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Sony CDX C-90 Question
I've never really noticed this before..not sure if it's always been this way
or something new. Lately I've noticed that the bass level tends to be more exaggerated at lower volume levels. But when I turn up the volume, past 3/4, the sound is more linear. I've experienced this with head units using a LOUDNESS feature, but this is not a feature of this particular unit. Anyone? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact |
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Sony CDX C-90 Question
That's the way the unit is designed to work. Mine did the same thing.
Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... I've never really noticed this before..not sure if it's always been this way or something new. Lately I've noticed that the bass level tends to be more exaggerated at lower volume levels. But when I turn up the volume, past 3/4, the sound is more linear. I've experienced this with head units using a LOUDNESS feature, but this is not a feature of this particular unit. Anyone? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact |
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Sony CDX C-90 Question
Wow...that's odd. Isn't low-level linearity a trademark of any high-end HU?
I believe I am correct when I say the C-90 is right up there with a few other select best-of-the-best HUs. Right? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:gpQ7b.312693$Oz4.102612@rwcrnsc54... That's the way the unit is designed to work. Mine did the same thing. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... I've never really noticed this before..not sure if it's always been this way or something new. Lately I've noticed that the bass level tends to be more exaggerated at lower volume levels. But when I turn up the volume, past 3/4, the sound is more linear. I've experienced this with head units using a LOUDNESS feature, but this is not a feature of this particular unit. Anyone? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact |
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Sony CDX C-90 Question
The bass turning itself down at high volumes is not an issue with low level
linearity, it a design function. It works exactly like a loudness function that turns down at high volume. It's to keep the system from clipping at that frequency. Only fairly high end deck will do this on the loudness and the C90 is the only one that I know of that does it on the bass and treble. Basically it's supposed to be like that and it's a good thing to have on there. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... Wow...that's odd. Isn't low-level linearity a trademark of any high-end HU? I believe I am correct when I say the C-90 is right up there with a few other select best-of-the-best HUs. Right? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:gpQ7b.312693$Oz4.102612@rwcrnsc54... That's the way the unit is designed to work. Mine did the same thing. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... I've never really noticed this before..not sure if it's always been this way or something new. Lately I've noticed that the bass level tends to be more exaggerated at lower volume levels. But when I turn up the volume, past 3/4, the sound is more linear. I've experienced this with head units using a LOUDNESS feature, but this is not a feature of this particular unit. Anyone? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact |
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Sony CDX C-90 Question
Well I have to say I'm pretty surprised at that. I can't stand having to
turn down the bass at lower volumes only to turn it back up again at higher volumes. I had always been under the assumption that any unit w/o a loudness function, or ones with one that was turned off, that the frequency response would remain more or less linear throughout the volume range. The better the HU the more flat the curve would be. I've had top models from Eclipse, Alpine & Nakamichi and none of them did this. I honestly didn't notice this on my Sony for quite some time...and I ALWAYS notice stuff like that. Just freakin' weird I tell you! Sorry...I'm venting, not arguing. Thanks, Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:cI38b.421179$uu5.75326@sccrnsc04... The bass turning itself down at high volumes is not an issue with low level linearity, it a design function. It works exactly like a loudness function that turns down at high volume. It's to keep the system from clipping at that frequency. Only fairly high end deck will do this on the loudness and the C90 is the only one that I know of that does it on the bass and treble. Basically it's supposed to be like that and it's a good thing to have on there. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... Wow...that's odd. Isn't low-level linearity a trademark of any high-end HU? I believe I am correct when I say the C-90 is right up there with a few other select best-of-the-best HUs. Right? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:gpQ7b.312693$Oz4.102612@rwcrnsc54... That's the way the unit is designed to work. Mine did the same thing. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... I've never really noticed this before..not sure if it's always been this way or something new. Lately I've noticed that the bass level tends to be more exaggerated at lower volume levels. But when I turn up the volume, past 3/4, the sound is more linear. I've experienced this with head units using a LOUDNESS feature, but this is not a feature of this particular unit. Anyone? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact |
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Sony CDX C-90 Question
I understand. The C90 does a TON of stuff a lot of other high end units
doesn't, i.e. bypassing the tone controls altogether and the ability to change the type of filter the D/A converter uses. I still wish I hadn't sold mine. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... Well I have to say I'm pretty surprised at that. I can't stand having to turn down the bass at lower volumes only to turn it back up again at higher volumes. I had always been under the assumption that any unit w/o a loudness function, or ones with one that was turned off, that the frequency response would remain more or less linear throughout the volume range. The better the HU the more flat the curve would be. I've had top models from Eclipse, Alpine & Nakamichi and none of them did this. I honestly didn't notice this on my Sony for quite some time...and I ALWAYS notice stuff like that. Just freakin' weird I tell you! Sorry...I'm venting, not arguing. Thanks, Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:cI38b.421179$uu5.75326@sccrnsc04... The bass turning itself down at high volumes is not an issue with low level linearity, it a design function. It works exactly like a loudness function that turns down at high volume. It's to keep the system from clipping at that frequency. Only fairly high end deck will do this on the loudness and the C90 is the only one that I know of that does it on the bass and treble. Basically it's supposed to be like that and it's a good thing to have on there. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... Wow...that's odd. Isn't low-level linearity a trademark of any high-end HU? I believe I am correct when I say the C-90 is right up there with a few other select best-of-the-best HUs. Right? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:gpQ7b.312693$Oz4.102612@rwcrnsc54... That's the way the unit is designed to work. Mine did the same thing. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... I've never really noticed this before..not sure if it's always been this way or something new. Lately I've noticed that the bass level tends to be more exaggerated at lower volume levels. But when I turn up the volume, past 3/4, the sound is more linear. I've experienced this with head units using a LOUDNESS feature, but this is not a feature of this particular unit. Anyone? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact |
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Sony CDX C-90 Question
I wish I never sold mine either. I liked almost everything about the unit
except for the damn display... I hope my new Denon DCT Z1 keeps me happy when I install it Bryan "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:Itr8b.426874$Ho3.68150@sccrnsc03... I understand. The C90 does a TON of stuff a lot of other high end units doesn't, i.e. bypassing the tone controls altogether and the ability to change the type of filter the D/A converter uses. I still wish I hadn't sold mine. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... Well I have to say I'm pretty surprised at that. I can't stand having to turn down the bass at lower volumes only to turn it back up again at higher volumes. I had always been under the assumption that any unit w/o a loudness function, or ones with one that was turned off, that the frequency response would remain more or less linear throughout the volume range. The better the HU the more flat the curve would be. I've had top models from Eclipse, Alpine & Nakamichi and none of them did this. I honestly didn't notice this on my Sony for quite some time...and I ALWAYS notice stuff like that. Just freakin' weird I tell you! Sorry...I'm venting, not arguing. Thanks, Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:cI38b.421179$uu5.75326@sccrnsc04... The bass turning itself down at high volumes is not an issue with low level linearity, it a design function. It works exactly like a loudness function that turns down at high volume. It's to keep the system from clipping at that frequency. Only fairly high end deck will do this on the loudness and the C90 is the only one that I know of that does it on the bass and treble. Basically it's supposed to be like that and it's a good thing to have on there. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... Wow...that's odd. Isn't low-level linearity a trademark of any high-end HU? I believe I am correct when I say the C-90 is right up there with a few other select best-of-the-best HUs. Right? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:gpQ7b.312693$Oz4.102612@rwcrnsc54... That's the way the unit is designed to work. Mine did the same thing. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... I've never really noticed this before..not sure if it's always been this way or something new. Lately I've noticed that the bass level tends to be more exaggerated at lower volume levels. But when I turn up the volume, past 3/4, the sound is more linear. I've experienced this with head units using a LOUDNESS feature, but this is not a feature of this particular unit. Anyone? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact |
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Sony CDX C-90 Question
Mine had the same problem. Sony says it was normal and after 2 years of
warranty returns they just started putting a note in the boxes saying it was normal. Paul Vina "Bryan" wrote in message news:Xns8b.211$CU3.169@pd7tw3no... I wish I never sold mine either. I liked almost everything about the unit except for the damn display... I hope my new Denon DCT Z1 keeps me happy when I install it Bryan "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:Itr8b.426874$Ho3.68150@sccrnsc03... I understand. The C90 does a TON of stuff a lot of other high end units doesn't, i.e. bypassing the tone controls altogether and the ability to change the type of filter the D/A converter uses. I still wish I hadn't sold mine. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... Well I have to say I'm pretty surprised at that. I can't stand having to turn down the bass at lower volumes only to turn it back up again at higher volumes. I had always been under the assumption that any unit w/o a loudness function, or ones with one that was turned off, that the frequency response would remain more or less linear throughout the volume range. The better the HU the more flat the curve would be. I've had top models from Eclipse, Alpine & Nakamichi and none of them did this. I honestly didn't notice this on my Sony for quite some time...and I ALWAYS notice stuff like that. Just freakin' weird I tell you! Sorry...I'm venting, not arguing. Thanks, Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:cI38b.421179$uu5.75326@sccrnsc04... The bass turning itself down at high volumes is not an issue with low level linearity, it a design function. It works exactly like a loudness function that turns down at high volume. It's to keep the system from clipping at that frequency. Only fairly high end deck will do this on the loudness and the C90 is the only one that I know of that does it on the bass and treble. Basically it's supposed to be like that and it's a good thing to have on there. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... Wow...that's odd. Isn't low-level linearity a trademark of any high-end HU? I believe I am correct when I say the C-90 is right up there with a few other select best-of-the-best HUs. Right? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:gpQ7b.312693$Oz4.102612@rwcrnsc54... That's the way the unit is designed to work. Mine did the same thing. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... I've never really noticed this before..not sure if it's always been this way or something new. Lately I've noticed that the bass level tends to be more exaggerated at lower volume levels. But when I turn up the volume, past 3/4, the sound is more linear. I've experienced this with head units using a LOUDNESS feature, but this is not a feature of this particular unit. Anyone? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact |
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Sony CDX C-90 Question
That's so funny guys, b/c this is the second C90 I've owned. The first one
I returned becuase I didn't like the display and I wasn't keen on having all those menus to go through just to change the contrast for example. Then I purchased a Nak CD-700 for a while. Best sounding HU I've ever owned. But it was TOO simple!! LOL Now I'm back with the C90. Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:zkv8b.428674$Ho3.69216@sccrnsc03... Mine had the same problem. Sony says it was normal and after 2 years of warranty returns they just started putting a note in the boxes saying it was normal. Paul Vina "Bryan" wrote in message news:Xns8b.211$CU3.169@pd7tw3no... I wish I never sold mine either. I liked almost everything about the unit except for the damn display... I hope my new Denon DCT Z1 keeps me happy when I install it Bryan "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:Itr8b.426874$Ho3.68150@sccrnsc03... I understand. The C90 does a TON of stuff a lot of other high end units doesn't, i.e. bypassing the tone controls altogether and the ability to change the type of filter the D/A converter uses. I still wish I hadn't sold mine. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... Well I have to say I'm pretty surprised at that. I can't stand having to turn down the bass at lower volumes only to turn it back up again at higher volumes. I had always been under the assumption that any unit w/o a loudness function, or ones with one that was turned off, that the frequency response would remain more or less linear throughout the volume range. The better the HU the more flat the curve would be. I've had top models from Eclipse, Alpine & Nakamichi and none of them did this. I honestly didn't notice this on my Sony for quite some time...and I ALWAYS notice stuff like that. Just freakin' weird I tell you! Sorry...I'm venting, not arguing. Thanks, Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:cI38b.421179$uu5.75326@sccrnsc04... The bass turning itself down at high volumes is not an issue with low level linearity, it a design function. It works exactly like a loudness function that turns down at high volume. It's to keep the system from clipping at that frequency. Only fairly high end deck will do this on the loudness and the C90 is the only one that I know of that does it on the bass and treble. Basically it's supposed to be like that and it's a good thing to have on there. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... Wow...that's odd. Isn't low-level linearity a trademark of any high-end HU? I believe I am correct when I say the C-90 is right up there with a few other select best-of-the-best HUs. Right? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:gpQ7b.312693$Oz4.102612@rwcrnsc54... That's the way the unit is designed to work. Mine did the same thing. Paul Vina "Tony Fernandes" wrote in message ... I've never really noticed this before..not sure if it's always been this way or something new. Lately I've noticed that the bass level tends to be more exaggerated at lower volume levels. But when I turn up the volume, past 3/4, the sound is more linear. I've experienced this with head units using a LOUDNESS feature, but this is not a feature of this particular unit. Anyone? Tony -- What's more likely? That an all-powerful mysterious god created the universe and then decided not to give any proof of his existence? Or, that he simply doesn't exist at all? And that we created him so that we wouldn't have to feel so small and alone. -Eleanor Arroway, Contact |
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