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Hi folks,
I'm in urgent need of a PC for my multi-track recording needs. It's going to be a self-build. For those of you who are fairly up to date with current component offerings, how does the following setup look: ---------------------------------------- Asus A7N8X-X £47 : http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5556.html Crucial PC3200 DIMM 512mb £63.50: http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5232.html AMD Athlon XP2500 £60 http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5623.html Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB ST380013AS £45 from www.dabs.com Quiet case with quiet psu: £80 http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_1210.html -------------------------------------- I could have opted for a 120Gb hard drive for not much more, but I figure that two 80Gb drives (one for backup) would be wiser. Thanks for any comments. I'd also appreciate advice on choosing a CD-writing drive, because I want to burn music CD's that can be played on most home hi-fi systems. Many thanks... Ally |
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PS Help in choosing a soundcard would also be appreciated. I'm on a tight budget, but want to make decent recordings - mostly from mics. I have a decent analog mixer already. I'm told that I need something better than a regular sound card. Thanks again, Ally |
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I have never favored Seagate drives - I like Western Digital better.
Most tech types around here will suggest that for an inexpensive card, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz will do recordings indistinguishable from the best analog source. Mark Z. -- Please reply only to Group. I regret this is necessary. Viruses and spam have rendered my regular e-mail address useless. "Ally" wrote in message ... PS Help in choosing a soundcard would also be appreciated. I'm on a tight budget, but want to make decent recordings - mostly from mics. I have a decent analog mixer already. I'm told that I need something better than a regular sound card. Thanks again, Ally |
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"Ally" wrote in message
Hi folks, I'm in urgent need of a PC for my multi-track recording needs. It's going to be a self-build. For those of you who are fairly up to date with current component offerings, how does the following setup look: ---------------------------------------- Asus A7N8X-X £47 : http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5556.html I'm not a fan of Nvidia chip sets. Gamers like them, but... I've built a number of them and they have been relatively troublesome. Crucial PC3200 DIMM 512mb £63.50: http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5232.html RAM is pretty much RAM particularly at commodity speeds. AMD Athlon XP2500 £60 http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5623.html Been there done that, they work. Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB ST380013AS £45 from www.dabs.com I build mostly machine with WD and Hitachi drives. In the 80 GB range, drives are pretty much drives. They all have disappointing relibaility. For a lot of audio work, two drives are far better than one for performance reasons. Later on you say you're going to use 2. Hold that thought! Quiet case with quiet psu: £80 http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_1210.html -------------------------------------- I have one sitting right here on my desk. It's got an A64-3200 system that I use to mix audio and surf the web. I could have opted for a 120Gb hard drive for not much more, but I figure that two 80Gb drives (one for backup) would be wiser. Thanks for any comments. I'd also appreciate advice on choosing a CD-writing drive, because I want to burn music CD's that can be played on most home hi-fi systems. Liteon CD ^ DVD drives are good performers for a good price. At this point you might want to just cut to the chase and go with an 8X DVD burner. |
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PPS I'm wondering now, if a better-than-average soundcard will be necessarey. I just read the motherboarrds description at http://www.asus.com/products/mb/sock...x/overview.htm which says: (Is this mobo OK?) Specs say: The A7N8X uses an onboard Realtek® ALC650 audio CODEC that lets you enjoy high-quality 6-channel audio without having to buy advanced sound cards. (Sounds good!?) Does this board need a graphics card or is graphics cirquit onboard? Spects aren't very clear on that. Thanks again, ALly |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 05:50:52 -0500, "Mark D. Zacharias"
wrote: I have never favored Seagate drives - I like Western Digital better. Most tech types around here will suggest that for an inexpensive card, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz will do recordings indistinguishable from the best analog source. Hi Mark, Thanks for the suggestion. I was hoping not to have to pay such a high price. Budget is pretty tight... But I'd pay the price, if I could only convince myself of the need to... Comments welcome.. Ally |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 07:11:17 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "Ally" wrote in message Hi folks, I'm in urgent need of a PC for my multi-track recording needs. It's going to be a self-build. For those of you who are fairly up to date with current component offerings, how does the following setup look: ---------------------------------------- Asus A7N8X-X £47 : http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5556.html I'm not a fan of Nvidia chip sets. Gamers like them, but... I've built a number of them and they have been relatively troublesome. Arny, Good Sunday morning! Thank you for the input. How about one of these (especially the cheap EpOX one?) Failing that, there are dozens at the URL below, all at fair prices (for the UK, at least!) (it's a lo-o-o-ng URL!) I like the idea of one that takes a money-saving AMD cpu (now that you say they work ok): http://www.dabs.com/uk/templates/Cha...uest&catid=192 Crucial PC3200 DIMM 512mb £63.50: http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5232.html RAM is pretty much RAM particularly at commodity speeds. AMD Athlon XP2500 £60 http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5623.html Been there done that, they work. Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB ST380013AS £45 from www.dabs.com I build mostly machine with WD and Hitachi drives. In the 80 GB range, drives are pretty much drives. They all have disappointing relibaility. For a lot of audio work, two drives are far better than one for performance reasons. Later on you say you're going to use 2. Hold that thought! Someone told me that WD drives were quite noisy compared to Seagate these days... Quiet case with quiet psu: £80 http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_1210.html -------------------------------------- I have one sitting right here on my desk. It's got an A64-3200 system that I use to mix audio and surf the web. Wow - that's a coincidence. How do you like it? Is it quiet like the suppliers claim? I could have opted for a 120Gb hard drive for not much more, but I figure that two 80Gb drives (one for backup) would be wiser. Thanks for any comments. I'd also appreciate advice on choosing a CD-writing drive, because I want to burn music CD's that can be played on most home hi-fi systems. Liteon CD ^ DVD drives are good performers for a good price. At this point you might want to just cut to the chase and go with an 8X DVD burner. Thanks... are the different brands all much the same as far as reliability, performance, etc., then? Thanks agin, Arny.. Ally |
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AMD Athlon XP2500 PS... can I get away with a fanless heat sink for this cpu? Anyone recomment a low-cost one? I was looking at one at: http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_2649.html Cheers, Ally |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 05:50:52 -0500, "Mark D. Zacharias"
wrote: Most tech types around here will suggest that for an inexpensive card, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz will do recordings indistinguishable from the best analog source. That's fine if you use your computer as a straightforward substitute for an analogue recording system. But if you're at all involved with the possibilities for sound creation WITHIN the computer - midi-controlled software synthesisers and samplers - a more modern card with low-latency ASIO drivers is desirable. If you want, for instance, a good acoustic piano sound, the BEST solution is of course a full-size Steinway grand, in a good-sounding room, with carefully-chosen, high-quality microphones.....etc. But a software imitation, like Steinberg's The Grand, is MUCH better than any live recording most of us can practically achieve ;-) |
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"Ally" wrote in message
Arny, Good Sunday morning! Thank you for the input. How about one of these (especially the cheap EpOX one?) Asus is IME a good idea. I've had no problems with recent VIA chipset models - A7V8X Failing that, there are dozens at the URL below, all at fair prices (for the UK, at least!) (it's a lo-o-o-ng URL!) I like the idea of one that takes a money-saving AMD cpu (now that you say they work ok): Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB ST380013AS £45 from www.dabs.com I build mostly machine with WD and Hitachi drives. In the 80 GB range, drives are pretty much drives. They all have disappointing relibaility. For a lot of audio work, two drives are far better than one for performance reasons. Later on you say you're going to use 2. Hold that thought! Someone told me that WD drives were quite noisy compared to Seagate these days... Horsefeathers. Quiet case with quiet psu: £80 http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_1210.html -------------------------------------- I have one sitting right here on my desk. It's got an A64-3200 system that I use to mix audio and surf the web. Wow - that's a coincidence. How do you like it? Is it quiet like the suppliers claim? Yes. The CPU fan was the major source of noise, but all I had to do is slow it down with a Zalman Fanmate, while keeping a close eye on CPU chip temperature. IME fans can be often slowed down a lot, before CPU chip temp rises more than a few degrees. Liteon CD ^ DVD drives are good performers for a good price. At this point you might want to just cut to the chase and go with an 8X DVD burner. Thanks... are the different brands all much the same as far as reliability, performance, etc., then? Not at all. I've tried some off-brand drives and they ran at somthing like half the speed of the Liteon, Yamaha and Sony drives I compared them to, despite being rated at the same speed. |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:59:20 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: Thanks... are the different brands all much the same as far as reliability, performance, etc., then? Not at all. I've tried some off-brand drives and they ran at somthing like half the speed of the Liteon, Yamaha and Sony drives I compared them to, despite being rated at the same speed. Do you mean when set to, say 8X, some brands took longer than others to burn the same data? Or that the (IMO useless) maximum speed figures were fanciful? |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:59:20 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "Ally" wrote in message Arny, Good Sunday morning! Thank you for the input. How about one of these (especially the cheap EpOX one?) Asus is IME a good idea. I've had no problems with recent VIA chipset models - A7V8X Wow - and thats much cheaper than the A7n8x!!! (like £27 against £47! How come?! If you don't believe me, see: http://www.planetmicro.co.uk/product...&source=kelkoo The CPU fan was the major source of noise, but all I had to do is slow it down with a Zalman Fanmate, while keeping a close eye on CPU chip temperature. IME fans can be often slowed down a lot, before CPU chip temp rises more than a few degrees. I should imagine that the biggest heatsink you can find, with the most and biggest fins must make all the difference, yes? Then, the fan should need to come on even less, yes? (assuming the fan is controlled by some heat-sensing device). I would have thought that with a big enough heat sink, a fan could be avoided altogether, but I'll go along with your greater experience on such things... But, actually, cpu fans hardly make any noise when they are in good shape. It's the PSU fans that make most of the noise, yes? Ally |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:59:20 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "Ally" wrote in message Arny, Good Sunday morning! Thank you for the input. How about one of these (especially the cheap EpOX one?) Asus is IME a good idea. I've had no problems with recent VIA chipset models - A7V8X Failing that, there are dozens at the URL below, all at fair prices (for the UK, at least!) (it's a lo-o-o-ng URL!) I like the idea of one that takes a money-saving AMD cpu (now that you say they work ok): Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB ST380013AS £45 from www.dabs.com I build mostly machine with WD and Hitachi drives. In the 80 GB range, drives are pretty much drives. They all have disappointing relibaility. For a lot of audio work, two drives are far better than one for performance reasons. Later on you say you're going to use 2. Hold that thought! Someone told me that WD drives were quite noisy compared to Seagate these days... Horsefeathers. L, I found a 120GB HITACHI 7K250 8MB CACHE 7200RPM IDE HDD for a low price (the cheapest supplier of the mobo you recommended). What kind of graphics card do I need (I don't play games but I might want to play a movie or two at some stage). Thers a bunch of them offered by the same supplier. Here are the cheaper offerings: hehttp://www.planetmicro.co.uk/results...low&image s=1 Do you reckon I should buy Windows XP, OEM, while I'm buying the components? It's cheaper than the upgrade, which I'd also qualify for, being a Win98SE user. Which of these CD writers would you pick? I guess if one has decent software included it would be good: http://www.planetmicro.co.uk/results...iters&images=1 Regards RAM, Will 512MB PC2700 333 DDR DIMM MEMORY, OEM do, or is it better to pay twice as much and get PC3200? (The budget is tight..) Are there any of these components/OS that I should NOT buy the OEM versions of? One more thing: do Hard drives, floppy drives and CD drives usually come with all the necessary cables? I was lucky to find this supplier. Prices look excellent. (eg., tower case with PSU for £17!) Thanks again. If you can endorse my choices, or suggest improvements, I'll place the order... Thanks... Ally |
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"Laurence Payne" wrote in
message On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:59:20 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: Thanks... are the different brands all much the same as far as reliability, performance, etc., then? Not at all. I've tried some off-brand drives and they ran at somthing like half the speed of the Liteon, Yamaha and Sony drives I compared them to, despite being rated at the same speed. Do you mean when set to, say 8X, some brands took longer than others to burn the same data? I don't know. Or that the (IMO useless) maximum speed figures were fanciful? Yes. For example, I did max speed burns on indentical media in 2 identical computers using a cheap 52X drive in one and a Sony 52x in the other. The Sony finished in half the time. |
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"Ally" wrote in message
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:59:20 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Ally" wrote in message Arny, Good Sunday morning! Thank you for the input. How about one of these (especially the cheap EpOX one?) Asus is IME a good idea. I've had no problems with recent VIA chipset models - A7V8X Wow - and thats much cheaper than the A7n8x!!! (like £27 against £47! How come?! If you don't believe me, see: http://www.planetmicro.co.uk/product...&source=kelkoo The CPU fan was the major source of noise, but all I had to do is slow it down with a Zalman Fanmate, while keeping a close eye on CPU chip temperature. IME fans can be often slowed down a lot, before CPU chip temp rises more than a few degrees. I should imagine that the biggest heatsink you can find, with the most and biggest fins must make all the difference, yes? I do a lot of work with the AMD heatsink. Then, the fan should need to come on even less, yes? (assuming the fan is controlled by some heat-sensing device). Well, here's another fact - just because its bigger doesn't mean its better. I would have thought that with a big enough heat sink, a fan could be avoided altogether, but I'll go along with your greater experience on such things... Absolutely no fan is a lot less ventilation than a fan running at half speed. But, actually, cpu fans hardly make any noise when they are in good shape. No, they can be noisy if brand new and spinning fast. 5200 rpm is noisy, no matter how expensive or how good of shape its in. It's the PSU fans that make most of the noise, yes? Well, not with the Antec case we've been discussing. However, guess why the Antec PS is fan is quiet? Big and slow, but you knew that, right? |
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"Ally" wrote in message
L, I found a 120GB HITACHI 7K250 8MB CACHE 7200RPM IDE HDD for a low price (the cheapest supplier of the mobo you recommended). OK. What kind of graphics card do I need (I don't play games but I might want to play a movie or two at some stage). http://www.planetmicro.co.uk/results...low&image s=1 Something cheap and Nvidia. "64MB XFX MX4000 8X AGP DDR TV-OUT (LOW PROFILE" Do you reckon I should buy Windows XP, OEM, while I'm buying the components? It's cheaper than the upgrade, which I'd also qualify for, being a Win98SE user. OEM is fine. Which of these CD writers would you pick? I guess if one has decent software included it would be good: http://www.planetmicro.co.uk/results...iters&images=1 "LITE-ON 52X32X52 IDE CD-RW RETAIL BOX " Regards RAM, Will 512MB PC2700 333 DDR DIMM MEMORY, OEM do, or is it better to pay twice as much and get PC3200? (The budget is tight..) Find out the minimum speed which in this case is I believe 333, and go up one notch to 400 which is PC3200. Usually PC3200 doesn't command more than a few bucks premium. Are there any of these components/OS that I should NOT buy the OEM versions of? No One more thing: do Hard drives, floppy drives and CD drives usually come with all the necessary cables? No, but the MB comes with 1 HD cable and 1 FD cable. You need another HD cable so that the CDROM is on its own cable. Some CDROMs come with IDE cables but IME that is pretty rare. |
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"Ally" wrote in message
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:59:20 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Ally" wrote in message Arny, Good Sunday morning! Thank you for the input. How about one of these (especially the cheap EpOX one?) Asus is IME a good idea. I've had no problems with recent VIA chipset models - A7V8X Arny, I'm a bit concerned about the problems people seem to be having with that mobo. For example, see: http://forums.viaarena.com/messagevi...threadid=53332 Maybe that's why it has been reduced to such a low price some places... I wouldn't mind paying a little more for a mobo with a better track record - and with a simpler BIOS to set up.... I've built a number of systems based on this board and they just worked. |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:59:20 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "Ally" wrote in message Arny, Good Sunday morning! Thank you for the input. How about one of these (especially the cheap EpOX one?) Asus is IME a good idea. I've had no problems with recent VIA chipset models - A7V8X Arny, I'm a bit concerned about the problems people seem to be having with that mobo. For example, see: http://forums.viaarena.com/messagevi...threadid=53332 Maybe that's why it has been reduced to such a low price some places... I wouldn't mind paying a little more for a mobo with a better track record - and with a simpler BIOS to set up.... Ally |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:23:26 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: Do you mean when set to, say 8X, some brands took longer than others to burn the same data? I don't know. Or that the (IMO useless) maximum speed figures were fanciful? Yes. For example, I did max speed burns on indentical media in 2 identical computers using a cheap 52X drive in one and a Sony 52x in the other. The Sony finished in half the time. Ah. Mildly interesting. But how reliable each drive was at its optimum burning speed for a particular media would be way more interesting. Have you any reason to believe the cheaper drive burnt an inferior CD at, say, 8X? I'm looking for reasons I DIDN'T waste money buying Plextor :-) |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:04:46 +0100, Laurence Payne
wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:06:17 GMT, (Ally) wrote: AMD Athlon XP2500 PS... can I get away with a fanless heat sink for this cpu? Anyone recomment a low-cost one? NO. One place NOT to stint is on an Athlon cooling system. Particularly on a machine to be used for audio recording. Office applications spend most of their time waiting for input. Clever systems of "software cooling" can kick in, reducing the power use of the CPU. Not with recording programs though. The soundcard is constantly "listening", streaming audio into the system, (even if it IS silence:-) No let-up for the CPU. If a system is GOING to overheat, it's a music-recording application that will make it happen. L, Thanks for the info. I would never have known that. I'll get a proper cooling fan+heatsink. Ally |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:42:23 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote: "Ally" wrote in message On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:59:20 -0400, "Arny Krueger" wrote: "Ally" wrote in message Arny, Good Sunday morning! Thank you for the input. How about one of these (especially the cheap EpOX one?) Asus is IME a good idea. I've had no problems with recent VIA chipset models - A7V8X Arny, I'm a bit concerned about the problems people seem to be having with that mobo. For example, see: http://forums.viaarena.com/messagevi...threadid=53332 Maybe that's why it has been reduced to such a low price some places... I wouldn't mind paying a little more for a mobo with a better track record - and with a simpler BIOS to set up.... I've built a number of systems based on this board and they just worked. I believe you. I think most of the returned boards were due to buyer configuration problems. I hope mine is straightforward to set up. I've built two PC's before without any problems (apart from a duff board that I had to send back once (one out of two bad... hmmm, not a good statistic). Ally |
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Ally wrote:
Hi folks, I'm in urgent need of a PC for my multi-track recording needs. It's going to be a self-build. For those of you who are fairly up to date with current component offerings, how does the following setup look: ---------------------------------------- Asus A7N8X-X £47 : http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5556.html Crucial PC3200 DIMM 512mb £63.50: http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5232.html AMD Athlon XP2500 £60 http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5623.html Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB ST380013AS £45 from www.dabs.com Pretty much same as my Studio DAW, which goes reliably, with MOTU interface. You may be einterested in joining the PCDAW yahho email list: |
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Ally wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 05:50:52 -0500, "Mark D. Zacharias" wrote: I have never favored Seagate drives - I like Western Digital better. Most tech types around here will suggest that for an inexpensive card, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz will do recordings indistinguishable from the best analog source. Hi Mark, Thanks for the suggestion. I was hoping not to have to pay such a high price. Budget is pretty tight... But I'd pay the price, if I could only convince myself of the need to... Comments welcome.. High price ?!!! geoff |
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Ally wrote:
PPS I'm wondering now, if a better-than-average soundcard will be necessarey. I just read the motherboarrds description at http://www.asus.com/products/mb/sock...x/overview.htm which says: (Is this mobo OK?) Specs say: The A7N8X uses an onboard Realtek® ALC650 audio CODEC that lets you enjoy high-quality 6-channel audio without having to buy advanced sound cards. (Sounds good!?) Does this board need a graphics card or is graphics cirquit onboard? Spects aren't very clear on that. Forget about on-board audio - DISABLE IT. It invariably low quality. geoff |
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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Ally" wrote in message .... Someone told me that WD drives were quite noisy compared to Seagate these days... Horsefeathers. If I may jump in here... I have have several WD drives ranging from 40 - 160 GB. I like them and have had no problems, but they do make some noise. I have read Seagate spec sheets with very good dB figures, and the cheap Maxtor Fireball 3 is surprisingly quiet (I have one in a Korg D1200 digital recorder). I just tolerate the noise of my WD drives (I can't really hear it over the whine of my ultra-cheap CPU fan), but if you want quiet, you might look into this: http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/zm-2hc2.html Quieting and cooling, seems like a good combination. My experience is that if you keep the hard drive cool, it will last a long time. The CPU fan was the major source of noise, but all I had to do is slow it down with a Zalman Fanmate, while keeping a close eye on CPU chip temperature. IME fans can be often slowed down a lot, before CPU chip temp rises more than a few degrees. This looks like a good way to deal with CPU noise on a new system: http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/axp-3200.html The Zalman heat sinks look good too, and only a little more expensive. -- Phil Nelson |
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 80GB ST380013AS £45 from www.dabs.com I build mostly machine with WD and Hitachi drives. In the 80 GB range, drives are pretty much drives. They all have disappointing relibaility. For a lot of audio work, two drives are far better than one for performance reasons. Later on you say you're going to use 2. Hold that thought! Yea two of anything. Make sure you put them on seperate IDE channels. Personally I find the Seagate 80G to be quiter and more reliable. I haven't been disappointed yet, and I've got six. The only drives I've had fail in the last few years were both WD, that's the reason I don't buy them any more, but YMMV. Liteon CD ^ DVD drives are good performers for a good price. At this point you might want to just cut to the chase and go with an 8X DVD burner. Agreed, but given the cost of CD burners these days, it can be handy having one of each. Any thoughts on whether a CD burned in a DVD drive is as widely readable as one done in a DVD drive? I haven't bothered to test it myself, since I still use the CD burner for that purpose. TonyP. |
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"Laurence Payne" wrote in message ... I'm looking for reasons I DIDN'T waste money buying Plextor :-) Easy, buy a Lite-On and check it with K-Probe. I do have one bitch though, I was getting better burns in my 812S before I upgraded the firmware to USON. Lite-On don't allow you to go back, is there a work around, anybody? (I have the USOJ file, but can't install it) TonyP. |
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Building a PC for home recording (in UK)
"Phil Nelson" wrote in
message I just tolerate the noise of my WD drives (I can't really hear it over the whine of my ultra-cheap CPU fan), but if you want quiet, you might look into this: http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/zm-2hc2.html Quieting and cooling, seems like a good combination. My experience is that if you keep the hard drive cool, it will last a long time. The CPU fan was the major source of noise, but all I had to do is slow it down with a Zalman Fanmate, while keeping a close eye on CPU chip temperature. IME fans can be often slowed down a lot, before CPU chip temp rises more than a few degrees. This looks like a good way to deal with CPU noise on a new system: http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/axp-3200.html The Zalman heat sinks look good too, and only a little more expensive. The full-court press quiet PC product of the hour also appears to be from Zallman: http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product...dx=64&code=020 http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20040115/ http://www.quietpcusa.com/acb/showde...ID=121&CATID=9 |
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Building a PC for home recording (in UK)
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:41:33 +1200, "Geoff Wood"
-nospam wrote: Ally wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 05:50:52 -0500, "Mark D. Zacharias" wrote: I have never favored Seagate drives - I like Western Digital better. Most tech types around here will suggest that for an inexpensive card, the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz will do recordings indistinguishable from the best analog source. Hi Mark, Thanks for the suggestion. I was hoping not to have to pay such a high price. Budget is pretty tight... But I'd pay the price, if I could only convince myself of the need to... Comments welcome.. High price ?!!! Geoff - They are expensive here in the UK. I bought a Terratec Phase 22 in the end. (Still awaiting its arrival). Ally |
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Building a PC for home recording (in UK)
Ally wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 12:41:33 +1200, "Geoff Wood" -nospam wrote: Geoff - They are expensive here in the UK. I bought a Terratec Phase 22 in the end. (Still awaiting its arrival). Get one off the internet ! But you've now got something usable anyway... geoff |
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