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On 4/05/2016 12:21 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
The one thing that I loved, and still love, about digital recording is that the low end doesn't get screwed up in the tape machine. "ONE thing"! Hell there are at least a dozen things or more I love about digital recording over analog tape! :-) Trevor. |
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On 5/5/2016 5:11 AM, Trevor wrote:
"ONE thing"! Hell there are at least a dozen things or more I love about digital recording over analog tape! Are any of them making you any money? -- For a good time call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
#83
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Mike Rivers wrote: "On 5/5/2016 5:11 AM, Trevor wrote:
"ONE thing"! Hell there are at least a dozen things or more I love about digital recording over analog tape! Are any of them making you any money? - show quoted text -" Oh Geez.. Flaming the 'format wars' again? |
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Mike Rivers writes:
On 5/5/2016 5:11 AM, Trevor wrote: "ONE thing"! Hell there are at least a dozen things or more I love about digital recording over analog tape! Are any of them making you any money? Good point, but there's another way to look at that one as well -- cost to get in and ongoing costs to maintain and operate. Passable, even very good digital, is now relatively cheap, not to mention several hundred hours of 24 track that can be put on a drive costing much less than half that of 30 minutes of analog 24 track. There are even options to degrade digital so that it sounds like tape. Operation and maintenance... well, that one should be fairly self-evident. However, as always, YMMV. If you can "sell the romance" of fully amortized older gear, by all means, go for it. But for what I do, it's impossible to match the sonic quality I get with digital (which is a cornerstone of what I sell to clients). It'd be even more impossible still to do the kinds of things I can do in post in digital, things I could only dream about back in those days of staring at china marker scribbles on a ribbon of dark plastic parked in a splicing block. Frank Mobile Audio -- |
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theckma-the-reeeeeetard @ dum****s.shortbus.edu wrote in message
... Oh Geez.. Flaming the 'format wars' again? I see you're circling back to your hobbyhorse again; because you're too much of a dumb **** to control your compulsion to flog the rotting corpse. You should really put your hockey helmet on and get back on the short bus, before you hurt yourself by being a moron. HTH. FCKWAFA. YSANFDS? KJFS! |
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On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 7:38:51 AM UTC-4, Frank Stearns wrote:
Mike Rivers writes: On 5/5/2016 5:11 AM, Trevor wrote: "ONE thing"! Hell there are at least a dozen things or more I love about digital recording over analog tape! Are any of them making you any money? Good point, but there's another way to look at that one as well -- cost to get in and ongoing costs to maintain and operate. Passable, even very good digital, is now relatively cheap, not to mention several hundred hours of 24 track that can be put on a drive costing much less than half that of 30 minutes of analog 24 track. There are even options to degrade digital so that it sounds like tape. Operation and maintenance... well, that one should be fairly self-evident. However, as always, YMMV. If you can "sell the romance" of fully amortized older gear, by all means, go for it. But for what I do, it's impossible to match the sonic quality I get with digital (which is a cornerstone of what I sell to clients). It'd be even more impossible still to do the kinds of things I can do in post in digital, things I could only dream about back in those days of staring at china marker scribbles on a ribbon of dark plastic parked in a splicing block. Frank Mobile Audio -- . Note aimed at you, Frank.... Who, or what popular song, ever utilized 24 tracks? I know McCartney returned from the UK to US to gain access to 24 Tracks, for Band On The Run album, but as far as I'm concerned, those additional tracks (greater than 16 in UK) may have never been used in the final "mix". It's why I believe some "alternate" versions can be created from those unused tracks, such as with Fleetwood Mac, even Van Morrison. Why "alternate version" is often used, since there are no real "Takes". As far as analog vs digital recordings? Who cares? It's not like one will be significantly better than the other. Human hearing sucks. OT: Like, what musicians would play electric guitar to a drum machine?... http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abps...lastsummer.mp3 Jack |
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Frank Stearns wrote:
It'd be even more impossible still to do the kinds of things I can do in post in digital, things I could only dream about back in those days of staring at china marker scribbles on a ribbon of dark plastic parked in a splicing block. Whereas I consider the inability to do those things to be an advantage in the analogue world. The two things that are a big win for me in the digital world are the flat and clean low end and the ability to do fine time delays accurately and consistently. I can line up spots with the main pair set wherever I want, rather than having to set the main pair set 33 ms out because that's the amount that sel-sync gets me. Still, being able to say "we can't window edit, you have to get it all right in one take" can be a powerful tool even when it's actually a lie. I'm very happy having both available to me and I'm pleased to switch from one to the other as is appropriate for a given job. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 7:38:51 AM UTC-4, Frank Stearns wrote:
Mike Rivers writes: On 5/5/2016 5:11 AM, Trevor wrote: "ONE thing"! Hell there are at least a dozen things or more I love about digital recording over analog tape! Are any of them making you any money? Good point, but there's another way to look at that one as well -- cost to get in and ongoing costs to maintain and operate. Passable, even very good digital, is now relatively cheap, not to mention several hundred hours of 24 track that can be put on a drive costing much less than half that of 30 minutes of analog 24 track. Which means that anybody with a "bedroom studio" can now compete with you. So digital is wonderful yes, but maybe not so much for your business model. Maybe that was Mike's point? IDK? |
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On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 7:38:51 AM UTC-4, Frank Stearns wrote: Passable, even very good digital, is now relatively cheap, not to mention several hundred hours of 24 track that can be put on a drive costing much less than half that of 30 minutes of analog 24 track. Which means that anybody with a "bedroom studio" can now compete with you. Nahh, not at all. It means that you have to sell yourself based upon your room and your skills, not based upon your equipment. Unfortunately the room is more expensive than ever and the skills aren't getting cheaper to develop either. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On 5/05/2016 8:31 PM, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 5/5/2016 5:11 AM, Trevor wrote: "ONE thing"! Hell there are at least a dozen things or more I love about digital recording over analog tape! Are any of them making you any money? Yep, the HUGE reduction in my costs for a start! :-) Trevor. |
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TheKman quotes self: "Mike Rivers wrote: "On 5/5/2016 5:11 AM, Trevor wrote:
"ONE thing"! Hell there are at least a dozen things or more I love about digital recording over analog tape! Are any of them making you any money? - show quoted text -" Oh Geez.. Flaming the 'format wars' again? " Just to note I *did* specify format wars - not the other kind. The biggest audible difference between analog and digital formats exists between the chair and the controls - nothing to get all upset about! |
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On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 6:32:08 AM UTC-4, wrote:
TheKman quotes self: "Mike Rivers wrote: "On 5/5/2016 5:11 AM, Trevor wrote: "ONE thing"! Hell there are at least a dozen things or more I love about digital recording over analog tape! Are any of them making you any money? - show quoted text -" Oh Geez.. Flaming the 'format wars' again? " Just to note I *did* specify format wars - not the other kind. The biggest audible difference between analog and digital formats exists between the chair and the controls - nothing to get all upset about! I like that! Jack |
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JackA wrote: "- show quoted text -
I like that! Jack " Hey, it needed to be said - and I don't give a crap WHO it angers! |
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Theckmah @ dumm****.shortbus.k12 crapped in message
news:97f1a373-e8a3-49da-873a- Hey, it needed to be said In case there was someone who hadn't noticed that you're a dumb ****\? |
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On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 4:44:11 PM UTC-4, None wrote:
Theckmah @ dumm****.shortbus.k12 crapped in message news:97f1a373-e8a3-49da-873a- Hey, it needed to be said In case there was someone who hadn't noticed that you're a dumb ****\? And this needed to be said - Thank you, Mark (participant) for reconsidering. I value your ability to hear a difference! Jack |
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None wrote:
Theckmah @ dumm****.shortbus.k12 crapped in message news:97f1a373-e8a3-49da-873a- Hey, it needed to be said In case there was someone who hadn't noticed that you're a dumb ****\? " And someone is angered! Clearly this cracker's got something to lose by the exposure of studio trickery to make something sound different. A financial interest. A washed up former industry insider overwhelmed by the fact that DAWs can exist in every other household on a typical block. Otherwise mentioning it wouldn't upset it so much. Come on. Military secrets aren't being exposed here, just bad audio engineering practices! Lighten up, people! |
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BrainDeadRetard @g THECKMAH.dumb****sRthekma.org wrote in message
... None wrote: Theckmah @ dumm****.shortbus.k12 crapped in message news:97f1a373-e8a3-49da-873a- Hey, it needed to be said In case there was someone who hadn't noticed that you're a dumb ****\? " And someone is angered! Clearly this cracker's got something to lose by the exposure of studio trickery to make something sound different. A financial interest. There goes the retarded dumb****, riding that "financial interest" hobbyhorse, as if he's bragging about how little (or nothing) he knows about the recording industry. It's like walking around with a big picket sign saying, "I'm THECKMA! I'm a Dumb****! A washed up former industry insider overwhelmed by the fact that DAWs can exist in every other household on a typical block. No. li'l buddy, I'm not in the recording industry any more because I changed careers to something much, much, more lucrative. I really don't give a **** who has a DAW. I have them for personal use; not professional. I have two. I'm very familiar which how to use them. You have no idea, because you're too retarded. The brain damage has ensured that your IQ will never rise above your shoe size. Where does your fantasy come from, that anyone who understands audio must be evil? Is it because digital audio involves numbers, and you're too brain damaged to understand numbers? Numbers must really scare you, lil buddy. Maybe they remind you of your three years in first grade, or your six years at a two-year junior college. It's very fortunate for you that you found a job with a company who's mission is to hire unemployable retards. But you should stop whinging about management wanting to keep you away from the audio equipment. Not for retards to play with, li'l KKKKKKKKKrissie ........ It was probably a bad idea to tell the boss that you wanted to go into the audio closet to fondle the big knob. Otherwise mentioning it wouldn't upset it so much. Come on. Military secrets aren't being exposed here, just bad audio engineering practices! You have no comprehension of audio engineering practice. You don't have the mental ability to comprehend it, probably because of all the many times you were dropped on your head. You're obviuolsy completely unable to learn evan a tiny speck of information; it would never get past the thick layer of stupid that suyrrounds your entire existens. Lighten up, people! The short bus is here to tale you to retard school. li'l Krissie! Put your hockey helmet on, you stupid dumb****, get on the short bus, and off to your retard job. |
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