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Im exited
I am building my first DAW! The computer will be:
`AMD 64Bit 3200+ 1600MHz FSB `Asus A8V-E Deluxe [VIA Chip,8 USB,1 FIREWIRE,3 PCI,2 SATA] `NZXT Nemesis Case `480Watt Thermaltake Silent Pure Power Supply `1024MB PC3200 DDR400 `Dual 160GB SATA 7200RPM w/ RAID 1 Configuration `Sony D26A DL 16x DVD +/- R/RW Audio interface: `E-MU 1820M [ http://www.emu.com/products/product....category =754 ] Monitors: `KRK RP5 Rokit Powered 2-Way Active Monitors [ http://www.krksys.com/v3/rokit_rp5.asp ] *Phew* I sure hope I am doing this right. |
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*Phew* I sure hope I am doing this right. Nice, how good's your room though? |
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donaldjcecil wrote:
I am building my first DAW! The computer will be: `AMD 64Bit 3200+ 1600MHz FSB `Asus A8V-E Deluxe [VIA Chip,8 USB,1 FIREWIRE,3 PCI,2 SATA] `NZXT Nemesis Case `480Watt Thermaltake Silent Pure Power Supply `1024MB PC3200 DDR400 `Dual 160GB SATA 7200RPM w/ RAID 1 Configuration `Sony D26A DL 16x DVD +/- R/RW Audio interface: `E-MU 1820M [ http://www.emu.com/products/product....category =754 ] Monitors: `KRK RP5 Rokit Powered 2-Way Active Monitors [ http://www.krksys.com/v3/rokit_rp5.asp ] *Phew* I sure hope I am doing this right. Are you getting excited simply over the *technology* ? If you want to hear nice sound listen to a good acoustic band. They don't need no damb 'puters you know ! Graham |
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You might want to consider a third hot swap / USB / Firewire backup drive
for safety Otherwise it should be a real smoker....but then I know squat about computers Don "donaldjcecil" wrote in message news:vxUwe.13431$ro.8660@fed1read02... I am building my first DAW! The computer will be: `AMD 64Bit 3200+ 1600MHz FSB `Asus A8V-E Deluxe [VIA Chip,8 USB,1 FIREWIRE,3 PCI,2 SATA] `NZXT Nemesis Case `480Watt Thermaltake Silent Pure Power Supply `1024MB PC3200 DDR400 `Dual 160GB SATA 7200RPM w/ RAID 1 Configuration `Sony D26A DL 16x DVD +/- R/RW Audio interface: `E-MU 1820M [ http://www.emu.com/products/product....category =754 ] Monitors: `KRK RP5 Rokit Powered 2-Way Active Monitors [ http://www.krksys.com/v3/rokit_rp5.asp ] *Phew* I sure hope I am doing this right. |
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Pooh Bear wrote:
donaldjcecil wrote: I am building my first DAW! The computer will be: `AMD 64Bit 3200+ 1600MHz FSB `Asus A8V-E Deluxe [VIA Chip,8 USB,1 FIREWIRE,3 PCI,2 SATA] `NZXT Nemesis Case `480Watt Thermaltake Silent Pure Power Supply `1024MB PC3200 DDR400 `Dual 160GB SATA 7200RPM w/ RAID 1 Configuration `Sony D26A DL 16x DVD +/- R/RW Audio interface: `E-MU 1820M [ http://www.emu.com/products/product....category =754 ] Monitors: `KRK RP5 Rokit Powered 2-Way Active Monitors [ http://www.krksys.com/v3/rokit_rp5.asp ] *Phew* I sure hope I am doing this right. Are you getting excited simply over the *technology* ? If you want to hear nice sound listen to a good acoustic band. They don't need no damb 'puters you know ! Graham I happen to like technology. And music. Now I get to work with both at my own leisure. |
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Don Nafe wrote:
You might want to consider a third hot swap / USB / Firewire backup drive for safety Otherwise it should be a real smoker....but then I know squat about computers Don The RAID 1 configuration is the backup. There are two hard drives, but with RAID 1 everything is automatically written to the second drive as a backup. So you basically have one drive. It's commonplace to see that setup on servers, but I feel it is also important to incorporate it when you are dealing with someone's art. |
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 08:51:38 -0700, donaldjcecil
wrote: I am building my first DAW! The computer will be: `AMD 64Bit 3200+ 1600MHz FSB `Asus A8V-E Deluxe [VIA Chip,8 USB,1 FIREWIRE,3 PCI,2 SATA] `NZXT Nemesis Case `480Watt Thermaltake Silent Pure Power Supply `1024MB PC3200 DDR400 `Dual 160GB SATA 7200RPM w/ RAID 1 Configuration `Sony D26A DL 16x DVD +/- R/RW I'd highly suggest using a separate drive for the OS (an IDE drive'll do fine, and they're cheap) and use the RAID for the audio data. Especially if you're going to be using any sampling software. Other'n that, it's looking nice. :-) jtougas listen- there's a hell of a good universe next door let's go e.e. cummings |
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I second this suggestion. And doubling the RAM would not hurt, memory is
cheap... I'd highly suggest using a separate drive for the OS (an IDE drive'll do fine, and they're cheap) and use the RAID for the audio data. Especially if you're going to be using any sampling software. Other'n that, it's looking nice. :-) jtougas listen- there's a hell of a good universe next door let's go e.e. cummings |
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 03:01:40 GMT, "Alex Coluzzi"
wrote: I second this suggestion. And doubling the RAM would not hurt, memory is cheap... Not a bad idea, but if you do, splurge and go for 1GB chips. That way, if you ever buy more RAM for the system, you're not throwing away two 512MB chips, you're just adding two more 1GB chips (which will presumably be cheaper in the future). jtougas listen- there's a hell of a good universe next door let's go e.e. cummings |
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donaldjcecil wrote: The RAID 1 configuration is the backup. There are two hard drives, but with RAID 1 everything is automatically written to the second drive as a backup. So you basically have one drive. It's commonplace to see that setup on servers, but I feel it is also important to incorporate it when you are dealing with someone's art. Removable is still good. What if you have a fire, earthquake, monster hurricane, tsunami, lightning strike, etc.? Having a backup kept remote from where you work is a comforting feeling. Sure, both can take a hit from the same "act of God" but the probability is lower nonetheless. Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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djeeezz, let the kid be excited man, WTF's wrong with that? Cheers,
Bob "Pooh Bear" schreef in bericht ... donaldjcecil wrote: I am building my first DAW! The computer will be: `AMD 64Bit 3200+ 1600MHz FSB `Asus A8V-E Deluxe [VIA Chip,8 USB,1 FIREWIRE,3 PCI,2 SATA] `NZXT Nemesis Case `480Watt Thermaltake Silent Pure Power Supply `1024MB PC3200 DDR400 `Dual 160GB SATA 7200RPM w/ RAID 1 Configuration `Sony D26A DL 16x DVD +/- R/RW Audio interface: `E-MU 1820M [ http://www.emu.com/products/product....category =754 ] Monitors: `KRK RP5 Rokit Powered 2-Way Active Monitors [ http://www.krksys.com/v3/rokit_rp5.asp ] *Phew* I sure hope I am doing this right. Are you getting excited simply over the *technology* ? If you want to hear nice sound listen to a good acoustic band. They don't need no damb 'puters you know ! Graham |
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On 2005-06-30 said: *Phew* I sure hope I am doing this right. how good's your room though? WHat he's supposed to do this in a room? You mean like plug in microphones and record actual musicians creating art? Nah it's all supposed to be done with loops and amp simulators and all that dreck. Whaddaya want a room for? HE can wonk out in his bedroom with his headphones on and create music nobody will ever hear. Oops maybe that's the problem, we're hearing too much o' that stuff. Richard Webb, Electric SPider Productions, New Orleans, La. REplace anything before the @ symbol with elspider for real email -- "Applying computer technology is as simple as finding the right wrench to pound in the correct screw." Quick to assume, and frankly I find this offensive. No need for me to argue with this. Ciao. |
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*Phew* I sure hope I am doing this right. how good's your room though? WHat he's supposed to do this in a room? You mean like plug in microphones and record actual musicians creating art? Nah it's all supposed to be done with loops and amp simulators and all that dreck. Whaddaya want a room for? HE can wonk out in his bedroom with his headphones on and create music nobody will ever hear. Oops maybe that's the problem, we're hearing too much o' that stuff. Even computer-generated music needs to be mixed properly and the only way to do that is in a good room. Not my style of music either really, but some people obviously like it. Dave |
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"donaldjcecil" wrote in message news:AiZwe.14393$ro.11654@fed1read02... Pooh Bear wrote: donaldjcecil wrote: I am building my first DAW! The computer will be: `AMD 64Bit 3200+ 1600MHz FSB `Asus A8V-E Deluxe [VIA Chip,8 USB,1 FIREWIRE,3 PCI,2 SATA] `NZXT Nemesis Case `480Watt Thermaltake Silent Pure Power Supply `1024MB PC3200 DDR400 `Dual 160GB SATA 7200RPM w/ RAID 1 Configuration `Sony D26A DL 16x DVD +/- R/RW Audio interface: `E-MU 1820M [ http://www.emu.com/products/product....y=754&maincate gory=754 ] Monitors: `KRK RP5 Rokit Powered 2-Way Active Monitors [ http://www.krksys.com/v3/rokit_rp5.asp ] *Phew* I sure hope I am doing this right. Are you getting excited simply over the *technology* ? If you want to hear nice sound listen to a good acoustic band. They don't need no damb 'puters you know ! Graham I happen to like technology. And music. Now I get to work with both at my own leisure. Just be aware, and try not to fall into the same trap so many have: The fastest computer in the world with the most expensive equipment is capable of creating the crappiest music if the person using it lacks the necessary skills. |
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David Grant wrote:
"donaldjcecil" wrote in message news:AiZwe.14393$ro.11654@fed1read02... Pooh Bear wrote: donaldjcecil wrote: I am building my first DAW! The computer will be: `AMD 64Bit 3200+ 1600MHz FSB `Asus A8V-E Deluxe [VIA Chip,8 USB,1 FIREWIRE,3 PCI,2 SATA] `NZXT Nemesis Case `480Watt Thermaltake Silent Pure Power Supply `1024MB PC3200 DDR400 `Dual 160GB SATA 7200RPM w/ RAID 1 Configuration `Sony D26A DL 16x DVD +/- R/RW Audio interface: `E-MU 1820M [ http://www.emu.com/products/product....y=754&maincate gory=754 ] Monitors: `KRK RP5 Rokit Powered 2-Way Active Monitors [ http://www.krksys.com/v3/rokit_rp5.asp ] *Phew* I sure hope I am doing this right. Are you getting excited simply over the *technology* ? If you want to hear nice sound listen to a good acoustic band. They don't need no damb 'puters you know ! Graham I happen to like technology. And music. Now I get to work with both at my own leisure. Just be aware, and try not to fall into the same trap so many have: The fastest computer in the world with the most expensive equipment is capable of creating the crappiest music if the person using it lacks the necessary skills. I was given the resources to build this as a gift from the richer side of my family, and I am currently going to school for "digital audio production" and "recording arts." I am definitely forturnate to have this edge over the other students, but I don't plan on taking this lightly/for granted. I feel very privlaged, and I plan on using this privlage. I will try not to fall into that "trap"  . Im just an honeststudent learning to be a recording artist. |
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Bob wrote: djeeezz, let the kid be excited man, WTF's wrong with that? Cheers, Bob Nah , he said exited ! ;-) I can understand some enthusiam over getting his new toy. I hear less about what he's going to do with it. Graham |
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Pooh Bear wrote:
Bob wrote: djeeezz, let the kid be excited man, WTF's wrong with that? Cheers, Bob Nah , he said exited ! ;-) I can understand some enthusiam over getting his new toy. I hear less about what he's going to do with it. Graham I plan on recording an all brass band. Seriously though, it is kind of a toy, and kind of a gift, and to me a great privlage, because I will have this unit while I go to school for recording arts. It may not be the best setup in many respects, but I am still going to make the best use I can out of it. |
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donaldjcecil wrote:
Pooh Bear wrote: Bob wrote: djeeezz, let the kid be excited man, WTF's wrong with that? Cheers, Bob Nah , he said exited ! ;-) I can understand some enthusiam over getting his new toy. I hear less about what he's going to do with it. Graham I plan on recording an all brass band. Just that ? You weren't looking wider afield so as to gain experience in a broad variety of situations ? Your proposal is way too limited. Seriously though, it is kind of a toy, and kind of a gift, and to me a great privlage, If it's a gift, that's fine. If however you plan to make a career in recording you'll find it tough ! Nice toys notwithstanding. It'll be obsolete in a few years anyway. because I will have this unit while I go to school for recording arts. It may not be the best setup in many respects, but I am still going to make the best use I can out of it. What school ? There are plenty out there just pampering to ppls' vain hopes and desires of 'making it work out' in audio. For every *real job* in audio there are probably ( conservatively ) 10 times that number being trained by 'schools'. To be successful you have to be damn good ! I suggest you start with a basic trainer in acoustics since you mentioned that, as there are probably more jobs available in acoustic control than will ever be there for recording engineers. Failing that, look at film and video production as interesting related areas. Heck, you might even become a rich porn producer ! Graham |
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I suggest you read http://www.ethanwiner.com/acoustics.html
Too help you understand the importance of good room acoustics, first read the quote below taken from the site above(something I wish I'd done right when I was starting up and not several years after): "What's the point in buying a microphone preamp that is ruler flat from DC to microwaves when the acoustics in your control room create peaks and dips as large as 20 dB throughout the entire bass range? How important really are jitter artifacts 110 dB below the music when standing waves in your studio cause a huge hole at 80 Hz exactly where you placed a mike for the acoustic bass? Clearly, frequency response errors of this magnitude are an enormous problem, yet most studios and control rooms suffer from this defect. Worse, many studio owners have no idea their rooms have such a skewed response! Without knowing what your music really sounds like, it is difficult to produce a quality product, and even more difficult to create mixes that sound the same outside your control room. " "donaldjcecil" wrote in message news:3_pxe.15627$ro.11039@fed1read02... wrote: dave wrote: how good's your room though? WHat he's supposed to do this in a room? You mean like plug in microphones and record actual musicians creating art? Nah it's all supposed to be done with loops and amp simulators and all that dreck. Whaddaya want a room for? HE can wonk out in his bedroom with his headphones on and create music nobody will ever hear. Oops maybe that's the problem, we're hearing too much o' that stuff. Even computer-generated music needs to be mixed properly and the only way to do that is in a good room. Not my style of music either really, but some people obviously like it. YEs it does, with a knowledge of how things mied on your monitors translate to the real world. STill wonder if he's exited as in "ELvis has exitedthe building" or excited. either way a good control room is a must, and hopefully a good tracking space if he plans on making real music. Richard Webb, Electric SPider Productions, New Orleans, La. REplace anything before the @ symbol with elspider for real email -- "Standing in the Glare of Quantization" Watch for it on Empty-Vee.--- Hank Alrich I would like to hear a definition of "real music." And I will be honest, I haven't given much consideration to acoustics, as I don't think it would be very probable in my situation. I rent a house. I plan on putting the unit in the garage, but I don't think the landlord would take kindly to me putting up large scale room acoustics. Maybe you can give me some advice? Are there any quick fixes I can do to remedy my control room? |
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"Pooh Bear" wrote in message ... donaldjcecil wrote: Pooh Bear wrote: Bob wrote: djeeezz, let the kid be excited man, WTF's wrong with that? Cheers, Bob Nah , he said exited ! ;-) I can understand some enthusiam over getting his new toy. I hear less about what he's going to do with it. Graham I plan on recording an all brass band. Just that ? You weren't looking wider afield so as to gain experience in a broad variety of situations ? Your proposal is way too limited. Seriously though, it is kind of a toy, and kind of a gift, and to me a great privlage, If it's a gift, that's fine. If however you plan to make a career in recording you'll find it tough ! Nice toys notwithstanding. It'll be obsolete in a few years anyway. because I will have this unit while I go to school for recording arts. It may not be the best setup in many respects, but I am still going to make the best use I can out of it. What school ? There are plenty out there just pampering to ppls' vain hopes and desires of 'making it work out' in audio. For every *real job* in audio there are probably ( conservatively ) 10 times that number being trained by 'schools'. To be successful you have to be damn good ! I suggest you start with a basic trainer in acoustics since you mentioned that, as there are probably more jobs available in acoustic control than will ever be there for recording engineers. Failing that, look at film and video production as interesting related areas. Heck, you might even become a rich porn producer ! Graham I'd agree, but he has a "rich side" of his family, so maybe making money's not really his concern. Perhaps this is just a really expensive hobby, in which case your warnings aren't really of much consequence to him. Heck if he's got lots of money he can probably pay bands/musicians (if need be) to come in and record, until he gets the experience he needs - am I wrong? |
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David Grant wrote:
"Pooh Bear" wrote in message ... donaldjcecil wrote: Pooh Bear wrote: Bob wrote: djeeezz, let the kid be excited man, WTF's wrong with that? Cheers, Bob Nah , he said exited ! ;-) I can understand some enthusiam over getting his new toy. I hear less about what he's going to do with it. Graham I plan on recording an all brass band. Just that ? You weren't looking wider afield so as to gain experience in a broad variety of situations ? Your proposal is way too limited. Seriously though, it is kind of a toy, and kind of a gift, and to me a great privlage, If it's a gift, that's fine. If however you plan to make a career in recording you'll find it tough ! Nice toys notwithstanding. It'll be obsolete in a few years anyway. because I will have this unit while I go to school for recording arts. It may not be the best setup in many respects, but I am still going to make the best use I can out of it. What school ? There are plenty out there just pampering to ppls' vain hopes and desires of 'making it work out' in audio. For every *real job* in audio there are probably ( conservatively ) 10 times that number being trained by 'schools'. To be successful you have to be damn good ! I suggest you start with a basic trainer in acoustics since you mentioned that, as there are probably more jobs available in acoustic control than will ever be there for recording engineers. Failing that, look at film and video production as interesting related areas. Heck, you might even become a rich porn producer ! Graham I'd agree, but he has a "rich side" of his family, so maybe making money's not really his concern. Perhaps this is just a really expensive hobby, in which case your warnings aren't really of much consequence to him. Heck if he's got lots of money he can probably pay bands/musicians (if need be) to come in and record, until he gets the experience he needs - am I wrong? believe me, i am in no way rich, and making money is a concern. I would like to pursue a career in music. what I want to do yet, I dont know. In the meantime I will just work a stable job while I'm attending community college for my preliminary music courses (and if anyone is familiar with the name Mira Costa then you know it's has a relatively exceptional music program). I am 22 years old, so it's not as if I'm in a big hurry. I was shocked to get help from that side of my family, seeing as for my Highschool graduation they gave me $25, and for christmas a medium size shirt (I wear a XXL). So needless I was wide-eyed, and I know I'm privlaged to have this extra leverage when I'll be taking my classes. Interesting you mention acoustics as a career. I never really thought of that as a specialization, but someone's got to do it I suppose. That's definitely something else to look into. |
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