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Interconnect "Directionality"
I recently purchased a pair of these interconnect cables because of
their "patented turbiner plugs": http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/pr...ku=3DMCM550I.5 I'm not in to any cable hype, and purchased these simply because of claims regarding their superior grip on RCA jacks. This does hold true for some worn down jacks on an old amp of mine. These cables show a preferred direction of current flow, as the picture illustrates by white bands near one end of the cable. I recall running into claims about this current direction flow before and am interested in what readers hear believe about this phenomenon; true or false, and perhaps it physico-chemical basis. Can the atoms or molecules within the conductor be permanently aligned in particular fashion? What differences can you expect to hear if you reverse the direction? |
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Norman M. Schwartz wrote:
I recently purchased a pair of these interconnect cables because of their "patented turbiner plugs": http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/pr...ku=3DMCM550I.5 I'm not in to any cable hype, and purchased these simply because of claims regarding their superior grip on RCA jacks. This does hold true for some worn down jacks on an old amp of mine. These cables show a preferred direction of current flow, as the picture illustrates by white bands near one end of the cable. I recall running into claims about this current direction flow before and am interested in what readers hear believe about this phenomenon; true or false, and perhaps it physico-chemical basis. Can the atoms or molecules within the conductor be permanently aligned in particular fashion? The conductors are symmetrical. Current flow is AC (i.e., positive and negative) in the interconnect cables, so there would be a big problem if the resistances are dependent on which way current flows. What differences can you expect to hear if you reverse the direction? No difference. |
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"Norman M. Schwartz" wrote in message
... I recently purchased a pair of these interconnect cables because of their "patented turbiner plugs": http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/pr...ku=3DMCM550I.5 I'm not in to any cable hype, and purchased these simply because of claims regarding their superior grip on RCA jacks. This does hold true for some worn down jacks on an old amp of mine. These cables show a preferred direction of current flow, as the picture illustrates by white bands near one end of the cable. I recall running into claims about this current direction flow before and am interested in what readers hear believe about this phenomenon; true or false, and perhaps it physico-chemical basis. Can the atoms or molecules within the conductor be permanently aligned in particular fashion? What differences can you expect to hear if you reverse the direction? The signal is AC. It doesn't have directionality. The cable is probably the type which has two wires for the signal and return, and an overall screen which is connected to one end only. The perceived difference is down to the capability of the screen end bit of hardware to help keep external crap off the signal. There will almost certainly be many other opinions on this. Graham Holloway www.accuphon.co.uk |
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On 1 Aug 2005 15:45:24 GMT, "Norman M. Schwartz"
wrote: I recently purchased a pair of these interconnect cables because of their "patented turbiner plugs": http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/pr...ku=3DMCM550I.5 I'm not in to any cable hype, and purchased these simply because of claims regarding their superior grip on RCA jacks. This does hold true for some worn down jacks on an old amp of mine. These cables show a preferred direction of current flow, as the picture illustrates by white bands near one end of the cable. I recall running into claims about this current direction flow before and am interested in what readers hear believe about this phenomenon; true or false, and perhaps it physico-chemical basis. Can the atoms or molecules within the conductor be permanently aligned in particular fashion? What differences can you expect to hear if you reverse the direction? Hi Norman: Some cable makers use a two conductor, shielded cable with the shield connected at one end only. This type cable should have the end with the shield connection connected to the input of the device. For a clearer illustration of this practice, and instructions on how to make these cables, see: http://www.wmeckle.com/CABLE/Cable.htm Hope this helps. -=Bill Eckle=- Vanity Web Page at: http://www.wmeckle.com |
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"Norman M. Schwartz" wrote in message
... I recently purchased a pair of these interconnect cables because of their "patented turbiner plugs": http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/pr...ku=3DMCM550I.5 I'm not in to any cable hype, and purchased these simply because of claims regarding their superior grip on RCA jacks. This does hold true for some worn down jacks on an old amp of mine. These cables show a preferred direction of current flow, as the picture illustrates by white bands near one end of the cable. I recall running into claims about this current direction flow before and am interested in what readers hear believe about this phenomenon; true or false, and perhaps it physico-chemical basis. Can the atoms or molecules within the conductor be permanently aligned in particular fashion? What differences can you expect to hear if you reverse the direction? Interconnects are often marked with a direction arrow or a marker band at one end only. This generally indicates which cable end the screen shield is grounded to. This avoids some possibility of ground loops occuring when using unbalanced interconnects. Generally the marker end is used as the source end of the interconnect, used the other way could affect screening. Sonically I'm not aware that electrons have any preferred sense of direction unless they have a ring around their leg ;-) =-Mike=- |
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I have a number of homemade interconnects that are "directional" by
virtue of their telescoping shield. If I reverse the direction, I hear hum or buzz...sometimes. |
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Some cables "could" be directional because the shield is not connected
at one end. Other than that I think the claim is BS. ---MIKE--- In the White Mountains of New Hampshire (44=B0 15' N - Elevation 1580') |
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Norman M. Schwartz wrote:
I recently purchased a pair of these interconnect cables because of their "patented turbiner plugs": http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/pr...ku=3DMCM550I.5 I'm not in to any cable hype, and purchased these simply because of claims regarding their superior grip on RCA jacks. This does hold true for some worn down jacks on an old amp of mine. These cables show a preferred direction of current flow, as the picture illustrates by white bands near one end of the cable. I recall running into claims about this current direction flow before and am interested in what readers hear believe about this phenomenon; true or false, and perhaps it physico-chemical basis. Can the atoms or molecules within the conductor be permanently aligned in particular fashion? What differences can you expect to hear if you reverse the direction? Only what you will hear as a result of being told there is a difference. I'm not poo-pooing ALL "audiophile cable" claims, by the way. For the most part, they DO have terminations superior to those in the "grey patch cords in the box" that come for free when you buy a component. I think that's the most important difference. Good plugs are more important than gaslight any time. -J |
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Actually, a lot of those so called "turbine" connetors will grip so
tightly onto a jack as to break it loose from the equipment when you try to remove it. Use that type of connector at your own risk. There is not truth to directional current flow other than its relationship to the shield. The shield of a better cable is connected only at one end and the other end "floats". It has nothing to do with ground loops as there is a separate signal ground conductor in this stype of cable. The shield just shields the signal from Rf as noted by others. A cable does not have to have a proper shield to be marked as directional and as far as I know there is no law to prevent any manufacturer from marking a simple two conductor cable with directional arrows, so buyer beware here. I have no idea what specific cable you are using, so this is not a comment related directly to that product, but to cable construction in general. -Bill www.uptownaudio.com Roanoke VA (540) 343-1250 "Norman M. Schwartz" wrote in message ... I recently purchased a pair of these interconnect cables because of their "patented turbiner plugs": http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/pr...ku=3DMCM550I.5 I'm not in to any cable hype, and purchased these simply because of claims regarding their superior grip on RCA jacks. This does hold true for some worn down jacks on an old amp of mine. These cables show a preferred direction of current flow, as the picture illustrates by white bands near one end of the cable. I recall running into claims about this current direction flow before and am interested in what readers hear believe about this phenomenon; true or false, and perhaps it physico-chemical basis. Can the atoms or molecules within the conductor be permanently aligned in particular fashion? What differences can you expect to hear if you reverse the direction? |
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"Uptown Audio" wrote in message
... Actually, a lot of those so called "turbine" connetors will grip so tightly onto a jack as to break it loose from the equipment when you try to remove it. Use that type of connector at your own risk. This is not idle chat. I've already pulled apart two different female rca jacks using these terminators. snip, irrelevant to above |
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Harry Lavo wrote:
"Uptown Audio" wrote in message ... Actually, a lot of those so called "turbine" connetors will grip so tightly onto a jack as to break it loose from the equipment when you try to remove it. Use that type of connector at your own risk. This is not idle chat. I've already pulled apart two different female rca jacks using these terminators. I third that motion. It's not as likely a scenario with higher end gear that has the rca jacks bolted to the chassis, but I have ruined 2 inexpensive pieces of equipment when those "turbines" were in a deathgrip with the connectors that were just soldered to the internal pc board and poking through the chassis. I had a bunch of monster cable laying around that I retrofitted with cardas ends for that reason. Cheers, |
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"Ritz" wrote in message
... Harry Lavo wrote: "Uptown Audio" wrote in message ... Actually, a lot of those so called "turbine" connetors will grip so tightly onto a jack as to break it loose from the equipment when you try to remove it. Use that type of connector at your own risk. This is not idle chat. I've already pulled apart two different female rca jacks using these terminators. I third that motion. It's not as likely a scenario with higher end gear that has the rca jacks bolted to the chassis, but I have ruined 2 inexpensive pieces of equipment when those "turbines" were in a deathgrip with the connectors that were just soldered to the internal pc board and poking through the chassis. I had a bunch of monster cable laying around that I retrofitted with cardas ends for that reason. The Monster Cable 550i with "turbiner" plugs I've been using have been on and off the jacks of several pieces of equipment, that I can I recall; Bryston 4BSST, Marchand 2 way crossover, and ancient Audio Research SP-3 and GAS Ampzilla II, without any failures. (The cable was originally intended for the older pieces having worn jacks.) The intuitive precaution which I observed was to rotate plugs about 180 degrees clock-wise and counter clock-wise while withdrawing it in small stages from the jack. While I suspect that the other seasoned audiophiles who responded here did similarly, the plug does make a tight grip, BUT that is it's intended use. Not for the plug, I would never have bought the cable. Instead I limit myself to the flimsy stuff that comes packaged along with equipment, purchased in Home Depot and National Liquidator, and if I'm in a (cable) spending mood, Radio Shack. |
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