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2 ohm SVC sub?
I was wondering if there is such a thing as a SVC 2 ohm sub? I've been
looking but haven't seen any. can you list brands who make them (if they are made that is) in a 12"? just wondering since they make DVC subs that are 2 ohms for each coil that it would be logical that they make a SVC 2 ohm sub. looking for a sub that will handle a recommended RMS of 350-400 watts. thanks! -Nick |
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2 ohm SVC sub?
Why not get a dual 4 ohm and wire it in parallel. That will give you 2 ohm
total. A good one to go with if you are looking to keep a decent budget would be an Alpine SWR-1242D 12" Dual 4 ohm 500w rms ($139 shipped). Also the SWS-1242D 12" dual 4 ohm 300w rms ($115 shipped). Pioneer makes several in that range listed, TS-W126DVC 500w rms ($82 shipped), TS-W306DVC 400w rms ($86 shipped). All of the prices I listed are from ebay, and that is where I will always buy my speakers. They dont come with manufacturers warranty, but if you are not stupid with the gains on your amp, you will never blow one. Just my thoughs. That is not the only ones listed on ebay with those specs, but those are the main few I would look at if I were you. -- - AUSTIN BECKER "Nick Vital" wrote in message news:7fXqf.41418$ih5.36080@dukeread11... I was wondering if there is such a thing as a SVC 2 ohm sub? I've been looking but haven't seen any. can you list brands who make them (if they are made that is) in a 12"? just wondering since they make DVC subs that are 2 ohms for each coil that it would be logical that they make a SVC 2 ohm sub. looking for a sub that will handle a recommended RMS of 350-400 watts. thanks! -Nick |
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2 ohm SVC sub?
"Austin Becker" wrote in message news:WdYqf.428798$084.353553@attbi_s22... Why not get a dual 4 ohm and wire it in parallel. That will give you 2 ohm total. A good one to go with if you are looking to keep a decent budget would be an Alpine SWR-1242D 12" Dual 4 ohm 500w rms ($139 shipped). Also the SWS-1242D 12" dual 4 ohm 300w rms ($115 shipped). Pioneer makes several in that range listed, TS-W126DVC 500w rms ($82 shipped), TS-W306DVC 400w rms ($86 shipped). All of the prices I listed are from ebay, and that is where I will always buy my speakers. They dont come with manufacturers warranty, but if you are not stupid with the gains on your amp, you will never blow one. Just my thoughs. That is not the only ones listed on ebay with those specs, but those are the main few I would look at if I were you. well I just figured it would be pretty easy to set up a single 2 ohm coil as opposed to a 2 ohm. I see that JBL is oen of the only ones that makes a 2 ohm SVC sub. what are the advantages of having 2 voice coils over 1 voice coil?. does it matter that I have a class D mono amp? sorry never wired a dual voice coil before thas why I figured I'd just go with a single |
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2 ohm SVC sub?
Well I dont really know of any advantages anymore. No, it does not matter
that you have a class D amp, that is good I think. They don't dissipate as much heat as any other common amps. wiring up a dual voice coil sub is very easy to do. Here is a link to Rockford Fosgates website that shows how to wire different configurations, and it shows what impedance you will be running for each combination. You just put in how many woofers you have, and their voice coil configuration, and it will tell you your available options and show you how to wire it. http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/wiringwizard.asp Anyhow, about the dual voice coil over single voice coil advantages... here is a website that talks a little bit about it... http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/IS...int=1&page=all I hope this was helpful. P.S. Do not be intimidated by speaer wiring, as it is the most basic form of wiring. Network wiring, and aircraft wiring (this is what I do for a living) is much more difficult. -- - AUSTIN BECKER |
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2 ohm SVC sub?
"Austin Becker" wrote in message news:WdYqf.428798$084.353553@attbi_s22... Why not get a dual 4 ohm and wire it in parallel. That will give you 2 ohm total. A good one to go with if you are looking to keep a decent budget would be an Alpine SWR-1242D 12" Dual 4 ohm 500w rms ($139 shipped). Also the SWS-1242D 12" dual 4 ohm 300w rms ($115 shipped). Pioneer makes several in that range listed, TS-W126DVC 500w rms ($82 shipped), TS-W306DVC 400w rms ($86 shipped). All of the prices I listed are from ebay, and that is where I will always buy my speakers. They dont come with manufacturers warranty, but if you are not stupid with the gains on your amp, you will never blow one. Just my thoughs. That is not the only ones listed on ebay with those specs, but those are the main few I would look at if I were you. after reading your post I did some reading on DVC and it seems pretty simple to wire it parallel. wiring my pioneer Class D mono amp to a 2 ohm load should put me about 360 watts. I'm looking for a good SQ sub. (I listen to just about everything if tht helps, I'd probably say more rock than rap, but I have pretty varied tastes). Just want something clean that will fit in my existing box (I wanna say the box is somewhere around 1.50 cubic feet, but not entirely sure, the diminstions are 14" H x 19" W x 19 deep (bottom) x 14" deep (top) (it's a sealed, angled box) how do I calculate that (I tried to find a calculator on-line but it dind't have any for an angled box, only square ones) thanks |
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2 ohm SVC sub?
assuming your box is using 3/4 mdf, then you would be sitting right at 1.9
cubic feet. there's a program (crappy) that has a calculator in it called blaubox. it can tell you what your volume is. anyhow, most subs in a sealed enclosure do not really reccoment much more than 1.5 for low end subs. You could use your box, but it may not be the best for which sub you get. -- - AUSTIN BECKER "Dr Nick" wrote in message news:3N_qf.11039$9G.7789@dukeread10... "Austin Becker" wrote in message news:WdYqf.428798$084.353553@attbi_s22... Why not get a dual 4 ohm and wire it in parallel. That will give you 2 ohm total. A good one to go with if you are looking to keep a decent budget would be an Alpine SWR-1242D 12" Dual 4 ohm 500w rms ($139 shipped). Also the SWS-1242D 12" dual 4 ohm 300w rms ($115 shipped). Pioneer makes several in that range listed, TS-W126DVC 500w rms ($82 shipped), TS-W306DVC 400w rms ($86 shipped). All of the prices I listed are from ebay, and that is where I will always buy my speakers. They dont come with manufacturers warranty, but if you are not stupid with the gains on your amp, you will never blow one. Just my thoughs. That is not the only ones listed on ebay with those specs, but those are the main few I would look at if I were you. after reading your post I did some reading on DVC and it seems pretty simple to wire it parallel. wiring my pioneer Class D mono amp to a 2 ohm load should put me about 360 watts. I'm looking for a good SQ sub. (I listen to just about everything if tht helps, I'd probably say more rock than rap, but I have pretty varied tastes). Just want something clean that will fit in my existing box (I wanna say the box is somewhere around 1.50 cubic feet, but not entirely sure, the diminstions are 14" H x 19" W x 19 deep (bottom) x 14" deep (top) (it's a sealed, angled box) how do I calculate that (I tried to find a calculator on-line but it dind't have any for an angled box, only square ones) thanks |
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2 ohm SVC sub?
"Austin Becker" wrote in message news:Oe%qf.643981$x96.280638@attbi_s72... assuming your box is using 3/4 mdf, then you would be sitting right at 1.9 cubic feet. there's a program (crappy) that has a calculator in it called blaubox. it can tell you what your volume is. anyhow, most subs in a sealed enclosure do not really reccoment much more than 1.5 for low end subs. You could use your box, but it may not be the best for which sub you get. thanks, now when they say the size of enclosure, is that taking into account the displacement of the subwoofer? I remember when I bought this sub, i bought a box made for the size of it (which I believe was 1.0 to 1.75 CU ft.) 1.9 seems high, but who knows, mabye it is that big. thanks for all the help! -Nick |
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2 ohm SVC sub?
No, that does not take into account the displacement of the subwoofer.
Subwoofers typically have a very small displacement. Here's a link to a "subwoofer primer" that talks a bit about it. There is a table in the middle that looks like this. 8 inch .03 ft3 10 inch .05 ft3 12 inch .07 ft3 15 inch .10 ft3 That is a rough overview of what average subs displace. Unless of course you are using competition subs with large frames and massive magnets. Otherwise, it should be no worry. -- - AUSTIN BECKER "Dr Nick" wrote in message news:0E%qf.11040$9G.6225@dukeread10... "Austin Becker" wrote in message news:Oe%qf.643981$x96.280638@attbi_s72... assuming your box is using 3/4 mdf, then you would be sitting right at 1.9 cubic feet. there's a program (crappy) that has a calculator in it called blaubox. it can tell you what your volume is. anyhow, most subs in a sealed enclosure do not really reccoment much more than 1.5 for low end subs. You could use your box, but it may not be the best for which sub you get. thanks, now when they say the size of enclosure, is that taking into account the displacement of the subwoofer? I remember when I bought this sub, i bought a box made for the size of it (which I believe was 1.0 to 1.75 CU ft.) 1.9 seems high, but who knows, mabye it is that big. thanks for all the help! -Nick |
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2 ohm SVC sub?
Sorry, I forgot the link...
http://www.bcae1.com/spboxnew2.htm -- - AUSTIN BECKER "Austin Becker" wrote in message news:1T0rf.644097$x96.409664@attbi_s72... No, that does not take into account the displacement of the subwoofer. Subwoofers typically have a very small displacement. Here's a link to a "subwoofer primer" that talks a bit about it. There is a table in the middle that looks like this. 8 inch .03 ft3 10 inch .05 ft3 12 inch .07 ft3 15 inch .10 ft3 That is a rough overview of what average subs displace. Unless of course you are using competition subs with large frames and massive magnets. Otherwise, it should be no worry. -- - AUSTIN BECKER "Dr Nick" wrote in message news:0E%qf.11040$9G.6225@dukeread10... "Austin Becker" wrote in message news:Oe%qf.643981$x96.280638@attbi_s72... assuming your box is using 3/4 mdf, then you would be sitting right at 1.9 cubic feet. there's a program (crappy) that has a calculator in it called blaubox. it can tell you what your volume is. anyhow, most subs in a sealed enclosure do not really reccoment much more than 1.5 for low end subs. You could use your box, but it may not be the best for which sub you get. thanks, now when they say the size of enclosure, is that taking into account the displacement of the subwoofer? I remember when I bought this sub, i bought a box made for the size of it (which I believe was 1.0 to 1.75 CU ft.) 1.9 seems high, but who knows, mabye it is that big. thanks for all the help! -Nick |
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2 ohm SVC sub?
"Austin Becker" wrote in message news:HT0rf.644098$x96.293876@attbi_s72... Sorry, I forgot the link... http://www.bcae1.com/spboxnew2.htm thanks for the link it's saying my box is 1.646 Cu ft. or 1.476 ct ft (not sure if it's 3/4" or 1" thick) (using the triangular box calc) so givin this info. can you recommend some subs in my power range (about 360 watts at 2 ohms) from ones I've heard I like JL audio's (I think my friend had W6's but not sure) but I think those are more of an SPL woofer than SQ, correct? any good SQ woofers come to mind? thanks |
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2 ohm SVC sub?
Well, the ones I mentioned earlier in the post are all pretty decent. JL
subs tend to be very expensive (although they are very good speakers), and the W6's and W7s have great sound quality. They also cost several hundred $. Alpine SWR-1242D 12" Dual 4 ohm 500w rms ($139 shipped). Also the SWS-1242D 12" dual 4 ohm 300w rms ($115 shipped). Pioneer makes several in that range listed, TS-W126DVC 500w rms ($82 shipped), TS-W306DVC 400w rms ($86 shipped). If you do not just want one of these, get two of the dual 2 ohm models of one of the above. Whatever suits your needs. Do this... go here. www.ebay.com Click on the "Consumer Electronics" option Click on the "Car Electronics" option Click on the "Car Subwoofers" option Leave brand as "Any" Size = "12" Voice Coil = "Dual" Condition = "New" Then hit the search button, and it will match your criteria. If I can give any advice is this... Stay away from companies like Volfenhag and Audiobahn (unless it's the compression piston driven sub which is more for competition). Don't buy subs that come in prefab boxes, especially the bandpass crap on there. But I would suggest going to a car audio store in your area, and listening to the subs to find the one you want. Then go to ebay and purchase it. -- - AUSTIN BECKER "Dr Nick" wrote in message news:P11rf.11048$9G.7476@dukeread10... "Austin Becker" wrote in message news:HT0rf.644098$x96.293876@attbi_s72... Sorry, I forgot the link... http://www.bcae1.com/spboxnew2.htm thanks for the link it's saying my box is 1.646 Cu ft. or 1.476 ct ft (not sure if it's 3/4" or 1" thick) (using the triangular box calc) so givin this info. can you recommend some subs in my power range (about 360 watts at 2 ohms) from ones I've heard I like JL audio's (I think my friend had W6's but not sure) but I think those are more of an SPL woofer than SQ, correct? any good SQ woofers come to mind? thanks |
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2 ohm SVC sub?
"Austin Becker" wrote in message news:mY1rf.644173$x96.94859@attbi_s72... Well, the ones I mentioned earlier in the post are all pretty decent. JL subs tend to be very expensive (although they are very good speakers), and the W6's and W7s have great sound quality. They also cost several hundred $. Alpine SWR-1242D 12" Dual 4 ohm 500w rms ($139 shipped). Also the SWS-1242D 12" dual 4 ohm 300w rms ($115 shipped). Pioneer makes several in that range listed, TS-W126DVC 500w rms ($82 shipped), TS-W306DVC 400w rms ($86 shipped). If you do not just want one of these, get two of the dual 2 ohm models of one of the above. Whatever suits your needs. Do this... go here. www.ebay.com Click on the "Consumer Electronics" option Click on the "Car Electronics" option Click on the "Car Subwoofers" option Leave brand as "Any" Size = "12" Voice Coil = "Dual" Condition = "New" Then hit the search button, and it will match your criteria. If I can give any advice is this... Stay away from companies like Volfenhag and Audiobahn (unless it's the compression piston driven sub which is more for competition). Don't buy subs that come in prefab boxes, especially the bandpass crap on there. But I would suggest going to a car audio store in your area, and listening to the subs to find the one you want. Then go to ebay and purchase it. thanks for all your help, oh I know the pitfalls that can become from getting the wrong stuff on ebay (my first "system" was 2 ****ty no name subs in a crappy sealed box with built in tweeters, haha. and a "Thump gold series" amp. needless to say I can't describe in words hwo BAD this sounded. I ended up buying some polk subs and changed them out... it was better but still pretty bad, got a used amp and it was at least decent. I'm a BIG researcher so I'll probably go to a local audio store and hear some stuff before I buy. thanks again for all your information. -Nick |