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"Andrew M." wrote in message
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There are NO absolute truths.


In some abstract philosophical sense within the limits of human knowledge,
that's probably true. However, if you try to live your life that way, you're
headed for all kinds of trouble.

Are Newton's laws of motion absolutely true? No, there's always relativistic
mechanics. However for virtually everything you build that people use on a
day-to-day basis, you better treat Newton's laws of motion as if they were
absolute truth, or your work will be a disaster of one kind or the other.



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I am just responding to the ridiculous JESUS reference made here. Go
thump your bible in the bible thumping forum. There are many people here
that are not christian who find your remarks offensive.

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Andrew M." wrote in message
...


There are NO absolute truths.



In some abstract philosophical sense within the limits of human knowledge,
that's probably true. However, if you try to live your life that way, you're
headed for all kinds of trouble.

Are Newton's laws of motion absolutely true? No, there's always relativistic
mechanics. However for virtually everything you build that people use on a
day-to-day basis, you better treat Newton's laws of motion as if they were
absolute truth, or your work will be a disaster of one kind or the other.




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Andrew M. said to ****-for-Brains:

I am just responding to the ridiculous JESUS reference made here. Go
thump your bible in the bible thumping forum. There are many people here
that are not christian who find your remarks offensive.


Quite right.

Although it's a little quaint to focus in on Krooger's krappy
kristianity karryings-on. To get there, you have to zip down the list,
past the pedophile fantasies, compulsive lying, epochal hypocrisy,
multitudinous types of sleazy "debating trade" garbage, and generally
being a putrid, leering sack of ****.

Nonetheless, Krooger is the worst example of "christian" behavior on
Usenet, and it's certainly OK to censure Beastie on that account.
Better would be to convince him it's time, finally, for that
long-awaited encounter with a speeding bus.......


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"Andrew M." wrote in message
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I am just responding to the ridiculous JESUS reference made here.


I am just responding to the rotten logic embedded in your hostile,
hysterical bigoted response, Andrew.

Go thump your bible in the bible thumping forum.


Did I mention the bible in this thread? No! Andrew, are you delusional or
what?

There are many people here
that are not Christian who find your remarks offensive.


My remarks in this thread were entirely non-Christian.

But the idea that Christian ideas would be offensive speaks to the
narrow-mindedness and intolerance we find with certain hysterical rabid
anti-Christian people.

For the record, I'm a Christian, but I intentionally left my beliefs out of
this discussion because I saw an opportunity to make a larger point. That
larger point is that people who are rabid anti-Christians like Middius and
"Andrew" are not the paragons of logic that they would like to think. In
fact they are just narrow-minded bigots whose alleged logic is often about
as bad as it gets. Their operative mind set appears to be hysteria.

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Andrew M." wrote in message
...


There are NO absolute truths.


In some abstract philosophical sense within the limits of human

knowledge,
that's probably true. However, if you try to live your life that way,

you're
headed for all kinds of trouble.

Are Newton's laws of motion absolutely true? No, there's always

relativistic
mechanics. However for virtually everything you build that people use on

a
day-to-day basis, you better treat Newton's laws of motion as if they

were
absolute truth, or your work will be a disaster of one kind or the

other.






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2+2=4?

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Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Andrew M." wrote in message
...

There are NO absolute truths.


In some abstract philosophical sense within the limits of human knowledge,
that's probably true. However, if you try to live your life that way,

you're
headed for all kinds of trouble.

Are Newton's laws of motion absolutely true? No, there's always

relativistic
mechanics. However for virtually everything you build that people use on a
day-to-day basis, you better treat Newton's laws of motion as if they were
absolute truth, or your work will be a disaster of one kind or the other.







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Hey guys, do you like the Denon or the Yamaha?
Clay

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There are 10 kinds of people in the world:
Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Andrew M." wrote in message
...

I am just responding to the ridiculous JESUS reference made here.


I am just responding to the rotten logic embedded in your hostile,
hysterical bigoted response, Andrew.

Go thump your bible in the bible thumping forum.


Did I mention the bible in this thread? No! Andrew, are you delusional or
what?

There are many people here
that are not Christian who find your remarks offensive.


My remarks in this thread were entirely non-Christian.

But the idea that Christian ideas would be offensive speaks to the
narrow-mindedness and intolerance we find with certain hysterical rabid
anti-Christian people.

For the record, I'm a Christian, but I intentionally left my beliefs out

of
this discussion because I saw an opportunity to make a larger point. That
larger point is that people who are rabid anti-Christians like Middius and
"Andrew" are not the paragons of logic that they would like to think. In
fact they are just narrow-minded bigots whose alleged logic is often about
as bad as it gets. Their operative mind set appears to be hysteria.

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Andrew M." wrote in message
...


There are NO absolute truths.


In some abstract philosophical sense within the limits of human

knowledge,
that's probably true. However, if you try to live your life that way,

you're
headed for all kinds of trouble.

Are Newton's laws of motion absolutely true? No, there's always

relativistic
mechanics. However for virtually everything you build that people use

on
a
day-to-day basis, you better treat Newton's laws of motion as if they

were
absolute truth, or your work will be a disaster of one kind or the

other.








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Maybe you didn't say it but someone did. Any reference to Jesus is a
reference to that work of fiction called the bible...Go tout it
somewhere else. Welcome back to the crusades...Keep your fairy tale
religion to your self.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Andrew M." wrote in message
...


I am just responding to the ridiculous JESUS reference made here.



I am just responding to the rotten logic embedded in your hostile,
hysterical bigoted response, Andrew.


Go thump your bible in the bible thumping forum.



Did I mention the bible in this thread? No! Andrew, are you delusional or
what?


There are many people here
that are not Christian who find your remarks offensive.



My remarks in this thread were entirely non-Christian.

But the idea that Christian ideas would be offensive speaks to the
narrow-mindedness and intolerance we find with certain hysterical rabid
anti-Christian people.

For the record, I'm a Christian, but I intentionally left my beliefs out of
this discussion because I saw an opportunity to make a larger point. That
larger point is that people who are rabid anti-Christians like Middius and
"Andrew" are not the paragons of logic that they would like to think. In
fact they are just narrow-minded bigots whose alleged logic is often about
as bad as it gets. Their operative mind set appears to be hysteria.


Arny Krueger wrote:


"Andrew M." wrote in message
.. .



There are NO absolute truths.



In some abstract philosophical sense within the limits of human


knowledge,

that's probably true. However, if you try to live your life that way,


you're

headed for all kinds of trouble.

Are Newton's laws of motion absolutely true? No, there's always


relativistic

mechanics. However for virtually everything you build that people use on


a

day-to-day basis, you better treat Newton's laws of motion as if they


were

absolute truth, or your work will be a disaster of one kind or the


other.






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"Andrew M." wrote in message
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Maybe you didn't say it but someone did.


Speaks to your vague connection with reality, Andrew.


Any reference to Jesus is a
reference to that work of fiction called the bible...Go tout it
somewhere else.


Shows your bigotry and hysterical state of mind, Andrew. People mention
various written works of opinion, fact, theory, poetry, stories,
prognostication, you name it; all the time and as a rule nobody goes
ballistic.

OTOH if someone should be so brave as to mention the Bible in public, it's
not uncommon for some pathetic hysterical Christian-hating bigot to fly off
the handle and say all sorts of crazy things. I suggest Andrew that you
recognize that at the very least the Bible is just another written work of
opinion, fact, theory, poetry, stories, prognostication, you name it, and
get on with the rest of your life.

Welcome back to the crusades...


Anybody who understands history knows that Christianity was a pretext for
the Crusades, not the cause. But again given your demonstrated level of
hysteria and unreason Andrew, this is probably a news flash to you.

Keep your fairy tale religion to your self.


Everybody seems to have a belief system that is partially based on reliable
facts, partially based on questionable beliefs, and mostly composed of
things that are someplace in-between. One advantage to making up your own
religion and keeping it a secret is that it's impossible for people to
accuse you of being inconsistent. We've already got people like Phillips,
Singh, Middius, and Graham who have played this card for years. Welcome to
their sorry club! You can start posting your pedophile fantasies like they
do, any time!

Tell you what Andrew, you say what you will about your belief system and I
promise to not try to attack and trash your freedom of speech like you've
tried to attack and trash mine. Or, for plan B, you could try to repeal the
Constitution of the United States of America, Article One. Probably more to
the point, you should find a good psychiatrist, explain your feelings of
panic and hysteria to him, and obtain an appropriate medication.

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Andrew M." wrote in message
...


I am just responding to the ridiculous JESUS reference made here.



I am just responding to the rotten logic embedded in your hostile,
hysterical bigoted response, Andrew.


Go thump your bible in the bible thumping forum.



Did I mention the bible in this thread? No! Andrew, are you delusional

or
what?


There are many people here
that are not Christian who find your remarks offensive.



My remarks in this thread were entirely non-Christian.

But the idea that Christian ideas would be offensive speaks to the
narrow-mindedness and intolerance we find with certain hysterical rabid
anti-Christian people.

For the record, I'm a Christian, but I intentionally left my beliefs out

of
this discussion because I saw an opportunity to make a larger point.

That
larger point is that people who are rabid anti-Christians like Middius

and
"Andrew" are not the paragons of logic that they would like to think. In
fact they are just narrow-minded bigots whose alleged logic is often

about
as bad as it gets. Their operative mind set appears to be hysteria.


Arny Krueger wrote:


"Andrew M." wrote in message
.. .



There are NO absolute truths.



In some abstract philosophical sense within the limits of human


knowledge,

that's probably true. However, if you try to live your life that way,


you're

headed for all kinds of trouble.

Are Newton's laws of motion absolutely true? No, there's always


relativistic

mechanics. However for virtually everything you build that people use

on

a

day-to-day basis, you better treat Newton's laws of motion as if they


were

absolute truth, or your work will be a disaster of one kind or the


other.








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2+2=4?

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Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!


LOL!

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Andrew M." wrote in message
...

There are NO absolute truths.


In some abstract philosophical sense within the limits of human

knowledge,
that's probably true. However, if you try to live your life that way,

you're
headed for all kinds of trouble.

Are Newton's laws of motion absolutely true? No, there's always

relativistic
mechanics. However for virtually everything you build that people use on

a
day-to-day basis, you better treat Newton's laws of motion as if they

were
absolute truth, or your work will be a disaster of one kind or the

other.







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Arny Krueger wrote:


In some abstract philosophical sense within the limits of human knowledge,
that's probably true. However, if you try to live your life that way, you're
headed for all kinds of trouble.

Are Newton's laws of motion absolutely true? No, there's always relativistic
mechanics. However for virtually everything you build that people use on a
day-to-day basis, you better treat Newton's laws of motion as if they were
absolute truth, or your work will be a disaster of one kind or the other.


But Newton's laws can be recreated and verified.



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Arny Krueger wrote:

"Andrew M." wrote in message
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I am just responding to the ridiculous JESUS reference made here.



I am just responding to the rotten logic embedded in your hostile,
hysterical bigoted response, Andrew.


Go thump your bible in the bible thumping forum.



Did I mention the bible in this thread? No! Andrew, are you delusional or
what?


There are many people here
that are not Christian who find your remarks offensive.



My remarks in this thread were entirely non-Christian.

But the idea that Christian ideas would be offensive speaks to the
narrow-mindedness and intolerance we find with certain hysterical rabid
anti-Christian people.

For the record, I'm a Christian,




LOL!

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trotsky wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Andrew M." wrote in message
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I am just responding to the ridiculous JESUS reference made here.



I am just responding to the rotten logic embedded in your hostile,
hysterical bigoted response, Andrew.


Go thump your bible in the bible thumping forum.



Did I mention the bible in this thread? No! Andrew, are you delusional or
what?


There are many people here
that are not Christian who find your remarks offensive.



My remarks in this thread were entirely non-Christian.

But the idea that Christian ideas would be offensive speaks to the
narrow-mindedness and intolerance we find with certain hysterical rabid
anti-Christian people.

For the record, I'm a Christian,





LOL!


what a surprise considering how sensitive you are to other people's beliefs.


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what a surprise considering how sensitive you are to other people's
beliefs.


Andrew, please let us know when you get over your uncontrollable hostile
reactions to other people's right to free speech.


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"trotsky" wrote in message
nk.net
Arny Krueger wrote:

"Andrew M." wrote in message
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I am just responding to the ridiculous JESUS reference made here.



I am just responding to the rotten logic embedded in your hostile,
hysterical bigoted response, Andrew.


Go thump your bible in the bible thumping forum.



Did I mention the bible in this thread? No! Andrew, are you
delusional or what?


There are many people here
that are not Christian who find your remarks offensive.



My remarks in this thread were entirely non-Christian.

But the idea that Christian ideas would be offensive speaks to the
narrow-mindedness and intolerance we find with certain hysterical
rabid anti-Christian people.

For the record, I'm a Christian,


LOL!


A nice change Singh, from your pathetic whining over the same fact for the
past several days.


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There are NO absolute truths.


If this is true, then it contradicts itself.


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they keep me sleepless at night...


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"badger" cferriola@1remove numbers2triad.rr.com wrote in message
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Hey guys, do you like the Denon or the Yamaha?
Clay


I like both of them. My advice would be the expand the list to
include some cheaper, more capable receivers that also have a good
reputation, such as Panasonic. Then peruse the instruction manuals
which are usually posted on the manufacturer's web site. This will
tell you what features the receiver has and what's missing (possibly a
phono stage.) Then make your decision.

Remember, the manufacturer is only responsible for what it says on the
spec sheet. The difference between 75W and 80W is 5W--not nothing.

Norm Strong


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isn't that the point?

brew ziggins wrote:

"Andrew M." wrote in message



There are NO absolute truths.



If this is true, then it contradicts itself.



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"Andrew M." wrote in message



brew ziggins wrote:

"Andrew M." wrote in message



There are NO absolute truths.



If this is true, then it contradicts itself.


isn't that the point?


Nice recovery from a dramatic logic slip and fall.

Trouble is, figuratively you fell and the recovery was just a cover-up for
your bad logic.


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thump thump thump....

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Andrew M." wrote in message




brew ziggins wrote:


"Andrew M." wrote in message


There are NO absolute truths.


If this is true, then it contradicts itself.



isn't that the point?



Nice recovery from a dramatic logic slip and fall.

Trouble is, figuratively you fell and the recovery was just a cover-up for
your bad logic.



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I am just responding to the ridiculous JESUS
reference made here. Go thump your bible in
the bible thumping forum. There are many
people here that are not christian who find your
remarks offensive.


FTR, you are responding to Arny. He didn't thump anything. The comment
about Jesus was in my post.

One of the nice things about unmoderated USENET newsgroups is the freedom of
expression which we all enjoy. As long as the message is on topic, side
comments about unrelated matters are perfectly acceptable. Thus you have
just as much freedom (and not any more) to object to my side comment about
my beliefs as I have to make the comment in the first place.

This is developing into an off-topic meta thread, something most people
consider more destructive than any off-topic, 8-word comment within an
on-topic post. That often happens when anyone mentions an issue that
touches the hearts or consciences of others.

C'est la USENET




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Although it's a little quaint to focus in on Krooger's krappy
kristianity karryings-on...


Hmm. I've only seen Arny post about things related to audio. I don't
recall him ever posting anything about Christianity before. Maybe I missed
something.


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Hey guys, do you like the Denon or the Yamaha?

I prefer Yamaha and Jesus. However, neither one has done anything to
promote the other. :^)


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There are NO absolute truths.

If this is true, then it contradicts itself.


That reminds me of an old joke we shared something like 45 years ago. You
would hand someone a slip of paper with the following written on the front.
"The statement on the other side of this paper is true."

On the reverse it said: "The statement on the other side of this paper is
false."

RLB


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Robert L. Bass said:

FTR, you are responding to Arny. He didn't thump anything. The comment
about Jesus was in my post.


Yes, you've shown yourself to be a deluded clown, no question. Krooger
has both the same affliction, however, and equally no shame about
admitting his anti-science superstitions in public, and on top of that
he's vile and disgusting beyond words.

I'm constantly amazed that you jesus freaks and bible-thumpers think
you should blare your stupidity to the whole world. Do you consider
yourself an advocate of science, like your demented friend Krooger
does? Your bible is nothing but an ancient text, written by people
whose knowledge of the cosmos was so primitive it didn't even include
Earth being a satellite of the Sun. If you think such a book could be
a valid explanation of the origin of life on Earth, you have a screw
loose.


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But Newton's laws can be recreated and verified.

Those things which we call "laws of science" are conclusions drawn from
observable and (usually) repeatable phenomena. If there is no God then
everything that happens is simply chance. If there is a God and if He is
omnipotent, then the "laws of science" are simply observations of the way He
usually does things.

I've experimented with Newton's laws many times. Roll too far to the left
or right while sleeping and gravity causes rapid acceleration for a brief
moment. Let go of the remote while changing channels and the same thing
happens. I have proved many of Archimedes' principles in everyday life
while moving furniture, using a screwdriver to pry open a box, etc. I have
also experimented with some of the things Jesus said and found them to be
reliable and repeatable.

Either way, Yamaha makes nice mid-priced receivers.




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Robert L. Bass said:

Although it's a little quaint to focus in on Krooger's krappy
kristianity karryings-on...


Hmm. I've only seen Arny post about things related to audio. I don't
recall him ever posting anything about Christianity before. Maybe I missed
something.


You missed 90% of Krooger's droppings.


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Yes, you've shown yourself to be a deluded clown,
no question.


Thank you very much. Have you seen a bright red wig and putty nose? I seem
to have misplaced them.

Krooger has both the same affliction, however,
and equally no shame about admitting his
anti-science superstitions in public, and on top
of that he's vile and disgusting beyond words.


Being unashamed of one's faith is considered a good thing among those who
have faith. As to Arny being vile and disgusting, I really can't say. I've
only seen him post about audio and in that regard he's knowledgeable and
seems fair minded enough.

I'm constantly amazed that you jesus freaks and
bible-thumpers think you should blare your
stupidity to the whole world.


One of the advantages of being so stupid is that I'm not particularly upset
if others disagree with my beliefs. As to the "blaring" part, that goes
with the belief system.

Do you consider yourself an advocate of science,
like your demented friend Krooger does?


I'd be more inclined to consider myself an observer of science. Since
science is a collection of observations of how things work it really needs
no advocates. Gravity seems to function equally well regardless whether I
endorse it in public.

Your bible is nothing but an ancient text...


Actually, mine was printed a few years ago. It is based on some pretty
ancient texts though.

written by people whose knowledge of the cosmos
was so primitive it didn't even include Earth being
a satellite of the Sun.


Perhaps the One who inspired the ancient texts didn't consider the orbit of
the earth to be the focus issue.

If you think such a book could be a valid
explanation of the origin of life on Earth,
you have a screw loose.


Probably more than just one, but that doesn't mean it's not a valid
explanation of life. :^)


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Yes, you've shown yourself to be a deluded clown,
no question.


Thank you very much. Have you seen a bright red wig and putty nose? I seem
to have misplaced them.

Krooger has both the same affliction, however,
and equally no shame about admitting his
anti-science superstitions in public, and on top
of that he's vile and disgusting beyond words.


Being unashamed of one's faith is considered a good thing among those who
have faith. As to Arny being vile and disgusting, I really can't say. I've
only seen him post about audio and in that regard he's knowledgeable and
seems fair minded enough.

I'm constantly amazed that you jesus freaks and
bible-thumpers think you should blare your
stupidity to the whole world.


One of the advantages of being so stupid is that I'm not particularly upset
if others disagree with my beliefs. As to the "blaring" part, that goes
with the belief system.

Do you consider yourself an advocate of science,
like your demented friend Krooger does?


I'd be more inclined to consider myself an observer of science. Since
science is a collection of observations of how things work it really needs
no advocates. Gravity seems to function equally well regardless whether I
endorse it in public.

Your bible is nothing but an ancient text...


Actually, mine was printed a few years ago. It is based on some pretty
ancient texts though.

written by people whose knowledge of the cosmos
was so primitive it didn't even include Earth being
a satellite of the Sun.


Perhaps the One who inspired the ancient texts didn't consider the orbit of
the earth to be the focus issue.

If you think such a book could be a valid
explanation of the origin of life on Earth,
you have a screw loose.


Probably more than just one, but that doesn't mean it's not a valid
explanation of life. :^)


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In alt.home-theater.misc normanstrong wrote:

"badger" cferriola@1remove numbers2triad.rr.com wrote in message
...
Hey guys, do you like the Denon or the Yamaha?
Clay


I like both of them. My advice would be the expand the list to
include some cheaper, more capable receivers that also have a good
reputation, such as Panasonic. Then peruse the instruction manuals
which are usually posted on the manufacturer's web site. This will
tell you what features the receiver has and what's missing (possibly a
phono stage.) Then make your decision.


Remember, the manufacturer is only responsible for what it says on the
spec sheet. The difference between 75W and 80W is 5W--not nothing.


But it may not be 5W either. ;

See this helpful spreadsheet, which compared mfrs spec with bench
performance

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Holl...1/ratevsac.htm




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-S.

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In alt.home-theater.misc Robert L. Bass wrote:
Hey guys, do you like the Denon or the Yamaha?


I prefer Yamaha and Jesus. However, neither one has done anything to
promote the other. :^)


Jesus never sounded as good to me as a Yamaha.



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In alt.home-theater.misc Arny Krueger wrote:

"Andrew M." wrote in message
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Maybe you didn't say it but someone did.


Speaks to your vague connection with reality, Andrew.



Any reference to Jesus is a
reference to that work of fiction called the bible...Go tout it
somewhere else.


Shows your bigotry and hysterical state of mind, Andrew. People mention
various written works of opinion, fact, theory, poetry, stories,
prognostication, you name it; all the time and as a rule nobody goes
ballistic.


OTOH if someone should be so brave as to mention the Bible in public, it's
not uncommon for some pathetic hysterical Christian-hating bigot to fly off
the handle and say all sorts of crazy things. I suggest Andrew that you
recognize that at the very least the Bible is just another written work of
opinion, fact, theory, poetry, stories, prognostication, you name it, and
get on with the rest of your life.


It is, however a written work which has has, from some poitns of view,
a vastly inordinate amount of
influence over many people's lives, including those who would rather
not be influenced by it at all. And this has gone on for centuries.

Hence the rancor.

Personally I prefer Moby Dick to the Bible. I'd like to see
more Melville refs and less references to Bibles and Jesus and such,
generally.

WHAT WOULD ISHMAEL DO?

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In alt.home-theater.misc Robert L. Bass wrote:
Yes, you've shown yourself to be a deluded clown,
no question.


Thank you very much. Have you seen a bright red wig and putty nose? I seem
to have misplaced them.


Krooger has both the same affliction, however,
and equally no shame about admitting his
anti-science superstitions in public, and on top
of that he's vile and disgusting beyond words.


Being unashamed of one's faith is considered a good thing among those who
have faith. As to Arny being vile and disgusting, I really can't say. I've
only seen him post about audio and in that regard he's knowledgeable and
seems fair minded enough.


I'm constantly amazed that you jesus freaks and
bible-thumpers think you should blare your
stupidity to the whole world.


One of the advantages of being so stupid is that I'm not particularly upset
if others disagree with my beliefs. As to the "blaring" part, that goes
with the belief system.



"Blaring' is by definition annoying, whether it comes from passing
automobiles with their subwoofers cranked, or from passing
believers with their faith cranked. It's most considerate
of others to keep it to yourself in both cases, rather than blaring.





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In alt.home-theater.misc brew ziggins wrote:
"Andrew M." wrote in message


There are NO absolute truths.


If this is true, then it contradicts itself.



Great, now smoke is coming out of my computer.

YOU ARE NOT OF THE BODY.


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"Blaring' is by definition annoying, whether it comes
from passing automobiles with their subwoofers
cranked, or from passing believers with their faith
cranked. It's most considerate of others to keep it to
yourself in both cases, rather than blaring.


Interesting. I made an 8-word side comment within an on-topic post in the
middle of a thread about Yamaha and Denon receivers. Several other folks
got very nasty in their responses, posted insults and flames. Yet you worry
that whether my comment about my personal beliefs might offend someone
else's sensibilities.


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Robert L. Bass said:

Interesting. I made an 8-word side comment within an on-topic post in the
middle of a thread about Yamaha and Denon receivers. Several other folks
got very nasty in their responses, posted insults and flames. Yet you worry
that whether my comment about my personal beliefs might offend someone
else's sensibilities.


You should have been drowned when they baptized you.




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what a surprise considering how sensitive you
are to other people's beliefs.


Although the above was directed at Arny, I'll state what I think about it.

I try to respect the beliefs of others. For example, suppose your (general
"you") beliefs require that you swing your fists through the air. As long
as your belief system does not require you to punch my nose I have no
problem with you exercising or even explaining the merits of your beliefs.

I consider it your God-given right not to believe in God. Whatever the
consequences of exercising that right may be, I won't demand that you
change. Nor will I insist that you not claim your beliefs are right and
good.

You have the right to insist that I never say one word about Jesus.
Fortunately, I also have the right to ignore your insistence. :^)


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Personally I prefer Moby Dick to the Bible.
I'd like to see more Melville refs and less
references to Bibles and Jesus and such, generally.

WHAT WOULD ISHMAEL DO?


Interesting choice of literature. One of the many undercurrents of "Moby
Dick" was the strange friendship between two of the protagonists -- Ishmael
and Queequeg -- who agreed to disagree on matters of religion.

"Their achievement of mutual tolerance, coming as it does before the
monomaniac Ahab has appeared on the scene, forms both a prelude and a
contrast to the book's main story, suggesting mixity and non-dogmatism as an
alternative to Ahab's confrontational, all-or-nothing relation to the
universe." -- CHRISTOPHER ROLLASON

Imagine what Melville might have written if he were our contemporary. :^)


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Jesus never sounded as good to me as a Yamaha.

Ah, but you've never heard His voice.


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Robert L. Bass wrote:

Jesus never sounded as good to me as a Yamaha.



Ah, but you've never heard His voice.


Isn't it on an old 78 some where? g

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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:45:03 -0400, "Robert L. Bass"
wrote:

I really can't say. I've
only seen him post about audio and in that regard he's knowledgeable and
seems fair minded enough.


You really think that the things that he's been posting about me are
'fair-minded"?

Oh wait - maybe you're only reading this on one of the groups *not*
rec.audio.opinion.

I'd suggest you taking a meander over there and see the things he's
been writing about me.

If you want to know the truth about Mr. Krueger, you'll have to go
there to see his true nature.
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