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Wifi volume controller ?
Anybody aware of a simple stand-alone Wifi-controlled fader system (with
Android remote software), 2 channel, either bal or unbal ? geoff |
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geoff wrote: Anybody aware of a simple stand-alone Wifi-controlled fader system (with Android remote software), 2 channel, either bal or unbal ? Well, there is the Shadow Hills Oculus which I think uses bluetooth for remote control rather than wifi. They want you to use their own control box but you could ask them about writing a possible Android application. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On 6/11/2015 4:25 a.m., Scott Dorsey wrote:
In article , geoff wrote: Anybody aware of a simple stand-alone Wifi-controlled fader system (with Android remote software), 2 channel, either bal or unbal ? Well, there is the Shadow Hills Oculus which I think uses bluetooth for remote control rather than wifi. They want you to use their own control box but you could ask them about writing a possible Android application. --scott Found a project for a 'kludge' that uses a stepped up/down RF wireless controller. http://tinyurl.com/qxhj6wl Surely a gap in the market for a product for remotely controlling desk output in situations where the desk is not out front ? geoff |
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geoff wrote:
Found a project for a 'kludge' that uses a stepped up/down RF wireless controller. http://tinyurl.com/qxhj6wl Surely a gap in the market for a product for remotely controlling desk output in situations where the desk is not out front ? Well, there are a lot of systems where you can remotely control the whole console from a remote device over wifi.... Roland pioneered it. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On 6/11/2015 12:23 p.m., Scott Dorsey wrote:
geoff wrote: Found a project for a 'kludge' that uses a stepped up/down RF wireless controller. http://tinyurl.com/qxhj6wl Surely a gap in the market for a product for remotely controlling desk output in situations where the desk is not out front ? Well, there are a lot of systems where you can remotely control the whole console from a remote device over wifi.... Roland pioneered it. --scott .... but apparently not to retro-fit existing non-remote-enabled systems. geoff |
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On 11/5/2015 2:03 PM, geoff wrote:
Surely a gap in the market for a product for remotely controlling desk output in situations where the desk is not out front ? There are a lot of mixers like that nowadays, but it's probably not worth anyone's time to build a 1- or 2-channel box to do the job. I recall seeing an infra-red remote volume controller at a NAMM show several years ago - one year only. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson Drop by http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com now and then |
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On 6/11/2015 3:27 p.m., Mike Rivers wrote:
On 11/5/2015 2:03 PM, geoff wrote: Surely a gap in the market for a product for remotely controlling desk output in situations where the desk is not out front ? There are a lot of mixers like that nowadays, but it's probably not worth anyone's time to build a 1- or 2-channel box to do the job. I recall seeing an infra-red remote volume controller at a NAMM show several years ago - one year only. I would imagine there would be a market for this for a large proportion of all mixers without remote functionality currently being used for small to medium gigs and other functions where the sound desk is not out front, ie most of them - must be hundreds of thousands ! How convenient - just wander around the audience and tweak the level if necessary ! geoff |
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On 11/6/2015 3:00 PM, geoff wrote:
I would imagine there would be a market for this for a large proportion of all mixers without remote functionality currently being used for small to medium gigs and other functions where the sound desk is not out front, ie most of them - must be hundreds of thousands ! How convenient - just wander around the audience and tweak the level if necessary ! What people want to be able to do is not simply adjust the volume of a mix, but adjust the mix itself. What you're asking about might be more at home in a boardroom or conference room - and there are hundreds of thousands of them. But they're prepared to pay a lot more than musicians pay for their gear. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson Drop by http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com now and then |
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On 7/11/2015 8:17 p.m., Mike Rivers wrote:
On 11/6/2015 3:00 PM, geoff wrote: I would imagine there would be a market for this for a large proportion of all mixers without remote functionality currently being used for small to medium gigs and other functions where the sound desk is not out front, ie most of them - must be hundreds of thousands ! How convenient - just wander around the audience and tweak the level if necessary ! What people want to be able to do is not simply adjust the volume of a mix, but adjust the mix itself. What you're asking about might be more at home in a boardroom or conference room - and there are hundreds of thousands of them. But they're prepared to pay a lot more than musicians pay for their gear. The mix is something I can adjust (to a degree) with headphones from anywhere. The volume out in front is surely best adjusted from out in front ?!!! Put it this way, for a particular type of event I , if nobody else, would be quite happy to pay money for such a device ! geoff |
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On 11/7/2015 2:32 AM, geoff wrote:
The mix is something I can adjust (to a degree) with headphones from anywhere. The volume out in front is surely best adjusted from out in front ?!!! Put it this way, for a particular type of event I , if nobody else, would be quite happy to pay money for such a device ! I would be happy to pay for such a device to adjust the volume of _someone else's_ mix, but I don't think they'd let me. Seriously, though, do you have a specific application or are you just wishing? Are you talking about your band playing a gig in a bar, or being able to make volume adjustments for a program that runs all day where people are coming and going and you may need to change the level to match up with the background noise and size of the listening audience at different times of the day? Or are you just too lazy to walk out and listen, decide if it's too loud or too quiet (or even measure it - there are a number of SPL meter apps these days are stable enough for reference even if they're not accurately calibrated. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson Drop by http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com now and then |
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geoff writes:
Anybody aware of a simple stand-alone Wifi-controlled fader system (with Android remote software), 2 channel, either bal or unbal ? geoff Like this? http://www.soundcraft.com/products/ui16 -- Randy Yates Digital Signal Labs http://www.digitalsignallabs.com |
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On 8/11/2015 3:52 a.m., Mike Rivers wrote:
Or are you just too lazy to walk out and listen, decide if it's too loud or too quiet (or even measure it - there are a number of SPL meter apps these days are stable enough for reference even if they're not accurately calibrated. Call it "too lazy" if you like, but why not just walk out and do it from there straight off ? Presumably that's the reason such functionality (plus much more, for whatever that's worth) is standard fare in current higher-end consoles. Maybe everybody is getting lazy, or lacks the skill to make an correct all-encompassing judgement in one shot.... My particular immediate case is an outdoor festival-type thing covering a medium-sized park area, with wildly differing program which would benefit from frequent level tweaking from 'out there'. geoff |
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On 8/11/2015 4:53 a.m., Randy Yates wrote:
geoff writes: Anybody aware of a simple stand-alone Wifi-controlled fader system (with Android remote software), 2 channel, either bal or unbal ? geoff Like this? http://www.soundcraft.com/products/ui16 Overkill. I just want a 2-channel volume control to plug in a insert or in line with an existing desk output. Wi-fi or other RF control. geoff |
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On 11/7/2015 2:50 PM, geoff wrote:
Call it "too lazy" if you like, but why not just walk out and do it from there straight off ? Yeah, why not? Set the level, walk out and listen to it. If it's OK, leave it alone. If it's too loud or too soft, go back and adjust it. Pretty soon you'll get the hang of setting the house level from the mixer just by listening from that position. You'd be surprised at how easy it really is. Presumably that's the reason such functionality (plus much more, for whatever that's worth) is standard fare in current higher-end consoles. Nope, the reason it to mix from a remote position. You can walk around the hall and if you find a spot where a particular instrument is too weak or too loud, you can adjust it to sound right where you are, then walk around some more and make sure you haven't screwed up the mix in other places in the room. Another application is to be able to mix from the house without taking up a few seats with equipment that can be sold to a paying audience (the seats, not the equipment). Promoters really like this. Probably the most desirable-sounding application, though one that's often mis-applied, is to let musicians mix their monitors from the stage. A better version is that the engineer who knows something about mixing monitors can take a mobile device on stage during a sound check and get the monitors set up so that everyone is equally happy. But just to adjust the volume of the mix remotely? You'd need a better reason than "why not?" to get someone to make what you're dreaming about. But then, probably someone already does, but maybe outside of pro-audio circles so I and my esteemed colleagues here aren't likely to have encountered it. Maybe everybody is getting lazy, or lacks the skill to make an correct all-encompassing judgement in one shot.... If they weren't so lazy, they'd take two shots if that's what they need. My particular immediate case is an outdoor festival-type thing covering a medium-sized park area, with wildly differing program which would benefit from frequent level tweaking from 'out there'. There's no excuse for not mixing a show like that from "out there." And when you're mixing the show, you can control the overall volume. If you can't set up a mixer "out there," this would be a good application for a mixer with remote capability. But given that there are differences in the program material, somebody has to mix it. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson Drop by http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com now and then |
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Here's one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyes_H9zIc8 downloads.deusm.com/designnews/Gadget_Freak_RVC.pdf http://www.designnews.com/author.asp...dfpLayout=blog Whip one up when you get some time. The problem that you're going to have with a system like this at an outdoor festival is with operating range. Bluetooth or WiFi can't be depended on for more than about 50 feet, and that's with the wind blowing the ether in the right direction (and down hill, too). I have a TASCAM recorder that has a WiFi remote control, and I find that about 30 feet is as far as I can get away from it with my phone. My guy at TASCAM says that he's operated one across his warehouse at a distance of about 100 feet, but geez, if you can't walk 100 feet a couple of times to check the level, you're too lazy. -- "Today's production equipment is IT based and cannot be operated without a passing knowledge of computing, although it seems that it can be operated without a passing knowledge of audio" - John Watkinson Drop by http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com now and then |
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On 8/11/2015 2:28 p.m., Mike Rivers wrote:
Here's one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyes_H9zIc8 downloads.deusm.com/designnews/Gadget_Freak_RVC.pdf http://www.designnews.com/author.asp...dfpLayout=blog Whip one up when you get some time. Yeah, that's the one my broken TinyURL pointed to. May well do when I've finished my Xmas projects from the last several Xmasae ago ! Or just go out and buy a QU24 .... geoff |
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On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 3:46:37 AM UTC+2, geoff wrote:
On 8/11/2015 2:28 p.m., Mike Rivers wrote: Here's one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyes_H9zIc8 downloads.deusm.com/designnews/Gadget_Freak_RVC.pdf http://www.designnews.com/author.asp...dfpLayout=blog Whip one up when you get some time. Yeah, that's the one my broken TinyURL pointed to. May well do when I've finished my Xmas projects from the last several Xmasae ago ! Or just go out and buy a QU24 .... geoff We've just bought a Behringer XR18. Does everything via WiFi or network, with any device (Android or iPad or iPhone) or Linux, Windows, or iMac or Raspberry pi (!) computer as controller. Nothing on the box, it sits on stage with XLR combo's in, and XLR's outs. On board effects, audio processing on every channel, 6 monitor mixes if you like, and mains. 16 mic pres with additional stereo inputs. Record entire multitrack via USB. Does away with: snake, DI boxes etc. Control with your phone, a tablet, each guy can adjust their own monitor mix. We paid about $800 for it. Thanks to Mike for pointing us in this direction. We are going to love it. -Angus. |
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geoff wrote:
On 8/11/2015 3:52 a.m., Mike Rivers wrote: Or are you just too lazy to walk out and listen, decide if it's too loud or too quiet (or even measure it - there are a number of SPL meter apps these days are stable enough for reference even if they're not accurately calibrated. Call it "too lazy" if you like, but why not just walk out and do it from there straight off ? Presumably that's the reason such functionality (plus much more, for whatever that's worth) is standard fare in current higher-end consoles. Maybe everybody is getting lazy, or lacks the skill to make an correct all-encompassing judgement in one shot.... My particular immediate case is an outdoor festival-type thing covering a medium-sized park area, with wildly differing program which would benefit from frequent level tweaking from 'out there'. I am not sure that just being able to tweak overall levels is all that useful. I think the key to not needing to do that is to try and get uniform levels across the whole idea where the audience is, and I understand that in a tent situation that can be very difficult. But delayed speakers can help a whole lot, sometimes with more than one delay ring. Once you get the thing tuned in properly you can walk around the site and have fairly even levels across the area except possibly in a few spots where reflections off the tent top cause big issues. That's not to say that you shouldn't walk the hall now and then, but walking the hall is not a substitute for getting even coverage in the first place. The real problems come when the FOH position gets stuck in one of those spots where reflections off the tent top are severe. In that case, though, you not only can't believe overall levels but you can't believe the mix either. That's a case when having complete control over the board from a remote position is a win. However, putting the FOH position in a lousy place is a political problem and not a technical one. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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