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America has a great new concert hall
"Robert Morein" wrote in message .. . In article , "Soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message oups.com... Soundhaspriority wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message m... In article , "Soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . com ... In article , "Harry Lavo" wrote: "Soundhaspriority" wrote in message ... "dave weil" wrote in message ... The Schermerhorn is finally open. It's a stunning hall and it's reported to have incredible acoustics. It's very similar to both Boston Symphony Hall and the Concertgeboux in terms of volume, layout and seating capacity. The acousticians tried to combine the best of both halls, the volume and projection of the Concertgeobux combined with the clarity of the Boston. Everything has been factored in, from the seat padding to the design of refracting and reflecting surfaces. The hall itself is separated from the "outer box" by a three (or is it two?) inch acoustic gap and all of the mechanicals are isolated in the outer box. Here's the fact sheet: http://www.nashvillesymphony.org/res/ssc_fact_sheet_10-31.pdf#search=%22 S che rmerhorn%20acoustic%20design%22 Compare to Verizon Hall in Philly. Verizon Hall is separated from the "outer box" via a 10 foot space. The outer box stands free within the Kimmel Center, which also houses the smaller Perelman Theater. Unfortunately, it appears to have serious problems. See http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15291303.htm for a description of the problems. The ambitious design is described by the acoustic architectural firm he http://www.artec-usa.com/03_projects/performing_arts_venues/kimmel_cente r /ve rizon_hall_kimmel_philadelphia.html, "Verizon Hall may be the only concert hall in the world to be shaped as a cello, a design proposed by the world-renowned architect, Rafael Viñoly. In addition, the hall includes 260,000 cubic feet of coupled reverberation space, motorized adjustable acoustical banners, and a three-piece vertically moving acoustical canopy system, which hangs above the stage area. The moving elements can be adjusted to tailor the room, visually and acoustically, to the needs of the performance." See http://blogs.ocregister.com/mangan/a...08/post_6.html Is Boston's Symphony Hall, that plain rectangular box, still America's favorite symphony hall? It is still right up there with the old Carnegie (and some would argue also the new Carnegie) as the best sounding in this country. I've not had the pleasure of hearing Symphony Hall, but I can testify that Carnegie is the best hall that I've ever heard, from a variety of audience seats and from the conductor podium, bar none. It's not even close to anywhere else in my experience. Jenn, how do you get to Carnegie Hall? From 17th Ave, turn west on W 57th St. and you're right there! I just want to point out a slight error forgiveable to any out-of-towner: It's 7th Avenue. There is no 17th Avenue. By subway, from Penn Station: Exit Penn Station on the east side at 32 Street. Cross 7th Avenue, walk east one block, and enter the Herald Square subway station. Take the N,R,Q,orW to 57th Street. Oh, OK..... Jenn, how do you get to Carnegie Hall? PRACTICE! (and be very lucky) and good! Hey SOUNDHASPRIORITY: Question to whom I presume is a NYC local: If I looked down 7th Ave (away from Central Park, Lincoln Center, etc, toward the Broadway theater area), would the sky there been filled with the WTC towers? Just trying to get my bearings. I had such a wonderful NYC trip, but time didn't allow for a "Ground Zero" visit, regrettably. Jenn, Soundhaspriority, aka me, aka Bob Morein, actually resides a bit NW of Philadelphia, 72.07 miles from the WTC as the crow flies. I consider myself a "virtual", cultural resident of the Big Apple, having made it the center of my cultural affections many years ago. To compensate for the fact of not being an actual NYC resident, I did some research with a mapping program, DeLorme Topo 6.0. The WTC site is 4.10 miles from the intersection of 7th & 57th. That's about 21,000 feet. The towers were about 1400 feet high. From 7th & 57th, the towers reached about 3.6 degrees above the horizon. The towers were more closely in line with 5th Avenue, two avenues toward the east. So I doubt, and do not recall, that the towers would have been visible from the intersection. When I come out of Penn Station at 7th & 32nd, the Empire State building is only two avenues east on 33rd Street. Yet it cannot be seen, because nearer, but shorter buildings take up a much greater vertical angle. The view of the Towers I remember best is from the New Jersey Transit train as it approaches NYC from the south on the Amtrak Northeast Corridor. It passes over miles of wetlands, of marshes of bullrush barely capable of supporting a man and his dog (a quote, I can't remember from what), the same land described in the beginning of The Great Gatsby. From this vantage, the Twin Towers were a glorious symbol for the many foreign tourists who also take that train. If Chicago is "the city of broad shoulders", NYC was known as the city of skyscrapers and fast elevators. It was fun to play tour guide on that train. But now the towers are gone, anemically replaced by the Empire State, the Chrysler Building, and, I think, one more building in the financial district that I can't name. When the Towers stood, I had ambiguous feelings toward them. I never went inside. Crossing the WTC plaza, they affected me with inhuman scale, failing to warm the neighborhood, which relied still on decrepit old buildings on side streets to provide the amenities that make even a workday existence bearable. But now they are gone. I miss them the way I miss the other trademark aspirations to greatness that this country made before encountering the limits of growth. I'm not sure why. It brings to mind all the contradictions of being American: opportunities, some real, some virtual, some imaginary. Patriotism that tries to imply kinship with strangers, yet cities full of neighborhoods in which I cannot walk. Usenet newsgroups of vicious, hostile people. Invitations to kindness, or evil. Real heroes who don't know they are, and people who imagine themselve such. On a day like this, I define myself by the illusions I choose to keep, the hopes I cherish, and willing blindness toward omnipresent evil. Bob Morein (215) 646-4894 Sorry guys, forgery. Robert Morein Shop "N Bag, Penn Churches will no doubt be along anytime soon, to correct your mistakes, and give everyone his expert opinion, on all the above. |
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America has a great new concert hall
"bassett" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message .. . In article , "Soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message oups.com... Soundhaspriority wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message m... In article , "Soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . com ... In article , "Harry Lavo" wrote: "Soundhaspriority" wrote in message ... "dave weil" wrote in message ... The Schermerhorn is finally open. It's a stunning hall and it's reported to have incredible acoustics. It's very similar to both Boston Symphony Hall and the Concertgeboux in terms of volume, layout and seating capacity. The acousticians tried to combine the best of both halls, the volume and projection of the Concertgeobux combined with the clarity of the Boston. Everything has been factored in, from the seat padding to the design of refracting and reflecting surfaces. The hall itself is separated from the "outer box" by a three (or is it two?) inch acoustic gap and all of the mechanicals are isolated in the outer box. Here's the fact sheet: http://www.nashvillesymphony.org/res/ssc_fact_sheet_10-31.pdf#search=%22 S che rmerhorn%20acoustic%20design%22 Compare to Verizon Hall in Philly. Verizon Hall is separated from the "outer box" via a 10 foot space. The outer box stands free within the Kimmel Center, which also houses the smaller Perelman Theater. Unfortunately, it appears to have serious problems. See http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15291303.htm for a description of the problems. The ambitious design is described by the acoustic architectural firm he http://www.artec-usa.com/03_projects/performing_arts_venues/kimmel_cente r /ve rizon_hall_kimmel_philadelphia.html, "Verizon Hall may be the only concert hall in the world to be shaped as a cello, a design proposed by the world-renowned architect, Rafael Viñoly. In addition, the hall includes 260,000 cubic feet of coupled reverberation space, motorized adjustable acoustical banners, and a three-piece vertically moving acoustical canopy system, which hangs above the stage area. The moving elements can be adjusted to tailor the room, visually and acoustically, to the needs of the performance." See http://blogs.ocregister.com/mangan/a...08/post_6.html Is Boston's Symphony Hall, that plain rectangular box, still America's favorite symphony hall? It is still right up there with the old Carnegie (and some would argue also the new Carnegie) as the best sounding in this country. I've not had the pleasure of hearing Symphony Hall, but I can testify that Carnegie is the best hall that I've ever heard, from a variety of audience seats and from the conductor podium, bar none. It's not even close to anywhere else in my experience. Jenn, how do you get to Carnegie Hall? From 17th Ave, turn west on W 57th St. and you're right there! I just want to point out a slight error forgiveable to any out-of-towner: It's 7th Avenue. There is no 17th Avenue. By subway, from Penn Station: Exit Penn Station on the east side at 32 Street. Cross 7th Avenue, walk east one block, and enter the Herald Square subway station. Take the N,R,Q,orW to 57th Street. Oh, OK..... Jenn, how do you get to Carnegie Hall? PRACTICE! (and be very lucky) and good! Hey SOUNDHASPRIORITY: Question to whom I presume is a NYC local: If I looked down 7th Ave (away from Central Park, Lincoln Center, etc, toward the Broadway theater area), would the sky there been filled with the WTC towers? Just trying to get my bearings. I had such a wonderful NYC trip, but time didn't allow for a "Ground Zero" visit, regrettably. Jenn, Soundhaspriority, aka me, aka Bob Morein, actually resides a bit NW of Philadelphia, 72.07 miles from the WTC as the crow flies. I consider myself a "virtual", cultural resident of the Big Apple, having made it the center of my cultural affections many years ago. To compensate for the fact of not being an actual NYC resident, I did some research with a mapping program, DeLorme Topo 6.0. The WTC site is 4.10 miles from the intersection of 7th & 57th. That's about 21,000 feet. The towers were about 1400 feet high. From 7th & 57th, the towers reached about 3.6 degrees above the horizon. The towers were more closely in line with 5th Avenue, two avenues toward the east. So I doubt, and do not recall, that the towers would have been visible from the intersection. When I come out of Penn Station at 7th & 32nd, the Empire State building is only two avenues east on 33rd Street. Yet it cannot be seen, because nearer, but shorter buildings take up a much greater vertical angle. The view of the Towers I remember best is from the New Jersey Transit train as it approaches NYC from the south on the Amtrak Northeast Corridor. It passes over miles of wetlands, of marshes of bullrush barely capable of supporting a man and his dog (a quote, I can't remember from what), the same land described in the beginning of The Great Gatsby. From this vantage, the Twin Towers were a glorious symbol for the many foreign tourists who also take that train. If Chicago is "the city of broad shoulders", NYC was known as the city of skyscrapers and fast elevators. It was fun to play tour guide on that train. But now the towers are gone, anemically replaced by the Empire State, the Chrysler Building, and, I think, one more building in the financial district that I can't name. When the Towers stood, I had ambiguous feelings toward them. I never went inside. Crossing the WTC plaza, they affected me with inhuman scale, failing to warm the neighborhood, which relied still on decrepit old buildings on side streets to provide the amenities that make even a workday existence bearable. But now they are gone. I miss them the way I miss the other trademark aspirations to greatness that this country made before encountering the limits of growth. I'm not sure why. It brings to mind all the contradictions of being American: opportunities, some real, some virtual, some imaginary. Patriotism that tries to imply kinship with strangers, yet cities full of neighborhoods in which I cannot walk. Usenet newsgroups of vicious, hostile people. Invitations to kindness, or evil. Real heroes who don't know they are, and people who imagine themselve such. On a day like this, I define myself by the illusions I choose to keep, the hopes I cherish, and willing blindness toward omnipresent evil. Bob Morein (215) 646-4894 Sorry guys, forgery. Robert Morein Shop "N Bag, Penn Churches will no doubt be along anytime soon, to correct your mistakes, and give everyone his expert opinion, on all the above. Sorry Bassett. Can't oblige. I thought it an excellent and thought- inspiring thread. I have worked on recording projects at the Concertgebouw on several occasions. A wonderful concert hall with fine-sounding organ. Unfortunately, I have never been to Boston's Symphony Hall:-( Maybe one day:-) I notice, Bassett, that you had no observations to make on what Robert, Jen, Dave and Harry wrote above. So why did you bother to post at all? :-(( Iain |
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If I looked down 7th Ave (away from Central Park, Lincoln Center,
etc, toward the Broadway theater area), would the sky there been filled with the WTC towers? No. They were further east. I can tell you from personal experience that had you stood in the middle of 7th Ave in Midtown looking downtown on September 11th, one could not directly see the smoke plumes, nor, later the dust cloud. There was a darkness at the end of the island, just a general haze, but there are too many tall buildings closer in to have a clear view that far downtown. Just trying to get my bearings. I had such a wonderful NYC trip, but time didn't allow for a "Ground Zero" visit, regrettably. Well, it will be a long time before anything gets built there, so you can check again in the future. It's moving. Scott Fraser |
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America has a great new concert hall
"Iain Churches" wrote in message . .. "bassett" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message .. . In article , "Soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message oups.com... Soundhaspriority wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message m... In article , "Soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . com ... In article , "Harry Lavo" wrote: "Soundhaspriority" wrote in message ... "dave weil" wrote in message ... The Schermerhorn is finally open. It's a stunning hall and it's reported to have incredible acoustics. It's very similar to both Boston Symphony Hall and the Concertgeboux in terms of volume, layout and seating capacity. The acousticians tried to combine the best of both halls, the volume and projection of the Concertgeobux combined with the clarity of the Boston. Everything has been factored in, from the seat padding to the design of refracting and reflecting surfaces. The hall itself is separated from the "outer box" by a three (or is it two?) inch acoustic gap and all of the mechanicals are isolated in the outer box. Here's the fact sheet: http://www.nashvillesymphony.org/res/ssc_fact_sheet_10-31.pdf#search=%22 S che rmerhorn%20acoustic%20design%22 Compare to Verizon Hall in Philly. Verizon Hall is separated from the "outer box" via a 10 foot space. The outer box stands free within the Kimmel Center, which also houses the smaller Perelman Theater. Unfortunately, it appears to have serious problems. See http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15291303.htm for a description of the problems. The ambitious design is described by the acoustic architectural firm he http://www.artec-usa.com/03_projects/performing_arts_venues/kimmel_cente r /ve rizon_hall_kimmel_philadelphia.html, "Verizon Hall may be the only concert hall in the world to be shaped as a cello, a design proposed by the world-renowned architect, Rafael Viñoly. In addition, the hall includes 260,000 cubic feet of coupled reverberation space, motorized adjustable acoustical banners, and a three-piece vertically moving acoustical canopy system, which hangs above the stage area. The moving elements can be adjusted to tailor the room, visually and acoustically, to the needs of the performance." See http://blogs.ocregister.com/mangan/a...08/post_6.html Is Boston's Symphony Hall, that plain rectangular box, still America's favorite symphony hall? It is still right up there with the old Carnegie (and some would argue also the new Carnegie) as the best sounding in this country. I've not had the pleasure of hearing Symphony Hall, but I can testify that Carnegie is the best hall that I've ever heard, from a variety of audience seats and from the conductor podium, bar none. It's not even close to anywhere else in my experience. Jenn, how do you get to Carnegie Hall? From 17th Ave, turn west on W 57th St. and you're right there! I just want to point out a slight error forgiveable to any out-of-towner: It's 7th Avenue. There is no 17th Avenue. By subway, from Penn Station: Exit Penn Station on the east side at 32 Street. Cross 7th Avenue, walk east one block, and enter the Herald Square subway station. Take the N,R,Q,orW to 57th Street. Oh, OK..... Jenn, how do you get to Carnegie Hall? PRACTICE! (and be very lucky) and good! Hey SOUNDHASPRIORITY: Question to whom I presume is a NYC local: If I looked down 7th Ave (away from Central Park, Lincoln Center, etc, toward the Broadway theater area), would the sky there been filled with the WTC towers? Just trying to get my bearings. I had such a wonderful NYC trip, but time didn't allow for a "Ground Zero" visit, regrettably. Jenn, Soundhaspriority, aka me, aka Bob Morein, actually resides a bit NW of Philadelphia, 72.07 miles from the WTC as the crow flies. I consider myself a "virtual", cultural resident of the Big Apple, having made it the center of my cultural affections many years ago. To compensate for the fact of not being an actual NYC resident, I did some research with a mapping program, DeLorme Topo 6.0. The WTC site is 4.10 miles from the intersection of 7th & 57th. That's about 21,000 feet. The towers were about 1400 feet high. From 7th & 57th, the towers reached about 3.6 degrees above the horizon. The towers were more closely in line with 5th Avenue, two avenues toward the east. So I doubt, and do not recall, that the towers would have been visible from the intersection. When I come out of Penn Station at 7th & 32nd, the Empire State building is only two avenues east on 33rd Street. Yet it cannot be seen, because nearer, but shorter buildings take up a much greater vertical angle. The view of the Towers I remember best is from the New Jersey Transit train as it approaches NYC from the south on the Amtrak Northeast Corridor. It passes over miles of wetlands, of marshes of bullrush barely capable of supporting a man and his dog (a quote, I can't remember from what), the same land described in the beginning of The Great Gatsby. From this vantage, the Twin Towers were a glorious symbol for the many foreign tourists who also take that train. If Chicago is "the city of broad shoulders", NYC was known as the city of skyscrapers and fast elevators. It was fun to play tour guide on that train. But now the towers are gone, anemically replaced by the Empire State, the Chrysler Building, and, I think, one more building in the financial district that I can't name. When the Towers stood, I had ambiguous feelings toward them. I never went inside. Crossing the WTC plaza, they affected me with inhuman scale, failing to warm the neighborhood, which relied still on decrepit old buildings on side streets to provide the amenities that make even a workday existence bearable. But now they are gone. I miss them the way I miss the other trademark aspirations to greatness that this country made before encountering the limits of growth. I'm not sure why. It brings to mind all the contradictions of being American: opportunities, some real, some virtual, some imaginary. Patriotism that tries to imply kinship with strangers, yet cities full of neighborhoods in which I cannot walk. Usenet newsgroups of vicious, hostile people. Invitations to kindness, or evil. Real heroes who don't know they are, and people who imagine themselve such. On a day like this, I define myself by the illusions I choose to keep, the hopes I cherish, and willing blindness toward omnipresent evil. Bob Morein (215) 646-4894 Sorry guys, forgery. Robert Morein Shop "N Bag, Penn Churches will no doubt be along anytime soon, to correct your mistakes, and give everyone his expert opinion, on all the above. Sorry Bassett. Can't oblige. I thought it an excellent and thought- inspiring thread. I have worked on recording projects at the Concertgebouw on several occasions. A wonderful concert hall with fine-sounding organ. Unfortunately, I have never been to Boston's Symphony Hall:-( Maybe one day:-) I notice, Bassett, that you had no observations to make on what Robert, Jen, Dave and Harry wrote above. So why did you bother to post at all? :-(( Iain Predictable as always,, where would we all be without the know-all churches [he doesn't rate a capital letter to his monica ] giving his valuable opinion on everything. All correct and in it's place.. How bloody boring. Why would anyone want to talk about the sewer called Americia, Just don't remind me. been there, done that. and there woman can't give a good head job to save there lives. But on reflection, there all a lot like you churches.. there also into self-promotion. bassett |
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:49:15 +1000, "bassett"
wrote: "Iain Churches" wrote in message ... "bassett" wrote in message ... "Robert Morein" wrote in message .. . In article , "Soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message oups.com... Soundhaspriority wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message m... In article , "Soundhaspriority" wrote: "Jenn" wrote in message . com ... In article , "Harry Lavo" wrote: "Soundhaspriority" wrote in message ... "dave weil" wrote in message ... The Schermerhorn is finally open. It's a stunning hall and it's reported to have incredible acoustics. It's very similar to both Boston Symphony Hall and the Concertgeboux in terms of volume, layout and seating capacity. The acousticians tried to combine the best of both halls, the volume and projection of the Concertgeobux combined with the clarity of the Boston. Everything has been factored in, from the seat padding to the design of refracting and reflecting surfaces. The hall itself is separated from the "outer box" by a three (or is it two?) inch acoustic gap and all of the mechanicals are isolated in the outer box. Here's the fact sheet: http://www.nashvillesymphony.org/res/ssc_fact_sheet_10-31.pdf#search=%22 S che rmerhorn%20acoustic%20design%22 Compare to Verizon Hall in Philly. Verizon Hall is separated from the "outer box" via a 10 foot space. The outer box stands free within the Kimmel Center, which also houses the smaller Perelman Theater. Unfortunately, it appears to have serious problems. See http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15291303.htm for a description of the problems. The ambitious design is described by the acoustic architectural firm he http://www.artec-usa.com/03_projects/performing_arts_venues/kimmel_cente r /ve rizon_hall_kimmel_philadelphia.html, "Verizon Hall may be the only concert hall in the world to be shaped as a cello, a design proposed by the world-renowned architect, Rafael Viñoly. In addition, the hall includes 260,000 cubic feet of coupled reverberation space, motorized adjustable acoustical banners, and a three-piece vertically moving acoustical canopy system, which hangs above the stage area. The moving elements can be adjusted to tailor the room, visually and acoustically, to the needs of the performance." See http://blogs.ocregister.com/mangan/a...08/post_6.html Is Boston's Symphony Hall, that plain rectangular box, still America's favorite symphony hall? It is still right up there with the old Carnegie (and some would argue also the new Carnegie) as the best sounding in this country. I've not had the pleasure of hearing Symphony Hall, but I can testify that Carnegie is the best hall that I've ever heard, from a variety of audience seats and from the conductor podium, bar none. It's not even close to anywhere else in my experience. Jenn, how do you get to Carnegie Hall? From 17th Ave, turn west on W 57th St. and you're right there! I just want to point out a slight error forgiveable to any out-of-towner: It's 7th Avenue. There is no 17th Avenue. By subway, from Penn Station: Exit Penn Station on the east side at 32 Street. Cross 7th Avenue, walk east one block, and enter the Herald Square subway station. Take the N,R,Q,orW to 57th Street. Oh, OK..... Jenn, how do you get to Carnegie Hall? PRACTICE! (and be very lucky) and good! Hey SOUNDHASPRIORITY: Question to whom I presume is a NYC local: If I looked down 7th Ave (away from Central Park, Lincoln Center, etc, toward the Broadway theater area), would the sky there been filled with the WTC towers? Just trying to get my bearings. I had such a wonderful NYC trip, but time didn't allow for a "Ground Zero" visit, regrettably. Jenn, Soundhaspriority, aka me, aka Bob Morein, actually resides a bit NW of Philadelphia, 72.07 miles from the WTC as the crow flies. I consider myself a "virtual", cultural resident of the Big Apple, having made it the center of my cultural affections many years ago. To compensate for the fact of not being an actual NYC resident, I did some research with a mapping program, DeLorme Topo 6.0. The WTC site is 4.10 miles from the intersection of 7th & 57th. That's about 21,000 feet. The towers were about 1400 feet high. From 7th & 57th, the towers reached about 3.6 degrees above the horizon. The towers were more closely in line with 5th Avenue, two avenues toward the east. So I doubt, and do not recall, that the towers would have been visible from the intersection. When I come out of Penn Station at 7th & 32nd, the Empire State building is only two avenues east on 33rd Street. Yet it cannot be seen, because nearer, but shorter buildings take up a much greater vertical angle. The view of the Towers I remember best is from the New Jersey Transit train as it approaches NYC from the south on the Amtrak Northeast Corridor. It passes over miles of wetlands, of marshes of bullrush barely capable of supporting a man and his dog (a quote, I can't remember from what), the same land described in the beginning of The Great Gatsby. From this vantage, the Twin Towers were a glorious symbol for the many foreign tourists who also take that train. If Chicago is "the city of broad shoulders", NYC was known as the city of skyscrapers and fast elevators. It was fun to play tour guide on that train. But now the towers are gone, anemically replaced by the Empire State, the Chrysler Building, and, I think, one more building in the financial district that I can't name. When the Towers stood, I had ambiguous feelings toward them. I never went inside. Crossing the WTC plaza, they affected me with inhuman scale, failing to warm the neighborhood, which relied still on decrepit old buildings on side streets to provide the amenities that make even a workday existence bearable. But now they are gone. I miss them the way I miss the other trademark aspirations to greatness that this country made before encountering the limits of growth. I'm not sure why. It brings to mind all the contradictions of being American: opportunities, some real, some virtual, some imaginary. Patriotism that tries to imply kinship with strangers, yet cities full of neighborhoods in which I cannot walk. Usenet newsgroups of vicious, hostile people. Invitations to kindness, or evil. Real heroes who don't know they are, and people who imagine themselve such. On a day like this, I define myself by the illusions I choose to keep, the hopes I cherish, and willing blindness toward omnipresent evil. Bob Morein (215) 646-4894 Sorry guys, forgery. Robert Morein Shop "N Bag, Penn Churches will no doubt be along anytime soon, to correct your mistakes, and give everyone his expert opinion, on all the above. Sorry Bassett. Can't oblige. I thought it an excellent and thought- inspiring thread. I have worked on recording projects at the Concertgebouw on several occasions. A wonderful concert hall with fine-sounding organ. Unfortunately, I have never been to Boston's Symphony Hall:-( Maybe one day:-) I notice, Bassett, that you had no observations to make on what Robert, Jen, Dave and Harry wrote above. So why did you bother to post at all? :-(( Iain Predictable as always,, where would we all be without the know-all churches [he doesn't rate a capital letter to his monica ] giving his valuable opinion on everything. All correct and in it's place.. How bloody boring. Why would anyone want to talk about the sewer called Americia, Just don't remind me. been there, done that. and there woman can't give a good head job to save there lives. But on reflection, there all a lot like you churches.. there also into self-promotion. bassett You've gone downhill in the last few months, bassett, and there wasn't a lot of room to manoevre in the first place. |
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"paul packer" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:49:15 +1000, "bassett" wrote: "Iain Churches" wrote in message t... "bassett" wrote in message ... Sorry Bassett. Can't oblige. I thought it an excellent and thought- inspiring thread. I have worked on recording projects at the Concertgebouw on several occasions. A wonderful concert hall with fine-sounding organ. Unfortunately, I have never been to Boston's Symphony Hall:-( Maybe one day:-) I notice, Bassett, that you had no observations to make on what Robert, Jen, Dave and Harry wrote above. So why did you bother to post at all? :-(( Iain Predictable as always,, where would we all be without the know-all churches [he doesn't rate a capital letter to his monica ] giving his valuable opinion on everything. All correct and in it's place.. How bloody boring. Why would anyone want to talk about the sewer called Americia, Just don't remind me. been there, done that. and there woman can't give a good head job to save there lives. But on reflection, there all a lot like you churches.. there also into self-promotion. bassett You've gone downhill in the last few months, bassett, and there wasn't a lot of room to manoevre in the first place. Yes I know, it's the company I have been keeping, on these-er news groups. But not to worry Paul, even you left the U out of manoeuver, curse those typo's. bassett |
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America has a great new concert hall
"paul packer" wrote in message
... On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:49:15 +1000, "bassett wrote: "Iain Churches" wrote in message . .. "Robert Morein" wrote in message... "Jenn" wrote in message... Soundhaspriority wrote: "Harry Lavo" wrote: "dave weil" wrote in message... The Schermerhorn is finally open. It's a stunning hall and itr's reported to have incredible acoustics. It's very similar to both Boston Symphony Hall and the Concertgeboux in terms of volume, layout and seating capacity. The acousticians tried to combine the best of both halls, the volume and projection of the Concertgeobux combined with the clarity of the Boston. Everything has been factored in, from the seat padding to the design of refracting and reflecting surfaces. The hall itself is separated from the "outer box" by a three (or is it two?) inch acoustic gap and all of the mechanicals are isolated in the outer box. Here's the fact sheet: http://www.nashvillesymphony.org/res...pdf#search=%22 Compare to Verizon Hall in Philly. Verizon Hall is separated from the "outer box" via a 10 foot space. The outer box stands free within the Kimmel Center, which also houses the smaller Perelman Theater. Unfortunately, it appears to have serious problems. See http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15291303.htm for a description of the problems. snip further description for the sake of brevity Churches will no doubt be along anytime soon, to correct your mistakes, and give everyone his expert opinion, on all the above. Sorry Bassett. Can't oblige. I thought it an excellent and thought- inspiring thread. I have worked on recording projects at the Concertgebouw on several occasions. A wonderful concert hall with fine-sounding organ. Unfortunately, I have never been to Boston's Symphony Hall:-( Maybe one day:-) I notice, Bassett, that you had no observations to make on what Robert, Jen, Dave and Harry wrote above. So why did you bother to post at all? :-(( Predictable as always,, where would we all be without the know-all churches [he doesn't rate a capital letter to his monica ] giving his valuable opinion on everything. All correct and in it's place.. How bloody boring. Why would anyone want to talk about the sewer called Americia, Just don't remind me. been there, done that. and there woman can't give a good head job to save there lives. But on reflection, there all a lot like you churches.. there also into self-promotion. You've gone downhill in the last few months, bassett, and there wasn't a lot of room to manoevre in the first place. Yep, I'm afraid bassett's gone to the dogs. And I disagree most vehemently about American women (aaaaaaaaaaah....... what a night). ruff |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 04:45:16 -0400, "Soundhaspriority"
wrote: You've gone downhill in the last few months, bassett, and there wasn't a lot of room to manoevre in the first place. By which it might be implied that he is currently in an underground pipe approximately three feet in diameter. Or should be. |
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roughplanet wrote:
Yep, I'm afraid bassett's gone to the dogs. And I disagree most vehemently about American women (aaaaaaaaaaah....... what a night). But the youngn's (under 50 in my frame of reference) walk and move like men. The emulation doesn't stop there either. When I go to Paris I am deeply moved by what they think comprises the feminine. :-) Bob -- "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." A. Einstein |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:51:20 -0700, Bob Cain
wrote: When I go to Paris I am deeply moved by what they think comprises the feminine. :-) Deeply moved or deeply disturbed? |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:42:18 +1000, "bassett"
wrote: You've gone downhill in the last few months, bassett, and there wasn't a lot of room to manoevre in the first place. Yes I know, it's the company I have been keeping, on these-er news groups. But not to worry Paul, even you left the U out of manoeuver, curse those typo's. bassett Unfortunately it wasn't your spelling I was referring to. |
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"roughplanet" wrote in message Yep, I'm afraid bassett's gone to the dogs. And I disagree most vehemently about American women (aaaaaaaaaaah....... what a night). ruff One night,, My point exactly.. I have a system which up to now has worked quite well, If I get a pat on the head, and a kind smile, I follow them home. If on the other hand, they laugh at my long ears, and complain about my short legs, I retreat back into my kennel and stay there till they've gone. bassett |
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America has a great new concert hall
"paul packer" wrote in message ... On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:51:20 -0700, Bob Cain wrote: When I go to Paris I am deeply moved by what they think comprises the feminine. :-) Deeply moved or deeply disturbed? Quite right Paul,, Those bloody frogs are everywhere. bassett |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:51:26 +1000, "bassett"
wrote: I have a system which up to now has worked quite well, Did you get an extended warranty on it? |
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America has a great new concert hall
"paul packer" wrote in message ... On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:42:18 +1000, "bassett" wrote: You've gone downhill in the last few months, bassett, and there wasn't a lot of room to manoevre in the first place. Yes I know, it's the company I have been keeping, on these-er news groups. But not to worry Paul, even you left the U out of manoeuver, curse those typo's. bassett Unfortunately it wasn't your spelling I was referring to. I never fail to marvel at Bassett's uncanny ability to mis-interpret almost everything he reads. |
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America has a great new concert hall
Iain Churches wrote:
"paul packer" wrote in message ... On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:42:18 +1000, "bassett" wrote: You've gone downhill in the last few months, bassett, and there wasn't a lot of room to manoevre in the first place. Yes I know, it's the company I have been keeping, on these-er news groups. But not to worry Paul, even you left the U out of manoeuver, curse those typo's. bassett Unfortunately it wasn't your spelling I was referring to. I never fail to marvel at Bassett's uncanny ability to mis-interpret almost everything he reads. It would appear all that nose rubbing as a naughty piddling pup has effected his cognitive abilities ( thick as a brick wot ) |
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