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What is the best clipped peak restoration tool?
What is the best clipped peak restoration tool out there to date?
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What is the best clipped peak restoration tool?
What is the best clipped peak restoration tool out there to date?
Haredware? Software? F. |
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On Sep 22, 12:49 am, "Federico" wrote:
What is the best clipped peak restoration tool out there to date? Haredware? Software? F. Software. |
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"Industrial One" wrote in message ... On Sep 22, 12:49 am, "Federico" wrote: What is the best clipped peak restoration tool out there to date? Haredware? Software? F. Software. Well, well, well, Mr Industrial one, you have gone 2 posts now without mentioning penises penetrating male anus'. Clearly your meds are working. Well done. Gareth. |
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What is the best clipped peak restoration tool?
On Sep 22, 6:17 pm, "Gareth Magennis"
wrote: Well, well, well, Mr Industrial one, you have gone 2 posts now without mentioning p*n*ses penetrating male *n*s'. Clearly your meds are working. And here is Mr. Magennis conducting the tired, worn-out exercise called "kicking the skunk," the results of which are utterly predictable. Clearly Mr. Magennis' is off his meds.. |
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wrote in message ... On Sep 22, 6:17 pm, "Gareth Magennis" wrote: Well, well, well, Mr Industrial one, you have gone 2 posts now without mentioning p*n*ses penetrating male *n*s'. Clearly your meds are working. And here is Mr. Magennis conducting the tired, worn-out exercise called "kicking the skunk," the results of which are utterly predictable. Clearly Mr. Magennis' is off his meds.. I totally disagree. This poster very rarely contributes anything but a diatribe of juvenile homophobic nonesense. Yet he seems to be quite an intelligent guy. But seemingly not aware enough to realise how innappropriate and ridiculous his actions are. He is not a skunk, he is a someone presently stuck in a skunk like place, but most probably in a position to remove himself from this hole and go somewhere better. If I feedback to him, albeit in a mocking tone, that he rarely writes anything without some homophobic content, then maybe this will have some effect for the better. It certainly is not the best policy for gaining the information he is looking for in this newsgroup, and I believe his interest here is genuine. He just needs to grow up a lot and to realise his current methods do not and will never work. Gareth. |
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"Gareth Magennis" wrote ...
I totally disagree. [Industrial One] very rarely contributes anything but a diatribe of juvenile homophobic nonesense. Which is why many of us have just plonked him outright. Yet he seems to be quite an intelligent guy. Have I missed anything substantive? I didn't think so. |
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What is the best clipped peak restoration tool?
Ok, since DJ Pierce is one of the credible, smart posters around here
that has been useful before, I'll try to make my post more intelligent. I need a tool that will significantly reduce clipping if it can't completely remove it. I'm aware that a lost signal can't be accurately restored, but if we can estimate the amount of overdriven decibels from the width of the clip, perhaps an algorithm could extrapolate the lost signal from the existing samples before the beginning of the clipped samples? Something to turn http://i38.tinypic.com/5juvt1.png into http://i35.tinypic.com/2agowg5.png instead of http://i34.tinypic.com/33epyjk.png. |
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What is the best clipped peak restoration tool?
Clip restoration tool in CoolEdit is what I've been using.
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Clip restoration tool in CoolEdit is what I've been using. As have I. It's not the solution of anybody's dreams, but if you work with its parameters, it does about as good job of a reasonable-appearing cleanup as I've seen. The problem is that if you clip a wave a little, no cleanup at all is usually required. The ear is fooled or maybe hears a slight brightening or hardening. If you clip a wave a lot, so much evidence about what the wave should be has been lost, that any restoration has to be based on guesswork. Based on past experience, it appears that attempting to restore the waveform may not be the best approach. Rather, doing something like approximating what overdriven magnetic tape might be more effective. Basically, if you overdrive mag tape you get a fast-acting combination of soft clipping and bandwidth reduction. |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
: If you clip a wave a lot, so much evidence about what the wave should be : has been lost, that any restoration has to be based on guesswork. Yes, if you clip a lot, it is very likely the original wave is considerably more complex than just a parametric interpolation. Despite that, I have noticed that it can sometimes slightly improve the sound. |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
wrote in message Clip restoration tool in CoolEdit is what I've been using. As have I. It's not the solution of anybody's dreams, but if you work with its parameters, it does about as good job of a reasonable-appearing cleanup as I've seen. Sound Forge has a Clipped Peak Restoration tool. Seems to work in a fairly basic way. geoff |
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I've tried Sound Forge. The declipped waveform *looks* reconstructed
and close to the original, but still sounds distorted nonetheless. The ClipFix plugin for Audacity is somewhat better, the one for Nero Wave Editor is highly regarded by some but the application is unstable, the instructions suck horse cock and the declipper didn't do any better than Sound Forge and ADDED distortion. The CoolEdit tool looks promising. What parameters would you guys recommend? Should I amplify by -15 dB before I run the restoration tool or no? What is the best choice? I don't care if the operation will take forever to do, I need the restoration to be maximal. |
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Any lossy encoding of lightly clipped material (eg MP3) will improve things slightly, if
the clipping artifacts are judged less important than the rest. Of course that also introduces other problems, and can lead to much worse clipping on playback. But the latter can at least be countered with MP3Gain or any manual pre-DAC digital gain control (eg drop the gain in WinAmp's EQ), or by scaling back the clipped waveform (eg -6dB) before encoding (better). I would never suggest that MP3 encoding should be able to rival a dedicated clip removal tool, but it's better than one might expect (when the gain is reduced before encoding to avoid playback clipping), and Cool Edit's dedicated tool is worse than one might expect. Tony |
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What is the best clipped peak restoration tool?
"geoff" wrote in message ... Sound Forge has a Clipped Peak Restoration tool. Seems to work in a fairly basic way. Yep, that's been my assessment of it too, and rarely much, if any, improvement. I agree with what others have already said, slight clipping is not so much of a problem, in fact most modern CD's use it to a greater or lesser extent in the mastering process. (not that I think that is a good thing however) Major clipping can rarely be improved much beyond some high frequency filtering. Given the 100dB+ dynamic range of even some cheap sound cards these days, clipping is *easy* to avoid in the first place, so no tools should be necessary anyway. MrT. |
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