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DRM ****ING ME OFF!!
I ripped some songs from a CD into MP3 Format Sound.
Simple enough. My collection is organized chronologically because prettymuch that's how I deal with life - through time. Therefore, my songs' file names usually include the decade and other info that I right-click on Properties to change in the mp3 file itself. A typical file name might be, "1980s - Jump" (for the monster Van Halen hit of that era). Other properties are not so visible, such as the option to put in a "Subtitle". When I sort the folder of mp3s by subtitle, they will sort by Cover#. IE: Bob Dylan's "Knocking On Heavens Door" and Guns & Roses' are both subtitled "Cover01". "Now That We Found Love", by both third wirld and Heavy D, are "Cover02", and so on. So what is my problem, you ask? The INFORMATION I'M ADDING/EDITING IN PROPERTIES IS NOT STICKING, DAMMIT ALL!!! I'm noticing that after a few days/weeks/months, mp3s from various sources are reverting to their download or rippeed Filenames, making it harder to sort via my mp3 player or windows folders when DJing from my PC. Is this the effect of "Digital Rights Managment", and, what can I do to prevent this bull**** from happening?? -ChrisCoaster |
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ChrisCoaster wrote:
I ripped some songs from a CD into MP3 Format Sound. Simple enough. Too simple. Since you didn't identify how you are ripping the music, (with what applicaiton) nor did you mention what you were using to edit the MP3 tags, it seems pretty unlikely that any of us can do anything but comiserate. If you are looking for something more than sympathy, you will need to reveal what software you are using and what is your "workflow". I generally use CD-DA for ripping, and MP3tag for editing tags. Neither of them has ever let me down. And it probably doesn't have anything to do with DRM, but not sure since we don't know how you are doing it. Some ways of ripping CDs (like Windows Media Player) actually ADD DRM! |
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On Oct 4, 6:36*pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote: I ripped some songs from a CD into MP3 Format Sound. Simple enough. Too simple. Since you didn't identify how you are ripping the music, (with what applicaiton) nor did you mention what you were using to edit the MP3 tags, it seems pretty unlikely that any of us can do anything but comiserate. If you are looking for something more than sympathy, you will need to reveal what software you are using and what is your "workflow". I generally use CD-DA for ripping, and MP3tag for editing tags. Neither of them has ever let me down. And it probably doesn't have anything to do with DRM, but not sure since we don't know how you are doing it. Some ways of ripping CDs (like Windows Media Player) actually ADD DRM! _________________ Yes, I use WMP to rip my CDs. But let me clarify the process: When I purchase an mp3(Amazon, etc) or rip one from a disc, here's what i do. If you right-click on the properties of a mp3 file, a window will pop up with three tabs: "General", "Security", and "Details". I rename the file in "General", then copy that exact name to "Details"(which is where my mp3 player gets title information - along with artist & genre, etc). I also add other details, like the Subtitle indicating that the song is a cover of an earlier original. I might also correct or add Artist's information, like the Artist's name and/or album that it came from. It is THESE ITEMS IN DETAILS that DISAPPEAR after a week, or a month, etc. Got it? The mp3 player can no longer find the song the way I set it up to. -CC |
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I use CDex for ripping my cds. When you load the cd you can load from a
cddb (online cd data database?) that adds the artist and all the track names. Then I use winamp as my player where I can add my own track info and make any changes to artist or track name. Winamp doesn't change the track info. Plus I use an older version, 5 or earlier. The latest winamp is starting to look like WiMP |
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ChrisCoaster wrote:
But let me clarify the process: When I purchase an mp3(Amazon, etc) or rip one from a disc, here's what i do. If you right-click on the properties of a mp3 file, a window will pop up with three tabs: "General", "Security", and "Details". OK, so you are using the Windows Explorer to modify the MP3 tags. When you want help with something, you must actually identify what it is that you want help with. We can't read your mind at this distance. Recommend just using something MEANT for the job like MP3tag which is FREE. Problem solved. Don't use a method that you have proved to be unreilable. Besides, MP3tag does so much more (and more convienently). You'll wonder why you ever did it with WE. |
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On Oct 4, 8:24*pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote: But let me clarify the process: *When I purchase an mp3(Amazon, etc) or rip one from a disc, here's what i do. If you right-click on the properties of a mp3 file, a window will pop up with three tabs: *"General", "Security", and "Details". OK, so you are using the Windows Explorer to modify the MP3 tags. When you want help with something, you must actually identify what it is that you want help with. We can't read your mind at this distance. Recommend just using something MEANT for the job like MP3tag which is FREE. *Problem solved. Don't use a method that you have proved to be unreilable. *Besides, MP3tag does so much more (and more convienently). You'll wonder why you ever did it with WE. ____________ Thank you. But what I'm trying to get to the bottom is - WHY does this information keep disappearing/reverting? Right clicking and modifying under the Details Tab is easy enough for a Texas Rancher to do it , I just want the **** to stick! -CC |
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On Oct 4, 8:24*pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote: But let me clarify the process: *When I purchase an mp3(Amazon, etc) or rip one from a disc, here's what i do. If you right-click on the properties of a mp3 file, a window will pop up with three tabs: *"General", "Security", and "Details". OK, so you are using the Windows Explorer to modify the MP3 tags. When you want help with something, you must actually identify what it is that you want help with. We can't read your mind at this distance. Recommend just using something MEANT for the job like MP3tag which is FREE. *Problem solved. Don't use a method that you have proved to be unreilable. *Besides, MP3tag does so much more (and more convienently). You'll wonder why you ever did it with WE. __________________ Well thanks for nothing - Rich! I downloaded Stamp ID3 Tag editor and it triggered Norton which processed a suspicious file which coincidentally came on board when I installed this thing. I have removed the program from my system but the shortcut icon must remain permanently on my desktop. Perhaps YOU can explain how to remove it - Einstein! -CC |
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On Oct 4, 9:40*pm, ChrisCoaster wrote:
On Oct 4, 8:24*pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote: ChrisCoaster wrote: But let me clarify the process: *When I purchase an mp3(Amazon, etc) or rip one from a disc, here's what i do. If you right-click on the properties of a mp3 file, a window will pop up with three tabs: *"General", "Security", and "Details". OK, so you are using the Windows Explorer to modify the MP3 tags. When you want help with something, you must actually identify what it is that you want help with. We can't read your mind at this distance.. Recommend just using something MEANT for the job like MP3tag which is FREE. *Problem solved. Don't use a method that you have proved to be unreilable. *Besides, MP3tag does so much more (and more convienently). You'll wonder why you ever did it with WE. __________________ Well thanks for nothing - Rich! I downloaded Stamp ID3 Tag editor and it triggered Norton which processed a suspicious file which coincidentally came on board when I installed this thing. *I have removed the program from my system but the shortcut icon must remain permanently on my desktop. Perhaps YOU can explain how to remove it - Einstein! -CC _____________ Well I rebooted my PC and now the icon - along with this malicious software - is gone. That'll be the last time I download something that YOU recommended, Rich. Good day, and Good GOD! -CC |
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ChrisCoaster wrote:
Well thanks for nothing - Rich! I downloaded Stamp ID3 Tag editor and it triggered Norton which processed a suspicious file which coincidentally came on board when I installed this thing. I have removed the program from my system but the shortcut icon must remain permanently on my desktop. Perhaps YOU can explain how to remove it - Einstein! Dunno what you're talking about? What is "Stamp ID3 Tag editor" I said "MP3tag which Google reveals to be: http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ Is that what you downloaded? I don't have a clue what "Stamp ID3 Tag editor" is? Never heard of it. Didn't recommend it. |
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On Oct 4, 9:48*pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote: Well thanks for nothing - Rich! I downloaded Stamp ID3 Tag editor and it triggered Norton which processed a suspicious file which coincidentally came on board when I installed this thing. *I have removed the program from my system but the shortcut icon must remain permanently on my desktop. Perhaps YOU can explain how to remove it - Einstein! Dunno what you're talking about? *What is "Stamp ID3 Tag editor" I said "MP3tag which Google reveals to be:http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ Is that what you downloaded? I don't have a clue what "Stamp ID3 Tag editor" is? Never heard of it. Didn't recommend it. ________________________ Look just below the row of links, "Home, Download, Donate, Screenshots," etc. It's the only download link on the whole page!! -CC |
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On Oct 4, 9:48*pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
ChrisCoaster wrote: Well thanks for nothing - Rich! I downloaded Stamp ID3 Tag editor and it triggered Norton which processed a suspicious file which coincidentally came on board when I installed this thing. *I have removed the program from my system but the shortcut icon must remain permanently on my desktop. Perhaps YOU can explain how to remove it - Einstein! Dunno what you're talking about? *What is "Stamp ID3 Tag editor" I said "MP3tag which Google reveals to be:http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ Is that what you downloaded? I don't have a clue what "Stamp ID3 Tag editor" is? Never heard of it. Didn't recommend it. ___________________________ Here is the link at the top of that page: Mp3 Tag Editing Software Download free tag editor to change or add information to Mp3 files. When I click it I get: http://www.nch.com.au/tageditor/inde...FVlM5Qod33G07Q Got any clues as to where what you recommend can be downloaded??? -CC |
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ChrisCoaster wrote:
Yes, I use WMP to rip my CDs. Take a look at the options and disable all the "steve ballmer and/or riaa knows what's good for ya" toggles. Out of the cybershrink wmp messes with everything. Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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Richard Crowley wrote:
If you right-click on the properties of a mp3 file, a window will pop up with three tabs: "General", "Security", and "Details". OK, so you are using the Windows Explorer to modify the MP3 tags. When you want help with something, you must actually identify what it is that you want help with. We can't read your mind at this distance. Whatever he does wmp will update the metadata if left at its ex works presets and it will so do for any file it has in its library, ie. knows about. Kind regards Peter Larsen |
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"ChrisCoaster" wrote ...
"Richard Crowley" wrote: I don't have a clue what "Stamp ID3 Tag editor" is? Never heard of it. Didn't recommend it. ___________________________ Here is the link at the top of that page: Mp3 Tag Editing Software Download free tag editor to change or add information to Mp3 files. When I click it I get: http://www.nch.com.au/tageditor/inde...FVlM5Qod33G07Q Got any clues as to where what you recommend can be downloaded??? This is what I see when I Google for: mp3tag Mp3tag - the universal Tag Editor (ID3v1, ID3v2, APEv2) An easy-to-use tool to edit metadata of common audio formats. It can rename files, replace characters, import/export tag information, create playlists... www.mp3tag.de/en/ - Cached - Similar Download Screenshots Support AwardsChangelog Links Donations More results from mp3tag.de » I don't see ANY adds in the right-margin bar |
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ChrisCoaster wrote:
I ripped some songs from a CD into MP3 Format Sound. Simple enough. My collection is organized chronologically because prettymuch that's how I deal with life - through time. Therefore, my songs' file names usually include the decade and other info that I right-click on Properties to change in the mp3 file itself. A typical file name might be, "1980s - Jump" (for the monster Van Halen hit of that era). Other properties are not so visible, such as the option to put in a "Subtitle". When I sort the folder of mp3s by subtitle, they will sort by Cover#. IE: Bob Dylan's "Knocking On Heavens Door" and Guns & Roses' are both subtitled "Cover01". "Now That We Found Love", by both third wirld and Heavy D, are "Cover02", and so on. So what is my problem, you ask? The INFORMATION I'M ADDING/EDITING IN PROPERTIES IS NOT STICKING, DAMMIT ALL!!! I'm noticing that after a few days/weeks/months, mp3s from various sources are reverting to their download or rippeed Filenames, making it harder to sort via my mp3 player or windows folders when DJing from my PC. Is this the effect of "Digital Rights Managment", and, what can I do to prevent this bull**** from happening?? -ChrisCoaster From reading the rest of the thread, apparently you're using Windows Media Player, and apparently it is set to download/revise tags for your music library. Windows apps often have such 'helpful' annoyances set to 'on' by default. Dig into the WMP options and turn it off. And no, it's got nothing to do with DRM. Personally I use foobar2000 as my music player/organizer software, and Tag&Rename for any heavy-duty tagging jobs. -- -S We have it in our power to begin the world over again - Thomas Paine |
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On Oct 6, 11:47*am, Steven Sullivan wrote:
wrote: I ripped some songs from a CD into MP3 Format Sound. Simple enough. My collection is organized chronologically because prettymuch that's how I deal with life - through time. Therefore, my songs' file names usually include the decade and other info that I right-click on Properties to change in the mp3 file itself. *A typical file name might be, "1980s - Jump" (for the monster Van Halen hit of that era). *Other properties are not so visible, such as the option to put in a "Subtitle". *When I sort the folder of mp3s by subtitle, they will sort by Cover#. *IE: *Bob Dylan's "Knocking On Heavens Door" and Guns & Roses' are both subtitled "Cover01". *"Now That We Found Love", by both third wirld and Heavy D, are "Cover02", and so on. So what is my problem, you ask? The INFORMATION I'M ADDING/EDITING IN PROPERTIES IS NOT STICKING, DAMMIT ALL!!! I'm noticing that after a few days/weeks/months, mp3s from various sources are reverting to their download or rippeed Filenames, making it harder to sort via my mp3 player or windows folders when DJing from my PC. Is this the effect of "Digital Rights Managment", and, what can I do to prevent this bull**** from happening?? -ChrisCoaster From reading the rest of the thread, apparently you're using Windows Media Player, and apparently it is set to download/revise tags for your music library. *Windows apps often have such 'helpful' annoyances set to 'on' by default. *Dig into the WMP options and turn it off. And no, it's got nothing to do with DRM. Personally I use foobar2000 as my music player/organizer software, and Tag&Rename for any heavy-duty tagging jobs. -- -S We have it in our power to begin the world over again - Thomas Paine- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - _______________________ Well, I went into Options in WMP and uncheckmarked a few things here and there. I'll see what happens with future downloads. Problem is, songs are reverting to their "download" titles on my mp3 player as well. It's happening slowly, over time. How does one explain THAT? -CC |
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On Oct 8, 5:16*pm, "Richard Crowley" wrote:
"ChrisCoaster" wrote ... Well, I went into Options in WMP and uncheckmarked a few things here and there. *I'll see what happens with future downloads. Problem is, songs are reverting to their "download" titles on my mp3 player as well. It's happening slowly, over time. How does one explain THAT? You keep using WMP and WE. If you wish to do that, then you must live with the consequences. *If you want to avoid all that intrigue, then you can follow our advice and use better -behaved 3rd party tools. This is not theory, many of us have been exactly where you are and we are offering you the benefit of our learnings and conclusions. If you don't want to take our advice, and you want to continue to use WMV, then please don't keep coming back here complaining about it. It diminishes your credibility. Vaudeville act from your great-grandparents era: Patient: *"Doc, it hurts when I do this!" Doctor: *"Well, then DON'T TO THAT!" _____________________ Then explain this: WHY is this happening only in the last several MONTHS? I've been editing mp3 properties since 2007, going back to XP and (!)-ME, and the song data that I input STUCK! What was there different about those two and the Vista and WMP 11 that I'm using now??? And I still haven't got an answer as to why the data is disappearing from songs ON MY MP3 PLAYER. -CC |
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"ChrisCoaster" wrote ...
Then explain this: WHY is this happening only in the last several MONTHS? I've been editing mp3 properties since 2007, going back to XP and (!)-ME, and the song data that I input STUCK! What was there different about those two and the Vista and WMP 11 that I'm using now??? If there weren't anything different, why do you think MS released 2 or 3 or 7 new versions of WMP during that time? WMP is second only to iTunes for doing stupid things that you didn't ask for. And I still haven't got an answer as to why the data is disappearing from songs ON MY MP3 PLAYER. Because you have probably connected it to your computer several times and your MP3 player gets "updated" with whatever mischief happened to your files since the last update. DUMP WMP, fix your files with MP3tag and THEN see what happens. Else, if you want to keep fooling around with WMP and other user-vicious applications, you're on your own. |
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