Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
J. P. Morris
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus.
As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track.
It doesn't even appear to be valve-based:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...cm dZViewItem

...yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original
price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were
shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good
history.

And here's another one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL...QQcmdZViewItem

(Although I note the apparent shills have been busy at work here too.)

Q: "WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OFFERED $3000,00. We will accept $6000,oo with free
shipping. The only other one of these just sold for 7900.00. Thanks bill."

Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable
in some mysterious way?

--
JP Morris - aka DOUG the Eagle (Dragon) -=UDIC=-
Anti-walkthroughs for Deus Ex, Thief and Ultima
http://www.it-he.org
Reign of the Just - An Ultima clone http://rotj.it-he.org
The DMFA radio series project http://dmfa.it-he.org
d+++ e+ N+ T++ Om U1234!56!7'!S'!8!9!KAW u++ uC+++ uF+++ uG---- uLB----
uA--- nC+ nR---- nH+++ nP++ nI nPT nS nT wM- wC- y a(YEAR - 1976)
  #2   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Mark
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?


J. P. Morris wrote:
Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus.
As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track.
It doesn't even appear to be valve-based:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...cm dZViewItem

..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original
price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were
shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good
history.

And here's another one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL...QQcmdZViewItem

(Although I note the apparent shills have been busy at work here too.)

Q: "WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OFFERED $3000,00. We will accept $6000,oo with free
shipping. The only other one of these just sold for 7900.00. Thanks bill."

Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable
in some mysterious way?

--



Wow, I'll have to finish up fixing up my Viking 88 and get it up there
on Ebay... its even got fire bottles..
Mark

  #3   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Allen Corneau
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

On 3/24/06 3:48 PM, in article
, "J. P. Morris"
wrote:


..but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good
history.


He's from Japan, so maybe he made a mistake on the exchange rate?!? The
seller made out like a bandit, regardless.


Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable
in some mysterious way?


I hope so! I've got an Otari 5050 just waiting for a new home, and I could
use an extra $8K!


Allen
--
Allen Corneau
Mastering Engineer
Essential Sound Mastering
www.esmastering.com

  #4   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Predrag Trpkov
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?


"Allen Corneau" wrote in message
...
On 3/24/06 3:48 PM, in article
, "J. P. Morris"
wrote:


..but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good
history.


He's from Japan, so maybe he made a mistake on the exchange rate?!?



How would you explain this?

http://tinyurl.com/f222f

http://tinyurl.com/hclku

Predrag


  #5   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Paul Stamler
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

"Predrag Trpkov" wrote in message
...

"Allen Corneau" wrote in message
...
On 3/24/06 3:48 PM, in article
, "J. P. Morris"
wrote:


..but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good
history.


He's from Japan, so maybe he made a mistake on the exchange rate?!?



How would you explain this?

http://tinyurl.com/f222f

http://tinyurl.com/hclku


The first one's not unreasonable; you're getting an M7 capsule, reasonably
new, for about 300 US$. The second one is a bit over the line.

Peace,
Paul




  #6   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Predrag Trpkov
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?


"Paul Stamler" wrote in message
...
"Predrag Trpkov" wrote in message
...

"Allen Corneau" wrote in message
...
On 3/24/06 3:48 PM, in article
, "J. P. Morris"
wrote:


..but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good
history.

He's from Japan, so maybe he made a mistake on the exchange rate?!?



How would you explain this?

http://tinyurl.com/f222f

http://tinyurl.com/hclku


The first one's not unreasonable; you're getting an M7 capsule, reasonably
new, for about 300 US$. The second one is a bit over the line.



The same seller, the same item, description, pictures, everything, parallel
auctions, ending within 15 minutes from each other,

Funny.

Predrag


  #7   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Paul Stamler
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

"Predrag Trpkov" wrote in message
...
The first one's not unreasonable; you're getting an M7 capsule,

reasonably
new, for about 300 US$. The second one is a bit over the line.


The same seller, the same item, description, pictures, everything,

parallel
auctions, ending within 15 minutes from each other,

Funny.


Some high-roller wanted one, so they bid it up. The high-roller didn't want
two, so didn't bid on the other auction.

Peace,
Paul


  #8   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Mike Rivers
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?


J. P. Morris wrote:
Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus.
As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track.


..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original
price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were
shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good
history.


Must be either a Japanese collector or someone's pulling our leg.
There's no practical or technical reason for this to be worth any more
than $50. Notice that the auction ended early to sell to the current
high bidder. Even the first bid of $250 was outrageous.

I'll take a paltry $2500 for a TEAC 6100 that I have in a home made
portable case, and I'll even throw in the original teak side panels,
just in case someone was watching this auction and dropped out the
second day.

  #9   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Paul Stamler
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

"J. P. Morris" wrote in message
...
Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus.
As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track.
It doesn't even appear to be valve-based:


http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...cm dZViewItem

..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its

original
price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were
shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good
history.

And here's another one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL...QQcmdZViewItem

(Although I note the apparent shills have been busy at work here too.)

Q: "WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OFFERED $3000,00. We will accept $6000,oo with free
shipping. The only other one of these just sold for 7900.00. Thanks bill."

Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable
in some mysterious way?


The only thing I can figure is that there are collectors out there who want
a complete set of Aiwa recorders, for reasons known but to themselves, and
this is the one that shows up the least often, so the collectors go berserk
when it appears. Like my friend whose best pal had the only Muddy Waters
record he didn't own.

Real collectors are NUTS.

Peace,
Paul


  #10   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Scott Dorsey
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

J. P. Morris wrote:
Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus.
As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track.
It doesn't even appear to be valve-based:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...cm dZViewItem

..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original
price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were
shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good
history.


It's being used as part of a money-laundering scheme. I bet a dollar.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


  #11   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus.
As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or
4-track.
It doesn't even appear to be valve-based:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL-TO-REEL-MDL-TP-1011_W0QQitem...

Interesting to note that all the higher bidders are first-timers. Maybe
the machine's filled with bags of heroin ("higher" bidders indeed!).
Either way, there must be an explanation for the price other than the
machine's actual value.

Ted Spencer, NYC
www.tedspencerrecording.com

  #12   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Richard Crowley
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

wrote ...
Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus.
As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic
2 or 4-track.
It doesn't even appear to be valve-based:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL-TO-REEL-MDL-TP-1011_W0QQitem...

Interesting to note that all the higher bidders are first-timers.


If I were going to set up some "shill" accounts, I could "buy"
thousands of items from myself worth millions of dollars I
never had. This is just insane.

  #13   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

P.T. Barnum is alive and well....

  #14   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
flatfish+++
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:48:31 +0000, J. P. Morris wrote:

Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus.
As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track.
It doesn't even appear to be valve-based:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...cm dZViewItem

..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original
price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were
shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good
history.


Wow!!

With all of the Tascam/Teac/Peavey/A.R.T and Alesis *collectable* gear I
have laying around, I am going to be a millionaire in a couple of weeks!!!


Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable
in some mysterious way?


Offshore/possibly onshore money laundering mill.
That's my guess.

flatfish+++

P.S. For those of you who missed the sarcasm, in this case *collectable*
means junk....
Not that most of it isn't useful,
but..........................................

  #15   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Skler
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

'Cause the guy who bought it is crazy! ;-)


"J. P. Morris" wrote in message
...
Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus.
As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track.
It doesn't even appear to be valve-based:


http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...0QQitemZ970019
9726QQcategoryZ15000QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its

original
price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were
shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good
history.

And here's another one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL...PE_W0QQitemZ97
03183995QQcategoryZ15000QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

(Although I note the apparent shills have been busy at work here too.)

Q: "WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OFFERED $3000,00. We will accept $6000,oo with free
shipping. The only other one of these just sold for 7900.00. Thanks bill."

Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable
in some mysterious way?

--
JP Morris - aka DOUG the Eagle (Dragon) -=UDIC=-
Anti-walkthroughs for Deus Ex, Thief and Ultima
http://www.it-he.org
Reign of the Just - An Ultima clone http://rotj.it-he.org
The DMFA radio series project http://dmfa.it-he.org
d+++ e+ N+ T++ Om U1234!56!7'!S'!8!9!KAW u++ uC+++ uF+++ uG---- uLB----
uA--- nC+ nR---- nH+++ nP++ nI nPT nS nT wM- wC- y a(YEAR - 1976)





  #16   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
GS
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

The secret of business success:

Every morning an idiot wakes up. You just have to find him....

br
GS


J. P. Morris schrieb:
Here's a question for the reel-to-reel gurus.
As far as I can see this AIWA TP1011 is an ordinary domestic 2 or 4-track.
It doesn't even appear to be valve-based:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VGC-AIWA-3-HEAD-...cm dZViewItem

..yet it has gone for $7900, which is probably about ten times its original
price, if that. Now normally I'd say that the two zero-bidders were
shills, but the guy who made the final purchase seems to have a good
history.

And here's another one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/AIWA-3-HEAD-REEL...QQcmdZViewItem

(Although I note the apparent shills have been busy at work here too.)

Q: "WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OFFERED $3000,00. We will accept $6000,oo with free
shipping. The only other one of these just sold for 7900.00. Thanks bill."

Have they simply lost their hold on reality or are these machines valuable
in some mysterious way?

  #17   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
 
Posts: n/a
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?


GS wrote:
The secret of business success:

Every morning an idiot wakes up. You just have to find him....


I don't think good business is " find the idiot" good business is not
being the idiot.

In business , I ask my self when buying buildings or used gear "
am I the biggest idiot," if I feel even close that I may be, I pass on
the gear or the building.

Still. . I'm about to clean up some old gear.. . bad business can be
fun $$


Ed Bridge
www.bridgekaldromusic.com

  #18   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
[email protected] jfscreen16@gmail.com is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...alID=EB AY-US
  #19   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Don Pearce[_3_] Don Pearce[_3_] is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,417
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 12:36:29 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...alID=EB AY-US

I think a quick count of the number of bids will reveal the answer.

d
  #20   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Mike Rivers[_2_] Mike Rivers[_2_] is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2,190
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

On 8/30/2015 3:36 PM, wrote:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...alID=EB AY-US

Some possible reasons:

1. The seller thinks that someone will pay that much. Did you keep
entering bids until you met the reserve? Is that where you got $8,000?

2. The Tape Project. I think I heard that they finally stopped making
tapes, but people were paying $8000 or more for hot-rodded rebuilt Revox
tape decks to play those tapes on.

3. The seller doesn't have a clue.


--
For a good time, visit http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com


  #21   Report Post  
Posted to rec.audio.pro
Scott Dorsey Scott Dorsey is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 16,853
Default Just why is this worth eight thousand dollars?

In article ,
wrote:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...alID=EB AY-US


I don't think it is. You will notice there are no bids.

Consumer quarter-track machines are a dime a dozen and not really useful
for anything much.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Reply
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Nakamichi MB-3s - worth repairing? TDWesty Tech 0 June 19th 05 03:17 AM
audiophiles and home theaters (really worth it?) Faive High End Audio 25 September 14th 04 12:27 AM
Powerful Argument in Favor of Agnosticism and Athetism Robert Morein Audio Opinions 3 August 17th 04 06:37 AM
Is the Audigy 2ZS Platinum 2 worth getting? I now use SB Live. Kurt Riemann Pro Audio 5 August 13th 04 10:07 AM
5v pre-out head unit worth it? Marty Car Audio 3 July 5th 04 05:23 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:18 PM.

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 AudioBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Audio and hi-fi"