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Howard Ferstler
 
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In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed the Rane
THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had also reviewed
the THX-22 version.

I would love to have some feedback regarding these two
components.

Howard Ferstler
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El Swipo said:

In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed the Rane
THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had also reviewed
the THX-22 version.


I would love to have some feedback regarding these two
components.


Was there any plagiarism involved in either article?


GeoSynch


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Howard Ferstler
 
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GeoSynch wrote:

El Swipo said:

In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed the Rane
THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had also reviewed
the THX-22 version.


I would love to have some feedback regarding these two
components.


Was there any plagiarism involved in either article?

GeoSynch


Have you anything intelligent or productive to say about
those equalizers?

You appear to be another RAO know nothing; one who
substitutes sophomoric remarks for genuine knowledge
concerning audio. I checked through some of your older posts
and at best all I could find of any that dealt with audio
were some shopping comments about LP turntables - a
borderline defunct technology.

You need to get out more.

Howard Ferstler
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GeoSynch wrote:

Howard squawked:

You need to get out more.


... said the shut-in.

GeoSynch


Look, moron, why don't you pass on the insults and start
posting information (or even questions) about audio. Your
behavior now sets you up as your own worst enemy.

Howard Ferstler
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Howard squawked:

You need to get out more.


.... said the shut-in.


GeoSynch




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"George M. Middius" wrote:

Horace Fecklebeans screeched:

I checked through some of your older posts


How sad that you're obsessed with Usenet posts, as if they were
somehow a barometer of a person's audio knowledge.

BTW, real writers don't just understand irony, they relish using it to
make their points more poignantly.


And Middius, when was the last time you posted anything
about audio? Anything at all. I mean, you never even post
dumb-ass audio information, let along stuff that means
something. If you want to rebut Arny and me and undermine
our supposed authority, why not post intelligent and
meaningful information that contradicts what we say about
audio?

Nope, not you. Rather, you continue to behave as a buffoon.

And you nitwits wonder why high-end audio is losing ground.
It is losing ground because of you guys. No serious
individuals take you seriously, and high-end manufacturers
produce products that cater to tastes built around ignorance
and fat wallets.

Howard Ferstler
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I wrote:

Howard squawked:


You need to get out more.


... said the shut-in.


BTW, your research capabilities are as arthritic as your prose:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:...mailer.fsu.edu


GeoSynch


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GeoSynch wrote:


El Swipo said:

In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed the Rane
THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had also reviewed
the THX-22 version.


I would love to have some feedback regarding these two
components.


Was there any plagiarism involved in either article?


GeoSynch










Was all the stolen material equalized?



Bruce J. Richman



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Howie whined:

Look, moron, why don't you pass on the insults and start
posting information (or even questions) about audio.


Ok, here's a question: what percentage of your published
work is plagiarized and what percentage is not plagiarized?


GeoSynch



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Bruce J. Richman wrote:

GeoSynch wrote:


El Swipo said:


In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed the Rane
THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had also reviewed
the THX-22 version.


I would love to have some feedback regarding these two
components.


Was there any plagiarism involved in either article?


Was all the stolen material equalized?


Yeah, it was clumsily run through the Ferstler Veg-o-matic,
but, alas, it didn't get sliced-and-diced enough to fool anybody.


GeoSynch




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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message
...

...... high-end manufacturers
produce products that cater to tastes built around ignorance
and fat wallets.


everyone knows that stupid people earn more money.


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GeoSynch wrote:


Howard squawked:

You need to get out more.


... said the shut-in.


GeoSynch










Not only a shut-in, but a promoter of libel and disinformation about others -
which he glorifies and praises in his fellow sociopathic liar, Krueger.

These 2 deserve each other.



Bruce J. Richman



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GeoSynch wrote:

Bruce J. Richman wrote:

GeoSynch wrote:


El Swipo said:


In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed the Rane
THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had also reviewed
the THX-22 version.


I would love to have some feedback regarding these two
components.


Was there any plagiarism involved in either article?


Was all the stolen material equalized?


Yeah, it was clumsily run through the Ferstler Veg-o-matic,
but, alas, it didn't get sliced-and-diced enough to fool anybody.


GeoSynch










Howierd's middle name is Ronco.



Bruce J. Richman



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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
...
GeoSynch wrote:


Howard squawked:

You need to get out more.


... said the shut-in.


GeoSynch










Not only a shut-in, but a promoter of libel and disinformation about

others -
which he glorifies and praises in his fellow sociopathic liar, Krueger.

These 2 deserve each other.



Bruce J. Richman




Howard the Hack
The only part of his alleged writing that isn't plagarized is his constant
remarks about how high end is dead. Yet he keeps on hacking on about it...
It surely is true that high end died for Howard! Question is who cares and
who needs his diatribe.
Carl


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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message
...

Howierd's middle name is Ronco.



Bruce J. Richman




Yeah and his writing certainly qualifies as the "Pocket Fisherman!"

Carl




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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message
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In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed the Rane
THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had also reviewed
the THX-22 version.

I would love to have some feedback regarding these two
components.

Howard Ferstler


They're alright.

You can quote me, with proper attribution.


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"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message



Not only a shut-in, but a promoter of libel and disinformation about
others - which he glorifies and praises in his fellow sociopathic
liar, Krueger.


Whatya call a purported health care professional who doesn't know that the
major mental health facility he referenced has been closed for upwards of 7
years? Bruce Richman!


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On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:06:36 -0400, Howard Ferstler
wrote:

In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed the Rane
THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had also reviewed
the THX-22 version.

I would love to have some feedback regarding these two
components.

Howard Ferstler


If you claim that you're going to use RAO as fodder for an article as
to why such newsgroups are helping further the demise of high end
audio, why do you think that anyone would be stupid enough to give you
the ammunition. You must think that people around here are as dumb as
you.
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"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message


In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed the Rane
THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had also reviewed
the THX-22 version.


I would love to have some feedback regarding these two
components.


Rane equipment is generally well-engineered and well-built. I have quite a
bit of it. I think I started out with a ME60, and it performed will in a
home environment.

The schematic of a THX-44 can be downloaded from
http://www.rane.com/pdf/thx44sch.pdf

My own take on the THX-44 is that I want to compare it to Rane equipment I
own like the PE15 parametric and the ME30 GE30, and ME60 1/3 octave
equalizers that I own. Compared to them, the phrase "Dumbed down for
consumers" comes to mind.

BTW, the Rane equipment I own generally seems to want to last forever. In
the rare event it breaks down, its generally easy to repair. The schematics
are online, and the chassis are spacious and easy to access. Of the dozen or
so Rane pieces I've owned going back to the 1980's, I have only had to
replace a voltage regulator chip in one of them, and that was just recently.
It was a standard off-the shelf part, and replacement took less than an
hour.

At this time Rane equipment is kinda pricey, except perhaps as compared to
high end audio. The obvious question in my mind is how does the PE15S, PE15,
PE17, ME30 and ME60 shape up functionally, performance-wise, and
economically as compared to say, the far less costly similar Behringer
pieces. Behringer has historically been the brand that people love to hate,
but a number of products in their current product line are well-respected.

I also own a Behr PEQ 2200, and have checked it out pretty thoroughly and it
generally outperforms the PE15 I compared it to. I don't know how the Behr
equipment will last (only time will tell), but it retails for a fraction of
Rane prices, is readily available, and can often be found on eBay. I think I
paid about $75 for the PEQ in like-new condition in the box with manual. In
contrast, PE15s have cost me like $150 used in the past.


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"Howard Ferstler" wrote

In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed
the Rane THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had
also reviewed the THX-22 version.

Analog equalizers in high end audio (stereo) are generally
a waste of time and money. Thirty-one pots only serve to
dull out microdynamics and articulation of the human voice.
Many of the high quality pre-amps manufactured over the
last 20 years come without any bass or treble control
whatsoever, for this reason.



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torresist demonstrates his delusions:


Subject: Equalizers
From: (Bruce J. Richman)
Date: 8/12/2004 7:42 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Quackenbush is just as stupid as our favorite fat, juicy California banana
slug, but much more arrogant: ;-)


torresists wrote:


Subject: Equalizers
From: "Arny Krueger"

Date: 8/12/2004 5:16 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message



Not only a shut-in, but a promoter of libel and disinformation about
others - which he glorifies and praises in his fellow sociopathic
liar, Krueger.

Whatya call a purported health care professional who doesn't know that the
major mental health facility he referenced has been closed for upwards of

7
years? Bruce Richman!

I prefer to call him "Dr. Quackenbush". ;-)








So sayeth the anonymous McKelvy sockpuppet and Krueger clone.

Now he can go back in the toilet bowl he shares with Krueger.

Do you enjoy playing the ass on RAO, Quack-o? ;-))

Bruce J. Richman, Piles it High.
UnLicensed Psychologist, certified psychopath
OY 2543










(psychotic blather snipped because of basic lack of reality contact

Afraid tro identify yourself, whacko?

The antipsychotics aren't working very well for you, are they?

Your idiocy amuses just about everybody but you.

ROFLMAO !!!

Bye, bye - poster boy for euthanasia.

LOL !!!

Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
PY 2543 (Fllorida)


(now expected autistic response from RAO's highly conditioned anonywhacko,
torresists - let out on a weekend pass from a mental hospital, no doubt)

LOL !!!

(Lionel & Krueger say "the checks in the mail")

LOL !!!


Bruce J. Richman





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Arny Krueger wrote:


snip of demented encouragement of sockpuppets by Krueger

And your evidence for 7 years of misidentifying my identity, credentials, and
professional activities is, :Krueger?

How about trying to justify 7 years of libelous misidentifications of
professional identities on RAO, libeler?

No doubt, you'll try and lie your way out of this one also. That's all you
know how to do.

Krueger will either snip and delete the above, ignore it, or attempt make
bizarre excuses

Don't forget to publish your claims in an American print publication, Krueger.

Have you notified the legal authorities in Florida about the person
impersonating Dr.Richman? What are you waiting for?

I've already alerted both my attornies and several law enforcement officers I
know to be sure and give you all the ":help" you need.

LOL !!!!


Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.\
Licensed Psychologist
PY 2543 (Florida)
Bruce J. Richman



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Powell wrote:

"Howard Ferstler" wrote

In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed
the Rane THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had
also reviewed the THX-22 version.

Analog equalizers in high end audio (stereo) are generally
a waste of time and money. Thirty-one pots only serve to
dull out microdynamics and articulation of the human voice.
Many of the high quality pre-amps manufactured over the
last 20 years come without any bass or treble control
whatsoever, for this reason.











Powell, since you're responding to this egomaniacal windbag and libel-spewing
audio clown, please ask him to demonstrate his scientific integrity by telling
us once again about his double blind tests. As I understand it, and as most
other RAO normals understand it, they've been conclusively shown to be bogus by
several experienced audio professionals. Therefore, his writings (which may
also be at least partially plagiarized) aren't worth the toilet paper they are
written on.

I've suggested that he and Krueger, as part of their mutual love fest and
rehabilitation consider both finger painting and basket weaving. Both require
a minimm amount of social interaction and help to hide their limited
communication and social skills. OTOH, they can alway ciontinue responding to
the internal voices in their head telling them about EHEE & RAO conspiracy
theories.


Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
PY 2543 (Florida)

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Howard Ferstler wrote:

In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed the Rane
THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had also reviewed
the THX-22 version.

I would love to have some feedback regarding these two
components.


Why ?

Looks from the schematic to be a classic state-variable implementation
of an EQ.

Does it have *magic properties* ?


Graham

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Powell wrote:

Analog equalizers in high end audio (stereo) are generally
a waste of time and money.


Do you mean DSP based ones aren't ?

Thirty-one pots only serve to
dull out microdynamics


Uh ? What are *microdynamics* ?

and articulation of the human voice.
Many of the high quality pre-amps manufactured over the
last 20 years come without any bass or treble control
whatsoever, for this reason.


Are you seriously suggesting that simple bass and treble controls,
properly centred, *dull* the signal ?


Graham.


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Hereafter the trigger of Dr. Richman hystery :

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
In fact to be honset Bruce I don't like you.
Your position, your role of RAO's psychologist expert is, IMHO, totally
*biased* and *hypocrite*.
To explain you clearly my state of mind since the begining of our
exchange I think that Dave statements were "factual" without any
passion. Doing so he has exprimed the ethical and deontological reserve
that, IMHO, should be your attribute on a public forum.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bruce J. Richman a écrit :

torresists wrote:



Subject: Equalizers

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 8/12/2004 5:16 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message



Not only a shut-in, but a promoter of libel and disinformation about
others - which he glorifies and praises in his fellow sociopathic
liar, Krueger.

Whatya call a purported health care professional who doesn't know that the
major mental health facility he referenced has been closed for upwards of 7
years? Bruce Richman!


I prefer to call him "Dr. Quackenbush". ;-)









So sayeth the anonymous McKelvy sockpuppet and Krueger clone.

Now he can go back in the toilet bowl he shares with Krueger.


Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
PY 2543




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Hereafter the trigger of Dr. Richman hystery :

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
In fact to be honset Bruce I don't like you.
Your position, your role of RAO's psychologist expert is, IMHO, totally
*biased* and *hypocrite*.
To explain you clearly my state of mind since the begining of our
exchange I think that Dave statements were "factual" without any
passion. Doing so he has exprimed the ethical and deontological reserve
that, IMHO, should be your attribute on a public forum.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Torresists a écrit :

Subject: Equalizers
From: (Bruce J. Richman)
Date: 8/12/2004 7:42 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Quackenbush is just as stupid as our favorite fat, juicy California banana
slug, but much more arrogant: ;-)



torresists wrote:



Subject: Equalizers

From: "Arny Krueger"

Date: 8/12/2004 5:16 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message



Not only a shut-in, but a promoter of libel and disinformation about
others - which he glorifies and praises in his fellow sociopathic
liar, Krueger.

Whatya call a purported health care professional who doesn't know that the
major mental health facility he referenced has been closed for upwards of 7
years? Bruce Richman!


I prefer to call him "Dr. Quackenbush". ;-)








So sayeth the anonymous McKelvy sockpuppet and Krueger clone.

Now he can go back in the toilet bowl he shares with Krueger.


Do you enjoy playing the ass on RAO, Quack-o? ;-))

Bruce J. Richman, Piles it High.
UnLicensed Psychologist, certified psychopath
OY 2543




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Hereafter the trigger of Dr. Richman hystery :

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
In fact to be honset Bruce I don't like you.
Your position, your role of RAO's psychologist expert is, IMHO, totally
*biased* and *hypocrite*.
To explain you clearly my state of mind since the begining of our
exchange I think that Dave statements were "factual" without any
passion. Doing so he has exprimed the ethical and deontological reserve
that, IMHO, should be your attribute on a public forum.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruce J. Richman a écrit :

torresist demonstrates his delusions:



Subject: Equalizers
From: (Bruce J. Richman)
Date: 8/12/2004 7:42 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

Quackenbush is just as stupid as our favorite fat, juicy California banana
slug, but much more arrogant: ;-)



torresists wrote:



Subject: Equalizers

From: "Arny Krueger"

Date: 8/12/2004 5:16 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message



Not only a shut-in, but a promoter of libel and disinformation about
others - which he glorifies and praises in his fellow sociopathic
liar, Krueger.

Whatya call a purported health care professional who doesn't know that the
major mental health facility he referenced has been closed for upwards of


7

years? Bruce Richman!


I prefer to call him "Dr. Quackenbush". ;-)








So sayeth the anonymous McKelvy sockpuppet and Krueger clone.

Now he can go back in the toilet bowl he shares with Krueger.


Do you enjoy playing the ass on RAO, Quack-o? ;-))

Bruce J. Richman, Piles it High.
UnLicensed Psychologist, certified psychopath
OY 2543










(psychotic blather snipped because of basic lack of reality contact

Afraid tro identify yourself, whacko?

The antipsychotics aren't working very well for you, are they?

Your idiocy amuses just about everybody but you.

ROFLMAO !!!

Bye, bye - poster boy for euthanasia.

LOL !!!

Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
PY 2543 (Fllorida)


(now expected autistic response from RAO's highly conditioned anonywhacko,
torresists - let out on a weekend pass from a mental hospital, no doubt)

LOL !!!

(Lionel & Krueger say "the checks in the mail")

LOL !!!


Bruce J. Richman



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Hereafter the trigger of Dr. Richman hystery :

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
In fact to be honset Bruce I don't like you.
Your position, your role of RAO's psychologist expert is, IMHO, totally
*biased* and *hypocrite*.
To explain you clearly my state of mind since the begining of our
exchange I think that Dave statements were "factual" without any
passion. Doing so he has exprimed the ethical and deontological reserve
that, IMHO, should be your attribute on a public forum.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruce J. Richman a écrit :

Arny Krueger wrote:


snip of demented encouragement of sockpuppets by Krueger

And your evidence for 7 years of misidentifying my identity, credentials, and
professional activities is, :Krueger?

How about trying to justify 7 years of libelous misidentifications of
professional identities on RAO, libeler?

No doubt, you'll try and lie your way out of this one also. That's all you
know how to do.

Krueger will either snip and delete the above, ignore it, or attempt make
bizarre excuses

Don't forget to publish your claims in an American print publication, Krueger.

Have you notified the legal authorities in Florida about the person
impersonating Dr.Richman? What are you waiting for?

I've already alerted both my attornies and several law enforcement officers I
know to be sure and give you all the ":help" you need.

LOL !!!!


Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.\
Licensed Psychologist
PY 2543 (Florida)
Bruce J. Richman



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Hereafter the trigger of Dr. Richman hystery :

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
In fact to be honset Bruce I don't like you.
Your position, your role of RAO's psychologist expert is, IMHO, totally
*biased* and *hypocrite*.
To explain you clearly my state of mind since the begining of our
exchange I think that Dave statements were "factual" without any
passion. Doing so he has exprimed the ethical and deontological reserve
that, IMHO, should be your attribute on a public forum.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bruce J. Richman a écrit :

Powell wrote:


"Howard Ferstler" wrote


In a recent issue of The Sensible Sound I reviewed
the Rane THX-44 equalizer. In an earlier issue I had
also reviewed the THX-22 version.


Analog equalizers in high end audio (stereo) are generally
a waste of time and money. Thirty-one pots only serve to
dull out microdynamics and articulation of the human voice.
Many of the high quality pre-amps manufactured over the
last 20 years come without any bass or treble control
whatsoever, for this reason.












Powell, since you're responding to this egomaniacal windbag and libel-spewing
audio clown, please ask him to demonstrate his scientific integrity by telling
us once again about his double blind tests. As I understand it, and as most
other RAO normals understand it, they've been conclusively shown to be bogus by
several experienced audio professionals. Therefore, his writings (which may
also be at least partially plagiarized) aren't worth the toilet paper they are
written on.

I've suggested that he and Krueger, as part of their mutual love fest and
rehabilitation consider both finger painting and basket weaving. Both require
a minimm amount of social interaction and help to hide their limited
communication and social skills. OTOH, they can alway ciontinue responding to
the internal voices in their head telling them about EHEE & RAO conspiracy
theories.


Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist
PY 2543 (Florida)

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Lionel, dances again on cue, just like a puppet on a string:

Babble designed to win Krueger's undying gratitude and Liar Merit Badges from
RAO's sewer brigade deleted

How easy to pull this puppet's strings !!




Bruce J. Richman





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Lionel exhits his insanity again:

results of Lionel's overuse of laxatives deleted - verbal diarrhea not desired
when imported from France

Somebody needs to cut this puppet's strings - he can't stop twisting and
jerking in the wind.



Bruce J. Richman



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Lionel engages in autistic behavior (see Dustin Hoffman's "Rainman! Rainman!
Rainman!"


autistic, repetitive robotic mumblings from Lionel deleted to prevent local
French mental health personnel from taking him away in a straight jacket after
observing his compulsive repeating meaningless drivel on a public NG


Bruce J. Richman



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Lionel, obeying the command hallucinations in his head, demonstrates a
psychotic need to repeat himself with infantile babble:

Infantile babble deleted



Bruce J. Richman



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Night posting Doc ?
Your friend S888Wheel will mock you ?


Bruce J. Richman a écrit :

Lionel, dances again on cue, just like a puppet on a string:

Babble designed to win Krueger's undying gratitude and Liar Merit Badges from
RAO's sewer brigade deleted

How easy to pull this puppet's strings !!




Bruce J. Richman



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Night posting Doc ?
Your friend S888Wheel will mock you ?


Bruce J. Richman a écrit :

Lionel exhits his insanity again:

results of Lionel's overuse of laxatives deleted - verbal diarrhea not desired
when imported from France

Somebody needs to cut this puppet's strings - he can't stop twisting and
jerking in the wind.



Bruce J. Richman



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