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lots of meat
(of course this can consist of chicken, beef, pork, or shrimp).
Who can resist this classic appetizer; or light lunch served with
a fresh salad? Versatility is probably this recipe?s greatest virtue,
as one can use the best part of a prime, rare, yearling, or the
morticians occasional horror: a small miracle stopped short by a
drunk driver, or the innocent victim of a drive-by shooting...

2 cups finely chopped very young human flesh
1 cup shredded cabbage
1 cup bean sprouts
5 sprigs green onion, finely chopped
5 cloves minced garlic
4-6 ounces bamboo shoots
Sherry
chicken broth
oil for deep frying (1 gallon)
Salt
pepper
soy & teriyaki
minced ginger, etc.
1 tablespoon cornstarch dissolved in a little cold water
1 egg beaten

Make the stuffing:
Marinate the flesh in a mixture of soy and teriyaki sauces
then stir fry in hot oil for till brown - about 1 minute, remove.
Stir-fry the vegetables.
Put the meat back into the wok and adjust the seasoning.
De-glaze with sherry, cooking off the alcohol.
Add broth (optional) cook a few more minutes.
Add the cornstarch, cook a few minutes till thick,
then place the stuffing into a colander and cool;
2 hours
Wrap t


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Whole cloves

Place him (or ham) or her in a large glass baking dish, buttocks up.
Tie with butcher string around and across so that he looks like
he?s crawling.
Glaze, then arrange pineapples and secure with cloves.
Bake uncovered in 350° oven till thermometer reaches 160°.



Cajun Babies

Just like crabs or crawfish, babies are boiled alive!
You don?t need silverware, the hot spicy meat comes off in your hands.

6 live babies
1 lb. smoked sausage
4 lemons
whole garlic
2 lb. new potatoes
4 ears corn
1 box salt
crab boil

Bring 3 gallons of water to a boil.
Add sausage, salt, crab boil, lemons and garlic.
Drop potatoes in, boil for 4 minutes.
Corn is added next, boil an additional 11 minutes.
Put the live babies into the boiling water and cover.
Boil till meat comes off easily with a fork.



Oven-Baked Baby-Back Ribs

Beef ribs or pork ribs can be used in this recipe,
and that is exactly what your dinner guests will assume!
An excellent way to expose the uninitiated to this highly misunderstood
yet succulent source of protein.

2 human baby rib racks
3 cups barbecue sauce or honey glaze (see index)
Salt
black pepper
white pepper
paprika

Remove the silverskin by loosening from the edges,
then stripping off.
Season generously, rubbing the mixture into the baby?s flesh.
Place 1 quart water in a baking pan, the meat on a wire rack.
Bake uncovered in 250° oven for 1½ hours.
When brown


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flour in a paper or plastic shopping bag,
drop pieces in a few a time, shake to coat thoroughly,
then deep fry in hot oil (350°) for about 15 minutes.
Drain and place on paper towels.



Miscarriage with Mustard Greens

Why waste it? Otherwise, and in general, use ham or salt pork to season greens.
The technique of smothering greens can be used with many vegetables;
green beans work especially well. Meat is not necessary every day, don?t
be afraid to alter any dish to vegetarian tastes.

1 premature baby, born dead
Large bunch of mustard greens
2 white onions, 1 cup chopped celery
Vegetable oil (or hog fat)
Salt, pepper, garlic, etc.

Lightly brown onions, celery, garlic and meat in large heavy pot.
Add a little water and the greens (which should be thoroughly cleaned and washed).
Smother slowly for at least 2 hours, adding small amounts of water
when it starts to stick.
Stir frequently.
When ready - serve with rice, grilled smoked sausage, green salad, and iced tea.
Coffee and apple pie then brandy.



Maternity Ward Pot Luck Dinner

If you can?t get anything fresh from the hospital, nursery, or morgue;
you can at least get rid of all the leftovers in your refrigerator.

1 - 2 lb


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hi,

correction on this : you state sirius has MLB. that's incorret. MLB
will be on XM starting 2005.


Sirius has MLB, NHL, NFL and soon Howard Stern




SF wrote:
Okay -

Here is what I tell a pitential customer in my shop. Unless you have

a
particular channel you like, buy the service that offers you the best

deal.

XM has the Nascar channel, Sirius has MLB, NHL, NFL and soon Howard

Stern.

XM has more comedy channels. Both has weather and traffic updates,

although
I like XM's better than Sirius.

I have Sirius, because that is who coupled with Kenwood last year!

But now you can have XM with Kenwood, or
Sirius with Alpine. So brand name will not stop you anymore.

Sirius costs more if you buy it month to month. If you choose a plan,

you
get it for about the same cost as XM.

Sirius is supposed to be 100% digital, where XM goes back a fourth

between
Digital and Analoge signals.

I originally got Sirius because the equipment was free with 1 year

service.



--
WDW is a Way of Life
wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,

Good point. Who really knows what methods were used. I do have the

XM
and since I do have some reception glitches I thought that maybe

its XM
but its more than likely that external antenna and wireless
transmission to the FM. I guess I need to break down and do the

direct
connect. The direct connect is very clean when I listen to it in

the
store but what other means are they using? Anyway, I was totally

blown
away.

If anyone is looking for XM, I was in Bestbuy in Colma yesterday

and
they have the Roady 2 on sale for 69.00 after rebate. It's 99.00
before rebates. It expires on 12.25.2004.

Mike


Rick Brandt wrote:
wrote in message
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Hello G Buddies,

Interesting. I did not know that the songs will repeat faster

with
Sirius. That's good to know. Any idea how long you have to

listed
before it repeats?

I would pay particular attention to the part of his post that

went
"I'm
told...". Told by whom? How many weeks of research were

conducted
and what
were the methods used?

When I researched both on the internet I "read" that XM's music

channels are not
totally commercial free. Is that true? There was also mention

of
some
compression or other processing technology that Sirius uses that

produces higher
fidelity audio than XM. Is that true? While I had doubts about

the
veracity of
these claims they were both found in discussions between users

(and
potential
users) of both systems and neither were disputed by anyone in the

XM
camp.

It is very easy to find satisfied users of both and it is rare to

find someone
who has actually had BOTH of them for a long enough period to be

able
to judge
between them. In the end they are both so superior to regular FM

that I would
be surprised that anyone would not be satisfied. I was "leaning"

Sirius and
mostly just liked the available hardware better between the two

when
I was in a
store ready to buy.



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2003-2005 Alpine Ai-NET units marked "XM-Ready" or "SatRadio Ready" will
work with the SIR-ALP1 as will some earlier models, but there are
variations in what the display will read on the earlier units. Some may
display "XM" for Source but will show you the Sirius channel info,
others flash "XM" and then switch to "Sirius" after the HU recognizes
the tuner module. Also, some units you rotate through the Source control
to switch to satellite, others you rotate through the radio Band selection.

If you have questions about specific Alpine HU model compatibility,
Alpine Tech Support should have good data. We can field some of those
questions also - mail to or
- but I would check with Alpine as first choice.

However, I want to repeat that this only works because the SIR-ALP1 was
designed in conjunction with Alpine and made to work with Ai-NET
satellite-ready radios. It is not true that "any direct input" unit will
work. They are very carefully designed to match and work with the
databus protocol of the branded head unit.

JD

wrote:

John Durbin wrote:


Sorry, that is not true... the tuner module and HU must share a


common


databus protocol and cabling for the HU display to show you channel


and


track info, and for the HU to control the channel & category


selection.


The other gent was correct, Alpine units that were designed for XM


will


now work with the Sirius SIR-ALP1 (which we distribute) and the


Kenwood


units that had been 100% Sirius will now work with an XM outboard


tuner


(XM Direct). There are other combinations now available as well...


but


by no means can you say that any radio will work with any satellite
tuner, unless you want to include plug & play satellite receiver


systems


that connect via FM modulation.

JD



I have an Alpine head unit that says XM on it with the SIR-ALP1 tuner
behind it. I get Sirius and the head unit displays the title and
artist. I was told that any head unit that will accept a direct input
will be able to do the same. Although, my audio advisor recommended
that I stick with Alpine because it would work with my existing factory
sound system without any problems.

Bruce






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To the best of my knowledge there is not a Sirius plug-in tuner
available for Pioneer yet. Not sure about whether XM has offered a
Pioneer version of their XM Direct. The plug-in tuner modules typically
connect via the data cable like a CD Changer. Here's some info on the
Alpine unit for reference:
http://www.directed.com/audio/sirius/connect.asp

JD

Sean Scott wrote:

I can't figure out where to plug in the XM tuner, I havn't boughten it
yet but I only see the 3 RCA preouts for amplifiers and teh only other
plug I assumed was for a CD changer is it for XM and I was wrong about
a CD changer?

"John Durbin"
wrote in message ...
ah... no SiriusConnect plug-in tuner for that yet.

JD

Sean Scott wrote:

It is a Pioneer DEH-P8400MP model.

"John Durbin"
wrote in message
...
What brand? If it's an Alpine and says it's XM Ready, you can
also plug in the new SIR-ALP1 Sirius tuner.

JD

Sean Scott wrote:

"Rick Brandt" wrote in message
...


wrote in message
legroups.com...


Hello G Buddies,

Interesting. I did not know that the songs will repeat faster with
Sirius. That's good to know. Any idea how long you have to listed
before it repeats?


I would pay particular attention to the part of his post that went "I'm
told...". Told by whom? How many weeks of research were conducted and
what were the methods used?

When I researched both on the internet I "read" that XM's music channels
are not totally commercial free. Is that true? There was also mention of
some compression or other processing technology that Sirius uses that
produces higher fidelity audio than XM. Is that true? While I had doubts
about the veracity of these claims they were both found in discussions
between users (and potential users) of both systems and neither were
disputed by anyone in the XM camp.

It is very easy to find satisfied users of both and it is rare to find
someone who has actually had BOTH of them for a long enough period to be
able to judge between them. In the end they are both so superior to
regular FM that I would be surprised that anyone would not be satisfied.
I was "leaning" Sirius and mostly just liked the available hardware better
between the two when I was in a store ready to buy.








Im leaning toward XM but mostly only because my HU is XM ready.





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Um, I think he said he had a Pioneer unit.... Ai-NET won't do him any good.

JD

Brandonb wrote:

You are correct on both counts. That plugin is actually an AI-Net
connector jack. There are multiple devices that you can hook up to it,
from EQs to CD-Changers, to XM Tuners. In the case of the XM Tuner, it
has a passthrough so you can daisy-chain another AI-Net device off of it.

HU -- XM Tuner -- CD Changer

Brandonb


Sean Scott wrote:

I can't figure out where to plug in the XM tuner, I havn't boughten
it yet but I only see the 3 RCA preouts for amplifiers and teh only
other plug I assumed was for a CD changer is it for XM and I was
wrong about a CD changer?



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Here's one: http://www.directed.com/audio/sirius/connect.asp

Please note the Sirius device has a passthrough port so you can still
use a changer or iPod adapter etc. with the tuner module. Easier to
install too.

JD

Brandonb wrote:

Well, I've not been able to find a good picture on Alpine's site, so
here's a random ebay auction with a decent picture of the cord needed
to connect the devices. Mind you, the device should come with a cord
so you shouldn't need to buy one separately, but if you buy used you
never know.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5739337097

My Alpine XM tuner came with a cord that easily reaches from the back
of my Chevy Tahoe, snakes around so its hidden, goes up under the dash
and behind the HU with cable to spare. I've often thought about
getting the Alpine 6-disk MP3 CD changer as well and hook it up. Here
is a link to a PDF I found on the XM site about the XM Tuner (watch
for wrap):

http://www.stylestandard.net/oswego/...-t020xm_om.pdf


There is a nice diagram on the second page that shows how it can be
hooked up.

Brandonb


Sean Scott wrote:

"Brandonb" wrote in message
...

You are correct on both counts. That plugin is actually an AI-Net
connector jack. There are multiple devices that you can hook up to
it, from EQs to CD-Changers, to XM Tuners. In the case of the XM
Tuner, it has a passthrough so you can daisy-chain another AI-Net
device off of it.

HU -- XM Tuner -- CD Changer

Brandonb



Yay, because I really wanted a CD changer and wouldnt get XM if that
prevented me from using a changer. It is the little L or P shaped
connector right?

Sean Scott wrote:

I can't figure out where to plug in the XM tuner, I havn't boughten
it yet but I only see the 3 RCA preouts for amplifiers and teh only
other plug I assumed was for a CD changer is it for XM and I was
wrong about a CD changer?





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dude... you just wrote again, "Sirius has MLB"

JD


wrote:

hi,

correction on this : you state sirius has MLB. that's incorret. MLB
will be on XM starting 2005.


Sirius has MLB, NHL, NFL and soon Howard Stern




SF wrote:


Okay -

Here is what I tell a pitential customer in my shop. Unless you have


a


particular channel you like, buy the service that offers you the best


deal.


XM has the Nascar channel, Sirius has MLB, NHL, NFL and soon Howard


Stern.


XM has more comedy channels. Both has weather and traffic updates,


although


I like XM's better than Sirius.

I have Sirius, because that is who coupled with Kenwood last year!

But now you can have XM with Kenwood, or
Sirius with Alpine. So brand name will not stop you anymore.

Sirius costs more if you buy it month to month. If you choose a plan,


you


get it for about the same cost as XM.

Sirius is supposed to be 100% digital, where XM goes back a fourth


between


Digital and Analoge signals.

I originally got Sirius because the equipment was free with 1 year


service.



--
WDW is a Way of Life
wrote in message
groups.com...


Hi,

Good point. Who really knows what methods were used. I do have the


XM


and since I do have some reception glitches I thought that maybe


its XM


but its more than likely that external antenna and wireless
transmission to the FM. I guess I need to break down and do the


direct


connect. The direct connect is very clean when I listen to it in


the


store but what other means are they using? Anyway, I was totally


blown


away.

If anyone is looking for XM, I was in Bestbuy in Colma yesterday


and


they have the Roady 2 on sale for 69.00 after rebate. It's 99.00
before rebates. It expires on 12.25.2004.

Mike


Rick Brandt wrote:


wrote in message
legroups.com...


Hello G Buddies,

Interesting. I did not know that the songs will repeat faster


with


Sirius. That's good to know. Any idea how long you have to


listed


before it repeats?


I would pay particular attention to the part of his post that


went


"I'm


told...". Told by whom? How many weeks of research were


conducted


and what


were the methods used?

When I researched both on the internet I "read" that XM's music


channels are not


totally commercial free. Is that true? There was also mention


of


some


compression or other processing technology that Sirius uses that


produces higher


fidelity audio than XM. Is that true? While I had doubts about


the


veracity of


these claims they were both found in discussions between users


(and


potential


users) of both systems and neither were disputed by anyone in the


XM


camp.


It is very easy to find satisfied users of both and it is rare to


find someone


who has actually had BOTH of them for a long enough period to be


able


to judge


between them. In the end they are both so superior to regular FM


that I would


be surprised that anyone would not be satisfied. I was "leaning"


Sirius and


mostly just liked the available hardware better between the two


when


I was in a


store ready to buy.






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No it will not work very well. The units are optimized for the different
frequencies. Although they will deliver a signal, the quality will be poor.





"jack" wrote in message
...
will a Sirius antenna work with a XM setup (and vice versa) ?

I'm looking at an external antenna when I get set up in about 3 weeks and
want to avid the hassles of dropped signals one gets with an
internal-vehicle antenna..
Thanks



wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi,

Well, I have XM but have looked at the content on both. I think the
music selection is better on Siruis. You can get free access on line
for 3 days on www.xmradio.com and www.sirius.com. Give it a listen.
It's free and you don't need to enter any personal data to get it, just
an amail address. That should help you decide. One user did mention
that Sirius is a better deal because you get free on line access with
a Sirus subscrprtion where XM charges but XM is cheaper. There are no
premium channles that charge extra on Sirisu where there is on XM. I
guess what it really comes down to is content. There similar in a way
but do differ in some areas like music.

Mike







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Try this handy reference for a comparison of Sirius and XM. . .

http://www.xmorsirius.com/

I have had Sirius since July '02 and love it. Wish they would work a bit
harder to decrease the repeat situation.

Here is a good Sirius site, you can judge for yourself:

http://siriusbackstage.com/

Regards,
Wesley Horton




"Sean Scott" Its@secret wrote in message
...
I am wanting to get sattelite radio and don't know which of these two would
be better. I am only interested in the music of the two I do not listen to
sports and news very often so they are not really a factor in my decision.
Just wanted to hear some opinions from people who have tried one or the
other or both.



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Yes Pioneer DEH-P8400MP


"John Durbin" wrote in message
...
Um, I think he said he had a Pioneer unit.... Ai-NET won't do him any
good.

JD

Brandonb wrote:

You are correct on both counts. That plugin is actually an AI-Net
connector jack. There are multiple devices that you can hook up to it,
from EQs to CD-Changers, to XM Tuners. In the case of the XM Tuner, it
has a passthrough so you can daisy-chain another AI-Net device off of it.

HU -- XM Tuner -- CD Changer

Brandonb


Sean Scott wrote:

I can't figure out where to plug in the XM tuner, I havn't boughten it
yet but I only see the 3 RCA preouts for amplifiers and teh only other
plug I assumed was for a CD changer is it for XM and I was wrong about a
CD changer?





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If I were to get Sirius I don't have to go through the HU do I? I could get
Sirius and set it up like the HU wasnt Sattilite ready?

"John Durbin" wrote in message
...
Um, I think he said he had a Pioneer unit.... Ai-NET won't do him any
good.

JD

Brandonb wrote:

You are correct on both counts. That plugin is actually an AI-Net
connector jack. There are multiple devices that you can hook up to it,
from EQs to CD-Changers, to XM Tuners. In the case of the XM Tuner, it
has a passthrough so you can daisy-chain another AI-Net device off of it.

HU -- XM Tuner -- CD Changer

Brandonb


Sean Scott wrote:

I can't figure out where to plug in the XM tuner, I havn't boughten it
yet but I only see the 3 RCA preouts for amplifiers and teh only other
plug I assumed was for a CD changer is it for XM and I was wrong about a
CD changer?





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You have an "audio advisor"?

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You have an "audio advisor"?


That's pretty funny. I suppose he has a therapist of course, and a trainer,
a financial advisor, a tax consultant, and a "lifestyle coordinator". We
have a store called "Audio Advice" here in town, and there is of course the
web site audioadvisor.com.




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Correct... the plug and play models currently on the market allow either
FM modulated or in some cases, direct connection via RCA jack, if your
HU has the capability for an AUX input. The difference is you will hae a
second display/control unit that controls channel selection and displays
channel information rather than it being done through the HU.

Can also have a more permanent install with a 2-piece design where there
is a small display/control unit and a hideaway tuner module, which also
has the options of FM modulation or conneciton to an AUX in via RCA
cable. Probably the second best option after the direct plug-in tuner
module such as SiriusConnect, unless you prefer the transportable type
and plan to use it in other cars or at home.

JD

Sean Scott wrote:

If I were to get Sirius I don't have to go through the HU do I? I could get
Sirius and set it up like the HU wasnt Sattilite ready?

"John Durbin" wrote in message
. ..


Um, I think he said he had a Pioneer unit.... Ai-NET won't do him any
good.

JD

Brandonb wrote:



You are correct on both counts. That plugin is actually an AI-Net
connector jack. There are multiple devices that you can hook up to it,
from EQs to CD-Changers, to XM Tuners. In the case of the XM Tuner, it
has a passthrough so you can daisy-chain another AI-Net device off of it.

HU -- XM Tuner -- CD Changer

Brandonb


Sean Scott wrote:



I can't figure out where to plug in the XM tuner, I havn't boughten it
yet but I only see the 3 RCA preouts for amplifiers and teh only other
plug I assumed was for a CD changer is it for XM and I was wrong about a
CD changer?







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Yeah, I'm dumb. Didn't read far enough down. Not sure where I got Alpine
from.

Brandonb


John Durbin wrote:
Um, I think he said he had a Pioneer unit.... Ai-NET won't do him any good.

JD

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