Robert Morein" wrote in message

In article U2QMc.183780$XM6.178198@attbi_s53,

"Mike Fields" wrote:

16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !! I
have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage. The drives only get slightly warm to the touch
but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!

Maybe it was a package deal with his latest Windows upgrade

That retailer dodge takes only one fan.

I used a $3 mouse...



Any notions on where I can get a frugal mouse

Any mom & pop computer store.


Doi!!! My damn allergies

"Robert Morein" wrote

We've got to remember that Morein tried to sue his
school in the Supreme Court of the United States in a
failed attempt to get a PhD degree. This is one
seriously and expensively bruised ego.

As one who has invested substantial funds in attorney
fees as a necessary expense of doing business I can
appreciate Robert's disposition on the matter. I have
respect for anyone who has been thought the financial
commitment of litigation and psychological hardships
they can cause.

I am surprised at the kindly thoughts, but I accept the intention.

So what, I’m not the bogeyman, Robert?


As you note, Powell, this kind of experience changes a person.
I would not say, however, that it damaged me. It did change me.

"It did change me"... I’m legally a better games-man for
the ware but at the expense of my innocence. From them
(attorneys) I learned “Never give a sucker an even break or
smarter up a champ - W.C Fields”... an egregious cross to
bare.


It is quite a natural thing that since I enjoy embarassing Arny,
he would return the favor. I do not begrudge him the privilege.

Yes, we all seem give him the attention (emotional) of which
he is most needy, indeed.


My graduate work was in the area of statistical systems theory.
I have a specialist's interest in clarifying the understanding of
the public as to the true meaning of MTBF. To quote Mark Twain
again,

"There are lies, damned lies, and statistics."

BTW, I read that Moore’s Law, regarding nano technology, is
facing a wall in about seven years. It seems that electrical
circuits, in CPU possessors, can be made no narrower than
two atoms wide. Perhaps that’s the stock/hobby investment
you're looking for. HP is touting nano technology investors
(stock). It also seems that much research is currently being
invested in growing bacteria to create electrical circuits, by
chemical recovery/conversion to copper atoms.


I regret that one could be lead to believe that a disk drive could
run 160 years, based upon the misinterpretation of a highly
misleading term that has been ruthlessly exploited by marketing
mavens to rook the public.

Well, yes and no. In most business situations, for example,
data storage needs will far outstrip long term hard drive
capacity/longevity. That’s why computers are depreciated and
business plans beyond three years are astrologically based.


There are only a very few statistical distributions that are used
for all these circumstances: Poisson, binomial, Gaussian, and
a handful more. These can be used to predict failure rate for a
handful of years, but nothing more.

Yea, Ok. You spend a lot of your time living out of your head,
Robert. But that's ok, I understand... wince .

"Arny Krueger" wrote

16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a
computer !!

If he pointed them all the same way...

32 fans would only be marginally better that one or two.

In one of my PCs I’ve installed about one square foot of
specialized acoustic foam inside. Also installed an external
sound muffler on the power supply fan, all of which slow
down the air flow, but only recorded an eight degree
increase in internal PC temperature. This original poster
is as prone as you are to poor thinking. I’m surprised
you’re not touting water cooled PC package systems?

BTW, I’ve used an external One Touch - 300 GB Maxtor
HD for a year... not even a hiccup. I’m thinking about a
passive (cooled) or power fan (muffler) only PC next time
around. Do you think 2 - Xeon possessors could live
happily in a hot-house? I’d hate to guess, so I’m asking
for your advice, first )).


I have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows
directly across the hard drive cage.

Not a bad idea. Done so, many times.

Why, the PC's internal framework is a heat sink, too. You’re
wasteful, even at the 12 volt level, Arny .

In article ,
"Powell" wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote

16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a
computer !!

If he pointed them all the same way...

32 fans would only be marginally better that one or two.

In one of my PCs I’ve installed about one square foot of
specialized acoustic foam inside. Also installed an external
sound muffler on the power supply fan, all of which slow
down the air flow, but only recorded an eight degree
increase in internal PC temperature. This original poster
is as prone as you are to poor thinking. I’m surprised
you’re not touting water cooled PC package systems?

BTW, I’ve used an external One Touch - 300 GB Maxtor
HD for a year... not even a hiccup. I’m thinking about a
passive (cooled) or power fan (muffler) only PC next time
around. Do you think 2 - Xeon possessors could live
happily in a hot-house? I’d hate to guess, so I’m asking
for your advice, first )).


I have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows
directly across the hard drive cage.

Not a bad idea. Done so, many times.

Why, the PC's internal framework is a heat sink, too. You’re
wasteful, even at the 12 volt level, Arny .





So if you have a bidet how DO you dry your butt? I saw a great cartoon
of a woman lifting her leg up to the hot-air blower in a restroom, but
somehow I doubt that that's the answer.

Robert Morein wrote:

In article ,
Keith Clark wrote:

Robert Morein wrote:

In article ,
Keith Clark wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Robert Morein" wrote in message

In article U2QMc.183780$XM6.178198@attbi_s53,

"Mike Fields" wrote:

16 fans ??? That is more of a hover craft than a computer !! I
have an Antec case and put a second fan so it blows directly across
the hard drive cage. The drives only get slightly warm to the touch
but it never occured to me to make a hovercraft out of a
computer case !!

Maybe it was a package deal with his latest Windows upgrade

That retailer dodge takes only one fan.

I used a $3 mouse...



Any notions on where I can get a frugal mouse

Any mom & pop computer store.


Doi!!! My damn allergies

Moron.