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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
Dear experts,
I have a 97 Camry XLE with the premium sound system. Six speakers. Two rear. Two in the doors. Two tweeters near the rear view mirrors. Unfortunately, the tape and CD self destructed. so, I changed to the Alpine model CDA-9856 which allowed me to use my IPOD. Also play MP3s. It sounds awesome. Since changing it, I've since discovered that the front passenger door speaker needs replacing. It makes huge vibrating noises during certain parts of songs. I did take off the door panel, and take it to Tweeter, and they assured me it was the speaker, not something in the door. I don't want to also change the rear speakers. I'm concerned that a new set of speakers for the front will have a different tonal range, and sound than the rear. I believe that the rear speakers are JBLs. What do you suggest for this car? Another set of JBLs? Should I get the four speaker models that also include tweeters? Thanks a lot! |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
Replace the Camry with a Lexus. Then ask us what to do with it. We won't have any more helpfull ideas, but we will feel better about assuring you they are right - we just don't know about Toyotas! |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
Well speakers are pretty much personal preference.Alpine,JL,Rockford
Fosgate etc. all have great speakers.The components will make a huge SQ difference because it will be clearer and you can raise the sound stage to your ear level. So the best thing to do is go audition a bunch of different speakers and then decide based on what you liked most.Good luck! TroyT. |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
Well, your description of the car and the speaker compliment was a bit
vague. I think you are saying that you have tweeters in the sail-panels (they are near the rear-view mirrors) and midbass drivers in the doors. AND, it seems the problem is with the midbass driver, so you need to replace those. If that is the case, several things come into play. First of all (and this is in no particular order), it generally doesn't matter whether your front speakers match your rear-speakers (timbre wise, or brand wise, or size wise, etc..). The reason being that when playing MUSIC in a car, you want your rear speakers barely audible to give your music some "presence" (the term we use is "rear-fill"). The BULK of the sound (like at a concert) should seem like it is coming from in front of you. So for this reason it is generally considered not important to timbre match the front and rear speakers. In a home-theater situation, however, it's entirely different. There you DO want all your speakers to match to retain sonic continuity as the action on screen moves from one side of the room to the other. If you are planning to build a full-blown car theater with a 5.1, 6.1, or 7.1 channel surround sound processor, then obviously you WOULD want to timbre match your speakers. OK, the next thing to consider is your existing tweeters in the sail-panels (or at least I THINK you mean the sail panels). Those tweeters were obviously designed to work with the midbass drivers that came with the car so I would plan on NOT re-using those. There is obviously a crossover network somewhere that is designed SPECIFICALLY to work with the characteristics (impedances, frequency responses, sensitivities, etc.) of those two drivers (the woofer and tweeter). You simply can't just plug in a different type of woofer and expect it to work right. So it sounds to me like you need an entirely new "front stage" (not just new woofers). There are two ways to go: coaxials and separates. Coaxials are those type of speakers that contain the woofer and tweeter together, on the same "co" axis. Separates are what you had, the woofer and tweeter are mounted separately. Separates tend to sound better and cost more (there are a number of reasons for this, one of which is that they almost always use an outboard crossover network that ensures each speaker gets the frequencies it's best designed to handle). As you already have a place to mount your tweeters, this sounds like a good option for you. But my experience has been that separates tend to be less "efficient" (see the FAQ I posted if you don't know what this means) than coaxials. Many separates practically NEED the addition of an outboard amplifier to sound their best (or to sound decent at all) as their efficiency is so low and even the most powerful HU's don't have enough power. The addition of an amplifier is a good idea NO MATTER WHAT route you go, however, as an amp will increase the dynamics and bass capability of your speakers. Anyway, I hope some of this helps. Again, consult the FAQ to gain a better handle on speaker basics. MOSFET wrote in message ps.com... Dear experts, I have a 97 Camry XLE with the premium sound system. Six speakers. Two rear. Two in the doors. Two tweeters near the rear view mirrors. Unfortunately, the tape and CD self destructed. so, I changed to the Alpine model CDA-9856 which allowed me to use my IPOD. Also play MP3s. It sounds awesome. Since changing it, I've since discovered that the front passenger door speaker needs replacing. It makes huge vibrating noises during certain parts of songs. I did take off the door panel, and take it to Tweeter, and they assured me it was the speaker, not something in the door. I don't want to also change the rear speakers. I'm concerned that a new set of speakers for the front will have a different tonal range, and sound than the rear. I believe that the rear speakers are JBLs. What do you suggest for this car? Another set of JBLs? Should I get the four speaker models that also include tweeters? Thanks a lot! |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
In article om,
wrote: What do you suggest for this car? Another set of JBLs? Well, this is rec.audio.pro. I recommend you sell the car. That will give you almost enough money to get the bottom of the line Griffin monitoring speakers. They won't get you to work, but you'll hear a lot better at home where it's quiet anyway. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
mcbrue wrote: Replace the Camry with a Lexus. Then ask us what to do with it. We won't have any more helpfull ideas, but we will feel better about assuring you they are right - we just don't know about Toyotas! I have a Lexus, and the components of the sound system are so tightly integrated that you can't replace anything with other than the genuine replacement part without tearing out the whole system. There are amplifiers scatted all over the cabin. |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
replace nothing it is obvious you have blown the system just buy an IPOD, and some good headphones and learn to post to appropriate groups as I found this in the recording audio professional or buy a bose system, and have ford motor co install it maybe cheese dog will bark into this as he knows everything |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:08:09 -0700, mcbrue wrote:
Replace the Camry with a Lexus. Then ask us what to do with it. We won't have any more helpfull ideas, but we will feel better about assuring you they are right - we just don't know about Toyotas! Isn't a Lexus essentially a Toyota with leather seats? |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
Agent 86 wrote:
Isn't a Lexus essentially a Toyota with leather seats? Don't forget the gold 'L' emblem and the outrageous price tag... |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
Agent 86 quipped:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:08:09 -0700, mcbrue wrote: Replace the Camry with a Lexus. Then ask us what to do with it. We won't have any more helpfull ideas, but we will feel better about assuring you they are right - we just don't know about Toyotas! Isn't a Lexus essentially a Toyota with leather seats? you say that like it's a bad thing. |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
Alan (nospam) quipped:
Agent 86 wrote: Isn't a Lexus essentially a Toyota with leather seats? Don't forget the gold 'L' emblem and the outrageous price tag... yup, like Mercedes is to a Dodge Neon. |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
I replaced mine with JBL GTO637's, running from the stock amplifier,
and was very pleased with the results. They're three-way 6.5", and efficient enough that you don't need a bigger amp (assuming you're not into hearing loss, as some people apparently are.) |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
"Agent 86" wrote in message
news On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:08:09 -0700, mcbrue wrote: Replace the Camry with a Lexus. Then ask us what to do with it. We won't have any more helpfull ideas, but we will feel better about assuring you they are right - we just don't know about Toyotas! Isn't a Lexus essentially a Toyota with leather seats? No. |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
coming from rec.audio.car, if I were to go with anyones suggestion it would
be this one.. reason being, stock speakers are generally made much more sensitive than their aftermarket counterparts, and people have often found themselves disappointed when their stock speakers were louder than what they replaced them with, and they drive their amplifier into clipping trying to match the volume. clipping baaaaad.. high sensitivity on hu power, gooood. "Scott Schuckert" wrote in message ... I replaced mine with JBL GTO637's, running from the stock amplifier, and was very pleased with the results. They're three-way 6.5", and efficient enough that you don't need a bigger amp (assuming you're not into hearing loss, as some people apparently are.) |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
HI Scott,
Thanks for responding! I have the Camry XLE, with tweeters near the rear view mirrors. Do you also have tweeters like these, or not? Thanks again. Scott Schuckert wrote: I replaced mine with JBL GTO637's, running from the stock amplifier, and was very pleased with the results. They're three-way 6.5", and efficient enough that you don't need a bigger amp (assuming you're not into hearing loss, as some people apparently are.) |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
In article .com,
wrote: I have the Camry XLE, with tweeters near the rear view mirrors. Do you also have tweeters like these, or not? No. While I greatly prefer the XLE setup, it does significantly complicate the use of third-party speakers. What you'd want to do is purchase a component speaker system, bypass the stock crossover, and install the new speakers in the factory locations. None of this will be an exact-fit drop in, so be prepared to do a little drilling and filing. Ctutchfield (http://www.crutchfield.com) can be a significant help. Looking briefly at their page, the Infinity Reference 6010cs looks like a choice, or the JBL GTO607C In my case, I chose the very bright JBL's (with their reputation as a "Rock N Roll" speaker) because I wanted to preserve the factory appearance and would be firing the tweeter at my ankles. You could do the same to simplify installation (disabling the factory tweeters) but I'd prefer to see you do it the "right" way. Good Luck! |
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Replace door speakers in 97 Camry with which brand?
BTW, here's an interesting question.
Someone here said that they thought the speaker was blown. This is odd, because I really don't turn the stereo up that loud. And, it is only one speaker that was blown. As I mentioned, I just had the stereo upgraded to an Alpine. The Alpine is more powerful than the stock stereo. Do you think that the shop that installed it might have cranked the Alpine up, and blew the speakers on me? Thanks a lot! wrote: Dear experts, I have a 97 Camry XLE with the premium sound system. Six speakers. Two rear. Two in the doors. Two tweeters near the rear view mirrors. Unfortunately, the tape and CD self destructed. so, I changed to the Alpine model CDA-9856 which allowed me to use my IPOD. Also play MP3s. It sounds awesome. Since changing it, I've since discovered that the front passenger door speaker needs replacing. It makes huge vibrating noises during certain parts of songs. I did take off the door panel, and take it to Tweeter, and they assured me it was the speaker, not something in the door. I don't want to also change the rear speakers. I'm concerned that a new set of speakers for the front will have a different tonal range, and sound than the rear. I believe that the rear speakers are JBLs. What do you suggest for this car? Another set of JBLs? Should I get the four speaker models that also include tweeters? Thanks a lot! |
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