[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

Boon recommended an Ortofon.

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

Hm. How about under $250?

[Bret L]

On May 21, 12:16*am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

Hm. How about under $250?

Are you even slightly aware of what makes a certaijn cart work with a
certain arm? No, because your IQ is too low. You're an imbecile at
best, bordering on an idiot.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On May 21, 12:39*am, Bret L wrote:
On May 21, 12:16*am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

Hm. How about under $250?

Are you even slightly aware of what makes a certaijn cart work with a
certain arm? No, because your IQ is too low. You're an imbecile at
best, bordering on an idiot.

LOL! Pardon me for asking opinions about audio on an audio opinion
group. I should've posted this, apparently, to a Nazi group. LOL!

Are you referrng to compliance, etc.?

No, Bratzi, you are too ignorant to know how stoopid you appear to
everybody else. Never mind.

[hophead]

In article 9ec62e8d-22f6-4213-8ed3-8595096adf17
@m33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com, says...

Boon recommended an Ortofon.

That was my recommendation, too, but at the time I was thinking of the
2M Red, which is very good at around $100.00.

I see you are willing to spend more than that - perhaps an Ortofon 2M
Blue?

A lot of people seem to love the AT440MLa which would also fit your
budget.

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

I don't have any experience with the Denon Carts. I know the DL103 is
legendary.

If you are considering MC carts, what are you using for a phono stage?

While it's not exactly the same thing, I have a modified Goldring MM
cart on a modified RB250: the cart is sold as the AudioNote IQ 2 and the
arm as the AudioNote Arm 1, with both products rewired and modded by
AudioNote. The synergy is delightful, and I suspect that Goldring carts
in general will work well with Rega tone arms.

[Boon[_2_]]

On May 21, 12:19�pm, hophead wrote:
In article 9ec62e8d-22f6-4213-8ed3-8595096adf17
@m33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com, says...



Boon recommended an Ortofon.

That was my recommendation, too, but at the time I was thinking of the
2M Red, which is very good at around $100.00.

I see you are willing to spend more than that - perhaps an Ortofon 2M
Blue?

A lot of people seem to love the AT440MLa which would also fit your
budget.

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

I don't have any experience with the Denon Carts. I know the DL103 is
legendary.

If you are considering MC carts, what are you using for a phono stage?

While it's not exactly the same thing, I have a modified Goldring MM
cart on a modified RB250: the cart is sold as the AudioNote IQ 2 and the
arm as the AudioNote Arm 1, with both products rewired and modded by
AudioNote. The synergy is delightful, and I suspect that Goldring carts
in general will work well with Rega tone arms.

Goldring does work well with Rega arms. They've always sounded much
better than the Rega carts IMO.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On May 21, 12:19*pm, hophead wrote:
says...

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

I don't have any experience with the Denon Carts. I know the DL103 is
legendary.

If you are considering MC carts, what are you using for a phono stage?

Right now it's just the phono inputs on an Adcom preamp, hence the
high output requrement. I was considering a DL-160, but it looks like
Ortofon is the consensus opinion. I am upgrading the electro-
mechanical aspects of the stereo I have with me. I'll worry about
upgrading the electronics later.

According to Bratzi I'm too stupid to use a step up transformer. I
don't want to disappoint the poor blighted moron.

Besides, I can't solder. I can only glue, nail or rivet.

((I can also screw but I hesitate to mention that. Bratzi will get all
worked up and start some moronic Marilyn Monroe thread. Then he'll
start frantically masturbating and miss work again. Then he'll get
fired. They've already warned him. And I don't want to be responsible
for that. Shhhh!))

[Boon[_2_]]

On May 21, 3:21*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
On May 21, 12:19*pm, hophead wrote:
says...

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

I don't have any experience with the Denon Carts. I know the DL103 is
legendary.

If you are considering MC carts, what are you using for a phono stage?

Right now it's just the phono inputs on an Adcom preamp, hence the
high output requrement. I was considering a DL-160, but it looks like
Ortofon is the consensus opinion. I am upgrading the electro-
mechanical aspects of the stereo I have with me. I'll worry about
upgrading the electronics later.

The DL-160 is a nice cart for a dark-sounding 'tabel like a Technics
SL1200, but it's a bit lively and airy and can be too much of a good
thing on a Rega.

[Boon[_2_]]

On May 21, 12:16�am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

Hm. How about under $250?

Ortofon 2M Blue. It's $199. I've heard it on a couple of Rega arm/
tables now, and it's a great match.

But I must warn you that unless you know how to solder, you don't
deserve it.

[hophead]

In article a3f42557-b91c-4779-a6b0-
,
says...

Ortofon 2M Blue. It's $199. I've heard it on a couple of Rega arm/
tables now, and it's a great match.

This looks like the consensus recommendation - I haven't heard the Blue,
but I know the Red is a great deal and I'd assume the Blue builds on and
improves some of the good things the Red does.


But I must warn you that unless you know how to solder, you don't
deserve it.

Heh...

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On May 21, 12:20*pm, Boon wrote:
On May 21, 12:16 am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

Hm. How about under $250?

Ortofon 2M Blue. It's $199. I've heard it on a couple of Rega arm/
tables now, and it's a great match.

But I must warn you that unless you know how to solder, you don't
deserve it.

Can I rivet instead?

[Boon[_2_]]

On May 21, 3:02*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
On May 21, 12:20*pm, Boon wrote:

On May 21, 12:16 am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

Hm. How about under $250?

Ortofon 2M Blue. It's $199. I've heard it on a couple of Rega arm/
tables now, and it's a great match.

But I must warn you that unless you know how to solder, you don't
deserve it.

Can I rivet instead?

((Riveting has always been for sissies. Anyone can grab a riveting gun
and rivet a feral cat to the hood of a car. Soldering takes a lot more
knowledge, especially when it comes to fusing bone to metal. Boon.))

[Bret L]

On May 21, 4:54*pm, Boon wrote:
On May 21, 3:02*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"



wrote:
On May 21, 12:20*pm, Boon wrote:

On May 21, 12:16 am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

Hm. How about under $250?

Ortofon 2M Blue. It's $199. I've heard it on a couple of Rega arm/
tables now, and it's a great match.

But I must warn you that unless you know how to solder, you don't
deserve it.

Can I rivet instead?

((Riveting has always been for sissies. Anyone can grab a riveting gun
and rivet a feral cat to the hood of a car. Soldering takes a lot more
knowledge, especially when it comes to fusing bone to metal. Boon.))

Doofuses both.

Riveting actually is more of an art than soldering. I mean real
riveting, with a riveter and bucking bars. But it isn't how you join
electrical connections, usually. A cart install usually doesn't
involve soldering anyway, so this is a stupid comment in the first
place.

My point is that there is a purpose to matching carts and arms that
involves the compliance of the cartridge, the mass of the tone arm,
and several other factors. Few seem to know anything about it anymore.
There used to be some good articles on it in hi fi magazines but since
the late 70s it has become a black art. Stereopile and the like do not
like procedure, rigor or science, so you won't find it there.

Vinylsnatch doesn't appear to know anything about it either. But
Arny, for all his faults, probably did if he would deign to share his
knowledge.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On May 21, 5:12*pm, Bret L wrote:
On May 21, 4:54*pm, Boon wrote:

On May 21, 3:02*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
On May 21, 12:20*pm, Boon wrote:

On May 21, 12:16 am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

Hm. How about under $250?

Ortofon 2M Blue. It's $199. I've heard it on a couple of Rega arm/
tables now, and it's a great match.

But I must warn you that unless you know how to solder, you don't
deserve it.

Can I rivet instead?

((Riveting has always been for sissies. Anyone can grab a riveting gun
and rivet a feral cat to the hood of a car. Soldering takes a lot more
knowledge, especially when it comes to fusing bone to metal. Boon.))

*Doofuses both.

*Riveting actually is more of an art than soldering. I mean real
riveting, with a riveter and bucking bars. But it isn't how you join
electrical connections, usually. A cart install usually doesn't
involve soldering anyway, so this is a stupid comment in the first
place.

You are egregiously defective, Bratzi. I would guess mental issues
such as those that you display are beyond the reach of current
treatments.

Wow.

*My point is that there is a purpose to matching carts and arms that
involves the compliance of the cartridge, the mass of the tone arm,
and several other factors. Few seem to know anything about it anymore.
There used to be some good articles on it in hi fi magazines but since
the late 70s it has become a black art. Stereopile and the like do not
like procedure, rigor or science, so you won't find it there.

Oh, kind of like where I answered your inane stoopid comment earlier?

Let's revisit that exchange! LOL!

**********
Are you even slightly aware of what makes a certaijn cart work with a
certain arm? No, because your IQ is too low. You're an imbecile at
best, bordering on an idiot.

LOL! Pardon me for asking opinions about audio on an audio opinion
group. I should've posted this, apparently, to a Nazi group. LOL!

Are you referrng to compliance, etc.?

No, Bratzi, you are too ignorant to know how stoopid you appear to
everybody else. Never mind.
**********

That last comment by me remains incredibly accurate if I do say so
myself. LOL!

*Vinylsnatch doesn't appear to know anything about it either. But
Arny, for all his faults, probably did if he would deign to share his
knowledge.

Now this makes total sense to me. Crazy people worshipping other crazy
people is like a double-negative, and is therefore 'logical' and
'normal'.

[Boon[_2_]]

On May 21, 5:12*pm, Bret L wrote:
On May 21, 4:54*pm, Boon wrote:





On May 21, 3:02*pm, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
On May 21, 12:20*pm, Boon wrote:

On May 21, 12:16 am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

How about a Denon hi-output MC? What other options do you feel works
well with this arm?

Hm. How about under $250?

Ortofon 2M Blue. It's $199. I've heard it on a couple of Rega arm/
tables now, and it's a great match.

But I must warn you that unless you know how to solder, you don't
deserve it.

Can I rivet instead?

((Riveting has always been for sissies. Anyone can grab a riveting gun
and rivet a feral cat to the hood of a car. Soldering takes a lot more
knowledge, especially when it comes to fusing bone to metal. Boon.))

*Doofuses both.

*Riveting actually is more of an art than soldering. I mean real
riveting, with a riveter and bucking bars. But it isn't how you join
electrical connections, usually. A cart install usually doesn't
involve soldering anyway, so this is a stupid comment in the first
place.

No, we're making fun of you, and you're way too stupid (and/or
autistic) to figure it out.


*My point is that there is a purpose to matching carts and arms that
involves the compliance of the cartridge, the mass of the tone arm,
and several other factors. Few seem to know anything about it anymore.
There used to be some good articles on it in hi fi magazines but since
the late 70s it has become a black art. Stereopile and the like do not
like procedure, rigor or science, so you won't find it there.

Yes, that's true. But if you actually had any recent experience with
this, you'd know that just about every modern arm can matched to just
about any modern cartridge. They do that on purpose so that there are
more options to the consumer.


*Vinylsnatch doesn't appear to know anything about it either.

What crap. You know I've mounted more cartridges than you've SEEN.
You're just trolling.

But
Arny, for all his faults, probably did if he would deign to share his
knowledge.-

Which is why he asked for my help--under an alias--via email.

[Boon[_2_]]

On May 21, 12:16�am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

I didn't see where you already noted my opinion. Still, I'm kind of
excited about the match the 2M Blue and 2M Red make with the Rega P2
and P3.

Honestly, I think you'd have to go with a Dynavector 10X5 to make a
significant improvement. (Dynavectors are fantastic matches for Regas,
but they start at almost $400.) I use the Zu Audio DL-103 on my P3-24,
which is a modded Denon, but you need the heavier counterweight to
make it work right...otherwise you'll have the stock weight all the
way to the back of the arm wand.

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On May 21, 12:27*pm, Boon wrote:
On May 21, 12:16 am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

I didn't see where you already noted my opinion. Still, I'm kind of
excited about the match the 2M Blue and 2M Red make with the Rega P2
and P3.

Honestly, I think you'd have to go with a Dynavector 10X5 to make a
significant improvement. (Dynavectors are fantastic matches for Regas,
but they start at almost $400.) I use the Zu Audio DL-103 on my P3-24,
which is a modded Denon, but you need the heavier counterweight to
make it work right...otherwise you'll have the stock weight all the
way to the back of the arm wand.

I think I can use rivets instead of the heavier counterweight.

I'll look into the 2M Blue and report back as soon as I have it
soldered in place.

[Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On May 21, 12:27*pm, Boon wrote:
On May 21, 12:16 am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

I didn't see where you already noted my opinion. Still, I'm kind of
excited about the match the 2M Blue and 2M Red make with the Rega P2
and P3.

Honestly, I think you'd have to go with a Dynavector 10X5 to make a
significant improvement. (Dynavectors are fantastic matches for Regas,
but they start at almost $400.) I use the Zu Audio DL-103 on my P3-24,
which is a modded Denon, but you need the heavier counterweight to
make it work right...otherwise you'll have the stock weight all the
way to the back of the arm wand.

I have a line on a new MC-3 Turbo for less than a 2M Blue. Thoughts?

[hophead]

In article f046e28e-031f-4839-94d2-08532d230259
@m4g2000vbl.googlegroups.com, says...

I have a line on a new MC-3 Turbo for less than a 2M Blue. Thoughts?

Unfortunately, I only have experience with the Ortofon MM carts so I
can't comment. Perhaps Boon has some experience with their MC carts...

[Boon[_2_]]

On May 26, 11:40*pm, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
On May 21, 12:27*pm, Boon wrote:

On May 21, 12:16 am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

I didn't see where you already noted my opinion. Still, I'm kind of
excited about the match the 2M Blue and 2M Red make with the Rega P2
and P3.

Honestly, I think you'd have to go with a Dynavector 10X5 to make a
significant improvement. (Dynavectors are fantastic matches for Regas,
but they start at almost $400.) I use the Zu Audio DL-103 on my P3-24,
which is a modded Denon, but you need the heavier counterweight to
make it work right...otherwise you'll have the stock weight all the
way to the back of the arm wand.

I have a line on a new MC-3 Turbo for less than a 2M Blue. Thoughts?

Sorry...I haven't heard that Ortofon. Then again, I haven't heard a
bad Ortofon other than the OM-5s they put on Rega P1s.

[Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On May 27, 4:40*pm, Boon wrote:
On May 26, 11:40*pm, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"





wrote:
On May 21, 12:27*pm, Boon wrote:

On May 21, 12:16 am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

I didn't see where you already noted my opinion. Still, I'm kind of
excited about the match the 2M Blue and 2M Red make with the Rega P2
and P3.

Honestly, I think you'd have to go with a Dynavector 10X5 to make a
significant improvement. (Dynavectors are fantastic matches for Regas,
but they start at almost $400.) I use the Zu Audio DL-103 on my P3-24,
which is a modded Denon, but you need the heavier counterweight to
make it work right...otherwise you'll have the stock weight all the
way to the back of the arm wand.

I have a line on a new MC-3 Turbo for less than a 2M Blue. Thoughts?

Sorry...I haven't heard that Ortofon. Then again, I haven't heard a
bad Ortofon other than the OM-5s they put on Rega P1s.

The price is right. I think I'll risk it. If the experiment fails I'll
move to a 2M Blue.

[Boon[_2_]]

On May 28, 2:30*am, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote:
On May 27, 4:40*pm, Boon wrote:





On May 26, 11:40*pm, "Shhhh!!!! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
On May 21, 12:27*pm, Boon wrote:

On May 21, 12:16 am, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:
Boon recommended an Ortofon.

I didn't see where you already noted my opinion. Still, I'm kind of
excited about the match the 2M Blue and 2M Red make with the Rega P2
and P3.

Honestly, I think you'd have to go with a Dynavector 10X5 to make a
significant improvement. (Dynavectors are fantastic matches for Regas,
but they start at almost $400.) I use the Zu Audio DL-103 on my P3-24,
which is a modded Denon, but you need the heavier counterweight to
make it work right...otherwise you'll have the stock weight all the
way to the back of the arm wand.

I have a line on a new MC-3 Turbo for less than a 2M Blue. Thoughts?

Sorry...I haven't heard that Ortofon. Then again, I haven't heard a
bad Ortofon other than the OM-5s they put on Rega P1s.

The price is right. I think I'll risk it. If the experiment fails I'll
move to a 2M Blue.

The MC-3 Turbo uses the same body and was developed around the same
time as the X3-MC. I owned the X5-MC for many years and it was a great
cartridge...back in the 80s. My only reservation about the MC-3 Turbo
is that it's an older design. The 2M line is getting almost unanimous
praise among audiophiles right now, and it represents the latest in
Ortofon's R&D. So my gut feeling is that the 2M Blue would be the
better cart, but if you can get a screaming deal on the MC-3 Turbo,
then it will probably be worth it. Some people have reservations about
the FAT cantilever on the Turbo, though, feeling that it may be
borrowed from a much less expensive design.