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problem with installing a deck in my 2003 cavilar
so i got this 2003 cavilar with an am/fm radio...no cd....no cassette. i wanna put an after market cd player in it. But the guy at the most reputable install shop says the stock am/fm radio is part of the car computer/ecu/brains and it wont work without it. He said that i need a module to replace it, and that costs 400 bucks canadien (250 american) . Other option is to reroute my stock am/fm radio to the trunk, but he says thatll cost me the same as the module. Anyone know if this is true? And if it is true... is his price on the module correct? Can i get one cheaper off of the internet somewhere? anyone got any websites for me ??? i dont wanna spend that much cash for an install. Id be paying around 500 bucks canadien (325 american) for a basic cd install. Any suggestions??? thanks adam |
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problem with installing a deck in my 2003 cavilar
how does a cavilar compare to Chevy's Cavalier?
-- - - skrabble - - www.spitnight.com wrote in message ... so i got this 2003 cavilar with an am/fm radio...no cd....no cassette. i wanna put an after market cd player in it. But the guy at the most reputable install shop says the stock am/fm radio is part of the car computer/ecu/brains and it wont work without it. He said that i need a module to replace it, and that costs 400 bucks canadien (250 american) . Other option is to reroute my stock am/fm radio to the trunk, but he says thatll cost me the same as the module. Anyone know if this is true? And if it is true... is his price on the module correct? Can i get one cheaper off of the internet somewhere? anyone got any websites for me ??? i dont wanna spend that much cash for an install. Id be paying around 500 bucks canadien (325 american) for a basic cd install. Any suggestions??? thanks adam |
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This guy is ripping you off. The harness to relocate the factory deck to the
trunk is $9 -- --------------------------------------------- :-D I just cut the cheese! wrote in message ... so i got this 2003 cavilar with an am/fm radio...no cd....no cassette. i wanna put an after market cd player in it. But the guy at the most reputable install shop says the stock am/fm radio is part of the car computer/ecu/brains and it wont work without it. He said that i need a module to replace it, and that costs 400 bucks canadien (250 american) . Other option is to reroute my stock am/fm radio to the trunk, but he says thatll cost me the same as the module. Anyone know if this is true? And if it is true... is his price on the module correct? Can i get one cheaper off of the internet somewhere? anyone got any websites for me ??? i dont wanna spend that much cash for an install. Id be paying around 500 bucks canadien (325 american) for a basic cd install. Any suggestions??? thanks adam |
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problem with installing a deck in my 2003 cavilar
oops.. don't know what happened there. The harness is $99 CDN at all of my
local stores. -- --------------------------------------------- :-D I just cut the cheese! "Gravity" wrote in message news:... This guy is ripping you off. The harness to relocate the factory deck to the trunk is $9 -- --------------------------------------------- :-D I just cut the cheese! wrote in message ... so i got this 2003 cavilar with an am/fm radio...no cd....no cassette. i wanna put an after market cd player in it. But the guy at the most reputable install shop says the stock am/fm radio is part of the car computer/ecu/brains and it wont work without it. He said that i need a module to replace it, and that costs 400 bucks canadien (250 american) . Other option is to reroute my stock am/fm radio to the trunk, but he says thatll cost me the same as the module. Anyone know if this is true? And if it is true... is his price on the module correct? Can i get one cheaper off of the internet somewhere? anyone got any websites for me ??? i dont wanna spend that much cash for an install. Id be paying around 500 bucks canadien (325 american) for a basic cd install. Any suggestions??? thanks adam |
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problem with installing a deck in my 2003 cavilar
"Daniel Snooks" wrote in message ... Someone with experience should be able to do a reroute install in about 90 - 120 minutes. So at $70/hour, that's ~$130 for the installation. Throw in the kit and add tax you end up with ~$230. This doesn't include the cost of the deck you are installing, but I didn't think your post was including that in the $500 quote. 90-120minutes? Geez, I can do this car (non-relocating) in about 15minutes. If I am relocating, then give me a total of about 45-60minutes. Numbers could probably be lower, but I usually have to answer customer phone calls and customer walk-ins. And I never said that it will mess with your ABS as a fact, those are just rumors I heard. But I don't buy it. |
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problem with installing a deck in my 2003 cavilar
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:39:10 -0400, "Gravity"
wrote: oops.. don't know what happened there. The harness is $99 CDN at all of my local stores. i went to best buy, and they will reloacte my stock deck to the trunk for 80 bucks canadien...so i am quite happy about that!!!!!! now i can get a nice deck |
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problem with installing a deck in my 2003 cavilar
And nice thing about getting it done at BBY is that if something does get
****ed up, they are gonna cover you because they are backed by large insurance companies. Could sometimes be a hassle trying to get them to pay off a claim, but what company is easy doing that? :P One thing I will suggest to you, is read all the fine print, and make sure a check-in and out is completed before you sign anything. Trust me, I work at a BBY install bay and it amazes me at how many times customers do not read anything and just sign a blank invoice. Not that I am shisty or anything, just principle. wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 21:39:10 -0400, "Gravity" wrote: oops.. don't know what happened there. The harness is $99 CDN at all of my local stores. i went to best buy, and they will reloacte my stock deck to the trunk for 80 bucks canadien...so i am quite happy about that!!!!!! now i can get a nice deck |
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username wrote
90-120minutes? Geez, I can do this car (non-relocating) in about 15minutes. If I am relocating, then give me a total of about 45-60minutes. Numbers could probably be lower, but I usually have to answer customer phone calls and customer walk-ins. And I never said that it will mess with your ABS as a fact, those are just rumors I heard. But I don't buy it. 15 minutes? I call bull****. Even once you know exactly how to remove the dash and deck it takes almost 15 minutes to get the factory deck OUT, never mind installing the new deck and putting it back together, so I would say 25 minutes minimum. Maybe you are just smarter then the average bear, but is any shop in the universe going to put down the labour cost of doing a simple deck install at 0.25 hours? Give me a break, and be realistic about what a customer will PAY for in terms of labour, not how long it actually takes to do the work. Also, I did not mean to suggest that you said/believed the ABS rumour, only wanted to let him know that I had heard a different opinion of what could be affected. -- Regards, Dan Snooks |
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And you know what, I am going to bring my camcorder into work today and if I
do a cavalier, I will record it and capture it to the computer so you can watch and see. Better? "Daniel Snooks" wrote in message ... username wrote 90-120minutes? Geez, I can do this car (non-relocating) in about 15minutes. If I am relocating, then give me a total of about 45-60minutes. Numbers could probably be lower, but I usually have to answer customer phone calls and customer walk-ins. And I never said that it will mess with your ABS as a fact, those are just rumors I heard. But I don't buy it. 15 minutes? I call bull****. Even once you know exactly how to remove the dash and deck it takes almost 15 minutes to get the factory deck OUT, never mind installing the new deck and putting it back together, so I would say 25 minutes minimum. Maybe you are just smarter then the average bear, but is any shop in the universe going to put down the labour cost of doing a simple deck install at 0.25 hours? Give me a break, and be realistic about what a customer will PAY for in terms of labour, not how long it actually takes to do the work. Also, I did not mean to suggest that you said/believed the ABS rumour, only wanted to let him know that I had heard a different opinion of what could be affected. -- Regards, Dan Snooks |
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i dunno, its odd, for some reason the stock radio in my 1985 BMW 635csi
caused the spedometer to short circut, removing it solved the problem..... "username" wrote in message et... Well I can honestly say that I have never run into a problem with removing non-RDS radios. When I remove the basic radio systems, there has never been any problems, and I've installed over 100 in the 3 years that modle has be developed. People say your air bags won't deploy, your abs gets ****ed ,yadda yadda yadda. I've never had a single problem, and even one of the cars got totalled and the air bags did deploy as they should. So I think it's just a myth with that. The reason for having the module or reloacting the stock stereo with the RDS radio is to keep certain functions intact. For instance, being able to reset the tire and oil lights (which is done through the factory radio). However, there are secondary alternatives to resetting these which you can find in the owners manual. You do loose the horn honk function when locking your doors with your remote transmitter. And you will lose the door chime function (which is through the factory radio) with both systems. So with your setup, don't be afraid, you are good to go. And I know RDS (Radio Date System) has nothing to do with the cars functions, but radios that have that are the ones that are used to reset the above functions and typically have the most running through them. wrote in message ... so i got this 2003 cavilar with an am/fm radio...no cd....no cassette. i wanna put an after market cd player in it. But the guy at the most reputable install shop says the stock am/fm radio is part of the car computer/ecu/brains and it wont work without it. He said that i need a module to replace it, and that costs 400 bucks canadien (250 american) . Other option is to reroute my stock am/fm radio to the trunk, but he says thatll cost me the same as the module. Anyone know if this is true? And if it is true... is his price on the module correct? Can i get one cheaper off of the internet somewhere? anyone got any websites for me ??? i dont wanna spend that much cash for an install. Id be paying around 500 bucks canadien (325 american) for a basic cd install. Any suggestions??? thanks adam i dunno, its odd, for some reason the stock radio in my 1985 BMW 635csi caused the spedometer to short circut, removing it solved the problem..... "username" wrote in message et... Well I can honestly say that I have never run into a problem with removing non-RDS radios. When I remove the basic radio systems, there has never been any problems, and I've installed over 100 in the 3 years that modle has be developed. People say your air bags won't deploy, your abs gets ****ed ,yadda yadda yadda. I've never had a single problem, and even one of the cars got totalled and the air bags did deploy as they should. So I think it's just a myth with that. The reason for having the module or reloacting the stock stereo with the RDS radio is to keep certain functions intact. For instance, being able to reset the tire and oil lights (which is done through the factory radio). However, there are secondary alternatives to resetting these which you can find in the owners manual. You do loose the horn honk function when locking your doors with your remote transmitter. And you will lose the door chime function (which is through the factory radio) with both systems. So with your setup, don't be afraid, you are good to go. And I know RDS (Radio Date System) has nothing to do with the cars functions, but radios that have that are the ones that are used to reset the above functions and typically have the most running through them. wrote in message ... so i got this 2003 cavilar with an am/fm radio...no cd....no cassette. i wanna put an after market cd player in it. But the guy at the most reputable install shop says the stock am/fm radio is part of the car computer/ecu/brains and it wont work without it. He said that i need a module to replace it, and that costs 400 bucks canadien (250 american) . Other option is to reroute my stock am/fm radio to the trunk, but he says thatll cost me the same as the module. Anyone know if this is true? And if it is true... is his price on the module correct? Can i get one cheaper off of the internet somewhere? anyone got any websites for me ??? i dont wanna spend that much cash for an install. Id be paying around 500 bucks canadien (325 american) for a basic cd install. Any suggestions??? thanks adam |
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username wrote
And you know what, I am going to bring my camcorder into work today and if I do a cavalier, I will record it and capture it to the computer so you can watch and see. Better? Sounds like a great show ... I stand corrected. Right after sending that last reply I wondered if I was getting a little too bitchin' for someone who doesn't install for a living (I know how quickly I can do electrical work compared to people that don't do it day in and day out). I do have a question for you though. Have you ever installed a Rockford Fosgate deck in a Cavy? That was what I put in mine and I had to cut out quite a bit of the plastic bracing in the dash to get it to fit. The deck is VERY deep, I was so surprised at the trouble I was having that I put it beside my Clarion DRX and found it was indeed almost 3/4" deeper. I was using the Metra adapter that gives the DIN on top and the cubby-hole on the bottom. Are there other adapters that put the deck on the bottom (it looked that that would have helped me out, but the adapter only fit in one way). Sorry for shooting off my lip, foot firmly inserted :-/ -- Regards, Dan Snooks |
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Every Metra kit I've ever sold, installed or used on one of my personal
vehicles has allowed the use of the radio's trim ring. The ISO mounts do not have to be used. Paul Vina "username" wrote in message news:12w4b.320238$uu5.65784@sccrnsc04... Depending on what year your vehicle is (2000+), I have only see the kits that have the pocket at the bottom. The metra kit I do not like that much (if we are thinking of the same one) because it is an ISO mount style and not allowing for the factory trim of your radio to be used. I use at my shop an American Internation kit (GMK-420) which allows for the radio's trim ring to be kept on giving a better look. Downside to this kit though is that it sits into the radio cavity more, which would create even more problems for you getting the deck in. As for removing alot of plastic in the radio cavity, I have to do that all the time. Just typical stuff there. Especially when doing Kenwood radios, cause they average almost 8" in depth! BTW, I havn't done any Cavaliers lately at the shop, but still waiting if you want proof. "Daniel Snooks" wrote in message ... username wrote And you know what, I am going to bring my camcorder into work today and if I do a cavalier, I will record it and capture it to the computer so you can watch and see. Better? Sounds like a great show ... I stand corrected. Right after sending that last reply I wondered if I was getting a little too bitchin' for someone who doesn't install for a living (I know how quickly I can do electrical work compared to people that don't do it day in and day out). I do have a question for you though. Have you ever installed a Rockford Fosgate deck in a Cavy? That was what I put in mine and I had to cut out quite a bit of the plastic bracing in the dash to get it to fit. The dec k is VERY deep, I was so surprised at the trouble I was having that I put it beside my Clarion DRX and found it was indeed almost 3/4" deeper. I was using the Metra adapter that gives the DIN on top and the cubby-hole on the bottom. Are there other adapters that put the deck on the bottom (it looked that that would have helped me out, but the adapter only fit in one way). Sorry for shooting off my lip, foot firmly inserted :-/ -- Regards, Dan Snooks |
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I cannot remember the exact model of the kit, but this one did not. It was
the first time I've ever seen it too. Unless it was Scosche, but I don't think it was, believe it was Metra. But I cannot find their website now to find it. "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:gqw4b.317884$Ho3.45621@sccrnsc03... Every Metra kit I've ever sold, installed or used on one of my personal vehicles has allowed the use of the radio's trim ring. The ISO mounts do not have to be used. Paul Vina "username" wrote in message news:12w4b.320238$uu5.65784@sccrnsc04... Depending on what year your vehicle is (2000+), I have only see the kits that have the pocket at the bottom. The metra kit I do not like that much (if we are thinking of the same one) because it is an ISO mount style and not allowing for the factory trim of your radio to be used. I use at my shop an American Internation kit (GMK-420) which allows for the radio's trim ring to be kept on giving a better look. Downside to this kit though is that it sits into the radio cavity more, which would create even more problems for you getting the deck in. As for removing alot of plastic in the radio cavity, I have to do that all the time. Just typical stuff there. Especially when doing Kenwood radios, cause they average almost 8" in depth! BTW, I havn't done any Cavaliers lately at the shop, but still waiting if you want proof. "Daniel Snooks" wrote in message ... username wrote And you know what, I am going to bring my camcorder into work today and if I do a cavalier, I will record it and capture it to the computer so you can watch and see. Better? Sounds like a great show ... I stand corrected. Right after sending that last reply I wondered if I was getting a little too bitchin' for someone who doesn't install for a living (I know how quickly I can do electrical work compared to people that don't do it day in and day out). I do have a question for you though. Have you ever installed a Rockford Fosgate deck in a Cavy? That was what I put in mine and I had to cut out quite a bit of the plastic bracing in the dash to get it to fit. The dec k is VERY deep, I was so surprised at the trouble I was having that I put it beside my Clarion DRX and found it was indeed almost 3/4" deeper. I was using the Metra adapter that gives the DIN on top and the cubby-hole on the bottom. Are there other adapters that put the deck on the bottom (it looked that that would have helped me out, but the adapter only fit in one way). Sorry for shooting off my lip, foot firmly inserted :-/ -- Regards, Dan Snooks |
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Found as soon as I sent the post, the model of the kit was 99-3301 - is an
ISO mount only kit, or was when we first got them, unless they redesigned them now. "username" wrote in message news:tUw4b.317406$o%2.144483@sccrnsc02... I cannot remember the exact model of the kit, but this one did not. It was the first time I've ever seen it too. Unless it was Scosche, but I don't think it was, believe it was Metra. But I cannot find their website now to find it. "Paul Vina" wrote in message news:gqw4b.317884$Ho3.45621@sccrnsc03... Every Metra kit I've ever sold, installed or used on one of my personal vehicles has allowed the use of the radio's trim ring. The ISO mounts do not have to be used. Paul Vina "username" wrote in message news:12w4b.320238$uu5.65784@sccrnsc04... Depending on what year your vehicle is (2000+), I have only see the kits that have the pocket at the bottom. The metra kit I do not like that much (if we are thinking of the same one) because it is an ISO mount style and not allowing for the factory trim of your radio to be used. I use at my shop an American Internation kit (GMK-420) which allows for the radio's trim ring to be kept on giving a better look. Downside to this kit though is that it sits into the radio cavity more, which would create even more problems for you getting the deck in. As for removing alot of plastic in the radio cavity, I have to do that all the time. Just typical stuff there. Especially when doing Kenwood radios, cause they average almost 8" in depth! BTW, I havn't done any Cavaliers lately at the shop, but still waiting if you want proof. "Daniel Snooks" wrote in message ... username wrote And you know what, I am going to bring my camcorder into work today and if I do a cavalier, I will record it and capture it to the computer so you can watch and see. Better? Sounds like a great show ... I stand corrected. Right after sending that last reply I wondered if I was getting a little too bitchin' for someone who doesn't install for a living (I know how quickly I can do electrical work compared to people that don't do it day in and day out). I do have a question for you though. Have you ever installed a Rockford Fosgate deck in a Cavy? That was what I put in mine and I had to cut out quite a bit of the plastic bracing in the dash to get it to fit. The dec k is VERY deep, I was so surprised at the trouble I was having that I put it beside my Clarion DRX and found it was indeed almost 3/4" deeper. I was using the Metra adapter that gives the DIN on top and the cubby-hole on the bottom. Are there other adapters that put the deck on the bottom (it looked that that would have helped me out, but the adapter only fit in one way). Sorry for shooting off my lip, foot firmly inserted :-/ -- Regards, Dan Snooks |
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I use a Quick Cutter from Snap-On, which is basically a mini hand held
hacksaw. As for what to cut, trial and error that you "think" is in the way. "Daniel Snooks" wrote in message ... Paul Vina wrote Every Metra kit I've ever sold, installed or used on one of my personal vehicles has allowed the use of the radio's trim ring. The ISO mounts do not have to be used. Paul Vina I was surprised as well Paul, but this one certainly does not allow the use of the trim. Luckily the deck looks perfectly at home without it. Username, what do you use to clear out the plastic crap that is in the way? A dremel? Made an awful mess off shavings in there. -- Regards, Dan Snooks |
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