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Delp's death a suicide
Robert said: There is another side to the argument, which has to do with how bad things were in the old loony bins. To do the moral arithmetic, we need to know this. I don't know, and for that reason I find it difficult to take a position. Do you believe Nurse Ratched is purely imaginary? -- Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence. |
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Delp's death a suicide
Robert said: Do you believe Nurse Ratched is purely imaginary? Seen Titticut Follies? http://imdb.com/title/tt0062374/ Nope... It was directed by Dr. No. Oh wait, a different Wiseman. I wonder if Bwian's been "in" ? Is Arnii asking for company? ;-) -- Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence. |
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Delp's death a suicide
paul packer wrote:
On 19 Mar 2007 11:18:41 -0700, wrote: I am old enough to have memories from my internship/residency days of what care of the psychotic was like (at least in the U.K.) before the pseudo-liberarators of the Szasz and the half-mad psychiatrist who committed suicide (name?) kind got into it and opened the asylum doors wide to the delights of huddling under a blanket on the park-bench. In the name of freedom of choice for those incapable of choosing. I spent a couple of months as a house physician in the Crichton Royal- a model "mental hospital" in Scotland. It was sited on agricultural and fruit-trees acreage. The inmates were free to work there if they wanted.or learn a craft indoors. There were weekly dances for the not completely psychotic patients which the doctors and nurses were encouraged to attend. There were films, music and theatrical shows. I saw several patients who were indignant at the mere mention of being "liberated" Of course the municipal govts. were delighted to save the money and close the "reactionary" asylums. Walk down any busy street and meet the "liberated" talking to their voices, sleeping in parks and occasionally pushing someone under the wheels of the incoming train underground. Ludovic Mirabel It's exactly the same in Oz, Ludo. 21 year old police constables now have to deal with these "liberated" inmates, and do so often by shooting them. Closing the hospitals was a cynical money saving exercise That's not completely true. Mental hospitals, at least in the U.S. have always been a source of embarassment. Drug therapies were taking off at the time. Don't wanna lay too much at Ken Kesey's feet, but "Cuckoo's Nest" had a significant impact of public perception of this sort of thing. That sort of image is hard to counteract with even a great deal of facts on a subject people are genuinely interested in. with only misery as the result, and only recently here has there been a concerted call for better mental health care. It'll take time. Largely unheeded, of course. -- Les Cargill |
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Delp's death a suicide
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:32:05 -0400, "Soundhaspriority"
wrote: "paul packer" wrote in message ... On 19 Mar 2007 11:18:41 -0700, wrote: [snip] It's exactly the same in Oz, Ludo. 21 year old police constables now have to deal with these "liberated" inmates, and do so often by shooting them. Closing the hospitals was a cynical money saving exercise with only misery as the result, and only recently here has there been a concerted call for better mental health care. Largely unheeded, of course. There is another side to the argument, which has to do with how bad things were in the old loony bins. To do the moral arithmetic, we need to know this. I don't know, and for that reason I find it difficult to take a position. Fair enough. But one could say about the hospital system one thing: it was centralised, and thus offered a chance for overall improvement. As things stand, most former inmates lead lonely lives in squalid tenements, often being fleeced by unscrupulous landlords, and no improvement will come to their lives except by individual acts of kindness. |
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Delp's death a suicide
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:36:49 -0500, WindsorFox
wrote: wrote: On Mar 14, 7:23 pm, soundhaspriority wrote: In article , "J.C. Scott" wrote: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17613903/ He's my hero. I'm thinking this might be a good plan. Delp's life, like mine, has reached a dead end with nothing more to contribute. Bob Morein Dresher, PA (215) 646-4894 =============================== I can not believe trhat this posting is authentic. Ludovic Mirabel A Of course it's not. It's McCarty. But it's authentic McCarty. :-) |
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Delp's death a suicide
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:03:47 -0400, Les Cargill
wrote: paul packer wrote: On 19 Mar 2007 11:18:41 -0700, wrote: I am old enough to have memories from my internship/residency days of what care of the psychotic was like (at least in the U.K.) before the pseudo-liberarators of the Szasz and the half-mad psychiatrist who committed suicide (name?) kind got into it and opened the asylum doors wide to the delights of huddling under a blanket on the park-bench. In the name of freedom of choice for those incapable of choosing. I spent a couple of months as a house physician in the Crichton Royal- a model "mental hospital" in Scotland. It was sited on agricultural and fruit-trees acreage. The inmates were free to work there if they wanted.or learn a craft indoors. There were weekly dances for the not completely psychotic patients which the doctors and nurses were encouraged to attend. There were films, music and theatrical shows. I saw several patients who were indignant at the mere mention of being "liberated" Of course the municipal govts. were delighted to save the money and close the "reactionary" asylums. Walk down any busy street and meet the "liberated" talking to their voices, sleeping in parks and occasionally pushing someone under the wheels of the incoming train underground. Ludovic Mirabel It's exactly the same in Oz, Ludo. 21 year old police constables now have to deal with these "liberated" inmates, and do so often by shooting them. Closing the hospitals was a cynical money saving exercise That's not completely true. Mental hospitals, at least in the U.S. have always been a source of embarassment. No doubt. And no doubt too every one of them stood on highly valuable land. Drug therapies were taking off at the time. Which could more easily have been administered in hospital. If you don't want a patient to take his medication, send him off into independent living. |
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Delp's death a suicide
paul packer said: And no doubt too every one of them stood on highly valuable land. Not every one. How about yours? ;-) -- Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence. |
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Delp's death a suicide
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:33:47 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr _ george
@ comcast . net wrote: paul packer said: And no doubt too every one of them stood on highly valuable land. Not every one. How about yours? ;-) ?????????? |
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Delp's death a suicide
paul packer said: And no doubt too every one of them stood on highly valuable land. Not every one. How about yours? ;-) ?????????? You know -- the ivory tower you live in. ;-) -- Krooscience: The antidote to education, experience, and excellence. |
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Delp's death a suicide
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:40:23 -0400, George M. Middius cmndr _ george
@ comcast . net wrote: paul packer said: And no doubt too every one of them stood on highly valuable land. Not every one. How about yours? ;-) ?????????? You know -- the ivory tower you live in. ;-) The land wasn't valuable until I built the ivory tower on it. You should knock down your hovel and build one yourself. :-) |
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Delp's death a suicide
On Mar 21, 5:59 am, (paul packer) wrote:
You know -- the ivory tower you live in. ;-) The land wasn't valuable until I built the ivory tower on it. You should knock down your hovel and build one yourself. :-) The "commander" is still sucking at the parental tit, so ownership, responsibility, even the general requirements of adulthood and the associated commerce is beyond both its meager skills and even lesser understanding. Of course, this is entirely appropriate for a 12 year- old for which what passes for its brain is still developing. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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Delp's death a suicide
Is it possible to commit suicide with a condenser mic in your left
hand and a lapel mic in your right hand? On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:54:26 -0000, "Phildo" wrote: "Mike Heins" wrote in message ... When you find perfection anywhere, let me know. I have her phone number ;-) There is lots of help out there, and a large proportion of the problems I see in people is them not taking their meds. Have to agree there. I have a friend who has been in and out of institutions most of her life. With her she relapses when she gets back on the weed but I've seen several of her friends stop taking their meds and a few weeks later they are back inside. By the way, just read a very scary book on bioethics - "Culture of Death: The Assault on Medical Ethics in America" by Wesley J. Smith. If you think the medical system sucks now then read this book and do everything you can to stop this increasingly popular way of thinking before it gets accepted. Phildo |
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Delp's death a suicide
Inconvenient Truth wrote:
Is it possible to commit suicide with a condenser mic in your left hand and a lapel mic in your right hand? I saw a guy do it with nothing but an acoustic guitar last Saturday :-) |
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On 21 Mar 2007 03:31:21 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote:
On Mar 21, 5:59 am, (paul packer) wrote: You know -- the ivory tower you live in. ;-) The land wasn't valuable until I built the ivory tower on it. You should knock down your hovel and build one yourself. :-) The "commander" is still sucking at the parental tit, so ownership, responsibility, even the general requirements of adulthood and the associated commerce is beyond both its meager skills and even lesser understanding. If you have inside info, by all means share it with us. :-) |
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On Mar 21, 6:54 pm, (paul packer) wrote:
On 21 Mar 2007 03:31:21 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: On Mar 21, 5:59 am, (paul packer) wrote: You know -- the ivory tower you live in. ;-) The land wasn't valuable until I built the ivory tower on it. You should knock down your hovel and build one yourself. :-) The "commander" is still sucking at the parental tit, so ownership, responsibility, even the general requirements of adulthood and the associated commerce is beyond both its meager skills and even lesser understanding. If you have inside info, by all means share it with us. :-) ".... inside info, ...." Yetch! There are times when one knows that what exists under the rock is nasty and offensive without having to resort to turning it over. Typically just by observing the spoor. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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about Brian L. McCarty
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about Brian L. McCarty
Donīt answer back. He will only post more. Simply ignore.
Gunnar |
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about Brian L. McCarty
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:06:32 -0400, Soundhaspriority wrote
(in article ): Some of you may have noticed the upsurge in McCarty forgings. No we haven't and we really don't care. Ty Ford --Audio Equipment Reviews Audio Production Services Acting and Voiceover Demos http://www.tyford.com Guitar player?:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RZJ9MptZmU |
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