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On Jun 8, 1:09*am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
On Jun 7, 8:47*pm, wrote:



On Jun 7, 9:25*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
On Jun 7, 7:29*pm, wrote:

On Jun 7, 8:25*pm, George M. Middius wrote:

Sacky stupidized:

If Obama addresses "don't ask, don't tell" I'll bet you $5 that either
2pid or Clyde will trot out "unit cohesion" as a 'reason' to keep gays
from openly serving in the military.

I answered this months ago.
Its up to the military authorities to asses the situation.

This kind of moronic posturing is one reason for my earlier assertion:
"Unlike you, he doesn't make dogmatic assertions, he doesn't exhibit
mindless prejudices and irrational biases".

there is no dogma, mindless prejudice and irrational bias.

and you clipped the part of my response that further proved that.

LOL!

"but I want an optimized fighting force.
If the two goals are not in conflict, that's great."

You have some irrational bias that there's a possibility the two goals
*might* be in conflict.

It is a rational conclusion that it possibility might exist.

As one who has served with NATO forces that *do* allow gays to openly
serve I can say with certainty that your mindless prejudice and
irrational biases are just that.

that's your opinion.

Mine is based on experience. Let's see some rational explanation for
yours. LOL!

to you, another other view that does not squarely
fit your beliefs you define as a mindless prejudice
and an irrational buias.

No, what strikes me as "mindless prejudice" and "irrational biases"
are, in fact, "mindless prejudice" and "irrational biases". LOL!

Your persistence in doing so in itseld is
a mindless prejudice and an irrational bias on your part.

BZZZZZT! What I am doing is combatting "mindless prejudice" and
"irrational biases".

Your belief that the military allowing gays to openly serve might be
detrimental is based on... Hm. Nothing? LOL!

If you can explain how this is different from gays openly serving I'll
even agree with you:

On 26 July 1948, President Harry S Truman signed Executive Order 9981,
establishing the President’s Committee on Equality of Treatment and
Opportunity in the Armed Services. It was accompanied by Executive
Order 9980, which created a Fair Employment Board to eliminate racial
discrimination in federal employment.

Segregation in the military services did not officially end until the
Secretary of Defense announced on 30 September 1954 that the last all-
black unit had been abolished. However, the president’s directive put
the armed forces (albeit reluctantly) at the forefront of the growing
movement to win a fully participatory social role for the nation’s
African-American citizens.

http://www.redstone.army.mil/history...e/welcome.html

If the integration of the armed services now seems to have been
inevitable in a democratic society, it nevertheless faced opposition
that had to be overcome and problems that had to be solved through the
combined efforts of political and civil rights leaders and civil and
military officials.

http://www.history.army.mil/books/in...ion/IAF-fm.htm

Dart revealed that the Black Airmen felt as much pressure from
themselves as they did from the enemy. They had been regarded as “too
dumb” to be fighter pilots, despite previous achievements made by
Black Aviators.

http://www.dmna.state.ny.us/historic...itary/BlacksMi...

This is no different, Clyde. I'll bet if you had been around back then
you'd have said "I have no problem with the military integrating as
long as it doesn't detract from readiness".

LMAO!

And if I were around back then, I would be
taking pictures with my digital camera