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Correct Hookups??? HELP
OK. This is a fairly long description/question and I show extreme
appreciation to anyone who helps me with any of the questions/problems I am having. Thanks in advance. I have been recording for a little while on my Fostex FD-8 digital 8 track, which has 2 XLR inputs and an optical pipe. I recently purchased both a Presonus MP20 preamp and an FMR Audio RNC (really nice compressor) to enhance my sound. I need help trying to decide the best way to run my cables, as well as the correct ones to purchase (I will be going Planet Waves on most of them). It all seems simple to some degree, but some of it is confusing me. Below I will list links to the actual hookups on my gear to make orientation and explanation easier: 8-Track: http://www.megaaudio.de/pdf/pdffiles/fostex/fd8.pdf (Page 15) Preamp: http://www.presonus.com/html/products/mp20.html Compressor: http://www.fmraudio.com/panels.html As of now, I only own one microphone - an ADK A-51 large condenser (XLR). I use it for my vocals and acoustic guitar. I will be purchasing a small condenser mic soon. My current path: MIC--PREAMP XLR IN--PREAMP XLR OUT--RECORDER XLR IN -in running the compressor, I run 2 cables per channel (so, 1 channel for now): COMPRESSOR OUT--PREAMP INSERT RETURN--PREAMP INSERT SEND--COMPRESSOR IN (loop) This setup appears to be working correctly for me, however I have some questions. First, the RNC documentation discusses the ability to use only 1 TRS Cable per channel to send to the insert slot of a recorder, etc. Without involving the preamp, I attempted this from the RNC directly to my recorder. The recorder has an INSERT 8 and INSERT 7 slot; not a return/send for this (however, it also has auxillary connections.) I attempted hooking a single TRS cable from both the IN and OUT slots of the RNC to my recorder with no result. I could only get it to work through the auxillary slots using 2 cables. The FD-8 manual briefly discusses using the INSERT slot specifically for compressors. FMR has a more detailed description at http://www.fmraudio.com/faq.html It goes into further detail by clicking a link within the page. The diagram shows a single 1/4" TRS on each end and says only IN/OUT for the RNC side (but doesn't the actual slot, which they don't specify, matter?) I found that Planet Waves' INSERT cables have a single 1/4" TRS cable on one end and dual 1/4" TRS cables on the other. Is this what I should be using perhaps? Moving on. Perhaps now that I bring the preamp into play, it will hopefully solve the insert problems. However, I am still unable to do any single cable connections. The MP20 (preamp) uses RETURN/SEND. REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTION: should I be hooking my compressor up to the preamp directly or through the recorder? Also, should this 1-2 Insert cable style such as the Planet Waves be used anywhere? And again, is the one cable deal not going to work here? Next, I don't really know how the MIX R/L OUTPUT is supposed to be used. Am I supposed to run my XLR mic into my preamp as I already have and instead of running the XLR out, run the MIX OUT to the XLR IN channels on my recorder? Or should I not worry about the MIX OUT until I get a second microphone? Finally, what type of cables should I be using where. I've read about PATCH, INSERT and BANTAM (TT) cables (specifically thos offered by Planet Waves). Sorry if this all sounds novice to some of you, but I just want to do things right. I appreciate all who have sacraficed the time to read this and especially thank those who lend suggestions. |
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Correct Hookups??? HELP
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Date: 7/18/03 11:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time wrote in Message-id: My current path: MIC--PREAMP XLR IN--PREAMP XLR OUT--RECORDER XLR IN -in running the compressor, I run 2 cables per channel (so, 1 channel for now): COMPRESSOR OUT--PREAMP INSERT RETURN--PREAMP INSERT SEND--COMPRESSOR IN (loop) This is good, I always like to preamp first. Waves' INSERT cables have a single 1/4" TRS cable on one end and dual 1/4" TRS cables on the other. Is this what I should be using perhaps? It depends on the device your using, I don't know about the RNC but many newer pieces of gear have servobalanced conections (you should check to see what you have). This means that you can use TRS or TS in the same female plug, if it requries a TRS then you must use them. Next, I don't really know how the MIX R/L OUTPUT is supposed to be used. I think this is your main Left/Right mix out for monitors/speakers. Finally, what type of cables should I be using where. I've read about PATCH, INSERT and BANTAM (TT) cables (specifically thos offered by Planet Waves). If you want a TT connection you can use it (I don't see any in your set-up) but most guy's use 1/4" TRS's for patching. |
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