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Any recommendations on commercial monitor stands or DIY versions?
It's not something I've really given much thought to till now so if you have any leads I can follow up that would be great thanks. I have a pair of Yorkville YSM1P's that I'd like to get off a table and on to some proper stands. |
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On Mar 8, 5:31 pm, wrote:
Any recommendations on commercial monitor stands or DIY versions? I just stacked up a pile of cinder blocks. Use two blocks per "layer" and stack them crossed for solidity. I think my pair of monitor stands cost me about $10 at Home Depot. And hardly anyone comes in to the room without commenting on them. |
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On Mar 8, 5:43 pm, "Mike Rivers" wrote:
On Mar 8, 5:31 pm, wrote: Any recommendations on commercial monitor stands or DIY versions? I just stacked up a pile of cinder blocks. Use two blocks per "layer" and stack them crossed for solidity. I think my pair of monitor stands cost me about $10 at Home Depot. And hardly anyone comes in to the room without commenting on them. Thanks, that's a good idea. I found this thread that advises against concrete though, or rather advises something he finds better. Perhaps there is a benefit, but how much better would it be I wonder. This thread I found has a guy saying that the metal posts filled with sand are better than concrete: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...dad7457730aef2 This is one of the better solid looking ones I've found so far using this concept: http://www.studiotech.com/products/s...-24/index.html Those filled up with sand seem to be a combination of the concrete idea with the added absorption through the metal resonance. It seems to me the metal wants to resonate and pull the energy away from the monitors and the sand dissipates it. Neat. I will keep researching though. |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in news:1173393805.017369.290360@
8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com: On Mar 8, 5:31 pm, wrote: Any recommendations on commercial monitor stands or DIY versions? I just stacked up a pile of cinder blocks. Use two blocks per "layer" and stack them crossed for solidity. I think my pair of monitor stands cost me about $10 at Home Depot. And hardly anyone comes in to the room without commenting on them. I second that. Large monitors on 1 layer, near fields on a stack 4 high. To avoid the comments I tossed table cloths over the "stands" for the near fields. |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
ps.com... On Mar 8, 5:31 pm, wrote: Any recommendations on commercial monitor stands or DIY versions? I just stacked up a pile of cinder blocks. Use two blocks per "layer" and stack them crossed for solidity. I think my pair of monitor stands cost me about $10 at Home Depot. And hardly anyone comes in to the room without commenting on them. Hhhmmmm . . .that sounds like the marketing department in you talking Mike! What do the people actually say??? (just kidding around! ;-) John L Rice |
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On 8 Mar 2007 14:43:25 -0800, "Mike Rivers"
wrote: I just stacked up a pile of cinder blocks. Use two blocks per "layer" and stack them crossed for solidity. I think my pair of monitor stands cost me about $10 at Home Depot. And hardly anyone comes in to the room without commenting on them. Real street stink comes with another cinder block on top of the speaker. (And the chicks go wild.) Extra points for explaining *why*, to a civilian, in two sentences and with no arm motions and no mention of the sacred sands of Mount Fuji. Much thanks, as always, Chris Hornbeck |
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On Mar 8, 4:31 pm, wrote:
Any recommendations on commercial monitor stands or DIY versions? It's not something I've really given much thought to till now so if you have any leads I can follow up that would be great thanks. I have a pair of Yorkville YSM1P's that I'd like to get off a table and on to some proper stands. With no science behind it other than to avoid sand running all over and the fact that I have my Yamaha Club PA speakers (for rehersal) up on (all of my) cinder blocks, I used 4" PVC pipe filled with concrete (using super-fine audiophile grade sand) with plumbing flanges on the ends mounted to wood bases. Then I painted 'em a sonically neutral shade of yellow. It was cheap, and the time I spent building them allowed me to avoid any actual music production. Right now I am building a 4 x 12 and a 1 x 15 pair of guitar speaker cabs for the increasing number of studio cabs I have around. By the time I die, I will have a stellar set of stuff and hours of unmixed takes. |
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On Mar 8, 11:15 pm, "darrelldklein" wrote:
I used 4" PVC pipe filled with concrete (using super-fine audiophile grade sand) with plumbing flanges on the ends mounted to wood bases. I have found that audiophile-grade sand is becoming harder to obtain since the Sakrete-QuikSet merger. Please tell us where you found it! Then I painted 'em a sonically neutral shade of yellow. But did you take the inductive reactance of Yellow into consideration? Moonlight Mauve will work better in this application. It was cheap, and the time I spent building them allowed me to avoid any actual music production. That, of course, is the ultimate goal! ------------------------------------ Very funny, Darrell. Made my day! |
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On Mar 8, 3:31 pm, wrote:
Any recommendations on commercial monitor stands or DIY versions? It's not something I've really given much thought to till now so if you have any leads I can follow up that would be great thanks. I have a pair of Yorkville YSM1P's that I'd like to get off a table and on to some proper stands. Insto-Speaker Stands: Buy (1) 4x4 x 8' Fence Post at Home Depot (They'll cut it for you free) Tell the cutter guy at Depot to cut it into two pieces 36" or 42" High (your choice of heights) Discard the remaining 12" piece. Cut (2) 14" squares from some 5/8 or 3/4" plywood (These are your bases) Slam (4) long nails into center area of the plywood square, now you've got a base and a support post. Cut (2) more pieces of plywood the exact shape of your speaker base. Slam these puppies onto the top of your support post with 4 more of those long honkin nails. Paint the whole thing black. Let it dry, then glue some very low pile black carpet on the top of the stand... it makes the speaker happy. |
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RDOGuy wrote:
On Mar 8, 11:15 pm, "darrelldklein" wrote: I used 4" PVC pipe filled with concrete (using super-fine audiophile grade sand) with plumbing flanges on the ends mounted to wood bases. I have found that audiophile-grade sand is becoming harder to obtain since the Sakrete-QuikSet merger. Please tell us where you found it! He's probably using some of that cheap Chinese sand :-) Then I painted 'em a sonically neutral shade of yellow. But did you take the inductive reactance of Yellow into consideration? Moonlight Mauve will work better in this application. Sheesh! Only if they're point source monitors :-) The bigger the Tannoy, the darker the color.... |
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On Mar 9, 12:15 am, "darrelldklein" wrote:
I used 4" PVC pipe filled with concrete (using super-fine audiophile grade sand) with plumbing flanges on the ends mounted to wood bases. Some people have recommended lead shot as an alternative to sand. I don't know where to get it (yeah, there's probably a web site somewhere) but I know that I don't want to pay shipping for it. |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
ups.com... Some people have recommended lead shot as an alternative to sand. I don't know where to get it (yeah, there's probably a web site somewhere) but I know that I don't want to pay shipping for it. Go to a tyre center and collect the waisted balance weights. Not eaxactly lead shot but you can fill the pipe with it. Meindert |
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On 9 Mar 2007 04:05:15 -0800, "Mike Rivers"
wrote: On Mar 9, 12:15 am, "darrelldklein" wrote: I used 4" PVC pipe filled with concrete (using super-fine audiophile grade sand) with plumbing flanges on the ends mounted to wood bases. Some people have recommended lead shot as an alternative to sand. I don't know where to get it (yeah, there's probably a web site somewhere) but I know that I don't want to pay shipping for it. Lead shot used to be used for fishing, but it is banned in the UK now (don't know about elsewhere). As for "audiophile grade" sand, what you actually need is the stuff sold for kiddies' play boxes - it is free from cat **** and sterilized, so it won't become an unwelcome part of the house furnishings during a hot summer. d -- Pearce Consulting http://www.pearce.uk.com |
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Don Pearce wrote:
On 9 Mar 2007 04:05:15 -0800, "Mike Rivers" wrote: On Mar 9, 12:15 am, "darrelldklein" wrote: I used 4" PVC pipe filled with concrete (using super-fine audiophile grade sand) with plumbing flanges on the ends mounted to wood bases. Some people have recommended lead shot as an alternative to sand. I don't know where to get it (yeah, there's probably a web site somewhere) but I know that I don't want to pay shipping for it. Lead shot used to be used for fishing, but it is banned in the UK now (don't know about elsewhere). As for "audiophile grade" sand, what you actually need is the stuff sold for kiddies' play boxes - it is free from cat **** and sterilized, so it won't become an unwelcome part of the house furnishings during a hot summer. Make sure that you get sand that has been properly dried. It's important, trust me :-) Don't ask me how I know.... |
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On Mar 9, 6:18 am, (Don Pearce) wrote:
On 9 Mar 2007 04:05:15 -0800, "Mike Rivers" wrote: On Mar 9, 12:15 am, "darrelldklein" wrote: I used 4" PVC pipe filled with concrete (using super-fine audiophile grade sand) with plumbing flanges on the ends mounted to wood bases. Some people have recommended lead shot as an alternative to sand. I don't know where to get it (yeah, there's probably a web site somewhere) but I know that I don't want to pay shipping for it. Lead shot used to be used for fishing, but it is banned in the UK now (don't know about elsewhere). As for "audiophile grade" sand, what you actually need is the stuff sold for kiddies' play boxes - it is free from cat **** and sterilized, so it won't become an unwelcome part of the house furnishings during a hot summer. d -- Pearce Consultinghttp://www.pearce.uk.com Amen to that Don! Although this is a big source of debate in some audiophile circles, I am proud to assert that my studio has been cat-**** free since '93! This is one of the reasons I am suspicious of Monster cable. What part of the Monster is in there? My Ludwig kit has one kick drum with the resonent head mostly cut out. The current studio cat ignores it, but his predecessor believed the pillow inside was placed there for her snoozing pleasure. She is gone, but I left her fur there in place as a keepsake. Kinda like how Norman Bates kept his mom's corpse in the rocking chair only a bit less extreme. Anyway I agree with the essence of what you said: to be audiophile grade (IMO) speaker stand sand should be devoid of all cat-produced artifacts and by products. For the poster who described 4 x 4 wood posts covered in carpet: Studio Cat asked me to build him one like that. Seriously. When I put anything anywhere in the studio, I have to think not *if* the cat will get on top of it, but what will happen *when* the cat gets on top of it. The studio is contiguous to the house, so banning cat was never a serious option. |
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Although this is a big source of debate in some audiophile circles, I am proud to assert that my studio has been cat-**** free since '93! This is one of the reasons I am suspicious of Monster cable. What part of the Monster is in there? My Ludwig kit has one kick drum with the resonent head mostly cut out. The current studio cat ignores it, but his predecessor believed the pillow inside was placed there for her snoozing pleasure. She is gone, but I left her fur there in place as a keepsake. Kinda like how Norman Bates kept his mom's corpse in the rocking chair only a bit less extreme. Anyway I agree with the essence of what you said: to be audiophile grade (IMO) speaker stand sand should be devoid of all cat-produced artifacts and by products. For the poster who described 4 x 4 wood posts covered in carpet: Studio Cat asked me to build him one like that. Seriously. When I put anything anywhere in the studio, I have to think not *if* the cat will get on top of it, but what will happen *when* the cat gets on top of it. The studio is contiguous to the house, so banning cat was never a serious option. Great stuff and sooo true! Marty |
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Mike Rivers wrote:
On Mar 9, 12:15 am, "darrelldklein" wrote: I used 4" PVC pipe filled with concrete (using super-fine audiophile grade sand) with plumbing flanges on the ends mounted to wood bases. Some people have recommended lead shot as an alternative to sand. I don't know where to get it (yeah, there's probably a web site somewhere) but I know that I don't want to pay shipping for it. Gun shop on Bonifant street in Rockville, two doors down from the Mandalay. Eat at the Mandalay, go get a couple bags of lead shot. Depleted uranium is a little bit better than lead, and lead discs are better than lead shot because it packs more densely. But shot is a lot denser than sand. The food at the Mandalay is some of the best I have ever eaten, and you should eat there constantly. Every day if possible. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Don Pearce wrote:
Lead shot used to be used for fishing, but it is banned in the UK now (don't know about elsewhere). As for "audiophile grade" sand, what you actually need is the stuff sold for kiddies' play boxes - it is free from cat **** and sterilized, so it won't become an unwelcome part of the house furnishings during a hot summer. When I was a kid, we had pumas in the sandbox. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Mar 9, 6:57 am, "darrelldklein" wrote:
This is one of the reasons I am suspicious of Monster cable. What part of the Monster is in there? Hehehe. They could tell you, but then they'd stop making so much money! The current studio cat ignores it, but his predecessor believed the pillow inside was placed there for her snoozing pleasure. You say this as if the cat's reality was somehow different than... you know... ACTUAL reality. She is gone, but I left her fur there in place as a keepsake. We people leave our accomplishments toward the benefit of the human race - and our children - as legacies. But these are just transient. Cat fur lasts forever. Kinda like how Norman Bates kept his mom's corpse in the rocking chair only a bit less extreme. I don't know. For a number of years, my ex collected cat hair from the furniture and kept it in a baggie. Said she was going to have it made into yarn so she could knit a sweater. Wasn't the reason I divorced her... but perhaps it should have been. Seriously. When I put anything anywhere in the studio, I have to think not *if* the cat will get on top of it, but what will happen *when* the cat gets on top of it. Hey... if the cat learned to mix, maybe (s)he could catch up on your work while you're building those new carpet-covered monitor stands! Tried to teach mine, but they kept stealing the trackballs out of the mice to play with them... and then they'd lose the trackballs under the refrigerator. So I got optical mice... but they ate those. Well... I'm off to Home Depot for some cinder blocks. |
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:00:28 -0500, Scott Dorsey wrote:
When I was a kid, we had pumas in the sandbox. You're younger than I thought you were. We had PF Flyers. g |
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Agent 86 wrote: On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:00:28 -0500, Scott Dorsey wrote: When I was a kid, we had pumas in the sandbox. You're younger than I thought you were. We had PF Flyers. g I want to know whose idea sandboxes were. Obviously not a cat owner. -Jay -- x------- Jay Kadis ------- x ---- Jay's Attic Studio ----x x Lecturer, Audio Engineer x Dexter Records x x CCRMA, Stanford University x http://www.offbeats.com/ x x---------- http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jay/ ------------x |
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Agent 86 wrote: On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:00:28 -0500, Scott Dorsey wrote: When I was a kid, we had pumas in the sandbox. You're younger than I thought you were. We had PF Flyers. g And Red Ball Jets. David Correia www.Celebrationsound.com |
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