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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hide whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. I'll bet you "knw" more about *everything* than I do, sockpuppet. LOL! |
#402
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
#404
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
#405
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. No doubt an abstract concept that is way over Yustabe's pointed little head. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, Agreed. It's all a matter of degree. although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- It could go either way. Most larger guitar amps are push-pull, so they could easily have less nonlinear distortion than a SET. That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. Shows that Yustabe can't master the intellectual tools required to deal with this level of abstraction. Everybody who is surprised, please raise your hands! |
#407
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. No doubt an abstract concept that is way over Yustabe's pointed little head. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, Agreed. It's all a matter of degree. although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- It could go either way. Most larger guitar amps are push-pull, so they could easily have less nonlinear distortion than a SET. That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. Shows that Yustabe can't master the intellectual tools required to deal with this level of abstraction. Everybody who is surprised, please raise your hands! |
#408
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. No doubt an abstract concept that is way over Yustabe's pointed little head. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, Agreed. It's all a matter of degree. although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- It could go either way. Most larger guitar amps are push-pull, so they could easily have less nonlinear distortion than a SET. That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. Shows that Yustabe can't master the intellectual tools required to deal with this level of abstraction. Everybody who is surprised, please raise your hands! |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. No doubt an abstract concept that is way over Yustabe's pointed little head. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, Agreed. It's all a matter of degree. although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- It could go either way. Most larger guitar amps are push-pull, so they could easily have less nonlinear distortion than a SET. That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. Shows that Yustabe can't master the intellectual tools required to deal with this level of abstraction. Everybody who is surprised, please raise your hands! |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hide whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. I'll bet you "knw" more about *everything* than I do, sockpuppet. LOL! I know more about 'good sound' than you do. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hide whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. I'll bet you "knw" more about *everything* than I do, sockpuppet. LOL! I know more about 'good sound' than you do. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hide whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. I'll bet you "knw" more about *everything* than I do, sockpuppet. LOL! I know more about 'good sound' than you do. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
#413
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hide whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. I'll bet you "knw" more about *everything* than I do, sockpuppet. LOL! I know more about 'good sound' than you do. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hide whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. I'll bet you "knw" more about *everything* than I do, sockpuppet. LOL! I know more about 'good sound' than you do. Just like you know more about using spell-checkers and living in custom-built houses than I do, eh Yustabe? LOL! |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hide whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. I'll bet you "knw" more about *everything* than I do, sockpuppet. LOL! I know more about 'good sound' than you do. Just like you know more about using spell-checkers and living in custom-built houses than I do, eh Yustabe? LOL! |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hide whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. I'll bet you "knw" more about *everything* than I do, sockpuppet. LOL! I know more about 'good sound' than you do. Just like you know more about using spell-checkers and living in custom-built houses than I do, eh Yustabe? LOL! |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hide whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. I'll bet you "knw" more about *everything* than I do, sockpuppet. LOL! I know more about 'good sound' than you do. Just like you know more about using spell-checkers and living in custom-built houses than I do, eh Yustabe? LOL! |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC),
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC),
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. |
#420
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC),
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC),
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:23:32 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote: "Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. No, it makes them the same if you overdrive the 'hi fi' amp to the same degree as guitar amps are normally overdriven. Note that an SET may exhibit exactly the same effects even if not overdriven! You have of course over the years, clearly demonstrated that you know about three fifths of **** all about good sound.................. -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
#423
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:23:32 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote: "Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. No, it makes them the same if you overdrive the 'hi fi' amp to the same degree as guitar amps are normally overdriven. Note that an SET may exhibit exactly the same effects even if not overdriven! You have of course over the years, clearly demonstrated that you know about three fifths of **** all about good sound.................. -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:23:32 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote: "Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. No, it makes them the same if you overdrive the 'hi fi' amp to the same degree as guitar amps are normally overdriven. Note that an SET may exhibit exactly the same effects even if not overdriven! You have of course over the years, clearly demonstrated that you know about three fifths of **** all about good sound.................. -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:23:32 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe"
wrote: "Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:09:15 -0500, "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote: "Arny Krueger" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... "Michael McKelvy" wrote in message ... "Sockpuppet Yustabe" wrote in message ... Most guitar palyers would find an audio tube amp, outfitted with appropriate inputs, useless. So do most audiophiles, but that's not the point I was making. Tubes distort. The distortion of tube amp that a guitar player might use is useful for creating music. The distortion an tube used in a home hi-fi creates, is just distortion. That some persons like that distortion is their choice. It is not the same distortion, so please don't compare them. This reply rather obviously demonstrates the sockpuppet's lack of understanding of distortion in audio circuits. Note that he's always run and hid whenever I asked him about his educational credentials. He knows more about audio than I do because that's what the voices in his head tell him. I knw more about what a tube audio amp and a tube guitar amp sound like. Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). -- That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. No, it makes them the same if you overdrive the 'hi fi' amp to the same degree as guitar amps are normally overdriven. Note that an SET may exhibit exactly the same effects even if not overdriven! You have of course over the years, clearly demonstrated that you know about three fifths of **** all about good sound.................. -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:28:14 -0600, dave weil
wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. No, it won't, if you overdrive a SET (or push-pull) 'hi-fi' amp to the same degree as a guitar amp is conventionally overdriven. I'd advise you to back off at this point, since I worked as an amplifier design and repair technician in a music shop a long time ago, when Marshall stacks were cutting edge. Actually, the really cool thing is that they still are! :-) Claim to fame - I drank with Billy Connelly when he was only a Humble Bum. Poor bugger never could play that banjo........................ -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:28:14 -0600, dave weil
wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. No, it won't, if you overdrive a SET (or push-pull) 'hi-fi' amp to the same degree as a guitar amp is conventionally overdriven. I'd advise you to back off at this point, since I worked as an amplifier design and repair technician in a music shop a long time ago, when Marshall stacks were cutting edge. Actually, the really cool thing is that they still are! :-) Claim to fame - I drank with Billy Connelly when he was only a Humble Bum. Poor bugger never could play that banjo........................ -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:28:14 -0600, dave weil
wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. No, it won't, if you overdrive a SET (or push-pull) 'hi-fi' amp to the same degree as a guitar amp is conventionally overdriven. I'd advise you to back off at this point, since I worked as an amplifier design and repair technician in a music shop a long time ago, when Marshall stacks were cutting edge. Actually, the really cool thing is that they still are! :-) Claim to fame - I drank with Billy Connelly when he was only a Humble Bum. Poor bugger never could play that banjo........................ -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:28:14 -0600, dave weil
wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. No, it won't, if you overdrive a SET (or push-pull) 'hi-fi' amp to the same degree as a guitar amp is conventionally overdriven. I'd advise you to back off at this point, since I worked as an amplifier design and repair technician in a music shop a long time ago, when Marshall stacks were cutting edge. Actually, the really cool thing is that they still are! :-) Claim to fame - I drank with Billy Connelly when he was only a Humble Bum. Poor bugger never could play that banjo........................ -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:49:17 +0000 (UTC),
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:28:14 -0600, dave weil wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. No, it won't, if you overdrive a SET (or push-pull) 'hi-fi' amp to the same degree as a guitar amp is conventionally overdriven. I disagree. The amp will fry before you get to the level of distortion possible (and sometimes desirable) with a guitar amp. I have *never* heard any "home hi-fi amp" achieve the same level of distortion. I'd advise you to back off at this point, since I worked as an amplifier design and repair technician in a music shop a long time ago, when Marshall stacks were cutting edge. Actually, the really cool thing is that they still are! :-) Claim to fame - I drank with Billy Connelly when he was only a Humble Bum. Poor bugger never could play that banjo........................ So? I helped bail Chrissie Hynde out of jail once. Guess that trumps you. |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:49:17 +0000 (UTC),
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:28:14 -0600, dave weil wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. No, it won't, if you overdrive a SET (or push-pull) 'hi-fi' amp to the same degree as a guitar amp is conventionally overdriven. I disagree. The amp will fry before you get to the level of distortion possible (and sometimes desirable) with a guitar amp. I have *never* heard any "home hi-fi amp" achieve the same level of distortion. I'd advise you to back off at this point, since I worked as an amplifier design and repair technician in a music shop a long time ago, when Marshall stacks were cutting edge. Actually, the really cool thing is that they still are! :-) Claim to fame - I drank with Billy Connelly when he was only a Humble Bum. Poor bugger never could play that banjo........................ So? I helped bail Chrissie Hynde out of jail once. Guess that trumps you. |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:49:17 +0000 (UTC),
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:28:14 -0600, dave weil wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. No, it won't, if you overdrive a SET (or push-pull) 'hi-fi' amp to the same degree as a guitar amp is conventionally overdriven. I disagree. The amp will fry before you get to the level of distortion possible (and sometimes desirable) with a guitar amp. I have *never* heard any "home hi-fi amp" achieve the same level of distortion. I'd advise you to back off at this point, since I worked as an amplifier design and repair technician in a music shop a long time ago, when Marshall stacks were cutting edge. Actually, the really cool thing is that they still are! :-) Claim to fame - I drank with Billy Connelly when he was only a Humble Bum. Poor bugger never could play that banjo........................ So? I helped bail Chrissie Hynde out of jail once. Guess that trumps you. |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:58:21 -0600, dave weil
wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:49:17 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:28:14 -0600, dave weil wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. No, it won't, if you overdrive a SET (or push-pull) 'hi-fi' amp to the same degree as a guitar amp is conventionally overdriven. I disagree. The amp will fry before you get to the level of distortion possible (and sometimes desirable) with a guitar amp. You are wrong. No ifs or buts, just plain wrong. I have *never* heard any "home hi-fi amp" achieve the same level of distortion. Try listening to some Carys................... I'd advise you to back off at this point, since I worked as an amplifier design and repair technician in a music shop a long time ago, when Marshall stacks were cutting edge. Actually, the really cool thing is that they still are! :-) Claim to fame - I drank with Billy Connelly when he was only a Humble Bum. Poor bugger never could play that banjo........................ So? I helped bail Chrissie Hynde out of jail once. Guess that trumps you. Nah, being a bail bondsman doesn't count......... :-) -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:58:21 -0600, dave weil
wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:49:17 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:28:14 -0600, dave weil wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. No, it won't, if you overdrive a SET (or push-pull) 'hi-fi' amp to the same degree as a guitar amp is conventionally overdriven. I disagree. The amp will fry before you get to the level of distortion possible (and sometimes desirable) with a guitar amp. You are wrong. No ifs or buts, just plain wrong. I have *never* heard any "home hi-fi amp" achieve the same level of distortion. Try listening to some Carys................... I'd advise you to back off at this point, since I worked as an amplifier design and repair technician in a music shop a long time ago, when Marshall stacks were cutting edge. Actually, the really cool thing is that they still are! :-) Claim to fame - I drank with Billy Connelly when he was only a Humble Bum. Poor bugger never could play that banjo........................ So? I helped bail Chrissie Hynde out of jail once. Guess that trumps you. Nah, being a bail bondsman doesn't count......... :-) -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:58:21 -0600, dave weil
wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:49:17 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:28:14 -0600, dave weil wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. No, it won't, if you overdrive a SET (or push-pull) 'hi-fi' amp to the same degree as a guitar amp is conventionally overdriven. I disagree. The amp will fry before you get to the level of distortion possible (and sometimes desirable) with a guitar amp. You are wrong. No ifs or buts, just plain wrong. I have *never* heard any "home hi-fi amp" achieve the same level of distortion. Try listening to some Carys................... I'd advise you to back off at this point, since I worked as an amplifier design and repair technician in a music shop a long time ago, when Marshall stacks were cutting edge. Actually, the really cool thing is that they still are! :-) Claim to fame - I drank with Billy Connelly when he was only a Humble Bum. Poor bugger never could play that banjo........................ So? I helped bail Chrissie Hynde out of jail once. Guess that trumps you. Nah, being a bail bondsman doesn't count......... :-) -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:58:21 -0600, dave weil
wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:49:17 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:28:14 -0600, dave weil wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC), (Stewart Pinkerton) wrote: Obviously not, since you claim that the distortions are different. The plain fact is that the distortion mechanisms are identical, although the guitar amp may well have higher levels (aside from SETs). YOu also don't seem to know what you're talking about, since the guitar amp will *always* be able to generate more distortion than even an SET. No, it won't, if you overdrive a SET (or push-pull) 'hi-fi' amp to the same degree as a guitar amp is conventionally overdriven. I disagree. The amp will fry before you get to the level of distortion possible (and sometimes desirable) with a guitar amp. You are wrong. No ifs or buts, just plain wrong. I have *never* heard any "home hi-fi amp" achieve the same level of distortion. Try listening to some Carys................... I'd advise you to back off at this point, since I worked as an amplifier design and repair technician in a music shop a long time ago, when Marshall stacks were cutting edge. Actually, the really cool thing is that they still are! :-) Claim to fame - I drank with Billy Connelly when he was only a Humble Bum. Poor bugger never could play that banjo........................ So? I helped bail Chrissie Hynde out of jail once. Guess that trumps you. Nah, being a bail bondsman doesn't count......... :-) -- Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news 1 It could go either way. Most larger guitar amps are push-pull, so they could easily have less nonlinear distortion than a SET. surprise!!!! look at the preamp section, dummy. That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. Shows that Yustabe can't master the intellectual tools required to deal with this level of abstraction. Everybody who is surprised, please raise your hands! Shows what little you know about tube guitar amps and distortion. Much of the purposeful distortion comes from the preamp side.. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news 1 It could go either way. Most larger guitar amps are push-pull, so they could easily have less nonlinear distortion than a SET. surprise!!!! look at the preamp section, dummy. That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. Shows that Yustabe can't master the intellectual tools required to deal with this level of abstraction. Everybody who is surprised, please raise your hands! Shows what little you know about tube guitar amps and distortion. Much of the purposeful distortion comes from the preamp side.. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hafler (the first MOSFET? I don't think so)
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message news 1 It could go either way. Most larger guitar amps are push-pull, so they could easily have less nonlinear distortion than a SET. surprise!!!! look at the preamp section, dummy. That makes them not the same, and makes them sound not the same. Shows that Yustabe can't master the intellectual tools required to deal with this level of abstraction. Everybody who is surprised, please raise your hands! Shows what little you know about tube guitar amps and distortion. Much of the purposeful distortion comes from the preamp side.. ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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