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WAY, WAY off the topic question regarding turntables.....
I know, this is totally the wrong forum, but as I know so many of you and
how helpful most all of you are, I thought, "What the heck?" before I post the same question on home audio and audiophile sites, give my old stomping grounds a try. So here goes.... I have an old Technics SL-B2 turntable that is in perfect shape and works perfectly as well. I have had it for many, many years. However, it has been relagated to a box that is kept in my attic or garage for the last 25 years. I still have my record collection going back to 1978 when I purchased my first LP, and I accumulated records at a pretty good clip (perhaps 2 a week) until, I would say, 1988, when EVERYTHING was switched to CD's. Even the EP's that were the last hold-out of recordings not found on CD, but only on vinyl, really disappeared by 1992. By '91-'93, except for an extremelly small niche market of audiophiles (who to THIS DAY will claim that LP's still sound better than CD's given very HIGH quality recordings, EXPERT mastering techniques, and EXCEPTIONAL equipment used in playback). Besides Audiophiles, DJ's continue to this day to use vinyl in clubs as mxing one song to the next is MUCH easier than with CD's (though advances in DJ oriented CD mixing gear with controls like BPM synchrnozation has leveled the playing field). However, besides those two groups, NOBODY BUYS vinyl anymore. Anyway, I have about 400-500 LP's I was flipping through the other day and felt nostalgic and wanted to hear some of this old stuff. However, my turntable is just missing a headshell and cartride (stylus too, of course). I gave it to someone (the headshell and cartride) about 10 years ago as I thought I would NEVER want to use the turntable again, I nearly threw it out (well, I was going to give it to the Salvation Army, same diff.)!!!!! I have already ordered the headshell and it should be here tommorrow or the next day. My question is about what would give me the best bang for my buck in terms of cartridges (with stylus, of course). I definately want to buy new as you NEVER know how many hours a used needle may have seen. I am NOT an audiophile NUT when it comes to my home gear (OK, a little bit) and my turntable is certainly not one you would consider "high-end". But it's built like a tank (surprisingly heavy) and after literally decades of collecting dust it fired right up, by using the strobe adjustment I dialed in the PERFECT 33 1/3 and it never wavered (wow and flutter) at all. I have no doubt it's as good (SQ wise) as any other Technics turntable (I know, I know, DJ's all prefer the 1200 series with direct drive, mine's belt driven, as the 1200's can go from 0-60 MPH in like .02 seconds or some damn thing like that). But again, sound quality wise, they all SOUND the same (given the same cartride) and it becomes more a factor of, again, your cartridege and stylus selection as Technics does not employ more esoteric turntable construction (like thick glass platters, drive-motors COMPLETELY seperated from the spinning table itself, only joined by the belt in an attempt to COMPLETELY erradicate any motor noise that might creep in, and EVEN MORE essoteric and complicated means of isolating ANY vibrations in the environment or the surface the turntable is placed upon. These esoteric turntables might empoly (to name only a few) double decker affairs where the first part of the table is simply a vibrations absorber; different materials employed in constructing some tables such as carbon fiber, fiberglass, REAL glass, and so on and so on......). Anyway, back to my original question. Do any of you out there have a favorite cartridge maker and if so why? I don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money, I just want my records to sound decent as I transpose them to MP3. I used to buy only Audio Technica cartridges as a kid as I thought they made a very good product at a reasonable price. Is that still the case? Are there others to consider? Like I said, I am DEINATELY looking for a NEW cartridge and stylus, but I am not going to spend $500 on a Grado flagship model. It MUST be under $100, preferably under $50. Like I said, I am not all that picky about my sound inside the house (I'm pickier in the car!). Anyway, any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Nick |
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WAY, WAY off the topic question regarding turntables.....
Hard to go wrong with the Shure M97xE, great little cartridge for what
it costs and a good match for mid to heavy tonearms. I've always liked Shure carts though; I use the V15 type V in its various forms on most of my TT's. JD MOSFET wrote: I know, this is totally the wrong forum, but as I know so many of you and how helpful most all of you are, I thought, "What the heck?" before I post the same question on home audio and audiophile sites, give my old stomping grounds a try. So here goes.... I have an old Technics SL-B2 turntable that is in perfect shape and works perfectly as well. I have had it for many, many years. However, it has been relagated to a box that is kept in my attic or garage for the last 25 years. I still have my record collection going back to 1978 when I purchased my first LP, and I accumulated records at a pretty good clip (perhaps 2 a week) until, I would say, 1988, when EVERYTHING was switched to CD's. Even the EP's that were the last hold-out of recordings not found on CD, but only on vinyl, really disappeared by 1992. By '91-'93, except for an extremelly small niche market of audiophiles (who to THIS DAY will claim that LP's still sound better than CD's given very HIGH quality recordings, EXPERT mastering techniques, and EXCEPTIONAL equipment used in playback). Besides Audiophiles, DJ's continue to this day to use vinyl in clubs as mxing one song to the next is MUCH easier than with CD's (though advances in DJ oriented CD mixing gear with controls like BPM synchrnozation has leveled the playing field). However, besides those two groups, NOBODY BUYS vinyl anymore. Anyway, I have about 400-500 LP's I was flipping through the other day and felt nostalgic and wanted to hear some of this old stuff. However, my turntable is just missing a headshell and cartride (stylus too, of course). I gave it to someone (the headshell and cartride) about 10 years ago as I thought I would NEVER want to use the turntable again, I nearly threw it out (well, I was going to give it to the Salvation Army, same diff.)!!!!! I have already ordered the headshell and it should be here tommorrow or the next day. My question is about what would give me the best bang for my buck in terms of cartridges (with stylus, of course). I definately want to buy new as you NEVER know how many hours a used needle may have seen. I am NOT an audiophile NUT when it comes to my home gear (OK, a little bit) and my turntable is certainly not one you would consider "high-end". But it's built like a tank (surprisingly heavy) and after literally decades of collecting dust it fired right up, by using the strobe adjustment I dialed in the PERFECT 33 1/3 and it never wavered (wow and flutter) at all. I have no doubt it's as good (SQ wise) as any other Technics turntable (I know, I know, DJ's all prefer the 1200 series with direct drive, mine's belt driven, as the 1200's can go from 0-60 MPH in like .02 seconds or some damn thing like that). But again, sound quality wise, they all SOUND the same (given the same cartride) and it becomes more a factor of, again, your cartridege and stylus selection as Technics does not employ more esoteric turntable construction (like thick glass platters, drive-motors COMPLETELY seperated from the spinning table itself, only joined by the belt in an attempt to COMPLETELY erradicate any motor noise that might creep in, and EVEN MORE essoteric and complicated means of isolating ANY vibrations in the environment or the surface the turntable is placed upon. These esoteric turntables might empoly (to name only a few) double decker affairs where the first part of the table is simply a vibrations absorber; different materials employed in constructing some tables such as carbon fiber, fiberglass, REAL glass, and so on and so on......). Anyway, back to my original question. Do any of you out there have a favorite cartridge maker and if so why? I don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money, I just want my records to sound decent as I transpose them to MP3. I used to buy only Audio Technica cartridges as a kid as I thought they made a very good product at a reasonable price. Is that still the case? Are there others to consider? Like I said, I am DEINATELY looking for a NEW cartridge and stylus, but I am not going to spend $500 on a Grado flagship model. It MUST be under $100, preferably under $50. Like I said, I am not all that picky about my sound inside the house (I'm pickier in the car!). Anyway, any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Nick |
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WAY, WAY off the topic question regarding turntables.....
Alright, that's what I'm looking for! Thank you. Will check it out RIGHT
NOW! Thanks, Nick "John Durbin" wrote in message ... Hard to go wrong with the Shure M97xE, great little cartridge for what it costs and a good match for mid to heavy tonearms. I've always liked Shure carts though; I use the V15 type V in its various forms on most of my TT's. JD MOSFET wrote: I know, this is totally the wrong forum, but as I know so many of you and how helpful most all of you are, I thought, "What the heck?" before I post the same question on home audio and audiophile sites, give my old stomping grounds a try. So here goes.... I have an old Technics SL-B2 turntable that is in perfect shape and works perfectly as well. I have had it for many, many years. However, it has been relagated to a box that is kept in my attic or garage for the last 25 years. I still have my record collection going back to 1978 when I purchased my first LP, and I accumulated records at a pretty good clip (perhaps 2 a week) until, I would say, 1988, when EVERYTHING was switched to CD's. Even the EP's that were the last hold-out of recordings not found on CD, but only on vinyl, really disappeared by 1992. By '91-'93, except for an extremelly small niche market of audiophiles (who to THIS DAY will claim that LP's still sound better than CD's given very HIGH quality recordings, EXPERT mastering techniques, and EXCEPTIONAL equipment used in playback). Besides Audiophiles, DJ's continue to this day to use vinyl in clubs as mxing one song to the next is MUCH easier than with CD's (though advances in DJ oriented CD mixing gear with controls like BPM synchrnozation has leveled the playing field). However, besides those two groups, NOBODY BUYS vinyl anymore. Anyway, I have about 400-500 LP's I was flipping through the other day and felt nostalgic and wanted to hear some of this old stuff. However, my turntable is just missing a headshell and cartride (stylus too, of course). I gave it to someone (the headshell and cartride) about 10 years ago as I thought I would NEVER want to use the turntable again, I nearly threw it out (well, I was going to give it to the Salvation Army, same diff.)!!!!! I have already ordered the headshell and it should be here tommorrow or the next day. My question is about what would give me the best bang for my buck in terms of cartridges (with stylus, of course). I definately want to buy new as you NEVER know how many hours a used needle may have seen. I am NOT an audiophile NUT when it comes to my home gear (OK, a little bit) and my turntable is certainly not one you would consider "high-end". But it's built like a tank (surprisingly heavy) and after literally decades of collecting dust it fired right up, by using the strobe adjustment I dialed in the PERFECT 33 1/3 and it never wavered (wow and flutter) at all. I have no doubt it's as good (SQ wise) as any other Technics turntable (I know, I know, DJ's all prefer the 1200 series with direct drive, mine's belt driven, as the 1200's can go from 0-60 MPH in like .02 seconds or some damn thing like that). But again, sound quality wise, they all SOUND the same (given the same cartride) and it becomes more a factor of, again, your cartridege and stylus selection as Technics does not employ more esoteric turntable construction (like thick glass platters, drive-motors COMPLETELY seperated from the spinning table itself, only joined by the belt in an attempt to COMPLETELY erradicate any motor noise that might creep in, and EVEN MORE essoteric and complicated means of isolating ANY vibrations in the environment or the surface the turntable is placed upon. These esoteric turntables might empoly (to name only a few) double decker affairs where the first part of the table is simply a vibrations absorber; different materials employed in constructing some tables such as carbon fiber, fiberglass, REAL glass, and so on and so on......). Anyway, back to my original question. Do any of you out there have a favorite cartridge maker and if so why? I don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money, I just want my records to sound decent as I transpose them to MP3. I used to buy only Audio Technica cartridges as a kid as I thought they made a very good product at a reasonable price. Is that still the case? Are there others to consider? Like I said, I am DEINATELY looking for a NEW cartridge and stylus, but I am not going to spend $500 on a Grado flagship model. It MUST be under $100, preferably under $50. Like I said, I am not all that picky about my sound inside the house (I'm pickier in the car!). Anyway, any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Nick |
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Yeah, that looks perfect. I can get one new on Ebay for $59.56 with
hardware and even a small screwdriver. I like the way it has a stylus guard. I wanted one that had that. Thanks again, Nick "John Durbin" wrote in message ... Hard to go wrong with the Shure M97xE, great little cartridge for what it costs and a good match for mid to heavy tonearms. I've always liked Shure carts though; I use the V15 type V in its various forms on most of my TT's. JD MOSFET wrote: I know, this is totally the wrong forum, but as I know so many of you and how helpful most all of you are, I thought, "What the heck?" before I post the same question on home audio and audiophile sites, give my old stomping grounds a try. So here goes.... I have an old Technics SL-B2 turntable that is in perfect shape and works perfectly as well. I have had it for many, many years. However, it has been relagated to a box that is kept in my attic or garage for the last 25 years. I still have my record collection going back to 1978 when I purchased my first LP, and I accumulated records at a pretty good clip (perhaps 2 a week) until, I would say, 1988, when EVERYTHING was switched to CD's. Even the EP's that were the last hold-out of recordings not found on CD, but only on vinyl, really disappeared by 1992. By '91-'93, except for an extremelly small niche market of audiophiles (who to THIS DAY will claim that LP's still sound better than CD's given very HIGH quality recordings, EXPERT mastering techniques, and EXCEPTIONAL equipment used in playback). Besides Audiophiles, DJ's continue to this day to use vinyl in clubs as mxing one song to the next is MUCH easier than with CD's (though advances in DJ oriented CD mixing gear with controls like BPM synchrnozation has leveled the playing field). However, besides those two groups, NOBODY BUYS vinyl anymore. Anyway, I have about 400-500 LP's I was flipping through the other day and felt nostalgic and wanted to hear some of this old stuff. However, my turntable is just missing a headshell and cartride (stylus too, of course). I gave it to someone (the headshell and cartride) about 10 years ago as I thought I would NEVER want to use the turntable again, I nearly threw it out (well, I was going to give it to the Salvation Army, same diff.)!!!!! I have already ordered the headshell and it should be here tommorrow or the next day. My question is about what would give me the best bang for my buck in terms of cartridges (with stylus, of course). I definately want to buy new as you NEVER know how many hours a used needle may have seen. I am NOT an audiophile NUT when it comes to my home gear (OK, a little bit) and my turntable is certainly not one you would consider "high-end". But it's built like a tank (surprisingly heavy) and after literally decades of collecting dust it fired right up, by using the strobe adjustment I dialed in the PERFECT 33 1/3 and it never wavered (wow and flutter) at all. I have no doubt it's as good (SQ wise) as any other Technics turntable (I know, I know, DJ's all prefer the 1200 series with direct drive, mine's belt driven, as the 1200's can go from 0-60 MPH in like .02 seconds or some damn thing like that). But again, sound quality wise, they all SOUND the same (given the same cartride) and it becomes more a factor of, again, your cartridege and stylus selection as Technics does not employ more esoteric turntable construction (like thick glass platters, drive-motors COMPLETELY seperated from the spinning table itself, only joined by the belt in an attempt to COMPLETELY erradicate any motor noise that might creep in, and EVEN MORE essoteric and complicated means of isolating ANY vibrations in the environment or the surface the turntable is placed upon. These esoteric turntables might empoly (to name only a few) double decker affairs where the first part of the table is simply a vibrations absorber; different materials employed in constructing some tables such as carbon fiber, fiberglass, REAL glass, and so on and so on......). Anyway, back to my original question. Do any of you out there have a favorite cartridge maker and if so why? I don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money, I just want my records to sound decent as I transpose them to MP3. I used to buy only Audio Technica cartridges as a kid as I thought they made a very good product at a reasonable price. Is that still the case? Are there others to consider? Like I said, I am DEINATELY looking for a NEW cartridge and stylus, but I am not going to spend $500 on a Grado flagship model. It MUST be under $100, preferably under $50. Like I said, I am not all that picky about my sound inside the house (I'm pickier in the car!). Anyway, any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Nick |
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In article , "MOSFET" wrote:
I know, this is totally the wrong forum, but as I know so many of you and how helpful most all of you are, I thought, "What the heck?" before I post the same question on home audio and audiophile sites, give my old stomping grounds a try. So here goes.... I have an old Technics SL-B2 turntable that is in perfect shape and works perfectly as well. I have had it for many, many years. However, it has been relagated to a box that is kept in my attic or garage for the last 25 years. I still have my record collection going back to 1978 when I purchased my first LP, and I accumulated records at a pretty good clip (perhaps 2 a week) until, I would say, 1988, when EVERYTHING was switched to CD's. Even the EP's that were the last hold-out of recordings not found on CD, but only on vinyl, really disappeared by 1992. By '91-'93, except for an extremelly small niche market of audiophiles (who to THIS DAY will claim that LP's still sound better than CD's given very HIGH quality recordings, EXPERT mastering techniques, and EXCEPTIONAL equipment used in playback). Besides Audiophiles, DJ's continue to this day to use vinyl in clubs as mxing one song to the next is MUCH easier than with CD's (though advances in DJ oriented CD mixing gear with controls like BPM synchrnozation has leveled the playing field). However, besides those two groups, NOBODY BUYS vinyl anymore. Anyway, I have about 400-500 LP's I was flipping through the other day and felt nostalgic and wanted to hear some of this old stuff. However, my turntable is just missing a headshell and cartride (stylus too, of course). I gave it to someone (the headshell and cartride) about 10 years ago as I thought I would NEVER want to use the turntable again, I nearly threw it out (well, I was going to give it to the Salvation Army, same diff.)!!!!! I have already ordered the headshell and it should be here tommorrow or the next day. My question is about what would give me the best bang for my buck in terms of cartridges (with stylus, of course). I definately want to buy new as you NEVER know how many hours a used needle may have seen. I am NOT an audiophile NUT when it comes to my home gear (OK, a little bit) and my I would imagine you could tell with a microscope. Not a bad idea looking at anything you buy, new or used. My first thought for a new one is Audio Technica. Seems my last and best cartridge was of that company. It was also a moving coil, but a high output one. Lets get back in time. My first turntable, aside from that kiddie box, was a Gerrard AT-60. I still remember the model! Cartridge was I think an Empire 880P, billed as the worlds finest cartridge. Was was too compliant for the Gerrard. Next was an AR turntable with a Pickering cartridge. I never really like the Pikering but I went through a couple models. Oh that one with the brush! Then was a ADC or BSR direct drive and a Shure Type III. Of the turntable made out of composite was horrible as it picked up LF room sounds and FEEDBACK !! Then off to a Sony which was a lot better, but I didn't have luck much luck with direct drives and feedback. I then aquired a Dual model with that Audio Technica cartridge. I bought it used from a doctor. I then bought a used Thorens and used the Shure on it. Later someone gave me an SME arm but never installed it. All I have left is the Dual and AT cartridge installed, with the bad speed control belt. Got the old AR along with a Pioneer of my brothers. I'm never going to fool with the AR and the probably not the Pioneer. I want to see if I can work the Dual, maybe sometime. I have records, not too many. I was always too cheap to buy many records or CD's. Last record I bought was Appetite for Destruction. One of the first records I bought, other than those kidde records, was from Blue Cheer. I also used to get those sound effect records and like to make like a train going through the basement. My favorite bands who also influenced me the most early on, Led Zepplin, Santana, Iron Butterfly,Neil Young, Doors, Jimi H, Chamber Brothers, Sly Stone, and I forget the rest of my personal top 10. I was always more into music than songs. Wow I just listened to Love peace & Happiness and Time has come today on You Tube. One song that I have turn turn up to the max and start to dance..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dslP59PrSVY I always liked influencing others with my music by playing it loud. Of course, everybody likes my music !! Seems like I was always the one with the sound system for parties, etc. I always like making speakers, even though early on I didn't know much. My first home speakers I made out of 12 inch Utah drivers and gold colored horns bought at Olsen's. In the military I used my Allied receiver driving home made garbage can speakers in back of the clothing cabinets, in the barracks. Basically a stealth system. They cranked pretty good. Car audio, my HU broke in the truck about 3 years ago and I have nothing right now. I had to fix it once before after buying a $55 maintenence manual for the $450 Pioneer. I need to remove that system. Maybe I'll try to fix it one day. I got a stock Cavalier system. I'm starting to feel old. I turned 60. greg |
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WAY, WAY off the topic question regarding turntables.....
My first MM turntable (which happen to be my first turntable ever, I NEVER
owned one of those cheapo ceramic cartridge type, you know the type kids and schools owned in the 60-70's') was a VERY old BIC (remember them) I recieved obviously secondhand from an uncle. It had an Audio Technica Cartridge but no stylus so I bought one and was immediately impressed at the sound quality. Now keep in mind, this is about 8 years before Cd's made their introduction. Now I had a pretty decent tape teck in a Technics single well with Dolby B,C, Metal,Cro2, and normal bias controls, as well as the short-lived DBX capability that actually worked quite well (this was also the days prior to every moderate priced cassette deck being a dual well). I also had an Akai reel-to-reel. But I will NEVER forget the first time I heard a good LP on that BIC with the new Technics Stylus, It absolutely took my breath away. I didn't know my stereo could sound so good. I used the BIC for about 4-5 years and then upgraded to the turntable I actually still own today, the the Technics SL-B. Frankly, although the BIC did a more than adequate job and I really noticed no sonic differences (the BIC was a high-end model and sold for $200 back in 1973) between the two, the much older BIC just plain LOOKED OLD FASHION. I mean it was that black plastic everything was made of back in the early 70's. It also did not have the strobe dots on the platter, or of course the strobe light and adjustable pitch that I always just thought looked SO FRIKKIN' COOL and high-tech (give me a break, I'm only 13 then). I simply wanted a turntable that LOOKED as modern as the rest of my system (every other component was brushed aluminum), so I saved my pennies and bought the new SL-B2 with Audio Technica cardridge included. What I DID notice was how much more solid the technics felt. Like I said before, EVEN 30 years later it is still built like a TANK, not ONE SINGLE loose part. A real testament to how well Technics turntables are built because this one went to college with me and survived COUNTLESS moves as a young man. Yet today, you would swear it's new except for a scratch or two on the dustcover. It actually was the admiration of it's construction that had a lot to do (as well as wanting to hear some of my old vinyl) with this project. I was really surprised that after a dozen+ moves and so on, it seemed to be in as good a shape as when it was purchased. MOSFET "GregS" wrote in message ... In article , "MOSFET" wrote: I know, this is totally the wrong forum, but as I know so many of you and how helpful most all of you are, I thought, "What the heck?" before I post the same question on home audio and audiophile sites, give my old stomping grounds a try. So here goes.... I have an old Technics SL-B2 turntable that is in perfect shape and works perfectly as well. I have had it for many, many years. However, it has been relagated to a box that is kept in my attic or garage for the last 25 years. I still have my record collection going back to 1978 when I purchased my first LP, and I accumulated records at a pretty good clip (perhaps 2 a week) until, I would say, 1988, when EVERYTHING was switched to CD's. Even the EP's that were the last hold-out of recordings not found on CD, but only on vinyl, really disappeared by 1992. By '91-'93, except for an extremelly small niche market of audiophiles (who to THIS DAY will claim that LP's still sound better than CD's given very HIGH quality recordings, EXPERT mastering techniques, and EXCEPTIONAL equipment used in playback). Besides Audiophiles, DJ's continue to this day to use vinyl in clubs as mxing one song to the next is MUCH easier than with CD's (though advances in DJ oriented CD mixing gear with controls like BPM synchrnozation has leveled the playing field). However, besides those two groups, NOBODY BUYS vinyl anymore. Anyway, I have about 400-500 LP's I was flipping through the other day and felt nostalgic and wanted to hear some of this old stuff. However, my turntable is just missing a headshell and cartride (stylus too, of course). I gave it to someone (the headshell and cartride) about 10 years ago as I thought I would NEVER want to use the turntable again, I nearly threw it out (well, I was going to give it to the Salvation Army, same diff.)!!!!! I have already ordered the headshell and it should be here tommorrow or the next day. My question is about what would give me the best bang for my buck in terms of cartridges (with stylus, of course). I definately want to buy new as you NEVER know how many hours a used needle may have seen. I am NOT an audiophile NUT when it comes to my home gear (OK, a little bit) and my I would imagine you could tell with a microscope. Not a bad idea looking at anything you buy, new or used. My first thought for a new one is Audio Technica. Seems my last and best cartridge was of that company. It was also a moving coil, but a high output one. Lets get back in time. My first turntable, aside from that kiddie box, was a Gerrard AT-60. I still remember the model! Cartridge was I think an Empire 880P, billed as the worlds finest cartridge. Was was too compliant for the Gerrard. Next was an AR turntable with a Pickering cartridge. I never really like the Pikering but I went through a couple models. Oh that one with the brush! Then was a ADC or BSR direct drive and a Shure Type III. Of the turntable made out of composite was horrible as it picked up LF room sounds and FEEDBACK !! Then off to a Sony which was a lot better, but I didn't have luck much luck with direct drives and feedback. I then aquired a Dual model with that Audio Technica cartridge. I bought it used from a doctor. I then bought a used Thorens and used the Shure on it. Later someone gave me an SME arm but never installed it. All I have left is the Dual and AT cartridge installed, with the bad speed control belt. Got the old AR along with a Pioneer of my brothers. I'm never going to fool with the AR and the probably not the Pioneer. I want to see if I can work the Dual, maybe sometime. I have records, not too many. I was always too cheap to buy many records or CD's. Last record I bought was Appetite for Destruction. One of the first records I bought, other than those kidde records, was from Blue Cheer. I also used to get those sound effect records and like to make like a train going through the basement. My favorite bands who also influenced me the most early on, Led Zepplin, Santana, Iron Butterfly,Neil Young, Doors, Jimi H, Chamber Brothers, Sly Stone, and I forget the rest of my personal top 10. I was always more into music than songs. Wow I just listened to Love peace & Happiness and Time has come today on You Tube. One song that I have turn turn up to the max and start to dance..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dslP59PrSVY I always liked influencing others with my music by playing it loud. Of course, everybody likes my music !! Seems like I was always the one with the sound system for parties, etc. I always like making speakers, even though early on I didn't know much. My first home speakers I made out of 12 inch Utah drivers and gold colored horns bought at Olsen's. In the military I used my Allied receiver driving home made garbage can speakers in back of the clothing cabinets, in the barracks. Basically a stealth system. They cranked pretty good. Car audio, my HU broke in the truck about 3 years ago and I have nothing right now. I had to fix it once before after buying a $55 maintenence manual for the $450 Pioneer. I need to remove that system. Maybe I'll try to fix it one day. I got a stock Cavalier system. I'm starting to feel old. I turned 60. greg |
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In article , "MOSFET" wrote:
My first MM turntable (which happen to be my first turntable ever, I NEVER owned one of those cheapo ceramic cartridge type, you know the type kids and schools owned in the 60-70's') was a VERY old BIC (remember them) I recieved When you talk turntables, you must have a record clamp. Well not really, but the clamp takes away some of the records resonance sitting on the platter. It DOES make a difference. greg |
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Oh I forgot, those garbage can speakers
I made in 1970 used 10 inch Radio Shack coaxials. You turn the plastic can upside down, cut the hole out with a knife and put mounting holes in, stuff the inside with something like a pillow, turn it back over and rock. It was something you can do in the Army barracks without much of anything. greg I love these kind of stories, I really do. You seem very much like myself as a kid, not a lot of money, but an absolute LOVE of music and the gear that plays the music. Oh, and a desire to listen at ear-bleeding levels. Weren't we all soooo very creative when we had to be (nessesicity being the mother of invention)? I mean, there were few components I actually bought myself (I think the Technics turntable was the only one). My reciever I got for my 11th birthday from my grandparents, my grandfather being a bit of an audiophile himself. The reel-to-reel had been my Dad's and was, without a doubt, the oldest component in my system (probably circa 1965), but the great thing about open-reel is that they really had perfected that technology a long time ago (I mean, this was how records were recorded). You didn't need dolby as there was not any excessive hiss hoise, the trick, however, was to use the fastest speed for optimum performance (it had 3, I believe, different speed settings, the fastest being the best obviously) and two nice big VU meters. Although it was technically a 4 track recorder as you had access to four tracks, you could not record anything on ALL four tracks at once, just two (it wasn't a proffesional model, BUT a high-end consumer model). You switched between tracks 1&3, and then 2&4 on the control panel. But like I said, despite it's age, I never found a cassette deck (even much later into the 90's) that could equall the recording quality. My first set of speakers were REALLY pathetic. There was only a single driver, a 6" midrange with a whizzer cone around the dustcover for high-frequency enhancement. We all know how well THOSE work. But over the years as I got older and got my first part-time job, I started buying new pieces or upgrading existing ones. I remember when I finally had enough money saved to buy a new set of speakers. This was 1981, I believe, and like any kid I was much more interested in the size of the woofer than the fact that these were a "no-name" brand. There was this stereo store going out of business and having a big "out of business sale" in Everett, close to where I lived, so I talked my Mom into taking me there (was still a year away from having a liscense) and got a pair of speakers (for the life of me, I honestly cannot remember the brand, nor would anyone recognize it if I could). They were HEAVEN comapred to my single driver speaker I was forced to make due with for 5 some-odd years. They each had a 12" woofer, 5" midrange, and 1" tweeter and I bought the pair new for $80. Now they weren't all that good compared to speakers now, of course. But man, they were heaven to me. The sonic inprovments were dramatic. And then we move on to the "borrowing" of that Ampeg bass-guitar amplifier that I used as a subwoofer. FINALLY, I had what I considered serious fire-power. I actually continued to use those single driver speakers as I placed them in the other corners of my bedroom to create a quasi-surround sound system. THANK GOD my Pioneer reciever could take the parelling of the two, so it now saw 4 ohms per channel. I had NO IDEA that what I was doing could be potentially harmful to my reciever, NO CLUE AT ALL. But I did notice a roomful of sound. Oh, you know, I do remember that the Pioneer suddenly ran much warmer than before. But it never quite on me, ever. I eventually gave it to a friend when I upgraded to a better reciever much, much later (after college). Anyway, just some more remenicing..... MOSFET |
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In article , "MOSFET" wrote:
Oh I forgot, those garbage can speakers I made in 1970 used 10 inch Radio Shack coaxials. You turn the plastic can upside down, cut the hole out with a knife and put mounting holes in, stuff the inside with something like a pillow, turn it back over and rock. It was something you can do in the Army barracks without much of anything. greg I love these kind of stories, I really do. You seem very much like myself as a kid, not a lot of money, but an absolute LOVE of music and the gear that plays the music. Oh, and a desire to listen at ear-bleeding levels. My first stereo had tha AT60 changer and I built a Knight-Kit transistor amp. I bought 2- 12 inch Utah drivers and 2 Olsen horns. I think my dad helped build a small cabinet. This was in about 8th or 9th grade. Later I built a Eico FM tuner. I had built tons of kits also being into ham radio. In the 70's after I got a job in Barstow, I was buying more expensive equipment. I picked up a large reel Teac. That was a nightmare. I didn't use it much because it would chew the tapes. I finally figured it needed new tape heads. I actually started to lap the heads. It was getting better, then went downhill. New heads fixed the recorder. I could not figure how it was bad from the dealer, but I waited too long after I paid $500 in 1975 money. Finally got 2 SWTP 200 watt amp kits to drive my Bose speakers. Before that I built one from scratch that was only 100 watts. In the early 80's I got into major speaker building, and I got much influence from Speaker Builder mag. I built dozens of different speakers. My parents basement in Pittsburgh was filled with boxes. I was selling some to DJ's and other folks. I really liked the way my cheap set of Altec Voice of the Theater look alikes made rock sound live. It was all the plywood. greg |
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That's great. I never was industrious enough to build anything other than
simple kits Radio Shack sold like I remember building an AM radio and an AM broadcaster, but the range was pathetic so it wasn't like I could start my own radio station. I also owned several of those 100+ projects kits that Radio Shack sold. You could make all sorts of useless things like tone generators and solar powered radios. I never built anything useful for my stereo. But I seemed to be able to scare up components like the Ampeg bass amplifier that I integrated into my system. I loved that thing. Two 15" drivers and perhaps 150-200 watts to drive them. Though my band director made me give it back a week before I graduated, I enjoyed that thing immensly for 3+ years, and it certainly created a benchmark in terms of bass power that I strove hard to replace, which I finally achieved when, in college, I purchased a 15" subwoofer and 150 watt X 2 amplifier (the sub was unpowered). I lived in a dorm and this did not make me very popular with my neighbors. But a side note to that, it was in college that I first began to understand the peculiar nature of bass. When I would crank my system (which I didn't do all that often), it wasn't my immediate neighbors who complained, but students whose rooms were very far from mine, but located on the boundries of the building. I remember being VERY surprised when some upset student would complian and their room was located 12 rooms from mine, yet my next door neighbor heard almost nothing. I remember thinking just how strange it was. MOSFET "GregS" wrote in message ... In article , (GregS) wrote: In article , "MOSFET" wrote: Oh I forgot, those garbage can speakers I made in 1970 used 10 inch Radio Shack coaxials. You turn the plastic can upside down, cut the hole out with a knife and put mounting holes in, stuff the inside with something like a pillow, turn it back over and rock. It was something you can do in the Army barracks without much of anything. greg I love these kind of stories, I really do. You seem very much like myself as a kid, not a lot of money, but an absolute LOVE of music and the gear that plays the music. Oh, and a desire to listen at ear-bleeding levels. WIth 2 sets of my bass speakers in the basement and 200 wats per side, was enough to get 130 dB ear splitting volume. I forgot to mention me and my friend back in the early 70's. He played bass with a pair of Ampeg transistor rigs. Each had 4 - 12 inch Altec drivers and a horn. 8- 12 inch Altecs can make yourself vibrate. We would hook up his fathers tape deck and try different things, music, echo, etc. greg |
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I will get a record clamp. I didn't post it but a couple months ago I got a
new belt, one designed SPECIFICALLY for this table, not a generic Technics belt designed for MANY models as there are subtle differences in length that can lengthen or shorten the life of the belt if you don't get the EXACT model for your table, as well as the new Audio Technica cartridge and headshell. It all sound FANTASTIC and I was pleased that after so many years, my vinyal still sounded outstanding (of course, I have always neem carefull about storing my collection in the house, not outside in the garage or a shed where heat or cold can damage the album). I have to admitt, there is something about vinyal records and the superior sound quality they produce (provided you have a decent table, cartridge, amp and speakers). Many records I played just plain sounded better in every respect than the CD or high sampling rate MP3. I bought a new sound card as well just so I could make superior rips of some of my records. However, as happened when I bought a new video card, I discovered benefits I simply did not expect. For instance, I bought the new video card 5 years ago so I could integrate my HD TV to my computer. But perhaps the BIGGEST benefit I completely did not expect from that purchase is now I use two LCD monitors at all times. I have found this to be a wonderful convience and cannot imagine EVER going back to a single monitor. For instance, I usually have a movie going on my 22" LCD, my "main" monitor, and then I surf the net, check mail, do countless other things on my 19" secondary monitor. I LOVE that, use it EVERY TIME I USE THE COMPUTER, and certainly use that feature more than the integration of my computer to my TV. Well, I discovered a similar thing with my new sound card. Although I bought it for ripping albums, I also now have 7.1 or 5.1 audio pumped to my Denon whenever I play a movie on my computer and tranfer it to my home theater (as long as the movie, of course, has multi-channel audio encoded on it). But beyond even that, the BIGGEST benefit is the dramatic improvement is SQ with the new card. It is quite amazing the difference. I have pretty good phones, top-of-the line ($80) 50mm driver Sound Candy over the ear phones. I compeletley did not the expect the improvemnt. I thought my "stock" (built-in) sound card of my Compaq delivered good sound. I was wrong. This aftermarket card I bought sounded AMAZINGLY better, and also came with some sound tools (beyond your basic EQ and reverb) that can manipulate the SQ in subtle and great ways. Anyway, it just goes to show you, as I've said, computer makers do not focus much on sound and video quality, instead focusing on the four parameter most consumers focus on, price, processor speed, hard drive size and RAM size. Other things, (mouse, keyboard, sound, video, CD and DVD, and sometimes modem hardware are now located all on the motherboard) and to keep costs down, are often of poor quality. MOSFET "GregS" wrote in message ... In article , "MOSFET" wrote: My first MM turntable (which happen to be my first turntable ever, I NEVER owned one of those cheapo ceramic cartridge type, you know the type kids and schools owned in the 60-70's') was a VERY old BIC (remember them) I recieved When you talk turntables, you must have a record clamp. Well not really, but the clamp takes away some of the records resonance sitting on the platter. It DOES make a difference. greg |
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I will get a record clamp. I didn't post it but a couple months ago I got a new belt, one designed SPECIFICALLY for this table, not a generic Technics belt designed for MANY models as there are subtle differences in length that can lengthen or shorten the life of the belt if you don't get the EXACT model for your table, as well as the new Audio Technica cartridge and headshell. It all sound FANTASTIC and I was pleased that after so many years, my vinyal still sounded outstanding (of course, I have always neem carefull about storing my collection in the house, not outside in the garage or a shed where heat or cold can damage the album). I have to admitt, there is something about vinyal records and the superior sound quality they produce (provided you have a decent table, cartridge, amp and speakers). Many records I played just plain sounded better in every respect than the CD or high sampling rate MP3. I bought a new sound card as well just so I could make superior rips of some of my records. However, as happened when I bought a new video card, I discovered benefits I simply did not expect. For instance, I bought the new video card 5 years ago so I could integrate my HD TV to my computer. But perhaps the BIGGEST benefit I completely did not expect from that purchase is now I use two LCD monitors at all times. I have found this to be a wonderful convience and cannot imagine EVER going back to a single monitor. For instance, I usually have a movie going on my 22" LCD, my "main" monitor, and then I surf the net, check mail, do countless other things on my 19" secondary monitor. I LOVE that, use it EVERY TIME I USE THE COMPUTER, and certainly use that feature more than the integration of my computer to my TV. Well, I discovered a similar thing with my new sound card. Although I bought it for ripping albums, I also now have 7.1 or 5.1 audio pumped to my Denon whenever I play a movie on my computer and tranfer it to my home theater (as long as the movie, of course, has multi-channel audio encoded on it). But beyond even that, the BIGGEST benefit is the dramatic improvement is SQ with the new card. It is quite amazing the difference. I have pretty good phones, top-of-the line ($80) 50mm driver Sound Candy over the ear phones. I compeletley did not the expect the improvemnt. I thought my "stock" (built-in) sound card of my Compaq delivered good sound. I was wrong. This aftermarket card I bought sounded AMAZINGLY better, and also came with some sound tools (beyond your basic EQ and reverb) that can manipulate the SQ in subtle and great ways. I have 3 headphones in my collection. They are all different yet have made the headlines as being great for one reason or another. I do like the AT's the best, and don't touch your ears. AT ATH-AD700 bought a couple years ago, open back http://www.ambientweather.com/dbathad700.html Grado SR-60 bought in the 90's, open back Sony MDRV6 orginal set bought in the 80's, closed back greg Anyway, it just goes to show you, as I've said, computer makers do not focus much on sound and video quality, instead focusing on the four parameter most consumers focus on, price, processor speed, hard drive size and RAM size. Other things, (mouse, keyboard, sound, video, CD and DVD, and sometimes modem hardware are now located all on the motherboard) and to keep costs down, are often of poor quality. MOSFET "GregS" wrote in message ... In article , "MOSFET" wrote: My first MM turntable (which happen to be my first turntable ever, I NEVER owned one of those cheapo ceramic cartridge type, you know the type kids and schools owned in the 60-70's') was a VERY old BIC (remember them) I recieved When you talk turntables, you must have a record clamp. Well not really, but the clamp takes away some of the records resonance sitting on the platter. It DOES make a difference. greg |
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I, as well, happen to own three sets of phones. A Grado 220 (a $200 set of
headphones), a Koss over-the-ear model k/6ALC, and the Sound Candy's top of the line over-the-ear (I am a BIG fan of over the ear phones) 50mm driver headphones bought at Best Buy about two years ago. Each has their merrits and drawbacks. The Koss are just plain heavy and not very comfortable. They sound great, but after wearing them for over 30 minutes, they begin to fatigue my ears, physically, not sonically. The Grado's sound WONDERFUL, and are perhaps my best sounding phones, but as ALL Grado's are (like your famous Model 60's), they are not over the ear (and just to be very clear, when I say over-the-ear, I am reffering to phones that completely cup your ears, cutting out to a large degree outside sounds). So although I do like the SQ of my Grado's that I have owned the longest, 13 years now, I have two main complaints, for $200 phones they are built VERY, VERY cheaply and have had to be glued back together twice over the years and have duct-tape on them now to hold them together, and then, like I said, they are NOT over the ear which I REALLY like as my home is often very noisy with a 16 year old neice living with my wife and I. The Sound Candy's, on the other hand, are perhaps the VERY MOST COMFOTABLE phones I have ever put on and CERTAINLY ever owned. I love them for that reason. They are INCREIBLY light, feather light, yet are still over the ear type. I find the SQ EXCELLENT, definately rivaling my Koss phones. So of the three, I just plain tend to use the Sound Candy phones. AS I said, they are wickedly comfortable (I can wear them all day and just plain forget they are there), and the SQ, while perhaps not QUITE (but close) to the SQ of my Grado's, more than make up for that fact because of their other benefits. I, like you Greg, care very much about the quality of my phones and I have already run into some audiophile friends of mine who out-of-hand "poo-poo"ed my Sound Candy's as their over-the-top styling and use of colors and graphics lead many to believe they are simply designed for kids and cannot be taken seriously by true audiophiles. HOWEVER, their opinions quickly change as soon as I audition them for my buddies who come over to my place. Bottom line: SoundCandy DOES make some outstanding quality headphones, regardless of all the "flair" associated with their design and seemingly COUNTLESS models. The trick is to get their top of the line models with the larger 50mm drivers (MOST of their phones use smaller 40mm drivers). But if you have not before, GIVE THEM A TRY!!!! You may be pleasently surprised that you can purchase such an wickedly comfortable over the ear headphone that rivals the BEST when it comes to SQ at a reasonable price ($80). If you are a connesiour of headphones, at least try 'em. I was very pleasently surprised when trying them at Best Buy and have owned them for two years now and they have been stepped on, dropped, ect., but are still going strong (built very sturdy and strong) and sound as good as the day I bought them. Just make sure you try the 50mm driver models. MOSFET "GregS" wrote in message ... In article , "MOSFET" wrote: I will get a record clamp. I didn't post it but a couple months ago I got a new belt, one designed SPECIFICALLY for this table, not a generic Technics belt designed for MANY models as there are subtle differences in length that can lengthen or shorten the life of the belt if you don't get the EXACT model for your table, as well as the new Audio Technica cartridge and headshell. It all sound FANTASTIC and I was pleased that after so many years, my vinyal still sounded outstanding (of course, I have always neem carefull about storing my collection in the house, not outside in the garage or a shed where heat or cold can damage the album). I have to admitt, there is something about vinyal records and the superior sound quality they produce (provided you have a decent table, cartridge, amp and speakers). Many records I played just plain sounded better in every respect than the CD or high sampling rate MP3. I bought a new sound card as well just so I could make superior rips of some of my records. However, as happened when I bought a new video card, I discovered benefits I simply did not expect. For instance, I bought the new video card 5 years ago so I could integrate my HD TV to my computer. But perhaps the BIGGEST benefit I completely did not expect from that purchase is now I use two LCD monitors at all times. I have found this to be a wonderful convience and cannot imagine EVER going back to a single monitor. For instance, I usually have a movie going on my 22" LCD, my "main" monitor, and then I surf the net, check mail, do countless other things on my 19" secondary monitor. I LOVE that, use it EVERY TIME I USE THE COMPUTER, and certainly use that feature more than the integration of my computer to my TV. Well, I discovered a similar thing with my new sound card. Although I bought it for ripping albums, I also now have 7.1 or 5.1 audio pumped to my Denon whenever I play a movie on my computer and tranfer it to my home theater (as long as the movie, of course, has multi-channel audio encoded on it). But beyond even that, the BIGGEST benefit is the dramatic improvement is SQ with the new card. It is quite amazing the difference. I have pretty good phones, top-of-the line ($80) 50mm driver Sound Candy over the ear phones. I compeletley did not the expect the improvemnt. I thought my "stock" (built-in) sound card of my Compaq delivered good sound. I was wrong. This aftermarket card I bought sounded AMAZINGLY better, and also came with some sound tools (beyond your basic EQ and reverb) that can manipulate the SQ in subtle and great ways. I have 3 headphones in my collection. They are all different yet have made the headlines as being great for one reason or another. I do like the AT's the best, and don't touch your ears. AT ATH-AD700 bought a couple years ago, open back http://www.ambientweather.com/dbathad700.html Grado SR-60 bought in the 90's, open back Sony MDRV6 orginal set bought in the 80's, closed back greg Anyway, it just goes to show you, as I've said, computer makers do not focus much on sound and video quality, instead focusing on the four parameter most consumers focus on, price, processor speed, hard drive size and RAM size. Other things, (mouse, keyboard, sound, video, CD and DVD, and sometimes modem hardware are now located all on the motherboard) and to keep costs down, are often of poor quality. MOSFET "GregS" wrote in message ... In article , "MOSFET" wrote: My first MM turntable (which happen to be my first turntable ever, I NEVER owned one of those cheapo ceramic cartridge type, you know the type kids and schools owned in the 60-70's') was a VERY old BIC (remember them) I recieved When you talk turntables, you must have a record clamp. 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I, as well, happen to own three sets of phones. A Grado 220 (a $200 set of headphones), a Koss over-the-ear model k/6ALC, and the Sound Candy's top of the line over-the-ear (I am a BIG fan of over the ear phones) 50mm driver headphones bought at Best Buy about two years ago. Each has their merrits and drawbacks. The Koss are just plain heavy and not very comfortable. They sound great, but after wearing them for over 30 minutes, they begin to fatigue my ears, physically, not sonically. The Grado's sound WONDERFUL, and are perhaps my best sounding phones, but as ALL Grado's are (like your famous Model 60's), they are not over the ear (and just to be very clear, when I say over-the-ear, I am reffering to phones that completely cup your ears, cutting out to a large degree outside sounds). So although I do like the SQ of my Grado's that I have owned the longest, 13 years now, I have two main complaints, for $200 phones they are built VERY, VERY cheaply and have had to be glued back together twice over the years and have duct-tape on them now to hold them together, and then, like I said, they are NOT over the ear which I REALLY like as my home is often very noisy with a 16 year old neice living with my wife and I. The Sound Candy's, on the other hand, are perhaps the VERY MOST COMFOTABLE phones I have ever put on and CERTAINLY ever owned. I love them for that reason. They are INCREIBLY light, feather light, yet are still over the ear type. I find the SQ EXCELLENT, definately rivaling my Koss phones. So of the three, I just plain tend to use the Sound Candy phones. AS I said, they are wickedly comfortable (I can wear them all day and just plain forget they are there), and the SQ, while perhaps not QUITE (but close) to the SQ of my Grado's, more than make up for that fact because of their other benefits. I can't find any link to Sound Candy. There would be a lot mot Audio Technica's sold if they were in the outlets. There are similar models up to $1000 not available in the American market. The current closed back model for mixing is highly regarded by pro's. ATH-M50 greg I, like you Greg, care very much about the quality of my phones and I have already run into some audiophile friends of mine who out-of-hand "poo-poo"ed my Sound Candy's as their over-the-top styling and use of colors and graphics lead many to believe they are simply designed for kids and cannot be taken seriously by true audiophiles. HOWEVER, their opinions quickly change as soon as I audition them for my buddies who come over to my place. Bottom line: SoundCandy DOES make some outstanding quality headphones, regardless of all the "flair" associated with their design and seemingly COUNTLESS models. The trick is to get their top of the line models with the larger 50mm drivers (MOST of their phones use smaller 40mm drivers). But if you have not before, GIVE THEM A TRY!!!! You may be pleasently surprised that you can purchase such an wickedly comfortable over the ear headphone that rivals the BEST when it comes to SQ at a reasonable price ($80). If you are a connesiour of headphones, at least try 'em. I was very pleasently surprised when trying them at Best Buy and have owned them for two years now and they have been stepped on, dropped, ect., but are still going strong (built very sturdy and strong) and sound as good as the day I bought them. Just make sure you try the 50mm driver models. MOSFET "GregS" wrote in message ... In article , "MOSFET" wrote: I will get a record clamp. I didn't post it but a couple months ago I got a new belt, one designed SPECIFICALLY for this table, not a generic Technics belt designed for MANY models as there are subtle differences in length that can lengthen or shorten the life of the belt if you don't get the EXACT model for your table, as well as the new Audio Technica cartridge and headshell. It all sound FANTASTIC and I was pleased that after so many years, my vinyal still sounded outstanding (of course, I have always neem carefull about storing my collection in the house, not outside in the garage or a shed where heat or cold can damage the album). I have to admitt, there is something about vinyal records and the superior sound quality they produce (provided you have a decent table, cartridge, amp and speakers). Many records I played just plain sounded better in every respect than the CD or high sampling rate MP3. I bought a new sound card as well just so I could make superior rips of some of my records. However, as happened when I bought a new video card, I discovered benefits I simply did not expect. For instance, I bought the new video card 5 years ago so I could integrate my HD TV to my computer. But perhaps the BIGGEST benefit I completely did not expect from that purchase is now I use two LCD monitors at all times. I have found this to be a wonderful convience and cannot imagine EVER going back to a single monitor. For instance, I usually have a movie going on my 22" LCD, my "main" monitor, and then I surf the net, check mail, do countless other things on my 19" secondary monitor. I LOVE that, use it EVERY TIME I USE THE COMPUTER, and certainly use that feature more than the integration of my computer to my TV. Well, I discovered a similar thing with my new sound card. Although I bought it for ripping albums, I also now have 7.1 or 5.1 audio pumped to my Denon whenever I play a movie on my computer and tranfer it to my home theater (as long as the movie, of course, has multi-channel audio encoded on it). But beyond even that, the BIGGEST benefit is the dramatic improvement is SQ with the new card. It is quite amazing the difference. I have pretty good phones, top-of-the line ($80) 50mm driver Sound Candy over the ear phones. I compeletley did not the expect the improvemnt. I thought my "stock" (built-in) sound card of my Compaq delivered good sound. I was wrong. This aftermarket card I bought sounded AMAZINGLY better, and also came with some sound tools (beyond your basic EQ and reverb) that can manipulate the SQ in subtle and great ways. I have 3 headphones in my collection. They are all different yet have made the headlines as being great for one reason or another. I do like the AT's the best, and don't touch your ears. AT ATH-AD700 bought a couple years ago, open back http://www.ambientweather.com/dbathad700.html Grado SR-60 bought in the 90's, open back Sony MDRV6 orginal set bought in the 80's, closed back greg Anyway, it just goes to show you, as I've said, computer makers do not focus much on sound and video quality, instead focusing on the four parameter most consumers focus on, price, processor speed, hard drive size and RAM size. Other things, (mouse, keyboard, sound, video, CD and DVD, and sometimes modem hardware are now located all on the motherboard) and to keep costs down, are often of poor quality. MOSFET "GregS" wrote in message .. . In article , "MOSFET" wrote: My first MM turntable (which happen to be my first turntable ever, I NEVER owned one of those cheapo ceramic cartridge type, you know the type kids and schools owned in the 60-70's') was a VERY old BIC (remember them) I recieved When you talk turntables, you must have a record clamp. Well not really, but the clamp takes away some of the records resonance sitting on the platter. It DOES make a difference. greg |
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WAY, WAY off the topic question regarding turntables.....
Agreed, on the good 'ol turntable. Mine is just a Pioneer PL-L1000
linear turntable, which I mounted a Shure V15 on. I really don't mind the occasional "click" or "pop" associated with vinyl, I definitely prefer its overall sound quality to that of a CD. And I'm not even taking into account, the ****ty way they have been mastering the more modern CDs (from the last 10 years or so), either. I will get a record clamp. I didn't post it but a couple months ago I got a new belt, one designed SPECIFICALLY for this table, not a generic Technics belt designed for MANY models as there are subtle differences in length that can lengthen or shorten the life of the belt if you don't get the EXACT model for your table, as well as the new Audio Technica cartridge and headshell. It all sound FANTASTIC and I was pleased that after so many years, my vinyal still sounded outstanding (of course, I have always neem carefull about storing my collection in the house, not outside in the garage or a shed where heat or cold can damage the album). I have to admitt, there is something about vinyal records and the superior sound quality they produce (provided you have a decent table, cartridge, amp and speakers). Many records I played just plain sounded better in every respect than the CD or high sampling rate MP3. I bought a new sound card as well just so I could make superior rips of some of my records. However, as happened when I bought a new video card, I discovered benefits I simply did not expect. For instance, I bought the new video card 5 years ago so I could integrate my HD TV to my computer. But perhaps the BIGGEST benefit I completely did not expect from that purchase is now I use two LCD monitors at all times. I have found this to be a wonderful convience and cannot imagine EVER going back to a single monitor. For instance, I usually have a movie going on my 22" LCD, my "main" monitor, and then I surf the net, check mail, do countless other things on my 19" secondary monitor. I LOVE that, use it EVERY TIME I USE THE COMPUTER, and certainly use that feature more than the integration of my computer to my TV. Well, I discovered a similar thing with my new sound card. Although I bought it for ripping albums, I also now have 7.1 or 5.1 audio pumped to my Denon whenever I play a movie on my computer and tranfer it to my home theater (as long as the movie, of course, has multi-channel audio encoded on it). But beyond even that, the BIGGEST benefit is the dramatic improvement is SQ with the new card. It is quite amazing the difference. I have pretty good phones, top-of-the line ($80) 50mm driver Sound Candy over the ear phones. I compeletley did not the expect the improvemnt. I thought my "stock" (built-in) sound card of my Compaq delivered good sound. I was wrong. This aftermarket card I bought sounded AMAZINGLY better, and also came with some sound tools (beyond your basic EQ and reverb) that can manipulate the SQ in subtle and great ways. Anyway, it just goes to show you, as I've said, computer makers do not focus much on sound and video quality, instead focusing on the four parameter most consumers focus on, price, processor speed, hard drive size and RAM size. Other things, (mouse, keyboard, sound, video, CD and DVD, and sometimes modem hardware are now located all on the motherboard) and to keep costs down, are often of poor quality. MOSFET "GregS" wrote in message ... In article , "MOSFET" wrote: My first MM turntable (which happen to be my first turntable ever, I NEVER owned one of those cheapo ceramic cartridge type, you know the type kids and schools owned in the 60-70's') was a VERY old BIC (remember them) I recieved When you talk turntables, you must have a record clamp. Well not really, but the clamp takes away some of the records resonance sitting on the platter. It DOES make a difference. greg |
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