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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 18:36:24 -0600, "WindsorFox[SS]"
wrote: Bob Ward wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:35:00 -0500, Alex Rodriguez wrote: In article , says... Don't buy an iPod, Alex - obviously you are too ****ing stupid to be able to use it anyway.. Of course, in that case, you'd never know whether the battery needs replacing in any event. I don't need an idiots advice to tell me not to buy an ipod. As stupid as you imagine me to be, I'm smart to know better than to buy a device that costs more than comparable devices and then expects me to toss it or pay an outrageous amount of money to swap out a battery. -------------- Alex The fact that it costs more would not be the determining factor in my decision. The manufacturer's expectations regarding obsolescence or battery replacement would not be a deterrant either. The iPod has a pretty good reputation for being a clean, simple, elegant, and easy-to-use device, and if I were in the market for that type of device, I would probably give it serious consideration. Wow, what an ass. You are calling Alex stupid which I know to be totally untrue from several years in severeal different Usenet groups, yet you are not savvy enough yourself to provide proof to your point without the use of foul language and personal attacks. It severely lessens your credibility. I'm not calling Alex stupid for what he may or may not have posted in the past in other grooups - I'm calling him stupid for what he posted recently in this newsgroup. You have no credibility here, so your post is taken for what it's worth... damned little. |
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I overheard Bob Ward saying:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 18:36:24 -0600, "WindsorFox[SS]" wrote: Bob Ward wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:35:00 -0500, Alex Rodriguez adr5@columbia. edu wrote: In article , bobward@ email.com says... Don't buy an iPod, Alex - obviously you are too ****ing stupid to be able to use it anyway.. Of course, in that case, you'd never know whether the battery needs replacing in any event. I don't need an idiots advice to tell me not to buy an ipod. As stupid as you imagine me to be, I'm smart to know better than to buy a device that costs more than comparable devices and then expects me to toss it or pay an outrageous amount of money to swap out a battery. -------------- Alex The fact that it costs more would not be the determining factor in my decision. The manufacturer's expectations regarding obsolescence or battery replacement would not be a deterrant either. The iPod has a pretty good reputation for being a clean, simple, elegant, and easy-to-use device, and if I were in the market for that type of device, I would probably give it serious consideration. Wow, what an ass. You are calling Alex stupid which I know to be totally untrue from several years in severeal different Usenet groups, yet you are not savvy enough yourself to provide proof to your point without the use of foul language and personal attacks. It severely lessens your credibility. I'm not calling Alex stupid for what he may or may not have posted in the past in other grooups - I'm calling him stupid for what he posted recently in this newsgroup. You have no credibility here, so your post is taken for what it's worth... damned little. I'll butt in and say all you guys need to chill out. It's really a silly argument. You have different opinions--which is allowed. Move on Brian (the peacemaker) -- I'm crazy!? www.iBrian.tk __________ / |__|__| \ | .\ @ /. | thats one sick bus! | o \ / o | Email me at: Brian1 at unc dot edu http://db.etree.org/briantelope |
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Alex Rodriguez wrote: In article , says... If I had money to throw away, then I too would give it consideration. But since I do car about cost, I eliminate the models that don't give me value for my money. No problem. But I think you give far too much credence to reports of short battery life (in a product that depends on a supplier that's on the bleeding edge of development) and emphasized far too much the cost of an OPTIONAL manufacturer's charge. Even without a short battery life, but an average one, I still have problems with an item that is as expensive as an ipod and has no provisions for easy battery replacement. Some people don't care, but to me that is poor design. Good point, though I'd like to see just how hard the battery replacement is; if it's just a 15 minute job, then I'd be less concerned... -- - -Roger Tang, , Artistic Director PC Theatre - Editor, Asian American Theatre Revue [NEW URL][Yes, it IS new] - http://www.aatrevue.com |
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On 13 Jan 2004 20:57:29 GMT, (R. Tang)
wrote: In article , Alex Rodriguez wrote: In article , says... If I had money to throw away, then I too would give it consideration. But since I do car about cost, I eliminate the models that don't give me value for my money. No problem. But I think you give far too much credence to reports of short battery life (in a product that depends on a supplier that's on the bleeding edge of development) and emphasized far too much the cost of an OPTIONAL manufacturer's charge. Even without a short battery life, but an average one, I still have problems with an item that is as expensive as an ipod and has no provisions for easy battery replacement. Some people don't care, but to me that is poor design. Good point, though I'd like to see just how hard the battery replacement is; if it's just a 15 minute job, then I'd be less concerned... Here you go... enjoy! http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/a...472745,00.html |
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Alex Rodriguez wrote:
In article 1g7gh28.fnrkc21dsen00N%nospamsam.3.gkar@spamgourm et.com, says... Alex Rodriguez wrote: In article , says... The fact that it costs more would not be the determining factor in my decision. The manufacturer's expectations regarding obsolescence or battery replacement would not be a deterrant either. The iPod has a pretty good reputation for being a clean, simple, elegant, and easy-to-use device, and if I were in the market for that type of device, I would probably give it serious consideration. If I had money to throw away, then I too would give it consideration. But since I do car about cost, I eliminate the models that don't give me value for my money. Well Alex, you are going to look like a stupid ass idiot with a 5 year old Dell desktop strapped to your back. But hey, you sure won't have to worry about the battery going bad. If you like, I'll send you my white earbuds. That way from far away you'll look cool. Huh? Where did this 5 year old dell come from? You obviously haven't done your homework. Otherwise you would know that there are other players besides the ipod and the 5 year old dell. Maybe that is why you are stuck with the ipod???? Shop around a bit and you will find many players besides the ones you are aware of. I'll pass on the ear buds. I prefer good sound to what others think looks cool. ------------- I got the 5 year old Dell because from your posts I figure you are either so frugal or so dense that you would think it a good idea. But hey, maybe you think the Dell Jukebox is a good deal. Maybe it is, but don't count on transferring music often - in testing we generally crash the software or the Jukebox when doing large transfers. Now excuse me while you become just the third person in 5 years to make my usenet news plonk list. Congratulations, you have gone where even Phaedrus did - at least he was amazing and moderately intelligent. You are apparently neither. |
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R. Tang wrote:
In article , Alex Rodriguez wrote: In article , says... If I had money to throw away, then I too would give it consideration. But since I do car about cost, I eliminate the models that don't give me value for my money. No problem. But I think you give far too much credence to reports of short battery life (in a product that depends on a supplier that's on the bleeding edge of development) and emphasized far too much the cost of an OPTIONAL manufacturer's charge. Even without a short battery life, but an average one, I still have problems with an item that is as expensive as an ipod and has no provisions for easy battery replacement. Some people don't care, but to me that is poor design. Good point, though I'd like to see just how hard the battery replacement is; if it's just a 15 minute job, then I'd be less concerned... Since I'm the hardware guru of our local user's group I get lots of requests of this type. I've done quite a few. The first battery replacement took about 15 minutes because I was going slow and paying close attention. Like many techies I'm anal retentive so at each step I jotted down a note and drew a few quick sketches. The others took me less than 5 minutes. |
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Bob Ward wrote:
Wow, what an ass. You are calling Alex stupid which I know to be totally untrue from several years in severeal different Usenet groups, yet you are not savvy enough yourself to provide proof to your point without the use of foul language and personal attacks. It severely lessens your credibility. I'm not calling Alex stupid for what he may or may not have posted in the past in other grooups - I'm calling him stupid for what he posted recently in this newsgroup. You have no credibility here, so your post is taken for what it's worth... damned little. It does not matter why you use foul language or call someone stupid, the fact that you have resorted to personal attacks says that you are unable to back up your point or opinion. This includes your opinion on my credibility. Perhapse you should get together with Brian McCarty... -- Check out the gaming & computer forums at the [SS] clan site. http://www.shamikaserver.com |
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"No SPAM Sam" wrote in message news:1g7io37.41z141wo948aN%nospamsam.3.gkar@spamgo urmet.com... Alex Rodriguez wrote: In article 1g7gh28.fnrkc21dsen00N%nospamsam.3.gkar@spamgourm et.com, says... Alex Rodriguez wrote: In article , says... The fact that it costs more would not be the determining factor in my decision. The manufacturer's expectations regarding obsolescence or battery replacement would not be a deterrant either. The iPod has a pretty good reputation for being a clean, simple, elegant, and easy-to-use device, and if I were in the market for that type of device, I would probably give it serious consideration. If I had money to throw away, then I too would give it consideration. But since I do car about cost, I eliminate the models that don't give me value for my money. Well Alex, you are going to look like a stupid ass idiot with a 5 year old Dell desktop strapped to your back. But hey, you sure won't have to worry about the battery going bad. If you like, I'll send you my white earbuds. That way from far away you'll look cool. Huh? Where did this 5 year old dell come from? You obviously haven't done your homework. Otherwise you would know that there are other players besides the ipod and the 5 year old dell. Maybe that is why you are stuck with the ipod???? Shop around a bit and you will find many players besides the ones you are aware of. I'll pass on the ear buds. I prefer good sound to what others think looks cool. ------------- I got the 5 year old Dell because from your posts I figure you are either so frugal or so dense that you would think it a good idea. But hey, maybe you think the Dell Jukebox is a good deal. Maybe it is, but don't count on transferring music often - in testing we generally crash the software or the Jukebox when doing large transfers. Now excuse me while you become just the third person in 5 years to make my usenet news plonk list. Congratulations, you have gone where even Phaedrus did - at least he was amazing and moderately intelligent. You are apparently neither. Whoa! Alex makes a statement that he wouldn't buy an iPod because you have to send it in to change the battery and you and Bob go ballistic. There is some stupidity here and it's not Alex. -Tom |
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http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/a...472745,00.html Hehe, a techy page for Mac geeks, needs Windows Media Player 8-() |
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In article ,
TomH wrote: "No SPAM Sam" wrote in message news:1g7io37.41z141wo948aN%nospamsam.3.gkar@spamg ourmet.com... Alex Rodriguez wrote: In article 1g7gh28.fnrkc21dsen00N%nospamsam.3.gkar@spamgourm et.com, says... Alex Rodriguez wrote: In article , says... The fact that it costs more would not be the determining factor in my decision. The manufacturer's expectations regarding obsolescence or battery replacement would not be a deterrant either. The iPod has a pretty good reputation for being a clean, simple, elegant, and easy-to-use device, and if I were in the market for that type of device, I would probably give it serious consideration. If I had money to throw away, then I too would give it consideration. But since I do car about cost, I eliminate the models that don't give me value for my money. Well Alex, you are going to look like a stupid ass idiot with a 5 year old Dell desktop strapped to your back. But hey, you sure won't have to worry about the battery going bad. If you like, I'll send you my white earbuds. That way from far away you'll look cool. Huh? Where did this 5 year old dell come from? You obviously haven't done your homework. Otherwise you would know that there are other players besides the ipod and the 5 year old dell. Maybe that is why you are stuck with the ipod???? Shop around a bit and you will find many players besides the ones you are aware of. I'll pass on the ear buds. I prefer good sound to what others think looks cool. ------------- I got the 5 year old Dell because from your posts I figure you are either so frugal or so dense that you would think it a good idea. But hey, maybe you think the Dell Jukebox is a good deal. Maybe it is, but don't count on transferring music often - in testing we generally crash the software or the Jukebox when doing large transfers. Now excuse me while you become just the third person in 5 years to make my usenet news plonk list. Congratulations, you have gone where even Phaedrus did - at least he was amazing and moderately intelligent. You are apparently neither. Whoa! Alex makes a statement that he wouldn't buy an iPod because you have to send it in to change the battery and you and Bob go ballistic. There is some stupidity here and it's not Alex. Given that some folks are showing that changing the battery is a 5-15 minute job by the user, I can hazard a guess where it's at. Apple charging for a battery replacement operation is not particularly noteworthy; it's on the level of their charging more for additional memory. If you're not comfortable changing the battery or adding memory yourself, then Apple is happy to do it for you...for a charge. -- - -Roger Tang, , Artistic Director PC Theatre - Editor, Asian American Theatre Revue [NEW URL][Yes, it IS new] - http://www.aatrevue.com |
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"No SPAM Sam" wrote in message news:1g7io37.41z141wo948aN%nospamsam.3.gkar@spamg ourmet.com... I got the 5 year old Dell because from your posts I figure you are either so frugal or so dense that you would think it a good idea. Actually, for the times that I do listen to mp3's, a 5 year old dell would work. I keep some back ground music on while I work and my work computer, which is a Dell, but not 5 years old, works just fine. Every where else I listen to music mp3's won't do since I can hear the difference in sound quality. But hey, maybe you think the Dell Jukebox is a good deal. Maybe it is, but don't count on transferring music often - in testing we generally crash the software or the Jukebox when doing large transfers. I never suggested the Dell. I've never used it, so I can't say if it is any good or not. There are other players besides the ipod and the del unit. Now excuse me while you become just the third person in 5 years to make my usenet news plonk list. Congratulations, you have gone where even Phaedrus did - at least he was amazing and moderately intelligent. You are apparently neither. Doesn't bother me none. ---------- Alex |
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(R. Tang) writes:
Good point, though I'd like to see just how hard the battery replacement is; if it's just a 15 minute job, then I'd be less concerned... Looks pretty simple to me. See one of the following (depending on which model you have): For the older models: http://www.ipodbattery.com/ipodinstall.htm For the newer models (with the dock): http://www.ipodbattery.com/slimipodinstall.htm -- David |
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In article , David C. wrote:
(R. Tang) writes: Good point, though I'd like to see just how hard the battery replacement is; if it's just a 15 minute job, then I'd be less concerned... Looks pretty simple to me. See one of the following (depending on which model you have): For the older models: http://www.ipodbattery.com/ipodinstall.htm For the newer models (with the dock): http://www.ipodbattery.com/slimipodinstall.htm -- David Cool beans, and good stuff to know. Sorta puts it into the area of oil changes and whatnot; you can pay the dealer or you can save money by doing it yourself.... -- - -Roger Tang, , Artistic Director PC Theatre - Editor, Asian American Theatre Revue [NEW URL][Yes, it IS new] - http://www.aatrevue.com |
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In article ,
"TomH" wrote: Whoa! Alex makes a statement that he wouldn't buy an iPod because you have to send it in to change the battery and you and Bob go ballistic. There is some stupidity here and it's not Alex. Perhaps that's because Alex's statement is incorrect, as the batteries are replaceable by the user (and do not necessarily need to be sent in for this). This has been made amply clear on this thread over the last week. |
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"ClownKiller" wrote in message ... In article , "TomH" wrote: Whoa! Alex makes a statement that he wouldn't buy an iPod because you have to send it in to change the battery and you and Bob go ballistic. There is some stupidity here and it's not Alex. Perhaps that's because Alex's statement is incorrect, as the batteries are replaceable by the user (and do not necessarily need to be sent in for this). This has been made amply clear on this thread over the last week. They're replaceable by savvy users, but this is not recommended by Apple and was not designed for it. Apple designed it to not be replaced by the consumer, and expected that these batteries would last several years. Replacing the batteries for some people is no problem, but the fact is it's at least a hassle for some and an extra cost for most. Not everybody would be comfortable in taking their iPOD apart to replace a battery. Certainly it's another thing to consider when purchasing the item. -Tom |