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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and
do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
they are top notch amps IMHO. Where is he getting his information from?
Does he have any prior first hand experience? Let me guess... he doesn't sell JL, or is recommending something more expensive? Garrett Steve Grauman wrote: I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
I own a 300/4 and it kicks ass. Let me guess, the installer's store didn't
carry JL and wanted you to buy something else. Paul Vina "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Are there ANY honest sales goons in this industry? I am becoming very
jaded / biased, and would like to think there is just a little honesty left in our wonderfull hobby. I dont recall this much dishonesty 10 years ago when I was competing in IASCA events... maybe I was just oblivious to it. Garrett Paul Vina wrote: I own a 300/4 and it kicks ass. Let me guess, the installer's store didn't carry JL and wanted you to buy something else. Paul Vina "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Let me guess, the installer you talked to is a shop that doesn't carry JL
amps. JL amps are nice amps, obviously they aren't quite Butler audio, Zapco competiotion, or Brax but they are nice amps "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
They are suppose to be awesome but, I did indeed have my 300/4 that was bad.
The right channel, front output went bad. 3-4 weeks and $100 later, seems to be good as new. I have another 300/4 that is acting up. I am hoping it is just the wiring. Douglas "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
I do remember a thread about the JL amps a while back about someone
having tons of quality control issues. I think it was 9 months to a year ago. Can't remember who though. Might do a google groups search. Brandonb Steve Grauman wrote: I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Steve Grauman wrote: I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? My first one smoked the first time I cranked it good, however the replacment has been working faithfuly for over 2 years. There's always some percent of bad product that will make it past QC, no matter who makes them. That's where customer support makes the difference. Just make sure that you're dealing with a place that won't give you a hard time if there's a problem with whatever you buy. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Are there ANY honest sales goons in this industry? I was one. Most customers think salespeople are shady because their opinions on good and bad equipment usually comes from experience and not what the his buddies think is best or what they're told is best. I am becoming very jaded / biased, and would like to think there is just a little honesty left in our wonderfull hobby. Somtimes you need to look a little harder, but old fashioned, honest people and shops are still out there. I dont recall this much dishonesty 10 years ago when I was competing in IASCA events... maybe I was just oblivious to it. 10 years ago there was less of a *business* mentality and more of a "just have fun" attitude. Not really any more or less honest, just more fun. Paul Vina |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
If you had the same problem with two amps I'd be looking for a bad speaker
or speaker wiring. I'd bet you have a speaker that's bad or is shorting to ground. Paul Vina "Douglas Conder" wrote in message k.net... They are suppose to be awesome but, I did indeed have my 300/4 that was bad. The right channel, front output went bad. 3-4 weeks and $100 later, seems to be good as new. I have another 300/4 that is acting up. I am hoping it is just the wiring. Douglas "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
I would easily put them in the same league as a Brax or Zapco. Why do you
think they shouldn't be? Don't say "their not as good" either, that's not a real reason. Paul Vina "clibert" wrote in message m... Let me guess, the installer you talked to is a shop that doesn't carry JL amps. JL amps are nice amps, obviously they aren't quite Butler audio, Zapco competiotion, or Brax but they are nice amps "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
2 amps but, in 2 different vehicles. I have not narrowed the latest problem
down yet. May have nothing to do with the amp. The wife calls and says the music shuts off for no reason so, I have to do some inspecting on it. "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:dS6cb.419139$Oz4.211010@rwcrnsc54... If you had the same problem with two amps I'd be looking for a bad speaker or speaker wiring. I'd bet you have a speaker that's bad or is shorting to ground. Paul Vina "Douglas Conder" wrote in message k.net... They are suppose to be awesome but, I did indeed have my 300/4 that was bad. The right channel, front output went bad. 3-4 weeks and $100 later, seems to be good as new. I have another 300/4 that is acting up. I am hoping it is just the wiring. Douglas "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
How loud is the music when it happens? If it's at higher volumes she's
probably bottoming out the speaker which is showing the amp am dead short. Paul Vina "dconder" wrote in message ... 2 amps but, in 2 different vehicles. I have not narrowed the latest problem down yet. May have nothing to do with the amp. The wife calls and says the music shuts off for no reason so, I have to do some inspecting on it. "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:dS6cb.419139$Oz4.211010@rwcrnsc54... If you had the same problem with two amps I'd be looking for a bad speaker or speaker wiring. I'd bet you have a speaker that's bad or is shorting to ground. Paul Vina "Douglas Conder" wrote in message k.net... They are suppose to be awesome but, I did indeed have my 300/4 that was bad. The right channel, front output went bad. 3-4 weeks and $100 later, seems to be good as new. I have another 300/4 that is acting up. I am hoping it is just the wiring. Douglas "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Let me guess... he
doesn't sell JL, or is recommending something more expensive? Technically, he sells everything. While he doesn't keep a back-stock of JL Product, he *can* get them. But yea, he's trying to sell me on a US Amps unit. Either a $900 "standard" amp or a $1,200 tube amp unit. He keeps giving me the speech about how much the tube amp "warms" the sound and makes it so "full". I guess he didn't understand when I told him 6 times I wasn't looking for anything that was going to color or distort the sound. He also wants to sell me a Morel speaker system.... |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
JL amps are nice amps, obviously they aren't quite Butler audio,
Zapco competiotion, or Brax but they are nice amps Other than the fact that a Zapco Competition Series is going to have less distortion than the JL (almost worthless anyway, anything below 0.10% THD is inaudbile to the human ear), what makes any of those amps "better" than the JL? It's amazing how slaes people can go on and on about how their product is the "best", and then never back the statement up with *why* it's the best. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Like I said, if he "can get them" he is not an authorized dealer, he will
try to sell what he has in stock "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... Let me guess... he doesn't sell JL, or is recommending something more expensive? Technically, he sells everything. While he doesn't keep a back-stock of JL Product, he *can* get them. But yea, he's trying to sell me on a US Amps unit. Either a $900 "standard" amp or a $1,200 tube amp unit. He keeps giving me the speech about how much the tube amp "warms" the sound and makes it so "full". I guess he didn't understand when I told him 6 times I wasn't looking for anything that was going to color or distort the sound. He also wants to sell me a Morel speaker system.... |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Well faster slew rate, higher damping factor are the only things I can think
of that can be measured. On the Zapco instruments seem to have more air around them, the soundstage sounds larger and the presentation sounds warmer and more laid back to me (this is my friends Zapco C2K 6.0x hooked up to my system) "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... JL amps are nice amps, obviously they aren't quite Butler audio, Zapco competiotion, or Brax but they are nice amps Other than the fact that a Zapco Competition Series is going to have less distortion than the JL (almost worthless anyway, anything below 0.10% THD is inaudbile to the human ear), what makes any of those amps "better" than the JL? It's amazing how slaes people can go on and on about how their product is the "best", and then never back the statement up with *why* it's the best. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
IMHO US amps are great. If you can hear the difference and feel they
are worth the extra $$$ then by all means go for it. I dont believe they are really tube power amps. They are tube / solid state hybrids. They use 12AX7/AU7/AT7 preamp tubes to color the preamp signal and that colored signal is amplified through a mosfet power stage. Unless US amps makes an EL34 / EL84 power tube based circuit that I am unaware of...? Even if they did use firebottles for the power stage, it would most likely use a solid state rectifier. I am a guitar player, and tubes are vital to the tone equation. I could go into detail but wont bore you any further. IMHO hes a prick for trying to push components onto you that you dont want... **6 TIMES** ??? Tell him to back off and to give you time to use YOUR ears and make YOUR decision. Give him a chance though, listen to the morel speakers and use your ears to form an oppinion and stick to that. IMHO its time for you to go to another shop... but thats MY oppinion :~) Garrett Steve Grauman wrote: Let me guess... he doesn't sell JL, or is recommending something more expensive? Technically, he sells everything. While he doesn't keep a back-stock of JL Product, he *can* get them. But yea, he's trying to sell me on a US Amps unit. Either a $900 "standard" amp or a $1,200 tube amp unit. He keeps giving me the speech about how much the tube amp "warms" the sound and makes it so "full". I guess he didn't understand when I told him 6 times I wasn't looking for anything that was going to color or distort the sound. He also wants to sell me a Morel speaker system.... |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Steve Grauman wrote
Technically, he sells everything. While he doesn't keep a back-stock of JL Product, he *can* get them. But yea, he's trying to sell me on a US Amps unit. Either a $900 "standard" amp or a $1,200 tube amp unit. He keeps giving me the speech about how much the tube amp "warms" the sound and makes it so "full". I guess he didn't understand when I told him 6 times I wasn't looking for anything that was going to color or distort the sound. He also wants to sell me a Morel speaker system.... Tube amplifiers tend to provide to most flawless reproduction of the original signal. He is wrong to say that the tube amp "warms" the sound and makes it "full". More correct would be to say that it does not "cool" the sound or "diminish" it. For the record, the majority of people probably would not be able to tell the difference between a high end transistor based amp and a tube amp if they were wearing a blindfold. For my $2000 ($0.02 isn't enough to get the equipment) a Morel system running off of a tube amp would be orgasmic if installed well. -- Regards, Dan Snooks |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
I checked all the connections and everything looks good so, I am not sure
what it might be. When I first turned on the car, the amp did not come on, then after maybe 10 seconds it came on. I have my Eclipse CD changer hooked up at the amp too and it was off as well. When the amp came on, the changer came on as well. Usually, they both come on as soon as the stereo is on. "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:Ca8cb.419789$Oz4.212895@rwcrnsc54... How loud is the music when it happens? If it's at higher volumes she's probably bottoming out the speaker which is showing the amp am dead short. Paul Vina "dconder" wrote in message ... 2 amps but, in 2 different vehicles. I have not narrowed the latest problem down yet. May have nothing to do with the amp. The wife calls and says the music shuts off for no reason so, I have to do some inspecting on it. "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:dS6cb.419139$Oz4.211010@rwcrnsc54... If you had the same problem with two amps I'd be looking for a bad speaker or speaker wiring. I'd bet you have a speaker that's bad or is shorting to ground. Paul Vina "Douglas Conder" wrote in message k.net... They are suppose to be awesome but, I did indeed have my 300/4 that was bad. The right channel, front output went bad. 3-4 weeks and $100 later, seems to be good as new. I have another 300/4 that is acting up. I am hoping it is just the wiring. Douglas "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
All of the differences you heard could easily be eq'd into a system by a
good tuner. Hell, it could have been the speakers themselves. I've heard Zapco amps and they're really nice but nothing that puts them in a league above anyone else's gear. Hell, I think most amps of good quality are close enough in performance to not worry about it. Paul Vina "clibert" wrote in message ... Well faster slew rate, higher damping factor are the only things I can think of that can be measured. On the Zapco instruments seem to have more air around them, the soundstage sounds larger and the presentation sounds warmer and more laid back to me (this is my friends Zapco C2K 6.0x hooked up to my system) "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... JL amps are nice amps, obviously they aren't quite Butler audio, Zapco competiotion, or Brax but they are nice amps Other than the fact that a Zapco Competition Series is going to have less distortion than the JL (almost worthless anyway, anything below 0.10% THD is inaudbile to the human ear), what makes any of those amps "better" than the JL? It's amazing how slaes people can go on and on about how their product is the "best", and then never back the statement up with *why* it's the best. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
That rules out the amp because the changer showed the same symptoms. Make
sure it's getting a solid +12V on the B+ and the remote lead. Other than that make absolutely sure that you have a good ground. Paul Vina "dconder" wrote in message ... I checked all the connections and everything looks good so, I am not sure what it might be. When I first turned on the car, the amp did not come on, then after maybe 10 seconds it came on. I have my Eclipse CD changer hooked up at the amp too and it was off as well. When the amp came on, the changer came on as well. Usually, they both come on as soon as the stereo is on. "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:Ca8cb.419789$Oz4.212895@rwcrnsc54... How loud is the music when it happens? If it's at higher volumes she's probably bottoming out the speaker which is showing the amp am dead short. Paul Vina "dconder" wrote in message ... 2 amps but, in 2 different vehicles. I have not narrowed the latest problem down yet. May have nothing to do with the amp. The wife calls and says the music shuts off for no reason so, I have to do some inspecting on it. "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:dS6cb.419139$Oz4.211010@rwcrnsc54... If you had the same problem with two amps I'd be looking for a bad speaker or speaker wiring. I'd bet you have a speaker that's bad or is shorting to ground. Paul Vina "Douglas Conder" wrote in message k.net... They are suppose to be awesome but, I did indeed have my 300/4 that was bad. The right channel, front output went bad. 3-4 weeks and $100 later, seems to be good as new. I have another 300/4 that is acting up. I am hoping it is just the wiring. Douglas "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
I dont believe
they are really tube power amps. They are tube / solid state hybrids. You are correct, sir. But they do have that "warm" tube sound to them. IMHO hes a prick for trying to push components onto you that you dont want... It's not even a matter of wanting or not wanting. It's a matter of being able to give me a definitive reason why I should be spending $1,000 + on a US Amp as opposed to $450-600 on a JL Amp. I listened to a system today using PG Titanium series amps powering MB Quart Q series components, and it blew me away! The system sounded incredible, warm without obviously coloring the sound, very rich, and *full* of detail. **6 TIMES** ??? I told him several times that while I don't mind spending extra money to get what I want, what I want is a system that won't color or change the original sound in any way, unless I tell it to! I'm now looking at the 300/4 as well as a couple of PG amps, and Eclipse's PA5442. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
For my $2000 ($0.02 isn't enough to get the equipment) a Morel system
running off of a tube amp would be orgasmic if installed well. I still havn't actually heard any of Morel's speakers. I listened to Focal Utopia's, which sound good, with great detail, but seem a bit to bright. I've heard Dynaudio's speakers are good, I heard an older system of theirs, and liked it somewhat. I heard a system today using MB Quart Q series components and it blew me away. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Steve Grauman wrote
I still havn't actually heard any of Morel's speakers. I listened to Focal Utopia's, which sound good, with great detail, but seem a bit to bright. I've heard Dynaudio's speakers are good, I heard an older system of theirs, and liked it somewhat. I heard a system today using MB Quart Q series components and it blew me away. Steve, I am pretty sure that the problems people have had with JL amps in the past are mostly due to growing pains. The line of amps is very new, and was somewhat rushed onto the market to meet demand. I would trust that by now (a couple of years) the bugs have been worked out and JL is rolling out very impressive hardware ... reliable and powerful. After all, the company would be in sorry shape if they launched a line of amps that consistently kept customers from being able to listen to their great speakers JL, PG, and Eclipse all make decent amps, do you have an opportunity to audition Zapco or McIntosh? -- Regards, Dan Snooks |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
JL, PG, and Eclipse all make decent amps, do you have an opportunity to
audition Zapco or McIntosh? I've heard the JL 300/4 and 2 of PG's Titanium series amps, sadly, I didn't get to hear them drive the same speakers, so it's almost irrelevant. I have not yet been able to demo the Eclipse amp or *anything* by Zapco or McIntosh. The shops that carry Zapco and McIntosh don't ever seem to have any setup for demo use. Regardless of if I'm spending $500 total, or $50,000 total, I don't like the idea of laying out cash for such an important part of the system when I can't demo it first. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
JL, PG, and Eclipse all make decent amps, do you have an opportunity to
audition Zapco or McIntosh? I wouldn't bother with the new McIntosh's. They haven't been the same since Clarion bought the company. Paul Vina |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Paul Vina wrote
I wouldn't bother with the new McIntosh's. They haven't been the same since Clarion bought the company. See, now that is a crying shame, those amps were fabulous ... why do corporate takeovers always screw the end user out of satisfaction? -- Regards, Dan Snooks |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
See, now that is a crying shame, those amps were fabulous ... why do corporate takeovers always screw the end user out of satisfaction? Tell me about it. Clarion did the same thing when they bought Ungo. They used to be fantastic alarms. Sometimes it all about the almighty dollar. Paul Vina |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Hi Steve,
I have the Morel 6.2 system in my truck, (bi)amped with an old (but good) a/d/s/ PH15, with a 642ix, and in my opinion, it's hard to beat the morels. They're definitely on a par with the best of the Dynaudio, and Focal Utopia systems that I've heard (powered by high quality amplification) - certainly better for neutral, power compressionless reproduction than any MB Quart system I've heard. Bottom line, you've got to hear them in the right listening environment. If you're in the SF Bay area, I'll gladly let you take a listen to my set-up. Keith Steve Grauman wrote: Let me guess... he doesn't sell JL, or is recommending something more expensive? Technically, he sells everything. While he doesn't keep a back-stock of JL Product, he *can* get them. But yea, he's trying to sell me on a US Amps unit. Either a $900 "standard" amp or a $1,200 tube amp unit. He keeps giving me the speech about how much the tube amp "warms" the sound and makes it so "full". I guess he didn't understand when I told him 6 times I wasn't looking for anything that was going to color or distort the sound. He also wants to sell me a Morel speaker system.... |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Paul Vina wrote
Tell me about it. Clarion did the same thing when they bought Ungo. They used to be fantastic alarms. Sometimes it all about the almighty dollar. And to think ... Clarion used to crank out some gorgeous equipment of their own (I love the old DRX series of head units) such a pity -- Regards, Dan Snooks |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Turns out it was my fuse holder near the battery. There has been some
arcing at some time and it left a burned, powder spot that was not letting the fuse make good contact. I cleaned it up good and the wife says it had no problems. Thanks for your help. "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:i4rcb.568630$Ho3.104546@sccrnsc03... That rules out the amp because the changer showed the same symptoms. Make sure it's getting a solid +12V on the B+ and the remote lead. Other than that make absolutely sure that you have a good ground. Paul Vina "dconder" wrote in message ... I checked all the connections and everything looks good so, I am not sure what it might be. When I first turned on the car, the amp did not come on, then after maybe 10 seconds it came on. I have my Eclipse CD changer hooked up at the amp too and it was off as well. When the amp came on, the changer came on as well. Usually, they both come on as soon as the stereo is on. "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:Ca8cb.419789$Oz4.212895@rwcrnsc54... How loud is the music when it happens? If it's at higher volumes she's probably bottoming out the speaker which is showing the amp am dead short. Paul Vina "dconder" wrote in message ... 2 amps but, in 2 different vehicles. I have not narrowed the latest problem down yet. May have nothing to do with the amp. The wife calls and says the music shuts off for no reason so, I have to do some inspecting on it. "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:dS6cb.419139$Oz4.211010@rwcrnsc54... If you had the same problem with two amps I'd be looking for a bad speaker or speaker wiring. I'd bet you have a speaker that's bad or is shorting to ground. Paul Vina "Douglas Conder" wrote in message k.net... They are suppose to be awesome but, I did indeed have my 300/4 that was bad. The right channel, front output went bad. 3-4 weeks and $100 later, seems to be good as new. I have another 300/4 that is acting up. I am hoping it is just the wiring. Douglas "Steve Grauman" wrote in message ... I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? |
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My brother still has the Clarion 6770 I bought in 93 or 94. It was part of
the original ProSeries line. That was a great sounding head. Paul Vina "Daniel Snooks" wrote in message .. . Paul Vina wrote Tell me about it. Clarion did the same thing when they bought Ungo. They used to be fantastic alarms. Sometimes it all about the almighty dollar. And to think ... Clarion used to crank out some gorgeous equipment of their own (I love the old DRX series of head units) such a pity -- Regards, Dan Snooks |
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why do
corporate takeovers always screw the end user out of satisfaction? Roackford bought out MB Quart some time ago, and the MB system I heard a couple days ago blew me away. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
If you're in the SF Bay area, I'll gladly let you take a listen to my
set-up. Damnit-all. Where were you when I was living in Danville? LOL. I'm back in Los Angeles now. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
I listened to a Diamond Audio system today, in an installer's Honda Accord, I
didn't like it, at least not enough to spend that kind of money on those speakers. I did like his Xtant amps though. The 300/4 seems like a good amp afterall, and I'll keep it in my list of potentials. My big problem right now is picking a speaker setup, it'll probably be an Alpine Type-X system, MB Quart Q system, Dynaudio system, or Morel system. Unless I hear something I like better. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
"steve" wrote in message ... Steve Grauman wrote: I was told by an installer that JL's amps have a tendancy to die, burnout, and do other bad things. Has anyone had any bad experiances with any of their stuff, especially the 300/4? My first one smoked the first time I cranked it good, however the replacment has been working faithfuly for over 2 years. There's always some percent of bad product that will make it past QC, no matter who makes them. That's where customer support makes the difference. Just make sure that you're dealing with a place that won't give you a hard time if there's a problem with whatever you buy. My 2 JL amps have performed flawlessly(300/2 and 500/1). I have no complaints at all. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Bah, why'd ya go and do that?!
The offer still stands if you make it up this way... keith Steve Grauman wrote: If you're in the SF Bay area, I'll gladly let you take a listen to my set-up. Damnit-all. Where were you when I was living in Danville? LOL. I'm back in Los Angeles now. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Bah, why'd ya go and do that?!
The offer still stands if you make it up this way... keith I'm still in that part of my life where I'm dependant (financially speaking) on my parents. Gotta go where they go. I'd love to demo your setup though, I'm usually in SF twice a year or so (although we've got nothing coming up), I'll drop you a line. |
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JL Audio 300/4 is this a bad amp?
Heck... if you come up, let me know and you can hear my
Dynaudio/McIntosh setup... muffbuster In article , keith wrote: Bah, why'd ya go and do that?! The offer still stands if you make it up this way... keith Steve Grauman wrote: If you're in the SF Bay area, I'll gladly let you take a listen to my set-up. Damnit-all. Where were you when I was living in Danville? LOL. I'm back in Los Angeles now. |
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