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BEHRINGER VAMPIRE, Great !!! Nice Price
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I just bought a BEHRINGER Vampire and I would like to share my impressions: The Behringer V-Ampire is brand new (released September 2003) and I've only had it for a liitle over two weeks, but since there isn't any review yet, I thought I'd share my thoughts anyway. I have been a very happy user of the BEHRINGER V-Amp 2 for 1 1/2 years though, so getting started on the BEHRINGER V-Ampire was very easy for me. It's a modelling combo with 32 amp models and all the usual effects (compressor, wah/auto-wah, chorus, phaser, flanger, rotary, delay, reverb), so it's as versatile as an amp can get. My band plays funk/soul covers, but I also play quite a bit of rock guitar, and the BEHRINGER V-Ampire gives me all the sounds that I will need for the songs we play. One addtional effect that I would like to have is an acoustic simulation (as in the BEHRINGER Bass V-Amp) because it might come in handy live, and there isn't a harmoniser either, but neither is a problem for me. Thanks to the LEDs around the dials, any changes that are made to the BEHRINGER V-Ampire's controls are become visible instantly - this is as good or even better than motorised faders. Dialling in all kinds of sounds is very intuitive and easy, but for full control over all effects settings and combinations, it's necessary to connect the BEHRINGER V-Ampire to a computer and use BEHRINGER'S (free) V-Amp Design software. The amp has several outputs, of which I find the balanced XLR-outputs the most interesting. These have an optional analog speaker simulation (BEHRINGER "Ultra-G") which can go directly to a soundboard, i.e. it's not necessary to place a mic in front of the BEHRINGER V-Ampire when playing live. Even though it has only got one 12" speaker (Jensen JCH 12/70, 8 Ohms), the power amp is actually stereo, so it's possible to add another cabinet to it, or even not use the internal speaker at all. I haven't used the BEHRINGER V-Ampire with the band yet, but I'm pretty sure that the built-in speaker will be loud enough for rehearsals or small gigs - but then I don't play death metal. Wattage numbers usually don't say that much but for the sake of completeness: Using the built-in speaker the V-Ampire delivers 1x70W (8 Ohms), using external cabinets (4 Ohms) it's 2x50W. My two main guitars are an Ibanez RG-550 and a Fame Forum III (excellent PRS copy, with two splittable humbuckers), and the BEHRINGER V-Ampire works well with both of them. The BEHRINGER V-Ampire is esssentially a BEHRINGER V-Amp 2/Pro with an added power amp and speaker, so if you know either of these boxes, you know what to expect from the BEHRINGER V-Ampire. Of course I don't like all of the 32 models, but neither do I like all "real" amps that are available. There are, however, *many* models that suit my playing. For funk/soul I mostly use clean and mildly distorted sounds, and the "Clean V-Amp", "Custom Clean", "Classic Clean" and "Black Twin" models all work very well in this context. For soloing and rock stuff I use high-gain sounds, and I particularly like the "Ultimate V-Amp", "Modern Hi-Gain" and "Custom Hi-Gain" models. In my opinion, most models respond very well to my playing, and different guitars also sound different when played through the BEHRINGER V-Ampire. The built-in speaker sounds open and direct and transports the characteristics of the models well. The built-in effects are just fine to my ears, although I wish that it were possible to access all effects combinations without having to have a computer nearby. The analog speaker simulation on the XLR-outs does a good job of making the BEHRINGER V-Ampire's sound availble to a PA. The point of having an analog simulation is that the BEHRINGER V-Ampire already has a guitar speaker, so that it doesn't make sense to send all signals through a digital speaker simulation first (although this *can* be done as well). Signals that go directly to the board, however, need a speaker simulation, and for those the analog speaker emulation is there. As I have said, I've only had the BEHRINGER V-Ampire for about 2 weeks, so I can't really say how reliable it is. It surely seems to be rugged and roadworthy, but I'll have to do a few gigs with it before I can further comment on this point. As far as backups are concerned: Since I already have a BEHRINGER V-Amp 2, it's easy enough for me to take a it with me as back-up and go directly into the soundboard, should the BEHRINGER V-Ampire decide to stop working for some reason. Prior to buying the BEHRINGER V-Ampire, I have sent them several e-mails and called them, and they have always been helpful and friendly. Of course the real question is what happens if I need my BEHRINGER V-Ampire repaired, and since that hasn't happened yet, I can't comment. Warranty is two years, and I live in Germany, so finding an authorised service center shouldn't be a problem. I have been playing for 16 years, and I have tried quite a bit of equipment in that time. One of my reasons for buying a BEHRINGER V-Ampire was that it can deliver lots of usable sounds in one small packed, thus saving me the hassle of lugging around and setting up the rack gear that I had been using for the past couple of years. I have looked at quite a number of modeling amps because I wanted something versatile. I liked the Zentera and the Vetta, but both of them are grossly overpriced in my opinion. The Vox Valvetronix (don't remember which one) wasn't bad either, but I didn't find it nearly as impressive as some people seem to do. One thing that I dislike about most modelling amps (including ZenAmp and Flextones) is that looking at the amp doesn't tell you anything about its settings, and the BEHRINGER V-Ampire (as well as the BEHRINGER V-Amp 2/Pro) solves this problem elagantly - and besides, all these red LEDs will look impressive on stage. g One thing that I haven't mentioned is price: The BEHRINGER V-Ampire costs considerably less than most (if not all) other modelling amps. Of course this wouldn't mean a thing if the sound wasn't there, but since it is I would defnitely suggest taking a close look at the BEHRINGERV-Ampire if you're shopping for a versatible and portable amp. |
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Guitar Player wrote:
I just bought a BEHRINGER Vampire and I would like to share my impressions: The Behringer V-Ampire is brand new (released September 2003) and I've only had it for a liitle over two weeks, but since there isn't any review yet, I thought I'd share my thoughts anyway. I have been a very happy user of the BEHRINGER V-Amp 2 for 1 1/2 years though, so getting started on the BEHRINGER V-Ampire was very easy for me. Same originating address as the Behringer guitar amp ad earlier. Do you somehow get the notion that someone at Behringer has just heard about "viral marketing" and decided to try it without really understanding how it works? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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The only explanation for this post, that I can think of, is that you
truly hate B******** stuff and want everybody to do so .. -jp |
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We believe you. No, really.
Now...please go away. George Reiswig Song of the River Music "Guitar Player" wrote in message m... Hi I just bought a BEHRINGER Vampire and I would like to share my impressions: The Behringer V-Ampire is brand new (released September 2003) and I've only had it for a liitle over two weeks, but since there isn't any review yet, I thought I'd share my thoughts anyway. I have been a very happy user of the BEHRINGER V-Amp 2 for 1 1/2 years though, so getting started on the BEHRINGER V-Ampire was very easy for me. It's a modelling combo with 32 amp models and all the usual effects (compressor, wah/auto-wah, chorus, phaser, flanger, rotary, delay, reverb), so it's as versatile as an amp can get. My band plays funk/soul covers, but I also play quite a bit of rock guitar, and the BEHRINGER V-Ampire gives me all the sounds that I will need for the songs we play. One addtional effect that I would like to have is an acoustic simulation (as in the BEHRINGER Bass V-Amp) because it might come in handy live, and there isn't a harmoniser either, but neither is a problem for me. Thanks to the LEDs around the dials, any changes that are made to the BEHRINGER V-Ampire's controls are become visible instantly - this is as good or even better than motorised faders. Dialling in all kinds of sounds is very intuitive and easy, but for full control over all effects settings and combinations, it's necessary to connect the BEHRINGER V-Ampire to a computer and use BEHRINGER'S (free) V-Amp Design software. The amp has several outputs, of which I find the balanced XLR-outputs the most interesting. These have an optional analog speaker simulation (BEHRINGER "Ultra-G") which can go directly to a soundboard, i.e. it's not necessary to place a mic in front of the BEHRINGER V-Ampire when playing live. Even though it has only got one 12" speaker (Jensen JCH 12/70, 8 Ohms), the power amp is actually stereo, so it's possible to add another cabinet to it, or even not use the internal speaker at all. I haven't used the BEHRINGER V-Ampire with the band yet, but I'm pretty sure that the built-in speaker will be loud enough for rehearsals or small gigs - but then I don't play death metal. Wattage numbers usually don't say that much but for the sake of completeness: Using the built-in speaker the V-Ampire delivers 1x70W (8 Ohms), using external cabinets (4 Ohms) it's 2x50W. My two main guitars are an Ibanez RG-550 and a Fame Forum III (excellent PRS copy, with two splittable humbuckers), and the BEHRINGER V-Ampire works well with both of them. The BEHRINGER V-Ampire is esssentially a BEHRINGER V-Amp 2/Pro with an added power amp and speaker, so if you know either of these boxes, you know what to expect from the BEHRINGER V-Ampire. Of course I don't like all of the 32 models, but neither do I like all "real" amps that are available. There are, however, *many* models that suit my playing. For funk/soul I mostly use clean and mildly distorted sounds, and the "Clean V-Amp", "Custom Clean", "Classic Clean" and "Black Twin" models all work very well in this context. For soloing and rock stuff I use high-gain sounds, and I particularly like the "Ultimate V-Amp", "Modern Hi-Gain" and "Custom Hi-Gain" models. In my opinion, most models respond very well to my playing, and different guitars also sound different when played through the BEHRINGER V-Ampire. The built-in speaker sounds open and direct and transports the characteristics of the models well. The built-in effects are just fine to my ears, although I wish that it were possible to access all effects combinations without having to have a computer nearby. The analog speaker simulation on the XLR-outs does a good job of making the BEHRINGER V-Ampire's sound availble to a PA. The point of having an analog simulation is that the BEHRINGER V-Ampire already has a guitar speaker, so that it doesn't make sense to send all signals through a digital speaker simulation first (although this *can* be done as well). Signals that go directly to the board, however, need a speaker simulation, and for those the analog speaker emulation is there. As I have said, I've only had the BEHRINGER V-Ampire for about 2 weeks, so I can't really say how reliable it is. It surely seems to be rugged and roadworthy, but I'll have to do a few gigs with it before I can further comment on this point. As far as backups are concerned: Since I already have a BEHRINGER V-Amp 2, it's easy enough for me to take a it with me as back-up and go directly into the soundboard, should the BEHRINGER V-Ampire decide to stop working for some reason. Prior to buying the BEHRINGER V-Ampire, I have sent them several e-mails and called them, and they have always been helpful and friendly. Of course the real question is what happens if I need my BEHRINGER V-Ampire repaired, and since that hasn't happened yet, I can't comment. Warranty is two years, and I live in Germany, so finding an authorised service center shouldn't be a problem. I have been playing for 16 years, and I have tried quite a bit of equipment in that time. One of my reasons for buying a BEHRINGER V-Ampire was that it can deliver lots of usable sounds in one small packed, thus saving me the hassle of lugging around and setting up the rack gear that I had been using for the past couple of years. I have looked at quite a number of modeling amps because I wanted something versatile. I liked the Zentera and the Vetta, but both of them are grossly overpriced in my opinion. The Vox Valvetronix (don't remember which one) wasn't bad either, but I didn't find it nearly as impressive as some people seem to do. One thing that I dislike about most modelling amps (including ZenAmp and Flextones) is that looking at the amp doesn't tell you anything about its settings, and the BEHRINGER V-Ampire (as well as the BEHRINGER V-Amp 2/Pro) solves this problem elagantly - and besides, all these red LEDs will look impressive on stage. g One thing that I haven't mentioned is price: The BEHRINGER V-Ampire costs considerably less than most (if not all) other modelling amps. Of course this wouldn't mean a thing if the sound wasn't there, but since it is I would defnitely suggest taking a close look at the BEHRINGERV-Ampire if you're shopping for a versatible and portable amp. |
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Man I'm going to get me one of dem vampiers and git rit of mah Tech 21.
Whut wuz I thinkin? Jim M Guitar Player wrote: Hi I just bought a BEHRINGER Vampire and I would like to share my impressions: The Behringer V-Ampire is brand new (released September 2003) and I've only had it for a liitle over two weeks, but since there isn't any review yet, I thought I'd share my thoughts anyway. I have been a very happy user of the BEHRINGER V-Amp 2 for 1 1/2 years though, so getting started on the BEHRINGER V-Ampire was very easy for me. It's a modelling combo with 32 amp models and all the usual effects (compressor, wah/auto-wah, chorus, phaser, flanger, rotary, delay, reverb), so it's as versatile as an amp can get. My band plays funk/soul covers, but I also play quite a bit of rock guitar, and the BEHRINGER V-Ampire gives me all the sounds that I will need for the songs we play. One addtional effect that I would like to have is an acoustic simulation (as in the BEHRINGER Bass V-Amp) because it might come in handy live, and there isn't a harmoniser either, but neither is a problem for me. Thanks to the LEDs around the dials, any changes that are made to the BEHRINGER V-Ampire's controls are become visible instantly - this is as good or even better than motorised faders. Dialling in all kinds of sounds is very intuitive and easy, but for full control over all effects settings and combinations, it's necessary to connect the BEHRINGER V-Ampire to a computer and use BEHRINGER'S (free) V-Amp Design software. The amp has several outputs, of which I find the balanced XLR-outputs the most interesting. These have an optional analog speaker simulation (BEHRINGER "Ultra-G") which can go directly to a soundboard, i.e. it's not necessary to place a mic in front of the BEHRINGER V-Ampire when playing live. Even though it has only got one 12" speaker (Jensen JCH 12/70, 8 Ohms), the power amp is actually stereo, so it's possible to add another cabinet to it, or even not use the internal speaker at all. I haven't used the BEHRINGER V-Ampire with the band yet, but I'm pretty sure that the built-in speaker will be loud enough for rehearsals or small gigs - but then I don't play death metal. Wattage numbers usually don't say that much but for the sake of completeness: Using the built-in speaker the V-Ampire delivers 1x70W (8 Ohms), using external cabinets (4 Ohms) it's 2x50W. My two main guitars are an Ibanez RG-550 and a Fame Forum III (excellent PRS copy, with two splittable humbuckers), and the BEHRINGER V-Ampire works well with both of them. The BEHRINGER V-Ampire is esssentially a BEHRINGER V-Amp 2/Pro with an added power amp and speaker, so if you know either of these boxes, you know what to expect from the BEHRINGER V-Ampire. Of course I don't like all of the 32 models, but neither do I like all "real" amps that are available. There are, however, *many* models that suit my playing. For funk/soul I mostly use clean and mildly distorted sounds, and the "Clean V-Amp", "Custom Clean", "Classic Clean" and "Black Twin" models all work very well in this context. For soloing and rock stuff I use high-gain sounds, and I particularly like the "Ultimate V-Amp", "Modern Hi-Gain" and "Custom Hi-Gain" models. In my opinion, most models respond very well to my playing, and different guitars also sound different when played through the BEHRINGER V-Ampire. The built-in speaker sounds open and direct and transports the characteristics of the models well. The built-in effects are just fine to my ears, although I wish that it were possible to access all effects combinations without having to have a computer nearby. The analog speaker simulation on the XLR-outs does a good job of making the BEHRINGER V-Ampire's sound availble to a PA. The point of having an analog simulation is that the BEHRINGER V-Ampire already has a guitar speaker, so that it doesn't make sense to send all signals through a digital speaker simulation first (although this *can* be done as well). Signals that go directly to the board, however, need a speaker simulation, and for those the analog speaker emulation is there. As I have said, I've only had the BEHRINGER V-Ampire for about 2 weeks, so I can't really say how reliable it is. It surely seems to be rugged and roadworthy, but I'll have to do a few gigs with it before I can further comment on this point. As far as backups are concerned: Since I already have a BEHRINGER V-Amp 2, it's easy enough for me to take a it with me as back-up and go directly into the soundboard, should the BEHRINGER V-Ampire decide to stop working for some reason. Prior to buying the BEHRINGER V-Ampire, I have sent them several e-mails and called them, and they have always been helpful and friendly. Of course the real question is what happens if I need my BEHRINGER V-Ampire repaired, and since that hasn't happened yet, I can't comment. Warranty is two years, and I live in Germany, so finding an authorised service center shouldn't be a problem. I have been playing for 16 years, and I have tried quite a bit of equipment in that time. One of my reasons for buying a BEHRINGER V-Ampire was that it can deliver lots of usable sounds in one small packed, thus saving me the hassle of lugging around and setting up the rack gear that I had been using for the past couple of years. I have looked at quite a number of modeling amps because I wanted something versatile. I liked the Zentera and the Vetta, but both of them are grossly overpriced in my opinion. The Vox Valvetronix (don't remember which one) wasn't bad either, but I didn't find it nearly as impressive as some people seem to do. One thing that I dislike about most modelling amps (including ZenAmp and Flextones) is that looking at the amp doesn't tell you anything about its settings, and the BEHRINGER V-Ampire (as well as the BEHRINGER V-Amp 2/Pro) solves this problem elagantly - and besides, all these red LEDs will look impressive on stage. g One thing that I haven't mentioned is price: The BEHRINGER V-Ampire costs considerably less than most (if not all) other modelling amps. Of course this wouldn't mean a thing if the sound wasn't there, but since it is I would defnitely suggest taking a close look at the BEHRINGERV-Ampire if you're shopping for a versatible and portable amp. -- Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience. |
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My, but they're active today. -- I'm really Mike Rivers - ) However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over, lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo |
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Guitar Player wrote:
I just bought a BEHRINGER Vampire and I would like to share my impressions: No, you didn't; you been sucking marketing ass at Beri and now you're trying to rinse out in this forum. Take your hot lips back to the factory and get back to work. The boss misses you. -- ha |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
My, but they're active today. Diarrhea. -- ha |
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This is really pretty pathetic. One post of this ilk in the group is
questionable as spam. Two posts are both obvious and offensive to me. The *B* word may get added to my killfile....... |
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In this place, Scott Dorsey was recorded uttering these words:
Guitar Player wrote: I just bought a BEHRINGER Vampire and I would like to share my impressions: The Behringer V-Ampire is brand new (released September 2003) and I've only had it for a liitle over two weeks, but since there isn't any review yet, I thought I'd share my thoughts anyway. I have been a very happy user of the BEHRINGER V-Amp 2 for 1 1/2 years though, so getting started on the BEHRINGER V-Ampire was very easy for me. Same originating address as the Behringer guitar amp ad earlier. Do you somehow get the notion that someone at Behringer has just heard about "viral marketing" and decided to try it without really understanding how it works? --scott I've met the Behringer marketing people and (I think) they are smarter than that. This is possibly a very dumb dealer or a troll. Certainly not likely to promote Behringer's image round these parts. -- George Newcastle, England (Please remove leading 'NOSPAM' to reply by email) Problems worthy of attack Prove their worth by hitting back - Piet Hein |
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"Jari Pietila" wrote in message
... The only explanation for this post, that I can think of, is that you truly hate B******** stuff and want everybody to do so .. That's exactly what I was thinking. Trying a little of reverse psychology. |
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It wouldn't surprise me if this is posted by someone from Beh...
Most of their adds are just other poeples text that they've ripped off. I guess there philosophy is that if you're going to rip off someones product then you might as well go the whole hog and rip off all the marketing as well! Rik "Joe Evans" wrote in message ... This is really pretty pathetic. One post of this ilk in the group is questionable as spam. Two posts are both obvious and offensive to me. The *B* word may get added to my killfile....... |
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BEHRINGER VAMPIRE, Great !!! Nice Price
Dear all,
with regard to : (a) the posting from Sascha (SGAE1976 - BEHRINGER guitar amps, they really rock!) dtd. 26 Feb 2004 in rec.audio.pro (b) the posting from Aron Brockowich (Guitar Player - BEHRINGER VAMPIRE, Great !!! Nice Price) dtd. 26 Feb 2004 in rec.audio.pro Of course we are delighted to hear postive comments about our products from satisfied customers, and we are certain that the intentions behind these postings were only of the best possible kind. However, we insist that these specific postings do not originate from the company Behringer. These postings represent individual opinions, and we explicitly distance ourselves from the originators of these comments. The individuals from whom these postings originate have no association with the company Behringer whatsoever. We do confirm that the company Behringer is taking an active part in internet newsgroup discussions. Whenever a posting is made by an employee or associate of the company Behringer, the affiliation to the company Behringer is made clear in every case. We assure everyone here that Behringer strives to maintain a legitimate, serious approach to these discussions. Our participation is intended solely for the factual clarification of relevant "applicational" issues as raised by customers and users of our equipment. Unfortunately it appears that the synchronicity of these specific postings, perhaps combined with a little "overenthusiasm" on the part of the authors, has aroused the suspicions of other participants, and we feel that this may lead to a detrimental view of Behringer as a company, which is something which we do not accept. We hope that this can be appreciated by all. Best regards Andy Cullen Customer Support BEHRINGER Spezielle Studiotechnik GmbH (Mike Rivers) wrote in message news:znr1077838882k@trad... My, but they're active today. |
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In this place, WillStG was recorded uttering these words:
(Andy Cullen) [... snip ...] However, we insist that these specific postings do not originate from the company Behringer. These postings represent individual opinions, and we explicitly distance ourselves from the originators of these comments. Given that the following 3 threads are the extent of the contribution has made to the audio discussion here, I find your insistence he is not a shill for your company totally lacking in credibility. Perhaps you might rather wish to claim the problem is that you are totally lacking in communication skills and relating to your employees, or perhaps just really bad at managing them? Will - I know Andy personally. When he says that nobody at Behringer was responsible for those silly posts, he means it. As you should know there is a difference between "advertising" and "participating in the discussion", at least on this newsgroup Andy. If you want to come on here and expose your vast audio knowldge to the world, feel free to do so. But get rid of the BS marketing spam, it's obvious, dishonest and you will end up with more bad comments in writing here about your company and products than good - every time. I don't see any "marketing spam" or "BS" in what Andy wrote. Did I miss something? -- George Newcastle, England (Please remove leading 'NOSPAM' to reply by email) Problems worthy of attack Prove their worth by hitting back - Piet Hein |
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Rik wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me if this is posted by someone from Beh... Most of their adds are just other poeples text that they've ripped off. I guess there philosophy is that if you're going to rip off someones product then you might as well go the whole hog and rip off all the marketing as well! Think again; you really think they're so naive at Behringer marketing that they expect anyone in this newsgroup to go out and check their products after reading these blown up 'reviews'? I'm sure these posts are done by someone who hates Behringer and wants them to look bad. Unfortunately it seems to be pretty successful.. Luck, Arjan -- ----Real email: news then at then soundbyte then dot then nl---- |
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"George Perfect" wrote in But get rid of the BS marketing spam, it's obvious, dishonest and you will end up with more bad comments in writing here about your company and products than good - every time. I don't see any "marketing spam" or "BS" in what Andy wrote. Did I miss something? I know of at least one other Behringer customer support person who participates actively and on-topic as a member of a music-related newsgroup. His role in Behringer only comes out via email to address customer service issues. You'd never know from the newsgroup that he worked for Behringer, but he has been able to help customers due to his participation. Glenn D. |
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COOL!!!!!!!!! Do these things catch on fire as easily as the old Behringer
headphone amps if I accidentally plug in a set of 600ohm cans (I know, my bad-but a really spectacular show nonetheless)? Also, is there a patch that emulates the *acoustic blanket* effect of that horrid little Behringer line mixer? Finally, is there a feature where you can grab two identical volume pots and one will have only half the gain of the other? TIA, DJ "Guitar Player" wrote in message m... Hi I just bought a BEHRINGER Vampire and I would like to share my impressions: The Behringer V-Ampire is brand new (released September 2003) and I've only had it for a liitle over two weeks, but since there isn't any review yet, I thought I'd share my thoughts anyway. I have been a very happy user of the BEHRINGER V-Amp 2 for 1 1/2 years though, so getting started on the BEHRINGER V-Ampire was very easy for me. It's a modelling combo with 32 amp models and all the usual effects (compressor, wah/auto-wah, chorus, phaser, flanger, rotary, delay, reverb), so it's as versatile as an amp can get. My band plays funk/soul covers, but I also play quite a bit of rock guitar, and the BEHRINGER V-Ampire gives me all the sounds that I will need for the songs we play. One addtional effect that I would like to have is an acoustic simulation (as in the BEHRINGER Bass V-Amp) because it might come in handy live, and there isn't a harmoniser either, but neither is a problem for me. Thanks to the LEDs around the dials, any changes that are made to the BEHRINGER V-Ampire's controls are become visible instantly - this is as good or even better than motorised faders. Dialling in all kinds of sounds is very intuitive and easy, but for full control over all effects settings and combinations, it's necessary to connect the BEHRINGER V-Ampire to a computer and use BEHRINGER'S (free) V-Amp Design software. The amp has several outputs, of which I find the balanced XLR-outputs the most interesting. These have an optional analog speaker simulation (BEHRINGER "Ultra-G") which can go directly to a soundboard, i.e. it's not necessary to place a mic in front of the BEHRINGER V-Ampire when playing live. Even though it has only got one 12" speaker (Jensen JCH 12/70, 8 Ohms), the power amp is actually stereo, so it's possible to add another cabinet to it, or even not use the internal speaker at all. I haven't used the BEHRINGER V-Ampire with the band yet, but I'm pretty sure that the built-in speaker will be loud enough for rehearsals or small gigs - but then I don't play death metal. Wattage numbers usually don't say that much but for the sake of completeness: Using the built-in speaker the V-Ampire delivers 1x70W (8 Ohms), using external cabinets (4 Ohms) it's 2x50W. My two main guitars are an Ibanez RG-550 and a Fame Forum III (excellent PRS copy, with two splittable humbuckers), and the BEHRINGER V-Ampire works well with both of them. The BEHRINGER V-Ampire is esssentially a BEHRINGER V-Amp 2/Pro with an added power amp and speaker, so if you know either of these boxes, you know what to expect from the BEHRINGER V-Ampire. Of course I don't like all of the 32 models, but neither do I like all "real" amps that are available. There are, however, *many* models that suit my playing. For funk/soul I mostly use clean and mildly distorted sounds, and the "Clean V-Amp", "Custom Clean", "Classic Clean" and "Black Twin" models all work very well in this context. For soloing and rock stuff I use high-gain sounds, and I particularly like the "Ultimate V-Amp", "Modern Hi-Gain" and "Custom Hi-Gain" models. In my opinion, most models respond very well to my playing, and different guitars also sound different when played through the BEHRINGER V-Ampire. The built-in speaker sounds open and direct and transports the characteristics of the models well. The built-in effects are just fine to my ears, although I wish that it were possible to access all effects combinations without having to have a computer nearby. The analog speaker simulation on the XLR-outs does a good job of making the BEHRINGER V-Ampire's sound availble to a PA. The point of having an analog simulation is that the BEHRINGER V-Ampire already has a guitar speaker, so that it doesn't make sense to send all signals through a digital speaker simulation first (although this *can* be done as well). Signals that go directly to the board, however, need a speaker simulation, and for those the analog speaker emulation is there. As I have said, I've only had the BEHRINGER V-Ampire for about 2 weeks, so I can't really say how reliable it is. It surely seems to be rugged and roadworthy, but I'll have to do a few gigs with it before I can further comment on this point. As far as backups are concerned: Since I already have a BEHRINGER V-Amp 2, it's easy enough for me to take a it with me as back-up and go directly into the soundboard, should the BEHRINGER V-Ampire decide to stop working for some reason. Prior to buying the BEHRINGER V-Ampire, I have sent them several e-mails and called them, and they have always been helpful and friendly. Of course the real question is what happens if I need my BEHRINGER V-Ampire repaired, and since that hasn't happened yet, I can't comment. Warranty is two years, and I live in Germany, so finding an authorised service center shouldn't be a problem. I have been playing for 16 years, and I have tried quite a bit of equipment in that time. One of my reasons for buying a BEHRINGER V-Ampire was that it can deliver lots of usable sounds in one small packed, thus saving me the hassle of lugging around and setting up the rack gear that I had been using for the past couple of years. I have looked at quite a number of modeling amps because I wanted something versatile. I liked the Zentera and the Vetta, but both of them are grossly overpriced in my opinion. The Vox Valvetronix (don't remember which one) wasn't bad either, but I didn't find it nearly as impressive as some people seem to do. One thing that I dislike about most modelling amps (including ZenAmp and Flextones) is that looking at the amp doesn't tell you anything about its settings, and the BEHRINGER V-Ampire (as well as the BEHRINGER V-Amp 2/Pro) solves this problem elagantly - and besides, all these red LEDs will look impressive on stage. g One thing that I haven't mentioned is price: The BEHRINGER V-Ampire costs considerably less than most (if not all) other modelling amps. Of course this wouldn't mean a thing if the sound wasn't there, but since it is I would defnitely suggest taking a close look at the BEHRINGERV-Ampire if you're shopping for a versatible and portable amp. |
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George Perfect wrote:
In this place, WillStG was recorded uttering these words: Given that the following 3 threads are the extent of the contribution .....snip Will - I know Andy personally. When he says that nobody at Behringer was responsible for those silly posts, he means it. Did I miss something? Only the opportunity to ignore yet another mark that W.M. widely missed. :-) Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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In this place, WillStG was recorded uttering these words:
George Perfect Will - I know Andy personally. When he says that nobody at Behringer was responsible for those silly posts, he means it. George - Andy claims the postings represent "individual opinions", and couldn't possibly be from anyone trying to sell Behringer gear. If he bothered to pay the least amount of attention he'd have to admit that someone he knows or does business with could well have posted these glowing"reviews", which read like a pitch from a sales catalog. That he is so insistent they aren't from his camp is exactly what makes his claims ring so hollow, and a truly competent exec would say something like, "I'm going to look into this, as this is not our company policy". Gee Will, I never thought of it that way. I wonder why? ... -- George Newcastle, England (Please remove leading 'NOSPAM' to reply by email) Problems worthy of attack Prove their worth by hitting back - Piet Hein |
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In Article , Arjan P wrote:
Rik wrote: It wouldn't surprise me if this is posted by someone from Beh... Most of their adds are just other poeples text that they've ripped off. I guess there philosophy is that if you're going to rip off someones product then you might as well go the whole hog and rip off all the marketing as well! Think again; you really think they're so naive at Behringer marketing that they expect anyone in this newsgroup to go out and check their products after reading these blown up 'reviews'? I'm sure these posts are done by someone who hates Behringer and wants them to look bad. Unfortunately it seems to be pretty successful.. Luck, Arjan Naive, no. Nervy enough to think we'd not notice, or (in the worst case scenario) that any publicity is a good thing, sure. They get my "Janet Jackson Award" for "It was not my fault/It was an accident" marketing; Straight from the guerilla marketing handbook of marketing. Fortunately, most of here have seen spin for what it is. Nice try though. Regards, Ty Ford For Ty Ford V/O demos, audio services and equipment reviews, click on http://www.jagunet.com/~tford |
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In this place, Ty Ford was recorded uttering these words:
Naive, no. Nervy enough to think we'd not notice, or (in the worst case scenario) that any publicity is a good thing, sure. They get my "Janet Jackson Award" for "It was not my fault/It was an accident" marketing; Straight from the guerilla marketing handbook of marketing. Fortunately, most of here have seen spin for what it is. Nice try though. Ty - your prejudices are showing again. Try taking the blinkers off once in a while. I just received a reply to my email to Uli Behringer (shock, horror! the man exists and talks to people who ask him questions!). Nobody within Behringer had anything to do with the original "review" posts. Fact. Andy Cullen was authorised by Uli Behringer to post his message setting out that fact. Full stop. -- George Newcastle, England (Please remove leading 'NOSPAM' to reply by email) Problems worthy of attack Prove their worth by hitting back - Piet Hein |
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Ty Ford wrote:
Naive, no. Nervy enough to think we'd not notice, or (in the worst case scenario) that any publicity is a good thing, sure. They get my "Janet Jackson Award" for "It was not my fault/It was an accident" marketing; Straight from the guerilla marketing handbook of marketing. Fortunately, most of here have seen spin for what it is. Nice try though. I don't think the 'Any publicity is good' rule is applicable in this particular group, and certainly not with Behringer. As we've seen, Behringer employees read and lurk around here, so they must be aware of the type of audience, and also that it's not the audience to aim for to sell a $300 modeling guitar amp (not to mention the way the 'attempt' was done). If this is 'guerilla' marketing, it's one of the few occasions that guerilla warfare doesn't pay off. It just doesn't make sense, and I'm not particularly defending Behringer, I'm defending common sense and plain logic: these posts are made by someone trying to hurt Behringer. Luck, Arjan -- ----Real email: news then at then soundbyte then dot then nl---- |
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Arjan, you just saved me 30 minutes of typing. I am an employee of BEHRINGER USA. I have been posting and reading here for years - long before I came to work for BUSA. I saw this BS "review" show up on Thursday night at about 8:30pm pacific. I knew it was going to be attributed to us and it was going to look bad. That was obviously the whole point of the post. I had ignored the earlier "Behringer does it!" stuff, but now it was time to respond. I forwarded the message to Andy, who is in charge of global tech support. He's not a corporate executive, as someone criticizing his response suggested. He's a tech guy who has pride in his company, just like I do. Andy recognized the potential for backlash and immediately drafted the response you saw - confirming this was not a "viral marketing campaign" as someone had opined at the outset. That response was immediately approved by Mr. Behringer himself and it went up. We all know better than to do something like this. Please drop whatever prejudices you have in this case and realize that we respect the non-commercial nature of USENET, and we know what places like rec.audio.pro are for. I have learned a ton as a reader here over the years, and I hope to continue to do so. I also hope I can contribute by sharing what knowledge I do have. Please know that this is the full extent of our participation in rec.audio.pro, or any other online group. Thanks for your time. Jim Savery Customer Service Manager BEHRINGER USA, Inc. posting from my personal account "Arjan P" wrote in message ... Ty Ford wrote: Naive, no. Nervy enough to think we'd not notice, or (in the worst case scenario) that any publicity is a good thing, sure. They get my "Janet Jackson Award" for "It was not my fault/It was an accident" marketing; Straight from the guerilla marketing handbook of marketing. Fortunately, most of here have seen spin for what it is. Nice try though. I don't think the 'Any publicity is good' rule is applicable in this particular group, and certainly not with Behringer. As we've seen, Behringer employees read and lurk around here, so they must be aware of the type of audience, and also that it's not the audience to aim for to sell a $300 modeling guitar amp (not to mention the way the 'attempt' was done). If this is 'guerilla' marketing, it's one of the few occasions that guerilla warfare doesn't pay off. It just doesn't make sense, and I'm not particularly defending Behringer, I'm defending common sense and plain logic: these posts are made by someone trying to hurt Behringer. Luck, Arjan -- ----Real email: news then at then soundbyte then dot then nl---- |
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In Article , Arjan P wrote:
Ty Ford wrote: Naive, no. Nervy enough to think we'd not notice, or (in the worst case scenario) that any publicity is a good thing, sure. They get my "Janet Jackson Award" for "It was not my fault/It was an accident" marketing; Straight from the guerilla marketing handbook of marketing. Fortunately, most of here have seen spin for what it is. Nice try though. I don't think the 'Any publicity is good' rule is applicable in this particular group, and certainly not with Behringer. As we've seen, Behringer employees read and lurk around here, so they must be aware of the type of audience, and also that it's not the audience to aim for to sell a $300 modeling guitar amp (not to mention the way the 'attempt' was done). If this is 'guerilla' marketing, it's one of the few occasions that guerilla warfare doesn't pay off. It just doesn't make sense, and I'm not particularly defending Behringer, I'm defending common sense and plain logic: these posts are made by someone trying to hurt Behringer. Luck, Arjan Remember New Coke? Marketing mistakes happen all the time and many of them defy logic. Post-It notes were the effective reuse of a failed adhesive experiment. Regards, Ty Ford For Ty Ford V/O demos, audio services and equipment reviews, click on http://www.jagunet.com/~tford |
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In Article TJ50c.432080$na.1038923@attbi_s04, "jazzman"
wrote: Arjan, you just saved me 30 minutes of typing. I am an employee of BEHRINGER USA. I have been posting and reading here for years - long before I came to work for BUSA. I saw this BS "review" show up on Thursday night at about 8:30pm pacific. I knew it was going to be attributed to us and it was going to look bad. That was obviously the whole point of the post. I had ignored the earlier "Behringer does it!" stuff, but now it was time to respond. I forwarded the message to Andy, who is in charge of global tech support. He's not a corporate executive, as someone criticizing his response suggested. He's a tech guy who has pride in his company, just like I do. Andy recognized the potential for backlash and immediately drafted the response you saw - confirming this was not a "viral marketing campaign" as someone had opined at the outset. That response was immediately approved by Mr. Behringer himself and it went up. We all know better than to do something like this. Please drop whatever prejudices you have in this case and realize that we respect the non-commercial nature of USENET, and we know what places like rec.audio.pro are for. I have learned a ton as a reader here over the years, and I hope to continue to do so. I also hope I can contribute by sharing what knowledge I do have. Please know that this is the full extent of our participation in rec.audio.pro, or any other online group. Thanks for your time. Jim Savery Customer Service Manager BEHRINGER USA, Inc. posting from my personal account Nice post Jim. Thanks for clearing the air. Let the healing begin. But as we do, perhaps you can provide us some backstory on the offending posters. Regards, Ty Ford For Ty Ford V/O demos, audio services and equipment reviews, click on http://www.jagunet.com/~tford |
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"WillStG" wrote in message ... Given that the following 3 threads are the extent of the contribution has made to the audio discussion here, I find your insistence he is not a shill for your company totally lacking in credibility. Perhaps you might rather wish to claim the problem is that you are totally lacking in communication skills and relating to your employees, or perhaps just really bad at managing them? Although the latter may or may not be true I see no reason not to take Mr. Cullen at face value. Or do you know something I don't? Additionally, Behr. has no reason to spam RAP. jb |
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Ty Ford wrote:
Remember New Coke? Marketing mistakes happen all the time and many of them defy logic. Post-It notes were the effective reuse of a failed adhesive experiment. So now you're saying it's a mistake from Behringer marketing, while a few posts ago it was their 'philosophy' and 'guerilla marketing' and falling under the 'Any publicity is good' idea? Not very consistent. Anyway, any religion defies logic, so believe whatever you want to, I just don't buy it. Luck, Arjan -- ----Real email: news then at then soundbyte then dot then nl---- |
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"jazzman" wrote in message
news:TJ50c.432080$na.1038923@attbi_s04... Arjan, you just saved me 30 minutes of typing. I am an employee of BEHRINGER USA. I have been posting and reading here for years - long before I came to work for BUSA. I saw this BS "review" show up on Thursday night at about 8:30pm pacific. I knew it was going to be attributed to us and it was going to look bad. That was obviously the whole point of the post. I had ignored the earlier "Behringer does it!" stuff, but now it was time to respond. I believe it was made to "slander" Behringer too. Which begs the question, "if the gear is so horrible, why do you have to try to bring it down?". Wouldn't it's horrible sound do that? So if someone has to resort to this it must mean they think Behringer has SOMETHING to offer. |
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In Article , Arjan P wrote:
Ty Ford wrote: Remember New Coke? Marketing mistakes happen all the time and many of them defy logic. Post-It notes were the effective reuse of a failed adhesive experiment. So now you're saying it's a mistake from Behringer marketing, while a few posts ago it was their 'philosophy' and 'guerilla marketing' and falling under the 'Any publicity is good' idea? Not very consistent. Anyway, any religion defies logic, so believe whatever you want to, I just don't buy it. Luck, Arjan You're the one spinnin religious yarns there Mr. Lucky. You and your fake email ID. Fortunately, I don't have to care if you buy it or not. Fortunately, I have an ECM 8000 here that some have been raving about. I'll get back to you with what I find. Regards, Ty Ford For Ty Ford V/O demos, audio services and equipment reviews, click on http://www.jagunet.com/~tford |
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Ty Ford wrote:
You're the one spinnin religious yarns there Mr. Lucky. You and your fake email ID. Ah, lost the argument by running out of sensible thoughts on the subject so you figured; let's take things personal? My name is not Lucky but Paauw if you really wanna know, and in my signature my real email address is perfectly clear to anyone. Except the bots looking for addresses to spam, which is where the fake thing goes, as you ofcourse know. To be honest, I couldn't care less whether Ty Ford or anyone believes these posts came from Behringer or Behringer haters. But if people start taking these believes to the group and sell them as fact without any proper argument, I just wanna see common sense given some credit. Not people spilling their beans about whatever it was in the past that ticked them off by a certain company. Fortunately, I have an ECM 8000 here that some have been raving about. I'll get back to you with what I find. Don't worry, got that mic myself, and a Behringer review by someone as biased on the company as yourself is the last thing I need anyway. Luck, Arjan -- ----Real email: news then at then soundbyte then dot then nl---- |
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In Article , Arjan P wrote:
Ty Ford wrote: You're the one spinnin religious yarns there Mr. Lucky. You and your fake email ID. Ah, lost the argument by running out of sensible thoughts on the subject so you figured; let's take things personal? My name is not Lucky but Paauw if you really wanna know, and in my signature my real email address is perfectly clear to anyone. Except the bots looking for addresses to spam, which is where the fake thing goes, as you ofcourse know. Were you to attach a signature and were your real name and address be present, I wouldn't have had to point it out to you. To be honest, I couldn't care less whether Ty Ford or anyone believes these posts came from Behringer or Behringer haters. But if people start taking these believes to the group and sell them as fact without any proper argument, I just wanna see common sense given some credit. Not people spilling their beans about whatever it was in the past that ticked them off by a certain company. Your ability to fabricate apparently extends farther than previously imagined. Fortunately, I have an ECM 8000 here that some have been raving about. I'll get back to you with what I find. Don't worry, got that mic myself, and a Behringer review by someone as biased on the company as yourself is the last thing I need anyway. I'm sure, but thanks for stepping out of the wings anyway. We can all expect you to be beating the drum for a certain company in the future and give that performance the weight it deserves. Regards, Ty Ford For Ty Ford V/O demos, audio services and equipment reviews, click on http://www.jagunet.com/~tford |
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Ty Ford wrote:
Were you to attach a signature and were your real name and address be present, I wouldn't have had to point it out to you. Sorry, English is not my first language, don't know what you're saying there. As for the rest of your reply, I don't have time to get into useless discussions on whatever people believe or not, and this group is certainly not served by the way this is developing. I have no connection to Behringer at all, and in fact, I don't like much of their stuff, but that's not to say the company sucks. Whoever you expect me to be beating the drum about in the future is your problem, and as far as I'm concerned, this thread is finished. Luck, Arjan -- ----Real email: news then at then soundbyte then dot then nl---- |
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In this place, Ty Ford was recorded uttering these words:
Were you to attach a signature and were your real name and address be present, I wouldn't have had to point it out to you. Arjan's signature line was(as ever) present in his earlier posts that you objected to. It reads: ----Real email: news then at then soundbyte then dot then nl---- which says to me that his real email address is "news at soundbyte dot nl". In any case, you didn't have to "point out" anything to him. Name calling is a cheap shot and does you no credit. Your ability to fabricate apparently extends farther than previously imagined. What - precisely - has Arjan fabricated here? You accused both Andy Cullen and Uli Behringer of lying - without the slightest whiff of supporting substance. Arjan made a perfectly civil and polite post - that just happened to diagree with your point of view. Nothing he has said here deserves the kind of character attack you launched. I'm sure, but thanks for stepping out of the wings anyway. We can all expect you to be beating the drum for a certain company in the future and give that performance the weight it deserves. Arjan simply tells it like it is. FYI, Arjan is a well respected, regular contributor to several audio groups including am4t. He is IME far from biased or prejudiced. -- George Newcastle, England (Please remove leading 'NOSPAM' to reply by email) Problems worthy of attack Prove their worth by hitting back - Piet Hein |
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Perfect You accused both Andy Cullen and Uli Behringer of lying - without the slightest whiff of supporting substance. No I didn't. Nothing he has said here deserves the kind of character attack you launched. I launched nothing of the sort. I'm sure, but thanks for stepping out of the wings anyway. We can all expect you to be beating the drum for a certain company in the future and give that performance the weight it deserves. Arjan simply tells it like it is. As do I. Regards, Ty Ford For Ty Ford V/O demos, audio services and equipment reviews, click on http://www.jagunet.com/~tford |
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