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Question For Ludovic
Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the
audible bandwidth would sound alike? |
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Question For Ludovic
wrote in message nk.net... Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the audible bandwidth would sound alike? There are too many other factors for this to be relevant. Frequency response is only one of many factors. |
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ABX=NFG
wrote in message nk.net... Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the audible bandwidth would sound alike? And by the way, ABX=NFG |
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The Bug Eater tries a new "debating trade" tactic -- the transparently loaded question. Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the audible bandwidth would sound alike? Everything sounds alike to you, Mikey. Shall we talk about you and your morass of incurable dumbness? .. .. .. |
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"George Middius" wrote in message ... The Bug Eater tries a new "debating trade" tactic -- the transparently loaded question. Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the audible bandwidth would sound alike? Everything sounds alike to you, Mikey. Well your posts all seem alike. Audio systems have a varienty of different speakers and sources which frequently sound different. Shall we talk about you and your morass of incurable dumbness? What do you mean we? You seem to talk to yourself and make proclamations based on your own flawed conclusions. How about you George? Do think it's possible that when audio equipment measures closely enough, it's possible that they sond alike? . . . |
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Mikey obsesses on Bob's sexual power
wrote in message nk.net... "George Middius" wrote in message ... The Bug Eater tries a new "debating trade" tactic -- the transparently loaded question. Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the audible bandwidth would sound alike? Everything sounds alike to you, Mikey. Well your posts all seem alike. Audio systems have a varienty of different speakers and sources which frequently sound different. Shall we talk about you and your morass of incurable dumbness? What do you mean we? You seem to talk to yourself and make proclamations based on your own flawed conclusions. How about you George? Do think it's possible that when audio equipment measures closely enough, it's possible that they sond alike? Mikey, why have you always wished I was impotent? |
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"George Middius" wrote in
message The Bug Eater tries a new "debating trade" tactic -- the transparently loaded question. Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the audible bandwidth would sound alike? Everything sounds alike to you, Mikey. Shall we talk about you and your morass of incurable dumbness? Yet another one of George's desperate attempts to win the title of "RAO's Meanest Girl". |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "George Middius" wrote in message The Bug Eater tries a new "debating trade" tactic -- the transparently loaded question. Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the audible bandwidth would sound alike? Everything sounds alike to you, Mikey. Shall we talk about you and your morass of incurable dumbness? Yet another one of George's desperate attempts to win the title of "RAO's Meanest Girl". Desparately trying to stick his fingers in his ears and shout loudly, lalalalalalalalalalalalalala, in order to drown out any idea that he doesn't want to deal with. I'm just trying to see if there's any common ground on the notion that it is poossible for different brands of gear to sound the same for any reason. Perhaps there is some number that Ludo feels confident enough about that he would concede the possibility that things can sound alike when they reach that level. BTW, does TN have anything to say about the differences between his subwoofer research and Harman's that would account for the apparent differnces in recomendations for placement of subwoofers? |
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ABX=NFG
wrote in message nk.net... "Arny Krueger" wrote in message . .. "George Middius" wrote in message The Bug Eater tries a new "debating trade" tactic -- the transparently loaded question. Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the audible bandwidth would sound alike? Everything sounds alike to you, Mikey. Shall we talk about you and your morass of incurable dumbness? Yet another one of George's desperate attempts to win the title of "RAO's Meanest Girl". Desparately trying to stick his fingers in his ears and shout loudly, lalalalalalalalalalalalalala, in order to drown out any idea that he doesn't want to deal with. Not at all, Mikey. Ludovic has come to the truth of the matter, which is that ABX=NFG |
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Question For Ludovic
wrote in message oups.com... wrote: Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the audible bandwidth would sound alike? No personal experimental evidence but at a guess some would , some would not. Just like pianos, flutes, violins etc. They're not the same as pianos and flutes or violins, since they depend on much different factors to get their sound but then you knew that. Next idiot question.? Always willing to oblige. Ludovic Mirabel. To demonstrate your idiocy? Obviously. Musical instrument are not the same as electronics and are dependent on materials, method of construction, sometimes even the placce they are built. Audio equipment depend on the parts being properly assembled. It doesn't matter if they are made in German, Thailand, China, or Ohio. Is there some level of accuracy, that if met by 2 or more components would make it possible for them to sound the same? |
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Question For Ludovic
wrote in message .net... Musical instrument are not the same as electronics and are dependent on materials, method of construction, sometimes even the placce they are built. Audio equipment depend on the parts being properly assembled. It doesn't matter if they are made in German, Thailand, China, or Ohio. You are saying that materials and method of construction do not make a difference in electronics? |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message news wrote in message .net... Musical instrument are not the same as electronics and are dependent on materials, method of construction, sometimes even the placce they are built. Audio equipment depend on the parts being properly assembled. It doesn't matter if they are made in German, Thailand, China, or Ohio. You are saying that materials and method of construction do not make a difference in electronics? Not in the same way. Using the same components to build an amp in China won't make it sound different that one using the same parts in Cleveland, the way it might with a violin. |
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Question For Ludovic
wrote in message .net... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message news wrote in message .net... Musical instrument are not the same as electronics and are dependent on materials, method of construction, sometimes even the placce they are built. Audio equipment depend on the parts being properly assembled. It doesn't matter if they are made in German, Thailand, China, or Ohio. You are saying that materials and method of construction do not make a difference in electronics? Not in the same way. Using the same components to build an amp in China won't make it sound different that one using the same parts in Cleveland, the way it might with a violin. It very well might make a difference, and I am not talking climate, "At least" not in the meteorological sense. |
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"Clyde Slick" wrote in message
news wrote in message .net... Musical instrument are not the same as electronics and are dependent on materials, method of construction, sometimes even the placce they are built. Audio equipment depend on the parts being properly assembled. It doesn't matter if they are made in German, Thailand, China, or Ohio. You are saying that materials and method of construction do not make a difference in electronics? It's a fact that in general, the same materials and the same methods of construction are available all over the world. I was recently looking at a piece of complex professional electronics that has been manufactured in Washington state for years, but is now made in China. The fit and finish of the Chinese-made product is superior. Furthermore the product that was manufactured in Washington is well-known to have had some serious quality problems that now appear to be resolved. |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Clyde Slick" wrote in message news wrote in message .net... Musical instrument are not the same as electronics and are dependent on materials, method of construction, sometimes even the placce they are built. Audio equipment depend on the parts being properly assembled. It doesn't matter if they are made in German, Thailand, China, or Ohio. You are saying that materials and method of construction do not make a difference in electronics? It's a fact that in general, the same materials and the same methods of construction are available all over the world. That one 'has' the same choices does not mean that one 'makes' the same choices. |
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wrote in message ups.com... wrote: wrote in message oups.com... wrote: Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the audible bandwidth would sound alike? No personal experimental evidence but at a guess some would , some would not. Just like pianos, flutes, violins etc. They're not the same as pianos and flutes or violins, since they depend on much different factors to get their sound but then you knew that. Next idiot question.? Always willing to oblige. Ludovic Mirabel. To demonstrate your idiocy? Obviously. Musical instrument are not the same as electronics and are dependent on materials, method of construction, sometimes even the placce they are built. Audio equipment depend on the parts being properly assembled. It doesn't matter if they are made in German, Thailand, China, or Ohio. Is there some level of accuracy, that if met by 2 or more components would make it possible for them to sound the same? __________________________________________________ _____________ Musical instrument are not the same as electronics and are dependent on materials, method of construction, sometimes even the placce they are built. That must make it a cinch for blind testing expert like you to tell one Bosendoerfer from another. Especially if you use that method for recognising subtle differnces that has no superior relative called ABX.. Will you begin training now? How about something easy to begin with. ABX test of Yamaha piano vs. a Bosendorfer. NYOB- at one time a thought you were something like a wasp buzzing around one's head. I changed my view now. You start my mornings on the right foot, gaily. Please, don't quit. Don't let the nasties discourage you. You're my one and only NYOB, the representative objectivist spokesman. Long may you thrive waving the chapel's flag Ludovic Mirabel I guess this means you can't honestly answer the question, so you're dancing away from it. One more time: Is there a level of accuracy that if met, would allow 2 or more components to sound the same? |
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Question For Ludovic
wrote: wrote in message ups.com... wrote: wrote in message oups.com... wrote: Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the audible bandwidth would sound alike? No personal experimental evidence but at a guess some would , some would not. Just like pianos, flutes, violins etc. They're not the same as pianos and flutes or violins, since they depend on much different factors to get their sound but then you knew that. Next idiot question.? Always willing to oblige. Ludovic Mirabel. To demonstrate your idiocy? Obviously. Musical instrument are not the same as electronics and are dependent on materials, method of construction, sometimes even the placce they are built. Audio equipment depend on the parts being properly assembled. It doesn't matter if they are made in German, Thailand, China, or Ohio. Is there some level of accuracy, that if met by 2 or more components would make it possible for them to sound the same? __________________________________________________ _____________ Musical instrument are not the same as electronics and are dependent on materials, method of construction, sometimes even the placce they are built. That must make it a cinch for blind testing expert like you to tell one Bosendoerfer from another. Especially if you use that method for recognising subtle differnces that has no superior relative called ABX.. Will you begin training now? How about something easy to begin with. ABX test of Yamaha piano vs. a Bosendorfer. NYOB- at one time a thought you were something like a wasp buzzing around one's head. I changed my view now. You start my mornings on the right foot, gaily. Please, don't quit. Don't let the nasties discourage you. You're my one and only NYOB, the representative objectivist spokesman. Long may you thrive waving the chapel's flag Ludovic Mirabel I guess this means you can't honestly answer the question, so you're dancing away from it. One more time: Is there a level of accuracy that if met, would allow 2 or more components to sound the same? Define "accuracy" Let's see if the world agrees with you.. Some components will sound the same whatever your definition is. Some won't. It is still an idiot question. Ludovic Mirabel |
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wrote in message k.net... wrote in message oups.com... wrote: Is it possible that audio devices that measure within .1 db across the audible bandwidth would sound alike? I should add that it all depends who is listening.. To some everything will sound the same at 20 db difference. L.M Because of what? You are one such person. You are completely unaware of the richer audio life experienced by people with better perception. |
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Question For Ludovic
Robert Morein said to duh-Mikey: You are completely unaware of the richer audio life experienced by people with better perception. That's only the beginning of what duh-Mikey is not aware of. He's too stupid to grasp the fundamentals of the marketplace. His pea-brain simply cannot conceive the possibility that some people don't care whether an amp costs $500 or $5000. |
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"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote in message ... Robert Morein said to duh-Mikey: So nice that I've killfiled him. You are completely unaware of the richer audio life experienced by people with better perception. And that's one of the reasons why, he keeps repeating the same stupid ****ing lie. That's only the beginning of what duh-Mikey is not aware of. He's too stupid to grasp the fundamentals of the marketplace. Now it's your turn, George the Audio Idiot. His pea-brain simply cannot conceive the possibility that some people don't care whether an amp costs $500 or $5000. That much is obvious, otherwise they wouldn't make the damn things. That doesn't mean that people should buy them. People who buy expensive audio gear are welcome to do it, it's just that they ought to be aware that they don't get better sound because of it. This is one of those things that no matter how many ****ing times I repeat it you act like I never said it. You really are stupider than you want people to think I am. |
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