Ian Molton said:

So, take the sick and kill them, eh?

No, just the chronic pedophiles.

should we also tar and feather them?

Nope, just cut off their dicks 'n be done with it.

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

"2mb" wrote in message
...

Do you want them around your kids unattended? How about outside of the
neighborhood elementary school when it lets out for the afternoon. Pocket
full of candy, or pills... give me a break. They need to be dealt with
permanently. Every last one I have ever seen on the news is a repeat
offender.



Well, where my kids go to school (3rd and 5th grade) there _are_ two
registered sex offenders who live across the street from the school.
Everyone knows they are there and every one watches those houses. I still
think it's crazy to let these people live in such locations.

Then again, you just never know. A few weeks ago a local teacher got
indicted for child molestation. He had an affair with a 12 year old student
of his that had been going on for four years. Sick. You'd think that the
parents would notice these things happening. At least I hope I would if my
kids were in that situation.

Richard

"2mb" wrote in message
...

Do you want them around your kids unattended? How about outside of the
neighborhood elementary school when it lets out for the afternoon. Pocket
full of candy, or pills... give me a break. They need to be dealt with
permanently. Every last one I have ever seen on the news is a repeat
offender.



Well, where my kids go to school (3rd and 5th grade) there _are_ two
registered sex offenders who live across the street from the school.
Everyone knows they are there and every one watches those houses. I still
think it's crazy to let these people live in such locations.

Then again, you just never know. A few weeks ago a local teacher got
indicted for child molestation. He had an affair with a 12 year old student
of his that had been going on for four years. Sick. You'd think that the
parents would notice these things happening. At least I hope I would if my
kids were in that situation.

Richard

Everyone is abnormal in their own little way. It is when your abnormality
causes you to murder, rape or harm others, then snip

Moments ago you were describing the extreme lengths to which you would
go in order to harm somebody.

No, I was describing what I thought the punishment should be. Read the
*whole* post before you reply and call me a torturer. I was simply giving my
opinion on what they deserve. I bet you would get a lot of job applications
for the torturer positions though. I like to make music. I don't have the
stomach for the torture thing. There are plenty of people who would enjoy
such a thing. I start gagging from the sight of blood or smell of excrement.
I wouldn't last 2 minutes in that job.

I would happily design the instruments though. There would be a lot of rusty
mild steel involved. I am sure that Uday's prison would have some suitable
designs to work from.

I have a list of 1000's. 16 within a 3 block radius of my house. I don't
run snip

Getting obsessive yet?


Nah, its simple, you go to the state attorney's web site, download the list.
It is all or nothing. Takes about 2-3 minutes to download. There are 1000's
in the list (with photos) and it is on my hard drive. Every other month or
so, I renew it and see who the latest neighborhood additions are. You can
search by zip code: ) Brilliant. Takes about 2-3 minutes to download, 10
minutes to pull the new profiles on the local pervs. I think this is one of
the most downloaded files on our state's internet site.

My son will have all of the neighborhood perv photos memorized by the
time
he is 6,

Sounds traumatic.

Not as traumatic as a 45 year old sleazebag sodomizing him and possibly
giving him a life long venereal disease, with the mental complications that
go along with this. You raise your victim your way, I'll raise someone who
can see the warning signs and knows what to do when the slimy pervert tries
to move in for the kill.

You don't need to traumatize a child to show him who the neighborhood evil
boogeymen are, and they are *evil*. Not only that, you don't need to
traumatize a child to train them for a contingency. They actually like the
drills. Just last night, I saw a story on the news where an 8 year old boy
successfully defended himself against such a lowlife goodfornothing pervert.
(we are averaging 2 child molestation cases on the news per night here, it
is a problem of epidemic proportions) They interviewed his parents and they
demonstrated how they turned the self defense instruction into a game that
the child enjoyed. I want my boy to have that kind of preparation.

I am sure that your politically correct, uber sensitive attitude does great
in the coffee house with the other liberals, but see how the parents of a
fresh victim recieve it. Send me a note when your kid gets molested and tell
me how you feel about it. Go explain to victim Daddy that "he is just sick.
It isn't his fault. He can be cured. He deserves our compassion."... give it
up man! Maybe they would buy it after 2 years of brainwashing with a
psychiatrist, but I am not buying it. Send your opinion to Dr. Phil or
Oprah. Maybe they will understand you and agree.

love it or leave it, you aren't gonna change my opinion. I wouldn't bother
wasting my time.



--
S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t

Everyone is abnormal in their own little way. It is when your abnormality
causes you to murder, rape or harm others, then snip

Moments ago you were describing the extreme lengths to which you would
go in order to harm somebody.

No, I was describing what I thought the punishment should be. Read the
*whole* post before you reply and call me a torturer. I was simply giving my
opinion on what they deserve. I bet you would get a lot of job applications
for the torturer positions though. I like to make music. I don't have the
stomach for the torture thing. There are plenty of people who would enjoy
such a thing. I start gagging from the sight of blood or smell of excrement.
I wouldn't last 2 minutes in that job.

I would happily design the instruments though. There would be a lot of rusty
mild steel involved. I am sure that Uday's prison would have some suitable
designs to work from.

I have a list of 1000's. 16 within a 3 block radius of my house. I don't
run snip

Getting obsessive yet?


Nah, its simple, you go to the state attorney's web site, download the list.
It is all or nothing. Takes about 2-3 minutes to download. There are 1000's
in the list (with photos) and it is on my hard drive. Every other month or
so, I renew it and see who the latest neighborhood additions are. You can
search by zip code: ) Brilliant. Takes about 2-3 minutes to download, 10
minutes to pull the new profiles on the local pervs. I think this is one of
the most downloaded files on our state's internet site.

My son will have all of the neighborhood perv photos memorized by the
time
he is 6,

Sounds traumatic.

Not as traumatic as a 45 year old sleazebag sodomizing him and possibly
giving him a life long venereal disease, with the mental complications that
go along with this. You raise your victim your way, I'll raise someone who
can see the warning signs and knows what to do when the slimy pervert tries
to move in for the kill.

You don't need to traumatize a child to show him who the neighborhood evil
boogeymen are, and they are *evil*. Not only that, you don't need to
traumatize a child to train them for a contingency. They actually like the
drills. Just last night, I saw a story on the news where an 8 year old boy
successfully defended himself against such a lowlife goodfornothing pervert.
(we are averaging 2 child molestation cases on the news per night here, it
is a problem of epidemic proportions) They interviewed his parents and they
demonstrated how they turned the self defense instruction into a game that
the child enjoyed. I want my boy to have that kind of preparation.

I am sure that your politically correct, uber sensitive attitude does great
in the coffee house with the other liberals, but see how the parents of a
fresh victim recieve it. Send me a note when your kid gets molested and tell
me how you feel about it. Go explain to victim Daddy that "he is just sick.
It isn't his fault. He can be cured. He deserves our compassion."... give it
up man! Maybe they would buy it after 2 years of brainwashing with a
psychiatrist, but I am not buying it. Send your opinion to Dr. Phil or
Oprah. Maybe they will understand you and agree.

love it or leave it, you aren't gonna change my opinion. I wouldn't bother
wasting my time.



--
S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t

That's the spirit!
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
Ian Molton said:

So, take the sick and kill them, eh?

No, just the chronic pedophiles.

should we also tar and feather them?

Nope, just cut off their dicks 'n be done with it.

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

That's the spirit!
"Sander deWaal" wrote in message
...
Ian Molton said:

So, take the sick and kill them, eh?

No, just the chronic pedophiles.

should we also tar and feather them?

Nope, just cut off their dicks 'n be done with it.

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

For no-hopers castration is a plausible means of treatment.

Actually G, castration is classed right up there with torture as "cruel and
unusual punishment". And he didn't say castration, he said "Nope, just cut
off their dicks 'n be done with it."

You seem to have a problem reading today.

You are no better than I am bro. Now I feel a lot better ; ) NOT.

You don't think that every day would be a torture with your little man cut
off? Let's get philosophical here. Torture torture is likely to be as
torturous as amputation. The stump hurts, you get phantom pain, depression,
you can't jerk off. That is a fate worse than death or torture by itself.
You grow man teets... damn.

You are a sick *******.

"G.Snail" wrote in message
...
Sander deWaal wrote:

So, take the sick and kill them, eh?

No, just the chronic pedophiles.

should we also tar and feather them?

Nope, just cut off their dicks 'n be done with it.

For no-hopers castration is a plausible means of treatment.


--
S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t

For no-hopers castration is a plausible means of treatment.

Actually G, castration is classed right up there with torture as "cruel and
unusual punishment". And he didn't say castration, he said "Nope, just cut
off their dicks 'n be done with it."

You seem to have a problem reading today.

You are no better than I am bro. Now I feel a lot better ; ) NOT.

You don't think that every day would be a torture with your little man cut
off? Let's get philosophical here. Torture torture is likely to be as
torturous as amputation. The stump hurts, you get phantom pain, depression,
you can't jerk off. That is a fate worse than death or torture by itself.
You grow man teets... damn.

You are a sick *******.

"G.Snail" wrote in message
...
Sander deWaal wrote:

So, take the sick and kill them, eh?

No, just the chronic pedophiles.

should we also tar and feather them?

Nope, just cut off their dicks 'n be done with it.

For no-hopers castration is a plausible means of treatment.


--
S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
om...
I'm dicgusted by the way this guy is persecuted. There is no proof
that he's done anything with these boys except shared his bed with
them. As he points out it is the most loving thin g a man can do -
share his bed with a boy. I do it all the time too with my
neighborhood boys, nephews and sometimes with my own daughter dressed
as a boy since my own boy died a few years ago. I tell you a girl can
make a good boy substitute with the righr haircut and a little rubber
supplement from a "love" shop ;-)

Touching a boy is not having sex if the boy is OK with it even
private-part-touching. The boy can always say no and only stands to
lose ice-cream, soda-pop and maybe a free day at an amusement-park.
Many boys simply need touching because their parents and friends won't
do it and they feel left out of any intimacy in their lives and can
become dangerous criminals if not touched by some-one. ;-(

Boys need little love in their lives too!

Just my 2-cents.

Boon, Middius, the Devil, et al.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
om...
I'm dicgusted by the way this guy is persecuted. There is no proof
that he's done anything with these boys except shared his bed with
them. As he points out it is the most loving thin g a man can do -
share his bed with a boy. I do it all the time too with my
neighborhood boys, nephews and sometimes with my own daughter dressed
as a boy since my own boy died a few years ago. I tell you a girl can
make a good boy substitute with the righr haircut and a little rubber
supplement from a "love" shop ;-)

Touching a boy is not having sex if the boy is OK with it even
private-part-touching. The boy can always say no and only stands to
lose ice-cream, soda-pop and maybe a free day at an amusement-park.
Many boys simply need touching because their parents and friends won't
do it and they feel left out of any intimacy in their lives and can
become dangerous criminals if not touched by some-one. ;-(

Boys need little love in their lives too!

Just my 2-cents.

Boon, Middius, the Devil, et al.

"G.Snail" wrote in message
...
Joseph Oberlander wrote:

It's actually quite sad. The problem isn't one of him being a pedophile,
but his not coming to terms with another problem - that he wishes that
he was a woman.

That's a new one on me. You worked that out how exactly?

It's more probable that Jacko is locked into a child-like mentality
because he never got the opportunity to develop and progress through
puberty into adulthood in a normal way, and it's common knowledge that
he was intimidated and whipped by his father during his formative
years. Not a recipe for success.

It could be argued that sleeping alongside young boys is harmless, but
I think most people would identify that behaviour as being intuitively
wrong on some level or other. Jacko is patently disturbed, and for all
we know there could be merit to the accusation.

You have a long lost brother?
--
S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t

"G.Snail" wrote in message
...
Joseph Oberlander wrote:

It's actually quite sad. The problem isn't one of him being a pedophile,
but his not coming to terms with another problem - that he wishes that
he was a woman.

That's a new one on me. You worked that out how exactly?

It's more probable that Jacko is locked into a child-like mentality
because he never got the opportunity to develop and progress through
puberty into adulthood in a normal way, and it's common knowledge that
he was intimidated and whipped by his father during his formative
years. Not a recipe for success.

It could be argued that sleeping alongside young boys is harmless, but
I think most people would identify that behaviour as being intuitively
wrong on some level or other. Jacko is patently disturbed, and for all
we know there could be merit to the accusation.

You have a long lost brother?
--
S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t

There's gotta be something wrong with a guy that sqeaks like a girl and
holds his nuts on stage.

There's gotta be something wrong with a guy that sqeaks like a girl and
holds his nuts on stage.

I don't see how castration could be considered to be any of those
things when you have patient consent.

Who said anything about consent.

And he didn't say castration, he said "Nope, just cut
off their dicks 'n be done with it."

Your powers of observation are most impressive! Yes, he said that, I
said something else. That's how talking works.

I was under the impression we were posting electronic messages to a mailing
list. Talking has nothing to do with it.

You seem to have a problem reading today.

No - you have a problem communicating effectively.

You are a moron aren't you?

You are taking my thoughts out of context and trying to give the impression
to the casual reader that I am saying something that I am not. This is
called lying and slander. It is a severe communication problem and everyone
on this forum can see it. If effective communication consists of lies and
slander, yep, I have a communication problem.

First you say

--snip--
Moments ago you were describing the extreme lengths to which you would
go in order to harm somebody.
--snip--

when what I actually said was:

--snip--
They need to first be tortured for about 10 years, 24x7, then put to death
by grown up child molestation victims in the most painful way possible...
Mussolini style flaying with a gasoline marinade. I am sorry but cruel and
unusual crimes need cruel and unusual punishment.
--snip--

Nowhere in this paragraph does it say that I want to be the one doing the
torturing or that I was considering going out and flaying people.

So which is it. Did you lie, or not comprehend my post? Looks to me like it
is one or the other.

I am describing what they deserve, what I would recommend as a punishment,
and that the child molestation victims should be the ones doing it. I
already told you once, I don't have the stomach for such activity, and it
really isn't in my nature to even have the slightest inkling of a desire to
hurt anyone.

I am mr nice guy.

However, you, my friend, have a chip on your shoulder the size of a TC
powercore CPU and some reading comprehension issues. Maybe you should go
drink it off with Ian and his reformed child molester friends before this
gets ugly, you guys get all ****ed off and start stalking me. You are the
ones scaring me now, really. Talking about castration and ****. Please don't
castrate me, I beg you. Just leave me alone you big lying slandering child
molester sympathizing bullies! You guys are the scary ones. Stay back, I
know karate!

Where will I go hide... ohhh the humanity.

By the way, I think that castration involves removing the testicles.

just cut
off their dicks 'n be done with it

describes removing the penis.

I don't see how castration could be considered to be any of those
things when you have patient consent.

Who said anything about consent.

And he didn't say castration, he said "Nope, just cut
off their dicks 'n be done with it."

Your powers of observation are most impressive! Yes, he said that, I
said something else. That's how talking works.

I was under the impression we were posting electronic messages to a mailing
list. Talking has nothing to do with it.

You seem to have a problem reading today.

No - you have a problem communicating effectively.

You are a moron aren't you?

You are taking my thoughts out of context and trying to give the impression
to the casual reader that I am saying something that I am not. This is
called lying and slander. It is a severe communication problem and everyone
on this forum can see it. If effective communication consists of lies and
slander, yep, I have a communication problem.

First you say

--snip--
Moments ago you were describing the extreme lengths to which you would
go in order to harm somebody.
--snip--

when what I actually said was:

--snip--
They need to first be tortured for about 10 years, 24x7, then put to death
by grown up child molestation victims in the most painful way possible...
Mussolini style flaying with a gasoline marinade. I am sorry but cruel and
unusual crimes need cruel and unusual punishment.
--snip--

Nowhere in this paragraph does it say that I want to be the one doing the
torturing or that I was considering going out and flaying people.

So which is it. Did you lie, or not comprehend my post? Looks to me like it
is one or the other.

I am describing what they deserve, what I would recommend as a punishment,
and that the child molestation victims should be the ones doing it. I
already told you once, I don't have the stomach for such activity, and it
really isn't in my nature to even have the slightest inkling of a desire to
hurt anyone.

I am mr nice guy.

However, you, my friend, have a chip on your shoulder the size of a TC
powercore CPU and some reading comprehension issues. Maybe you should go
drink it off with Ian and his reformed child molester friends before this
gets ugly, you guys get all ****ed off and start stalking me. You are the
ones scaring me now, really. Talking about castration and ****. Please don't
castrate me, I beg you. Just leave me alone you big lying slandering child
molester sympathizing bullies! You guys are the scary ones. Stay back, I
know karate!

Where will I go hide... ohhh the humanity.

By the way, I think that castration involves removing the testicles.

just cut
off their dicks 'n be done with it

describes removing the penis.

2mb wrote:

I don't see how castration could be considered to be any of those
things when you have patient consent.

Who said anything about consent.

This thread is way off of da topic in all newsgroups the original
spoofer posted his sick crap in. Move on ....


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
************************************************** ***********
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
************************************************** ***********

2mb wrote:

I don't see how castration could be considered to be any of those
things when you have patient consent.

Who said anything about consent.

This thread is way off of da topic in all newsgroups the original
spoofer posted his sick crap in. Move on ....


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
************************************************** ***********
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
************************************************** ***********

George M. Middius wrote in message . ..
Another case of Usenet Masochism Syndrome is confessed. ThePaulThomas
said:

The real Arny [Kroofeces] has thousands of posts here on
r.a.p. which I always enjoy reading.

Not to worry, progress has been reported. There may be a cure soon.

There won't be a "cure" for this sort of nonsense until people
realise what they're up against...
http://www.importanceofphilosophy.co...tUniverse.html

George M. Middius wrote in message . ..
Another case of Usenet Masochism Syndrome is confessed. ThePaulThomas
said:

The real Arny [Kroofeces] has thousands of posts here on
r.a.p. which I always enjoy reading.

Not to worry, progress has been reported. There may be a cure soon.

There won't be a "cure" for this sort of nonsense until people
realise what they're up against...
http://www.importanceofphilosophy.co...tUniverse.html

Peter,
You are absolutely right. I am sincerely sorry.

l8,
Neil
"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...
2mb wrote:

I don't see how castration could be considered to be any of those
things when you have patient consent.

Who said anything about consent.

This thread is way off of da topic in all newsgroups the original
spoofer posted his sick crap in. Move on ....


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
************************************************** ***********
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
************************************************** ***********

Peter,
You are absolutely right. I am sincerely sorry.

l8,
Neil
"Peter Larsen" wrote in message
...
2mb wrote:

I don't see how castration could be considered to be any of those
things when you have patient consent.

Who said anything about consent.

This thread is way off of da topic in all newsgroups the original
spoofer posted his sick crap in. Move on ....


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

--
************************************************** ***********
* My site is at: http://www.muyiovatki.dk *
************************************************** ***********

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:54:43 GMT
"2mb" wrote:

If the
person is incurable and dangerous, what's the point? Keep them locked
up in a filthy asylum or jail until they die (or get murdered in jail
by thugs who happen to be child rape victims)? That is worse than a
death sentence

Funnily enough its exactly what you advocated in your earlier post...

I quote:

"I hear this is an incurable disease, a compulsion. There are only 4
ways to fix it, a bullet, lethal injection, electrocution, and
hanging."

and:

"They need to first be tortured for about 10 years, 24x7, then put to
death by grown up child molestation victims in the most painful way
possible..."

Your posts message id was:




Now you've been hoist by your own petard, please kindly leave the group
alone.

--
Spyros lair: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:54:43 GMT
"2mb" wrote:

If the
person is incurable and dangerous, what's the point? Keep them locked
up in a filthy asylum or jail until they die (or get murdered in jail
by thugs who happen to be child rape victims)? That is worse than a
death sentence

Funnily enough its exactly what you advocated in your earlier post...

I quote:

"I hear this is an incurable disease, a compulsion. There are only 4
ways to fix it, a bullet, lethal injection, electrocution, and
hanging."

and:

"They need to first be tortured for about 10 years, 24x7, then put to
death by grown up child molestation victims in the most painful way
possible..."

Your posts message id was:




Now you've been hoist by your own petard, please kindly leave the group
alone.

--
Spyros lair: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:54:43 GMT
"2mb" wrote:

My son will have all of the neighborhood perv photos memorized by the
time he is 6,

WHY? whats the point?

and instructions will be drilled into him on what to do *when* they
try something.

The same rule applies to all strangers. telling him some strangers are
worse than others only weakens the rule as you have muddied the water on
how to apply it. now you have a non-absolute rule.

Try taking a good book on parenting out of the library.

Do you want them around your kids unattended? How about outside of the
neighborhood elementary school when it lets out for the afternoon.

I sincerely hope that whilst your kids are at a vulnerable age (ie.
before the dont approach strangers rule is made) that you are there to
pick them up, and that the teacher wont release them without your
presence...

Pocket full of candy, or pills... give me a break.

You clearly also know jack **** about paedophiles in any case. the
predatory type you describe are by *FAR* the rarer variety, immensly
outnumbered by the opportunistic type.

They need to be dealt with
permanently. Every last one I have ever seen on the news is a repeat
offender.

Duh. why do you think the news was interested? which is a better story -
first time or multiple repeat offender?

--
Spyros lair: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 19:54:43 GMT
"2mb" wrote:

My son will have all of the neighborhood perv photos memorized by the
time he is 6,

WHY? whats the point?

and instructions will be drilled into him on what to do *when* they
try something.

The same rule applies to all strangers. telling him some strangers are
worse than others only weakens the rule as you have muddied the water on
how to apply it. now you have a non-absolute rule.

Try taking a good book on parenting out of the library.

Do you want them around your kids unattended? How about outside of the
neighborhood elementary school when it lets out for the afternoon.

I sincerely hope that whilst your kids are at a vulnerable age (ie.
before the dont approach strangers rule is made) that you are there to
pick them up, and that the teacher wont release them without your
presence...

Pocket full of candy, or pills... give me a break.

You clearly also know jack **** about paedophiles in any case. the
predatory type you describe are by *FAR* the rarer variety, immensly
outnumbered by the opportunistic type.

They need to be dealt with
permanently. Every last one I have ever seen on the news is a repeat
offender.

Duh. why do you think the news was interested? which is a better story -
first time or multiple repeat offender?

--
Spyros lair: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:42:03 GMT
"2mb" wrote:

Moments ago you were describing the extreme lengths to which you would
go in order to harm somebody.

No, I was describing what I thought the punishment should be.

Ah right - an armchair executioner - too gutless to do it yourself.

--
Spyros lair: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with ketchup.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:42:03 GMT
"2mb" wrote:

Moments ago you were describing the extreme lengths to which you would
go in order to harm somebody.

No, I was describing what I thought the punishment should be.

Ah right - an armchair executioner - too gutless to do it yourself.

--
Spyros lair: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with ketchup.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
om...
I'm dicgusted by the way this guy is persecuted. There is no proof
that he's done anything with these boys except shared his bed with
them. As he points out it is the most loving thin g a man can do -
share his bed with a boy. I do it all the time too with my

Nice one George. Even surpasses you normal taste standards.

geoff

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
om...
I'm dicgusted by the way this guy is persecuted. There is no proof
that he's done anything with these boys except shared his bed with
them. As he points out it is the most loving thin g a man can do -
share his bed with a boy. I do it all the time too with my

Nice one George. Even surpasses you normal taste standards.

geoff

(Arny Krueger) wrote in message . com...
I'm dicgusted by the way this guy is persecuted. There is no proof
that he's done anything with these boys except shared his bed with
them. As he points out it is the most loving thin g a man can do -
share his bed with a boy. I do it all the time too with my
neighborhood boys, nephews and sometimes with my own daughter dressed
as a boy since my own boy died a few years ago. I tell you a girl can
make a good boy substitute with the righr haircut and a little rubber
supplement from a "love" shop ;-)

Touching a boy is not having sex if the boy is OK with it even
private-part-touching. The boy can always say no and only stands to
lose ice-cream, soda-pop and maybe a free day at an amusement-park.
Many boys simply need touching because their parents and friends won't
do it and they feel left out of any intimacy in their lives and can
become dangerous criminals if not touched by some-one. ;-(

Boys need little love in their lives too!

Just my 2-cents.

Arny Krueger

Choking on pizza...that's not so bad....just picture wacko jacko
sharing a bed with liz taylor
;-)
William

(Arny Krueger) wrote in message . com...
I'm dicgusted by the way this guy is persecuted. There is no proof
that he's done anything with these boys except shared his bed with
them. As he points out it is the most loving thin g a man can do -
share his bed with a boy. I do it all the time too with my
neighborhood boys, nephews and sometimes with my own daughter dressed
as a boy since my own boy died a few years ago. I tell you a girl can
make a good boy substitute with the righr haircut and a little rubber
supplement from a "love" shop ;-)

Touching a boy is not having sex if the boy is OK with it even
private-part-touching. The boy can always say no and only stands to
lose ice-cream, soda-pop and maybe a free day at an amusement-park.
Many boys simply need touching because their parents and friends won't
do it and they feel left out of any intimacy in their lives and can
become dangerous criminals if not touched by some-one. ;-(

Boys need little love in their lives too!

Just my 2-cents.

Arny Krueger

Choking on pizza...that's not so bad....just picture wacko jacko
sharing a bed with liz taylor
;-)
William

"G.S. Nail" wrote in message
...
Could
result in nightmares too, possibly neurosis later in life?

Yeah. That's the real double edged sword. Sometimes you can screw your kid
up worse by doing things like this (not that what the pervs doing to them
would be right).

"G.S. Nail" wrote in message
...
Could
result in nightmares too, possibly neurosis later in life?

Yeah. That's the real double edged sword. Sometimes you can screw your kid
up worse by doing things like this (not that what the pervs doing to them
would be right).

"G.S. Nail" wrote in message
...
George M. Middius wrote:

Actually G, castration is classed right up there with torture as
"cruel and
unusual punishment".

I don't see how castration could be considered to be any of those
things when you have patient consent.

It's hardly "consent" when the other choice is life in prison.

I didn't describe that circumstance. If a person is found guilty of a
crime, they should serve the time. No doubt a convict can consider
taking various courses of action to moderate their behaviour, which
would be taken into account by the parole board.


A little naive, there. Maybe it would all be a manipulative snow job.




----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups
---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

"G.S. Nail" wrote in message
...
George M. Middius wrote:

Actually G, castration is classed right up there with torture as
"cruel and
unusual punishment".

I don't see how castration could be considered to be any of those
things when you have patient consent.

It's hardly "consent" when the other choice is life in prison.

I didn't describe that circumstance. If a person is found guilty of a
crime, they should serve the time. No doubt a convict can consider
taking various courses of action to moderate their behaviour, which
would be taken into account by the parole board.


A little naive, there. Maybe it would all be a manipulative snow job.




----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups
---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

I still feel no compulsion to murder paedophiles. If they are ill, they
shouldnt be punished for their illness. They should be helped. Perhaps
some paedophiles arent ill, but then what would you say they are?

Would you say the same thing about serial rapists and murderers? Clearly
there is something wrong with these people, but to say that they are ill and
should be "helped" rather than punished makes them appear as the victims.
What about the young lives that they've ruined?

This is probably the most ****ed crock of **** I've ever read. People who
victimize young children are among the lowest scum on the planet and need to
pay for their crimes.

I still feel no compulsion to murder paedophiles. If they are ill, they
shouldnt be punished for their illness. They should be helped. Perhaps
some paedophiles arent ill, but then what would you say they are?

Would you say the same thing about serial rapists and murderers? Clearly
there is something wrong with these people, but to say that they are ill and
should be "helped" rather than punished makes them appear as the victims.
What about the young lives that they've ruined?

This is probably the most ****ed crock of **** I've ever read. People who
victimize young children are among the lowest scum on the planet and need to
pay for their crimes.

G.Snail wrote:

Joseph Oberlander wrote:


It's actually quite sad. The problem isn't one of him being a pedophile,
but his not coming to terms with another problem - that he wishes that
he was a woman.


That's a new one on me. You worked that out how exactly?

My father has a PHD in psychology and my ex a BA in it as well - I grew
up well versed in the various theories and such.

It's not a developmental problem - listen to his interviews - it's
extremely obvious if you close your eyes and imagine a more female voice
in its place - he fits the transexual pattern perfectly.

Nothing wrong with that - I hear Ru Paul is quite happy with her life,
for instance.

It's more probable that Jacko is locked into a child-like mentality
because he never got the opportunity to develop and progress through
puberty into adulthood in a normal way, and it's common knowledge that
he was intimidated and whipped by his father during his formative
years. Not a recipe for success.

My guess is that it's not that so much as he's trapped in a world
and body that's not what he desires. He's unable to or unwilling to
deal with this as he is under a 24/7 spotlight.

So he's regressing to a child.

It could be argued that sleeping alongside young boys is harmless, but
I think most people would identify that behaviour as being intuitively
wrong on some level or other. Jacko is patently disturbed, and for all
we know there could be merit to the accusation.

The sad thing is everyone is putting him in a box as if he was some pedophile,
when he really is just a lonely, troubled person who needs therapy.