From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 11/30/2004 2:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Simple views for simple minds.

That explains your mindset quite nicely, Scott. Thanks for sharing,


Thanks for showing us you are simple minded Arny, if that's your real name.
LOt's. End of discussion I win you lose Sockpuppet Clyde or whatever AckinSIN
is calling you when he pulls your sock strings.

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 11/30/2004 2:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Simple views for simple minds.

That explains your mindset quite nicely, Scott. Thanks for sharing,


Thanks for showing us you are simple minded Arny, if that's your real
name. LOt's. End of discussion I win you lose Sockpuppet Clyde or
whatever AckinSIN is calling you when he pulls your sock strings.

Are there mind-altering solvents in that cosmetic makeup that you use in
such great volumes, Scott? What's your excuse for posting like this?

Arny Krueger wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Thanks for showing us you are simple minded Arny, if that's your real
name. LOt's. End of discussion I win you lose Sockpuppet Clyde or
whatever AckinSIN is calling you when he pulls your sock strings.

Are there mind-altering solvents in that cosmetic makeup that you use in
such great volumes, Scott? What's your excuse for posting like this?

Adolescent frustration. Plus, the kid probably needs a
girlfriend.

Howard Ferstler

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message



Afraid to see a psychologist or psychiatrist for an objective
evaluation of your behavior?

Just goes to show how alien Richman is from the understanding of words like
*subjective* and *objective*.

The wild thing about the guy is that he is involved in a
professional discipline that at least makes some attempt at
scientific objectivity. (I say "makes some attempt," because
a number of psych majors I encountered in college were
pretty detached from a hard scientific approach to much of
anything.) Yet when it comes to audio he is basically an
apologizing, subjective goofball. On top of that, he behaves
like a fifteen year old.

Well, maybe we should forgive old Richman. Look at Anthony
Cordesman. Brass-tacks oriented as hell when it comes to
foreign policy analysis, and yet a goofy-products (and
expensive products, needless to say) worshipping
subjectivist when it comes to audio. Guys who deal with
brass tacks all day need some kind of relief when they get
home, and one un-convoluted (and non obligatory) way for
them to get that relief is to play with their mysterious
toys.

No figuring the audiophile mind. This is why I find it
unproductive for Tom Nousaine and you and a few others to
continuously attempt to sway the freakos with various DBT
approaches and rational explanations. The tail wags the
animal with those people, because no matter how well a DBT
is done (assuming they cannot hear differences) they will
rationalize the results and write off the test as flawed.
They will do this, because it fails to validate their
preconceptions.

Those guys (Richman, Wheeler, "Slick," Weil, "Middius,"
"JBorg," Phillips, Dormer, deWaal, "Margaret," etc.) have a
religious approach to audio, and all the scientific proofs
in the world will not change their minds. They are in the
hobby for its supposed mysterious nature and not because of
a love of music or any kind of interest in solid technology
or science. (Here, I am assuming that they are all
straightforward hobbyists and not tweako journalists
defending their turf by proxy sockpuppet tricks.)

Howard Ferstler

Howard Ferstler said:

No figuring the audiophile mind. This is why I find it
unproductive for Tom Nousaine and you and a few others to
continuously attempt to sway the freakos with various DBT
approaches and rational explanations. The tail wags the
animal with those people, because no matter how well a DBT
is done (assuming they cannot hear differences) they will
rationalize the results and write off the test as flawed.
They will do this, because it fails to validate their
preconceptions.

It looks to me that www.pcabx.com is the pinnacle of preconceptual
science.

Those guys (Richman, Wheeler, "Slick," Weil, "Middius,"
"JBorg," Phillips, Dormer, deWaal, "Margaret," etc.) have a
religious approach to audio, and all the scientific proofs
in the world will not change their minds. They are in the
hobby for its supposed mysterious nature and not because of
a love of music or any kind of interest in solid technology
or science. (Here, I am assuming that they are all
straightforward hobbyists and not tweako journalists
defending their turf by proxy sockpuppet tricks.)

You meant to say you are confused that Arnold believes in a God with
no questions asked, while at the same time he tries to pinpoint
himself as the paragon of science when the subject is audio?

It's OK, I have the same feeling.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

Howard Ferstler decides to embellish his delusional statement history:

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message



Afraid to see a psychologist or psychiatrist for an objective
evaluation of your behavior?

Just goes to show how alien Richman is from the understanding of words like
*subjective* and *objective*.

The wild thing about the guy is that he is involved in a
professional discipline that at least makes some attempt at
scientific objectivity. (I say "makes some attempt," because
a number of psych majors I encountered in college were
pretty detached from a hard scientific approach to much of
anything.)

Given Ferstler's limited and relatively unsuccessful academic experiences, it's
not surprising that he would generalize about a field (psychology), he
oibviously knows nothing about. Moreover, since he probably never dealt with
psychologists - and psych. majors at the undergraduate level are not
psychologists - his ignorance about experimental design - as demonsttated in
his phony, fraudulent dbt designs - disqualifies him from saying anything about
scientific methodology.



Yet when it comes to audio he is basically an
apologizing, subjective goofball. On top of that, he behaves
like a fifteen year old.


Ferstler's long history of ranting and raving about subjective audiophiles
strongly indicate that his obsessive hatred of all those that engage in
subjective opions and individual preferences - have pushed him well over the
edge. His juvenile name-calling, mind-reading speculations, and lengthy
history of self-serviing braggadocio are strongly indicative of a quite
seriously disturbed individual.





Well, maybe we should forgive old Richman. Look at Anthony
Cordesman. Brass-tacks oriented as hell when it comes to
foreign policy analysis, and yet a goofy-products (and
expensive products, needless to say) worshipping
subjectivist when it comes to audio. Guys who deal with
brass tacks all day need some kind of relief when they get
home, and one un-convoluted (and non obligatory) way for
them to get that relief is to play with their mysterious
toys.


Ferstler's quickly advancing senility are always apparent. From being
sequestered in library stacks to being sequestered in his self-imposed prison,
surrounded by redundant, Japanese audio hardware and useless test equipment
(since he can't conduct tests in an honest method not tied to his agenda of
predetermined results), his uselessness has made him quite bitter and as usual,
prone to muttering absurdities about others.




No figuring the audiophile mind. This is why I find it
unproductive for Tom Nousaine and you and a few others to
continuously attempt to sway the freakos with various DBT
approaches and rational explanations. The tail wags the
animal with those people, because no matter how well a DBT
is done (assuming they cannot hear differences) they will
rationalize the results and write off the test as flawed.
They will do this, because it fails to validate their
preconceptions.

Those guys (Richman, Wheeler, "Slick," Weil, "Middius,"
"JBorg," Phillips, Dormer, deWaal, "Margaret," etc.) have a
religious approach to audio, and all the scientific proofs
in the world will not change their minds. They are in the
hobby for its supposed mysterious nature and not because of
a love of music or any kind of interest in solid technology
or science. (Here, I am assuming that they are all
straightforward hobbyists and not tweako journalists
defending their turf by proxy sockpuppet tricks.)

Howard Ferstler




Lack of contact with reality once again confirmed and validated by Ferstler. A
fixed delusional belief system such as the one so rigidly dusplayed by this
senile old fool is both pathetic and quite revealing of the twisted motivations
of its victim.


Bruce J. Richman

"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Thanks for showing us you are simple minded Arny, if that's your
real name. LOt's. End of discussion I win you lose Sockpuppet Clyde
or whatever AckinSIN is calling you when he pulls your sock strings.

Are there mind-altering solvents in that cosmetic makeup that you
use in such great volumes, Scott? What's your excuse for posting
like this?

Adolescent frustration. Plus, the kid probably needs a
girlfriend.

Well maybe not exactly. Let's just say that he needs a friend and leave it
at that.

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:25:10 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Thanks for showing us you are simple minded Arny, if that's your
real name. LOt's. End of discussion I win you lose Sockpuppet Clyde
or whatever AckinSIN is calling you when he pulls your sock strings.

Are there mind-altering solvents in that cosmetic makeup that you
use in such great volumes, Scott? What's your excuse for posting
like this?

Adolescent frustration. Plus, the kid probably needs a
girlfriend.

Well maybe not exactly. Let's just say that he needs a friend and leave it
at that.

Arnold, only a nerd like you would use an audio group as a way to
generate potential dates.

Dave Weil wrote:


On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:25:10 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Thanks for showing us you are simple minded Arny, if that's your
real name. LOt's. End of discussion I win you lose Sockpuppet Clyde
or whatever AckinSIN is calling you when he pulls your sock strings.

Are there mind-altering solvents in that cosmetic makeup that you
use in such great volumes, Scott? What's your excuse for posting
like this?

Adolescent frustration. Plus, the kid probably needs a
girlfriend.

Well maybe not exactly. Let's just say that he needs a friend and leave it
at that.

Arnold, only a nerd like you would use an audio group as a way to
generate potential dates.



Are you suggesting that he, McKelvy and Ferstler are engaging in an online
menage a trois? (g)

Or would that be a menagerie a trois? (g)



Bruce J. Richman

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:25:10 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Thanks for showing us you are simple minded Arny, if that's your
real name. LOt's. End of discussion I win you lose Sockpuppet
Clyde or whatever AckinSIN is calling you when he pulls your sock
strings.

Are there mind-altering solvents in that cosmetic makeup that you
use in such great volumes, Scott? What's your excuse for posting
like this?

Adolescent frustration. Plus, the kid probably needs a
girlfriend.

Well maybe not exactly. Let's just say that he needs a friend and
leave it at that.

Arnold, only a nerd like you would use an audio group as a way to
generate potential dates.

Inability to understand the concept of happily monogamous noted.

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:47:51 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:25:10 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Thanks for showing us you are simple minded Arny, if that's your
real name. LOt's. End of discussion I win you lose Sockpuppet
Clyde or whatever AckinSIN is calling you when he pulls your sock
strings.

Are there mind-altering solvents in that cosmetic makeup that you
use in such great volumes, Scott? What's your excuse for posting
like this?

Adolescent frustration. Plus, the kid probably needs a
girlfriend.

Well maybe not exactly. Let's just say that he needs a friend and
leave it at that.

Arnold, only a nerd like you would use an audio group as a way to
generate potential dates.

Inability to understand the concept of happily monogamous noted.

Oh, *I* understand the concept. Perhaps you should brush up on the
concept yourself.

Arny said:

Inability to understand the concept of happily monogamous noted.

I don't think it can be called monogamy, because your computer doesn't love you
back.

Boon

"Paul Dormer" wrote in message

"Howard Ferstler" emitted :

Those guys (Richman, Wheeler, "Slick," Weil, "Middius,"
"JBorg," Phillips, Dormer, deWaal, "Margaret," etc.) have a
religious approach to audio,

That's totally dishonest.

If irony killed!

You haven't the vaguest idea of what my
'approach to audio' is.

It's true that you've written preciouis little about audio during your many
years posting here, Dormer. However, despite all your childish name-calling
and outright lies, some things can be gleaned about your approach to audio.

Even if you did.. I don't believe for a minute
that you would be honest about it. It wouldn't serve your cause.

If irony killed!

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/1/2004 8:19 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 11/30/2004 2:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Simple views for simple minds.

That explains your mindset quite nicely, Scott. Thanks for sharing,


Thanks for showing us you are simple minded Arny, if that's your real
name. LOt's. End of discussion I win you lose Sockpuppet Clyde or
whatever AckinSIN is calling you when he pulls your sock strings.

Are there mind-altering solvents in that cosmetic makeup that you use in
such great volumes, Scott?

There are no such solvants in any of my "cosmetic makeup."


What's your excuse for posting like this?



I was making fun of you. DUH.

From: Howard Ferstler
Date: 12/1/2004 9:48 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Arny Krueger wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Thanks for showing us you are simple minded Arny, if that's your real
name. LOt's. End of discussion I win you lose Sockpuppet Clyde or
whatever AckinSIN is calling you when he pulls your sock strings.

Are there mind-altering solvents in that cosmetic makeup that you use in
such great volumes, Scott? What's your excuse for posting like this?

Adolescent frustration. Plus, the kid probably needs a
girlfriend.


I was making fun of you too, dork. Right over your head. Get a life, slick.
Drill any exciting holes lately?

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/1/2004 8:19 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 11/30/2004 2:57 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Simple views for simple minds.

That explains your mindset quite nicely, Scott. Thanks for sharing,


Thanks for showing us you are simple minded Arny, if that's your
real name. LOt's. End of discussion I win you lose Sockpuppet Clyde
or whatever AckinSIN is calling you when he pulls your sock strings.

Are there mind-altering solvents in that cosmetic makeup that you
use in such great volumes, Scott?

There are no such solvants in any of my "cosmetic makeup."

I'm quite sure there are no solvants in any of the products you work with,
Scott.

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/1/2004 2:47 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"dave weil" wrote in message

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:25:10 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Howard Ferstler" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Thanks for showing us you are simple minded Arny, if that's your
real name. LOt's. End of discussion I win you lose Sockpuppet
Clyde or whatever AckinSIN is calling you when he pulls your sock
strings.

Are there mind-altering solvents in that cosmetic makeup that you
use in such great volumes, Scott? What's your excuse for posting
like this?

Adolescent frustration. Plus, the kid probably needs a
girlfriend.

Well maybe not exactly. Let's just say that he needs a friend and
leave it at that.

Arnold, only a nerd like you would use an audio group as a way to
generate potential dates.

Inability to understand the concept of happily monogamous noted.

Inability to properly use the English language noted.

Paul Dormer wrote:


Bruce J. Richman" emitted :

Those guys (Richman, Wheeler, "Slick," Weil, "Middius,"
"JBorg," Phillips, Dormer, deWaal, "Margaret," etc.) have a
religious approach to audio,

That's totally dishonest. You haven't the vaguest idea of what my
'approach to audio' is. Even if you did.. I don't believe for a minute
that you would be honest about it. It wouldn't serve your cause.

Actually, Ferstler's worship of misrepresentation, character assassination,
and
lying about others and their views and/or knowledge of audio has an exremely
religious tinge to it. It reminfs me of Joan of Arc's crusade in which she
did
"what the voices told her to do". I would not be at all surprised if
Ferstler's periodic appearanes on RAO are motivated by similar personal
demons.

That sounds entirely plausible. Note, Ferstler has already admitted to
being "under the spell" of numerous irrational and/or faith
based/related beliefs, including gross falsehoods regarding the
statistical odds of fatal accidents occurring during the course of air
travel, a disturbing disposition toward hating children, and treating
common workman's tools and dehumidifiers as deities.



LOT's !!! Just more "sciiiiiiiiiiiience" from a make believe objectivist.





S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t
-----------------------------------
It's Grim up north..



Bruce J. Richman

"S888Wheel" wrote in message
...

I was making fun of you too, dork. Right over your head. Get a life,
slick.
Drill any exciting holes lately?

Mrs. Ferstler.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...


I'm quite sure there are no solvants in any of the products you work with,
Scott.

Have you found the yoru yet?

"Paul Dormer" wrote in message
...
Note, Ferstler has already admitted to
being "under the spell" of numerous irrational and/or faith
based/related beliefs, including gross falsehoods regarding the
statistical odds of fatal accidents occurring during the course of air
travel, a disturbing disposition toward hating children, and treating
common workman's tools and dehumidifiers as deities.


Really, thay are only appliances, like toasters.

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Drill any exciting holes lately?

Inability to appreciate the joys of craftsmanship noted.

Paul Dormer wrote:


"Howard Ferstler" emitted :

PS: nobody with real technical knowledge believes about
audio gear as you do, unless you are just pimping for an
audio magazine.

You honestly have no idea what I believe about audio gear. You don't
even
know
who you're talking to half of the time.

Given that this is a nest of freako sockpuppets, I can
certainly agree. You guys all read the same to me.

Then that defines you as an idiot. That's why we gladly line up to point
it
out to you.

Boon

Actually, most of you probably really are the same. One or
two freakos pulling handfuls of sockpuppet strings and
reveling in their wit.

We are Gindi.


S i g n a l @ l i n e o n e . n e t
-----------------------------------
It's Grim up north..



Borganoia is a scary thing to behold. Incurable, it seems !



Bruce J. Richman

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message


Hand, wife, whatever's available. It's great!

Oddly enough, here we have Marc Phillips bragging that he can't tell the
difference between coitus and masturbation.

Pretty strange, I'd say!

Arny said:


"Marc Phillips" wrote in message


Hand, wife, whatever's available. It's great!

Oddly enough, here we have Marc Phillips bragging that he can't tell the
difference between coitus and masturbation.

Pretty strange, I'd say!

Actually, the point was the same end would be achieved either way. In Harold's
case, the same end would be achieved, too...total humilation, failure, and
frustration.

Of course, in your case, kiddie porn would have to be involved.

Boon

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/2/2004 5:46 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Drill any exciting holes lately?

Inability to appreciate the joys of craftsmanship noted.

Your stupidity noted.

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/2/2004 5:46 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Drill any exciting holes lately?

Inability to appreciate the joys of craftsmanship noted.

Your stupidity noted.

Inability to appreciate other people's joy in life noted.

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:


"Marc Phillips" wrote in message


Hand, wife, whatever's available. It's great!

Oddly enough, here we have Marc Phillips bragging that he can't tell
the difference between coitus and masturbation.

Pretty strange, I'd say!

Actually, the point was the same end would be achieved either way.

And that changes what I said, how?

In Harold's case, the same end would be achieved, too...total
humilation, failure, and frustration.

I don't think that anybody has ever experienced humilation.

Ignorance of the breadth of sexual pleasure, noted.

Of course, in your case, kiddie porn would have to be involved.

I find kiddie porn to be totally repulsive, even the mention of it like
this. However, it seems to get you where you want to go, Phillips.

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/3/2004 6:52 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/2/2004 5:46 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Drill any exciting holes lately?

Inability to appreciate the joys of craftsmanship noted.

Your stupidity noted.

Inability to appreciate other people's joy in life noted.


Your hypocricy noted.

I assure you I am free of hypocrisy.

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/3/2004 6:52 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/2/2004 5:46 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Drill any exciting holes lately?

Inability to appreciate the joys of craftsmanship noted.

Your stupidity noted.

Inability to appreciate other people's joy in life noted.


Your hypocricy noted.

Correction:

I assure you that I am free of hypocricy.

On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:55:33 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

I find kiddie porn to be totally repulsive, even the mention of it like
this. However, it seems to get you where you want to go, Phillips.

So, why are you being totally repulsive here, Arnold? Is it part of a
wider strategy?

"dave weil" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 09:55:33 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

I find kiddie porn to be totally repulsive, even the mention of it
like this. However, it seems to get you where you want to go,
Phillips.

So, why are you being totally repulsive here, Arnold? Is it part of a
wider strategy?

OK Weil, since you find me responding to your posts so repulsive, I'll stop
again for a while.

Troll on!

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:


"Marc Phillips" wrote in message


Hand, wife, whatever's available. It's great!

Oddly enough, here we have Marc Phillips bragging that he can't tell
the difference between coitus and masturbation.

Pretty strange, I'd say!

Actually, the point was the same end would be achieved either way.

And that changes what I said, how?

Well, the means are different. That changes what you said.


In Harold's case, the same end would be achieved, too...total
humilation, failure, and frustration.

I don't think that anybody has ever experienced humilation.

What the **** are you talking about?


Ignorance of the breadth of sexual pleasure, noted.

What the **** are you talking about?


Of course, in your case, kiddie porn would have to be involved.

I find kiddie porn to be totally repulsive, even the mention of it like
this. However, it seems to get you where you want to go, Phillips.

Driving you off this NG and back into prison...that's where I want to go.

Boon

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:


"Marc Phillips" wrote in message


Hand, wife, whatever's available. It's great!

Oddly enough, here we have Marc Phillips bragging that he can't
tell the difference between coitus and masturbation.

Pretty strange, I'd say!

Actually, the point was the same end would be achieved either way.

And that changes what I said, how?

Well, the means are different. That changes what you said.


In Harold's case, the same end would be achieved, too...total
humilation, failure, and frustration.

I don't think that anybody has ever experienced humilation.

What the **** are you talking about?


Ignorance of the breadth of sexual pleasure, noted.

What the **** are you talking about?


Of course, in your case, kiddie porn would have to be involved.

I find kiddie porn to be totally repulsive, even the mention of it
like this. However, it seems to get you where you want to go,
Phillips.

Driving you off this NG and back into prison...that's where I want to
go.

Sending me back to prison is mission impossible, since I was never there the
first time.

Your love for making libelous, pedophile and violent homosexual cliams in
public says a lot about you, Phillips. None of it is good!

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:


"Marc Phillips" wrote in message


Hand, wife, whatever's available. It's great!

Oddly enough, here we have Marc Phillips bragging that he can't
tell the difference between coitus and masturbation.

Pretty strange, I'd say!

Actually, the point was the same end would be achieved either way.

And that changes what I said, how?

Well, the means are different. That changes what you said.

Failure to defend yourself noted.



In Harold's case, the same end would be achieved, too...total
humilation, failure, and frustration.

I don't think that anybody has ever experienced humilation.

What the **** are you talking about?

Failure to defend yourself noted.



Ignorance of the breadth of sexual pleasure, noted.

What the **** are you talking about?



Failure to defend yourself noted.

Of course, in your case, kiddie porn would have to be involved.

I find kiddie porn to be totally repulsive, even the mention of it
like this. However, it seems to get you where you want to go,
Phillips.

Driving you off this NG and back into prison...that's where I want to
go.

Sending me back to prison is mission impossible, since I was never there the
first time.

Okay, "jail" then, if you want to play semantics.


Your love for making libelous, pedophile and violent homosexual cliams in
public says a lot about you, Phillips. None of it is good!

If it was libelous, you would have done something about it by now. And I
dislike doing it, but I dislike your presence here even more. And I'd like to
see you show one instance of me making a violent homosexual cliam, or claim, or
whatever.

Boon

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:


"Marc Phillips" wrote in message


Hand, wife, whatever's available. It's great!

Oddly enough, here we have Marc Phillips bragging that he can't
tell the difference between coitus and masturbation.

Pretty strange, I'd say!

Actually, the point was the same end would be achieved either way.

And that changes what I said, how?

Well, the means are different. That changes what you said.

Failure to defend yourself noted.



In Harold's case, the same end would be achieved, too...total
humilation, failure, and frustration.

I don't think that anybody has ever experienced humilation.

What the **** are you talking about?

Failure to defend yourself noted.



Ignorance of the breadth of sexual pleasure, noted.

What the **** are you talking about?



Failure to defend yourself noted.

Of course, in your case, kiddie porn would have to be involved.

I find kiddie porn to be totally repulsive, even the mention of it
like this. However, it seems to get you where you want to go,
Phillips.

Driving you off this NG and back into prison...that's where I want
to go.

Sending me back to prison is mission impossible, since I was never
there the first time.

Okay, "jail" then, if you want to play semantics.


Your love for making libelous, pedophile and violent homosexual
cliams in public says a lot about you, Phillips. None of it is good!

If it was libelous, you would have done something about it by now.

I did something about it. I laughed my head off.

And I dislike doing it, but I dislike your presence here even more.

Enjoy!

And I'd like to see you show one instance of me making a violent
homosexual cliam, or claim, or whatever.

Yup, you've been a perfect gentleman the whole time you've been posting
here, Phillips.

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Hand, wife, whatever's available. It's great!

Oddly enough, here we have Marc Phillips bragging that he can't
tell the difference between coitus and masturbation.

Pretty strange, I'd say!

Actually, the point was the same end would be achieved either way.

And that changes what I said, how?

Well, the means are different. That changes what you said.

Failure to defend yourself noted.



In Harold's case, the same end would be achieved, too...total
humilation, failure, and frustration.

I don't think that anybody has ever experienced humilation.

What the **** are you talking about?

Failure to defend yourself noted.



Ignorance of the breadth of sexual pleasure, noted.

What the **** are you talking about?



Failure to defend yourself noted.

Of course, in your case, kiddie porn would have to be involved.

I find kiddie porn to be totally repulsive, even the mention of it
like this. However, it seems to get you where you want to go,
Phillips.

Driving you off this NG and back into prison...that's where I want
to go.

Sending me back to prison is mission impossible, since I was never
there the first time.

Okay, "jail" then, if you want to play semantics.


Your love for making libelous, pedophile and violent homosexual
cliams in public says a lot about you, Phillips. None of it is good!

If it was libelous, you would have done something about it by now.

I did something about it. I laughed my head off.

That's not the usual response to libel. Perhaps it was something else, and you
don't possess the intellect and the honesty to effectively describe it.


And I dislike doing it, but I dislike your presence here even more.

Enjoy!

Well, submerging yourself in uncomfortable situations is certainly something
that defines you as a person.


And I'd like to see you show one instance of me making a violent
homosexual cliam, or claim, or whatever.

Yup, you've been a perfect gentleman the whole time you've been posting
here, Phillips.

The issue is not whether I've been a perfect gentleman, but whether or not I've
made "violent homosexual cliams," you big fat ****ing liar.

Boon

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Arny said:



"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:

"Marc Phillips" wrote in message

Arny said:


"Marc Phillips" wrote in message


Hand, wife, whatever's available. It's great!

Oddly enough, here we have Marc Phillips bragging that he can't
tell the difference between coitus and masturbation.

Pretty strange, I'd say!

Actually, the point was the same end would be achieved either
way.

And that changes what I said, how?

Well, the means are different. That changes what you said.

Failure to defend yourself noted.



In Harold's case, the same end would be achieved, too...total
humilation, failure, and frustration.

I don't think that anybody has ever experienced humilation.

What the **** are you talking about?

Failure to defend yourself noted.



Ignorance of the breadth of sexual pleasure, noted.

What the **** are you talking about?



Failure to defend yourself noted.

Of course, in your case, kiddie porn would have to be involved.

I find kiddie porn to be totally repulsive, even the mention of
it like this. However, it seems to get you where you want to go,
Phillips.

Driving you off this NG and back into prison...that's where I want
to go.

Sending me back to prison is mission impossible, since I was never
there the first time.

Okay, "jail" then, if you want to play semantics.


Your love for making libelous, pedophile and violent homosexual
cliams in public says a lot about you, Phillips. None of it is
good!

If it was libelous, you would have done something about it by now.

I did something about it. I laughed my head off.

That's not the usual response to libel.

Delusions of omniscience noted.

In fact people are libelled all the time - probably thousands of times or
more for every libel suit that goes to court.

Perhaps it was something
else, and you don't possess the intellect and the honesty to
effectively describe it.

Certainly Phillips you are jesting if not simply acting like a fool.

And I dislike doing it, but I dislike your presence here even more.

Enjoy!

Well, submerging yourself in uncomfortable situations is certainly
something that defines you as a person.

Wrong again Phillips. I don't submerge myself in uncomfortable situations
like RAO, I am above them.

And I'd like to see you show one instance of me making a violent
homosexual cliam, or claim, or whatever.

Yup, you've been a perfect gentleman the whole time you've been
posting here, Phillips.

The issue is not whether I've been a perfect gentleman,

Sure it is, Phillips. In fact you've been an imperfect ass almost all the
time.


but whether
or not I've made "violent homosexual cliams," you big fat ****ing liar.

Given your inability to converse like an adult Phillips, the discussion is
over.

Troll as you will! ;-)

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/3/2004 7:50 AM Pacific Standard Time
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From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/3/2004 6:52 AM Pacific Standard Time
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From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/2/2004 5:46 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Drill any exciting holes lately?

Inability to appreciate the joys of craftsmanship noted.

Your stupidity noted.

Inability to appreciate other people's joy in life noted.


Your hypocricy noted.

I assure you I am free of hypocrisy.









You are lying.

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/3/2004 7:50 AM Pacific Standard Time
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From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/3/2004 6:52 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"S888Wheel" wrote in message

From: "Arny Krueger"
Date: 12/2/2004 5:46 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"S888Wheel" wrote in message


Drill any exciting holes lately?

Inability to appreciate the joys of craftsmanship noted.

Your stupidity noted.

Inability to appreciate other people's joy in life noted.


Your hypocricy noted.

Correction:

I assure you that I am free of hypocricy.


Thanks for acknowledging your hypocrisy. Your correction is noted.