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Hmm, I'm Irish and I live in Ireland. Do make up your mind. Not so long ago you were ashamed to be Australian. -- Eiron. |
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:33:48 +0100, Eiron wrote:
Andre Jute wrote: Hmm, I'm Irish and I live in Ireland. Do make up your mind. Not so long ago you were ashamed to be Australian. In his Walter Mitty world he is whatever he decides to be today. On Monday he will be an astronaut, maybe. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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On Apr 12, 7:01 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On 12 Apr 2007 10:52:35 -0700, "Cavello" wrote: On Apr 12, 4:05 pm, Eeyore wrote: Cavellowrote: Laurence Payne wrote I've never known Irish people object seriously to the geographical name. They make it clear they aren't part of the United Kingdom, of course. Well, you learn something new every day, don't you? The reason it's not widely objected to in Ireland is that we hardly ever come across it in Ireland. When we hear 'British Isles', we assume it to mean the UK (Isle of Mann etc), and the nearby islands that belong to the UK. The Isle of Man (note correct spelling) is not part of the UK. I wasn't aware of that, and if I'm wrong I do apologise. But two points come to mind: (1) This is what wikipedia has to say on the matter: "The Crown Dependencies of the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man, formally possessions of the Crown, form a federacy with the United Kingdom collectively known as the British Islands." I have no idea what that means so I'm not saying it's right, but you've caused me to become interested in its precise status. What is its relationship with the UK then? Is it an independent country? (2) It's ironic that you're quick to point out that the Isle of Mann isn't in the UK but insist that Ireland is in the 'British Isles' when few people in Ireland wish it to be termed as such. Quid pro quo? Graham Please try and understand. British Islands is a political description. It does not include your bit. British Isles is a geographic description. It does include your bit. There is no irony in point (2). It really is quite simple. Knock that plank-sized chip off your shoulder and you may yet be able to see it. Listen, I don't like having to repeat myself, but just because a term is a geographic term rather than a political one doesn't mean Irish people have to accept it. I know it's a geographic term. I said that myself ages ago. But we still don't want it, and we consider it's use offensive. So no, it's not as simple as you think it is. d -- Pearce Consultinghttp://www.pearce.uk.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Apr 13, 12:30 am, Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
wrote: On 12 Apr 2007 10:52:35 -0700, "Cavello" wrote: I wasn't aware of that, and if I'm wrong I do apologise. But two points come to mind: (1) This is what wikipedia has to say on the matter: Can we have YOUR knowledge please, not just what you've dredged up on the notoriously unreliable Wikipedia? As I explained in my post, I don't have any knowledge on the matter of the status of the Isle of Man. I was *asking* for information. Also, I didn't stand over what I posted from Wikipedia, and in fact said I didn't know what the quote meant. You are surreal. |
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On Apr 12, 6:04 pm, Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom
wrote: On 12 Apr 2007 05:21:20 -0700, "Cavello" wrote: Well, you learn something new every day, don't you? The reason it's not widely objected to in Ireland is that we hardly ever come across it in Ireland. When we hear 'British Isles', we assume it to mean the UK (Isle of Mann etc), and the nearby islands that belong to the UK. In fact, that's how the British government defines the term 'British Islands'. I've never heard the term "British Islands" beford today. Did you just make it up? Check for yourself in the Interpretation Act, 1978. |
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On Apr 12, 7:23 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On 12 Apr 2007 11:17:14 -0700, "Cavello" wrote: On Apr 12, 2:21 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote: On 12 Apr 2007 06:17:36 -0700, "Cavello" wrote: British islands - adjective and noun; islands that are British. That includes all of Great Britain, many small islands and part of the island of Ireland. British Isles - geographic name of an archipelago off the coast of Europe, comprising Great Britain, Ireland and many small islands. Try and understand the difference. Try to understand the similarity, more like. Try also to understand that if most people in a country don't want to have their country labeled one of the 'British Isles', don't do it. I am not labelling a country. I am labelling an island, which in case it had escaped your attention has two countries on it - one of which is very happy to accept the label. No, it didn't escape my attention. I live here. It's recent history seems to have spectacularly escaped your attention though - anyone who thinks it an accurate description of reality to say that the people of Northern Ireland are 'very happy' to be in the British Isles is some clown indeed. About sixty percent of them are, but the other forty percent sure aren't. They couldn't agree on the colour of the sky, so 'very happy' hardly ever enters into any discussion up there. But get back to the fact that the vast majority of people in Ireland (the country, which is what I have been talking about all along) don't accept this term 'British Isles', and you're still the guy trying to foist a geographic term on people who don't want it. Think up a new name of these islands. ********. They have a perfectly good name that has stood since long before you arrived from north Africa, Scotland or Norway. You think it's a perfectly good name. On the other hand, this is what Dermot Ahern, the Irish Minister for Foreign Affairs had on the matter in 2006: "The British Isles is not an officially recognised term in any legal or inter-governmental sense. It is without any official status. The Government, including the Department of Foreign Affairs, does not use this term. Our officials in the Embassy of Ireland, London, continue to monitor the media in Britain for any abuse of the official terms as set out in the Constitution of Ireland and in legislation." He's a member of the Government that represents the people of Ireland. Your politics has clouded your reason. Politics and reason aren't mututally exclusive. They are in Ireland - have been for a hundred years. My politics is that I'm an Irish person. And like most Irish people, I'm of the view that the term 'British Isles' should not be used to include the country I live in. For that reason, I think people who use the term in that way should cease. Sorry old chap - that simply isn't your choice, you'll just have to keep wishing. But saying a thing is so doesn't make it so, I'm afraid. d -- Pearce Consultinghttp://www.pearce.uk.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Apr 12, 7:23 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On 12 Apr 2007 11:17:14 -0700, "Cavello" wrote: On Apr 12, 2:21 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote: On 12 Apr 2007 06:17:36 -0700, "Cavello" wrote: British islands - adjective and noun; islands that are British. That includes all of Great Britain, many small islands and part of the island of Ireland. British Isles - geographic name of an archipelago off the coast of Europe, comprising Great Britain, Ireland and many small islands. Try and understand the difference. Try to understand the similarity, more like. Try also to understand that if most people in a country don't want to have their country labeled one of the 'British Isles', don't do it. I am not labelling a country. I am labelling an island, which in case it had escaped your attention has two countries on it - one of which is very happy to accept the label. No, it didn't escape my attention. I live here. It's recent history seems to have spectacularly escaped your attention though - anyone who thinks it an accurate description of reality to say that the people of Northern Ireland are 'very happy' to be in the British Isles is some clown indeed. About sixty percent of them are, but the other forty percent sure aren't. They couldn't agree on the colour of the sky, so 'very happy' hardly ever enters into any discussion up there. But get back to the fact that the vast majority of people in Ireland (the country, which is what I have been talking about all along) don't accept this term 'British Isles', and you're still the guy trying to foist a geographic term on people who don't want it. Think up a new name of these islands. ********. They have a perfectly good name that has stood since long before you arrived from north Africa, Scotland or Norway. Your politics has clouded your reason. Politics and reason aren't mututally exclusive. They are in Ireland - have been for a hundred years. My politics is that I'm an Irish person. And like most Irish people, I'm of the view that the term 'British Isles' should not be used to include the country I live in. For that reason, I think people who use the term in that way should cease. Sorry old chap - that simply isn't your choice, you'll just have to keep wishing. But saying a thing is so doesn't make it so, I'm afraid. It's the choice of the Irish people, not the British people. d -- Pearce Consultinghttp://www.pearce.uk.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On Apr 12, 9:22 pm, Eeyore
wrote: Cavellowrote: Eeyore wrote: So what group of island is Nothern Ireland part of ? I couldn't care less. That's not part of my country. It's the same island ! So what? You asked me what group of islands Northern Ireland is part of. I said I couldn't care less cos it's not part of my country. Telling me it's the same island doesn't affect whether I care or not. Let the British call Northern Ireland whatever they like, I live in the Republic. It is legally part of the 'British Islands' so if you want to also include it in the British Isles, go ahead. Just don't include Ireland. Both countries are in Ireland. You're referring to the Republic, a purely political distinction. I've never come across an island whose definition changed when crossing a border before ! Well, you learn something new every day. They're two different countries. Each side can call their own territory whatever they wish. It's the British who have chosen to include Northern Ireland under the term 'British Islands'. Take it up with them. Graham |
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On Apr 12, 9:25 pm, Eeyore
wrote: Cavellowrote: Eeyore wrote: Cavellowrote: That's not what I'm saying either. I don't care if the group of islands has a name or not. I'm simply pointing out that the British Isles doesn't include Ireland. The term does exist, but it doesn't include Ireland. LOL ! I believe this is what's often called 'having a paddy' ! I'm not familiar with the expression. But I detect a racial slur coming on. http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_b...ages/1245.html Graham A racist expression as I thought. **** you too. |
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On Apr 12, 7:41 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On 12 Apr 2007 11:36:07 -0700, "Cavello" wrote: On Apr 12, 4:14 pm, Eeyore wrote: Cavellowrote: I'm merely pointing out to you that *calling* this group of islands "the British Isles" is objectionable to most Irish people. It's also a term not used by the Irish government. So what do they call it ? They don't call it anything, instead referring to 'Ireland and Britain', or else they use the term 'These islands' or 'the Isles' or 'IONA (Islands of the North Atlantic)', but none of these terms has really taken hold yet. These are some of the terms mostly used in joint statements by the British and Irish governments any time they meet to discuss Northern Ireland. The British Government tends to steer well clear of using the term, at least when Northern Ireland is the topic of discussion. Iona? Perfect. That is already a British island, just off the larger island of Mull. I know. I didn't say Iona, I said 'IONA (Islands of the North Atlantic)'. It's rather like the UN. When you hear UN, you don't think of the town in India called Un. And of course there are plenty of other Islands of the North Atlantic. I am from the Faroe Islands, which I believe would have a far better claim on the term as they are surrounded by the North Atlantic - unlike the British Isles. Then IONA doesn't sound like it's a good enough term either. The British Governments legal definition of the 'British Islands' doesn't include Ireland. Yes it does unless Northern Irelanders get a different passport to a standard UK one. I'm referring to Ireland the country, not Ireland the island. The term 'British Islands' does include Northern Ireland. Northern Irelanders get the same UK passport as anyone else in Britain so far as I know, but of course they're also entitled to an Irish passport. So what's the problem? It seems that you have everything you could possibly want. ?? d -- Pearce Consultinghttp://www.pearce.uk.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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On 13 Apr 2007 05:08:33 -0700, "Cavello" wrote:
Listen, I don't like having to repeat myself, but just because a term is a geographic term rather than a political one doesn't mean Irish people have to accept it. I know it's a geographic term. I said that myself ages ago. But we still don't want it, and we consider it's use offensive. So no, it's not as simple as you think it is. It rarely is when dealing with the Irish :-) |
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On 13 Apr 2007 05:15:07 -0700, "Cavello" wrote:
I've never heard the term "British Islands" beford today. Did you just make it up? Check for yourself in the Interpretation Act, 1978. OK,I believe you. Is the term much used in Ireland? Does it feel better than "British Isles"? |
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On 13 Apr 2007 05:21:54 -0700, "Cavello" wrote:
Sorry old chap - that simply isn't your choice, you'll just have to keep wishing. But saying a thing is so doesn't make it so, I'm afraid. It's the choice of the Irish people, not the British people. Dream on :-) |
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Eiron wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Hmm, I'm Irish and I live in Ireland. Do make up your mind. Not so long ago you were ashamed to be Australian. -- Eiron. There you go with you blimp-blimp turret-slit view of the world and your total lack of imagination, demanding that everyone fits your into your dumb definitions of fish or fowl, and insisting that it be your fish or fowl. You're not too bright, are you Eiron? Ever hear of dual citizenship? Ever hear of people who belong genetically to a nation? Ever hear anything at all? (What are you doing on an audio group?) Now, besides the standard dumb soundbite personal attack that we have come to expect from idiots like you, how about answering the rest of my points: Hmm, I'm Irish and I live in Ireland. I have also lived in Britain and have much cause to be grateful to the British, who offered me a place to stay when I was a political exile, and education and wealth and much besides. I do actually know the meanings of all these descriptions of the islands, geographic and political. But I don't care enough to explain to anyone. What I do care about is the appalling manners exhibited by Pearce and Payne and the rest of the Britscum in forcing, in what must now be a hundred messages, down the throat of the unwilling Cavello the notion that they, the British, are the master race. The British are surprisingly well regarded by the minority of thoughtful people around the world, but it is triumphalist trash like you who make the majority of the world hate the British as a class of much poorer ugly Americans. What have you ever done, yourself, to earn the right to such a patronizing attitude? The number of those messages and their repetive, mindless, dull, thugging insistence is a form of bullying. The number of those messages also demonstrates that the British are exceedingly sensitive indeed about their lost Empire. It's jumped-up, overage school bullies like you who caused it to be lost. The public problem with your type of Brit is that you are the most graceless losers in the world; it is just as well your government (of either persausion) doesn't pay any attention to your Gibraltarian chattering. Andre Jute Zero tolerance for overripe school bullies |
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Don Pearce wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:33:48 +0100, Eiron wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Hmm, I'm Irish and I live in Ireland. Do make up your mind. Not so long ago you were ashamed to be Australian. In his Walter Mitty world he is whatever he decides to be today. On Monday he will be an astronaut, maybe. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com Waddle, waddle, you moral and mental midget. Where's your answer to my original post in which I nailed you by name for your foul manners and your unfounded pretentions? **** Hmm, I'm Irish and I live in Ireland. I have also lived in Britain and have much cause to be grateful to the British, who offered me a place to stay when I was a political exile, and education and wealth and much besides. I do actually know the meanings of all these descriptions of the islands, geographic and political. But I don't care enough to explain to anyone. What I do care about is the appalling manners exhibited by Pearce and Payne and the rest of the Britscum in forcing, in what must now be a hundred messages, down the throat of the unwilling Cavello the notion that they, the British, are the master race. The British are surprisingly well regarded by the minority of thoughtful people around the world, but it is triumphalist trash like you who make the majority of the world hate the British as a class of much poorer ugly Americans. What have you ever done, yourself, to earn the right to such a patronizing attitude? The number of those messages and their repetive, mindless, dull, thugging insistence is a form of bullying. The number of those messages also demonstrates that the British are exceedingly sensitive indeed about their lost Empire. It's jumped-up, overage school bullies like you who caused it to be lost. The public problem with your type of Brit is that you are the most graceless losers in the world; it is just as well your government (of either persausion) doesn't pay any attention to your Gibraltarian chattering. Andre Jute Zero tolerance for overripe school bullies |
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 09:14:18 -0500, flipper wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:59:56 +0100, Laurence Payne lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote: On 13 Apr 2007 05:15:07 -0700, "Cavello" wrote: I've never heard the term "British Islands" beford today. Did you just make it up? Check for yourself in the Interpretation Act, 1978. OK,I believe you. Is the term much used in Ireland? Does it feel better than "British Isles"? It doesn't mean the same thing. "British Islands" means the United Kingdom, the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man. While the disputed meaning of "British Isles" supposedly includes The Republic of Ireland, which is independent and the reason for the objection. The term British Isles does NOT describe any countries - including the Irish Republic. It delineates a geologically related group of rocks - some larger, some smaller - sticking out of the Atlantic close to Europe. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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Andre Jute wrote:
Eiron wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Hmm, I'm Irish and I live in Ireland. Do make up your mind. Not so long ago you were ashamed to be Australian. -- Eiron. There you go with you blimp-blimp turret-slit view of the world and your total lack of imagination, demanding that everyone fits your into your dumb definitions of fish or fowl, and insisting that it be your fish or fowl. You're not too bright, are you Eiron? Ever hear of dual citizenship? Ever hear of people who belong genetically to a nation? Ever hear anything at all? (What are you doing on an audio group?) Now, besides the standard dumb soundbite personal attack that we have come to expect from idiots like you, how about answering the rest of my points: It sometimes amuses me to point out your lies and it always amuses me to read your blustering when you unsuccessfully try to defend them. I don't need to justify my membership of uk.rec.audio, though perhaps you do, now that you have insulted the British. It never occurred to me that an Irishman might be offended by the fact that Eire is part of an island in the British Isles. I blame the Romans for first lumping them together under one name. I wonder if Mexicans are offended by 'Central America', 'Gulf of California', 'Baja California' or 'The Americas'? -- Eiron. |
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flipper wrote: While the disputed meaning of "British Isles" supposedly includes The Republic of Ireland, which is independent and the reason for the objection. It includes the Republic only by dint of its location. To be honest if the Irish want to invent some new term to describe their geographic status I have no problem with that. Graham |
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On Apr 13, 12:29 pm, Eiron wrote:
Andre Jute wrote: Eiron wrote: Andre Jute wrote: Hmm, I'm Irish and I live in Ireland. Do make up your mind. Not so long ago you were ashamed to be Australian. -- Eiron. There you go with you blimp-blimp turret-slit view of the world and your total lack of imagination, demanding that everyone fits your into your dumb definitions of fish or fowl, and insisting that it be your fish or fowl. You're not too bright, are you Eiron? Ever hear of dual citizenship? Ever hear of people who belong genetically to a nation? Ever hear anything at all? (What are you doing on an audio group?) Now, besides the standard dumb soundbite personal attack that we have come to expect from idiots like you, how about answering the rest of my points: It sometimes amuses me to point out your lies and it always amuses me to read your blustering when you unsuccessfully try to defend them. I don't need to justify my membership of uk.rec.audio, though perhaps you do, now that you have insulted the British. It never occurred to me that an Irishman might be offended by the fact that Eire is part of an island in the British Isles. I blame the Romans for first lumping them together under one name. I wonder if Mexicans are offended by 'Central America', 'Gulf of California', 'Baja California' or 'The Americas'? -- Eiron.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Jute-McCoy is Irish only by distant extraction for which Ireland and the British Isles are diminished by its presence. It is an insult in general, not confined to any nationality. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:02:44 -0500, flipper wrote:
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:05:32 +0100, Eeyore wrote: flipper wrote: While the disputed meaning of "British Isles" supposedly includes The Republic of Ireland, which is independent and the reason for the objection. It includes the Republic only by dint of its location. The apparent 'problem' isn't the location, it's being labeled 'British'. To be honest if the Irish want to invent some new term to describe their geographic status I have no problem with that. Would seem to be a rather painless solution. Graham So what it boils down to is that he is a racist **** who is happy enough to join our party, drink our beer and eat our nibbles but wants to stand up in the middle of it and call us names - same goes for the Jute excrescence. If they could both just unsubscribe from uk.r.a we would all be much better off. I've already kicked them both out of my personal party by way of my killfile. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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On Apr 12, 1:23 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On 12 Apr 2007 11:17:52 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: Fly poop to the right, pepper to the left. Anyone got a clue? d -- Pearce Consultinghttp://www.pearce.uk.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Cavello & Eeyore et.al. arguing over the "British Isles"... separating fly-poop from pepper.... Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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On 14 Apr 2007 02:58:16 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote:
On Apr 12, 1:23 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote: On 12 Apr 2007 11:17:52 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: Fly poop to the right, pepper to the left. Anyone got a clue? d -- Pearce Consultinghttp://www.pearce.uk.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Cavello & Eeyore et.al. arguing over the "British Isles"... separating fly-poop from pepper.... Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Well, I guess that in Wyncote, PA, stuff that happens in the next county appears on TV in the foreign news section. I mean what do you have? A couple of baseball diamonds and a football field (I don't count the stuff beyond Church Road or N. Easton as Wyncote) ;-) d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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flipper wrote: Eeyore wrote: flipper wrote: While the disputed meaning of "British Isles" supposedly includes The Republic of Ireland, which is independent and the reason for the objection. It includes the Republic only by dint of its location. The apparent 'problem' isn't the location, it's being labeled 'British'. On account of being so close to Britain ! To be honest if the Irish want to invent some new term to describe their geographic status I have no problem with that. Would seem to be a rather painless solution. Anyway we never complained about them having the Irish Sea ! Graham |
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On Apr 14, 5:13 am, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On 14 Apr 2007 02:58:16 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: On Apr 12, 1:23 pm, (Don Pearce) wrote: On 12 Apr 2007 11:17:52 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: Fly poop to the right, pepper to the left. Anyone got a clue? d -- Pearce Consultinghttp://www.pearce.uk.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Cavello & Eeyore et.al. arguing over the "British Isles"... separating fly-poop from pepper.... Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Well, I guess that in Wyncote, PA, stuff that happens in the next county appears on TV in the foreign news section. I mean what do you have? A couple of baseball diamonds and a football field (I don't count the stuff beyond Church Road or N. Easton as Wyncote) ;-) d -- Pearce Consultinghttp://www.pearce.uk.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Within old Wyncote? Not even that. Our house is amongst the newest in the immediate area having been built in 1896. There is quite a bit of preserved open land, but none of it sports-fields. Ezra Pound lived a while down the next block a bit, and Breyer of Ice Cream fame across the creek. But we are part of Cheltenham Township that is 40,000 strong and quite in tune with the world. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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flipper wrote:
Hispanola is 'close' to Cuba too but it ain't a 'Cuban Isle', Cuba being 'the big island' notwithstanding. (so much for 'convention') Good example. Now check out Micronesia. -- Eiron. |
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flipper wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 09:11:08 +0100, Eiron wrote: flipper wrote: Hispanola is 'close' to Cuba too but it ain't a 'Cuban Isle', Cuba being 'the big island' notwithstanding. (so much for 'convention') Good example. Now check out Micronesia. What am I to check it for? Analogies. What else? The best solution to the "British Isles" question would seem to be the repeal of the various acts of union so Cavello and Jute can get back to hating the English rather than mistakenly including the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish, and stop complaining about a perfectly good name, which has been in use for over two thousand years, for a group of islands. -- Eiron. |
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:09:39 +0100, Eiron wrote:
flipper wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 09:11:08 +0100, Eiron wrote: flipper wrote: Hispanola is 'close' to Cuba too but it ain't a 'Cuban Isle', Cuba being 'the big island' notwithstanding. (so much for 'convention') Good example. Now check out Micronesia. What am I to check it for? Analogies. What else? The best solution to the "British Isles" question would seem to be the repeal of the various acts of union so Cavello and Jute can get back to hating the English rather than mistakenly including the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish, and stop complaining about a perfectly good name, which has been in use for over two thousand years, for a group of islands. An even better one would be for them to each get a life, and stop hating. I'm currently working with a couple of dozen people from Eire, all of whom are well educated and highly motivated. Not one of them has the social problems exhibited by Cavello and Jute. Over the last few days I have asked some of them the name they used for the island group we inhabit. Every one of them said it was the British Isles. Mind you they are big city folk, mostly from Dublin, and not country dwellers. I wonder if it is simply a redneck problem after all? d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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