[Jon Yaeger]

Hey, I'm still waiting for you to respond with some facts.

Or will it take you as long as Andre has with his Lundahl designs?

J

[West]

"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...

Hey, I'm still waiting for you to respond with some facts.

Or will it take you as long as Andre has with his Lundahl designs?

J

Still looking for trouble. Are you not ashamed of yourself? Weicked One said
that I also offered him a truce. Tell you what... I thought there might be
some hope in trusting you. I was wrong, but Peter! His is pathologically
evil and I would never offer him a truce to him because it would be a waste
of time. If the Wiecked One can show a copy of my truce offer that he
claimed I sent him, I will leave RAT forever. If he can not, let him leave.
What a liar and deceiver! It's not too late for you, so why don't you cool
it for a while and I'll forgive you this time for the sake of peace and RAT
restoration. There are so many complaints about these kind of posts. The
record will show that I NEVER start any of this crap, but I'm not totally
free from blame. I'm stupid enough to fall for the bait and at times feel
compelled to defend myself. A few posts ago, in a moment of candor, you kind
of apologized to all for contributing to some of the noise. I was pleased
because it looked like you were turning over a new leaf. What happened???
You attacked me again after the Wiecked One did. Why? It looks like he's the
gang leader and you're a member who is ready and eager to please him. Why
start your crap again? Keep to tube stuff. Sorry to the rest of the Rodents.
Perhaps you have some advice on how I can shake these 2 trouble makers.

Cordially,
west

[Jon Yaeger]

in article %rs1j.6175$ch.117@trnddc03, West at wrote on
11/22/07 11:13 PM:


"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...

Hey, I'm still waiting for you to respond with some facts.

Or will it take you as long as Andre has with his Lundahl designs?

J

Still looking for trouble. Are you not ashamed of yourself? Weicked One said
that I also offered him a truce. Tell you what... I thought there might be
some hope in trusting you. I was wrong, but Peter! His is pathologically
evil and I would never offer him a truce to him because it would be a waste
of time. If the Wiecked One can show a copy of my truce offer that he
claimed I sent him, I will leave RAT forever. If he can not, let him leave.
What a liar and deceiver! It's not too late for you, so why don't you cool
it for a while and I'll forgive you this time for the sake of peace and RAT
restoration. There are so many complaints about these kind of posts. The
record will show that I NEVER start any of this crap, but I'm not totally
free from blame. I'm stupid enough to fall for the bait and at times feel
compelled to defend myself. A few posts ago, in a moment of candor, you kind
of apologized to all for contributing to some of the noise. I was pleased
because it looked like you were turning over a new leaf. What happened???
You attacked me again after the Wiecked One did. Why? It looks like he's the
gang leader and you're a member who is ready and eager to please him. Why
start your crap again? Keep to tube stuff. Sorry to the rest of the Rodents.
Perhaps you have some advice on how I can shake these 2 trouble makers.

Cordially,
west


West,

You've accused me of bad business ethics and I have called you to task to
state the charges. Is this the best you can do?

Your last post was vicious and now you claim to be the victim?

So now you'll "forgive" me?

You are your master's tool, aren't you??

Jon

[Ham]

"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message ...
in article %rs1j.6175$ch.117@trnddc03, West at wrote on
11/22/07 11:13 PM:


"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...

Hey, I'm still waiting for you to respond with some facts.

Or will it take you as long as Andre has with his Lundahl designs?

J

Still looking for trouble. Are you not ashamed of yourself? Weicked One said
that I also offered him a truce. Tell you what... I thought there might be
some hope in trusting you. I was wrong, but Peter! His is pathologically
evil and I would never offer him a truce to him because it would be a waste
of time. If the Wiecked One can show a copy of my truce offer that he
claimed I sent him, I will leave RAT forever. If he can not, let him leave.
What a liar and deceiver! It's not too late for you, so why don't you cool
it for a while and I'll forgive you this time for the sake of peace and RAT
restoration. There are so many complaints about these kind of posts. The
record will show that I NEVER start any of this crap, but I'm not totally
free from blame. I'm stupid enough to fall for the bait and at times feel
compelled to defend myself. A few posts ago, in a moment of candor, you kind
of apologized to all for contributing to some of the noise. I was pleased
because it looked like you were turning over a new leaf. What happened???
You attacked me again after the Wiecked One did. Why? It looks like he's the
gang leader and you're a member who is ready and eager to please him. Why
start your crap again? Keep to tube stuff. Sorry to the rest of the Rodents.
Perhaps you have some advice on how I can shake these 2 trouble makers.

Cordially,
west


West,

You've accused me of bad business ethics and I have called you to task to
state the charges. Is this the best you can do?

Your last post was vicious and now you claim to be the victim?

So now you'll "forgive" me?

You are your master's tool, aren't you??

Or his master's fool.

Jon

[Peter Wieck]

On Nov 23, 6:53 am, Jon Yaeger wrote:

You are your master's tool, aren't you??

Jon, you are micturating up a braided conveyance in West's case. That
individual is fully in the thrall of Andre and thereby a hopeless
case.

I responded to his truce offer with the fable of the Fox and the
Scorpion... do not be his fox.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

[West]

"Peter Wieck" wrote in message
...
On Nov 23, 6:53 am, Jon Yaeger wrote:

You are your master's tool, aren't you??

Jon, you are micturating up a braided conveyance in West's case. That
individual is fully in the thrall of Andre and thereby a hopeless
case.

I responded to his truce offer with the fable of the Fox and the
Scorpion... do not be his fox.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

You are a stone cold faced liar. Sow the proof of my offer and I'll leave
RAT forever. What will you offer this group if you have no evidence of truce
from me?

west

[West]

"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...
in article %rs1j.6175$ch.117@trnddc03, West at wrote on
11/22/07 11:13 PM:


"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...

Hey, I'm still waiting for you to respond with some facts.

Or will it take you as long as Andre has with his Lundahl designs?

J

Still looking for trouble. Are you not ashamed of yourself? Weicked One
said
that I also offered him a truce. Tell you what... I thought there might
be
some hope in trusting you. I was wrong, but Peter! His is pathologically
evil and I would never offer him a truce to him because it would be a
waste
of time. If the Wiecked One can show a copy of my truce offer that he
claimed I sent him, I will leave RAT forever. If he can not, let him
leave.
What a liar and deceiver! It's not too late for you, so why don't you
cool
it for a while and I'll forgive you this time for the sake of peace and
RAT
restoration. There are so many complaints about these kind of posts. The
record will show that I NEVER start any of this crap, but I'm not
totally
free from blame. I'm stupid enough to fall for the bait and at times
feel
compelled to defend myself. A few posts ago, in a moment of candor, you
kind
of apologized to all for contributing to some of the noise. I was
pleased
because it looked like you were turning over a new leaf. What
happened???
You attacked me again after the Wiecked One did. Why? It looks like he's
the
gang leader and you're a member who is ready and eager to please him.
Why
start your crap again? Keep to tube stuff. Sorry to the rest of the
Rodents.
Perhaps you have some advice on how I can shake these 2 trouble makers.

Cordially,
west


West,

You've accused me of bad business ethics and I have called you to task to
state the charges. Is this the best you can do?

Your last post was vicious and now you claim to be the victim?

So now you'll "forgive" me?

You are your master's tool, aren't you??

Jon

If you were not crooked, you wouldn't be so defensive with the same tireless
bs. Many remember when you apologized to me for your admitted indiscretion
and practically begged me to come back after I dropped you as a source for
your "products & services," I accepted the apology and then you pulled the
same crap, so I dropped you permanently. In fact, I'll always will warn
newbies to be very careful when dealing with you.
You and Wiecked have a thing going. He initiates the contact with a newbie
then strongly recommends them to you. What a duo of deception. That's why
most of the time when Wiecked posts, your post follows. Talk about
sockpuppets!

west

[Jon Yaeger]

in article tRG1j.1554$ng.30@trnddc08, West at wrote on
11/23/07 3:36 PM:


"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...
in article %rs1j.6175$ch.117@trnddc03, West at wrote on
11/22/07 11:13 PM:


"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...

Hey, I'm still waiting for you to respond with some facts.

Or will it take you as long as Andre has with his Lundahl designs?

J

Still looking for trouble. Are you not ashamed of yourself? Weicked One
said
that I also offered him a truce. Tell you what... I thought there might
be
some hope in trusting you. I was wrong, but Peter! His is pathologically
evil and I would never offer him a truce to him because it would be a
waste
of time. If the Wiecked One can show a copy of my truce offer that he
claimed I sent him, I will leave RAT forever. If he can not, let him
leave.
What a liar and deceiver! It's not too late for you, so why don't you
cool
it for a while and I'll forgive you this time for the sake of peace and
RAT
restoration. There are so many complaints about these kind of posts. The
record will show that I NEVER start any of this crap, but I'm not
totally
free from blame. I'm stupid enough to fall for the bait and at times
feel
compelled to defend myself. A few posts ago, in a moment of candor, you
kind
of apologized to all for contributing to some of the noise. I was
pleased
because it looked like you were turning over a new leaf. What
happened???
You attacked me again after the Wiecked One did. Why? It looks like he's
the
gang leader and you're a member who is ready and eager to please him.
Why
start your crap again? Keep to tube stuff. Sorry to the rest of the
Rodents.
Perhaps you have some advice on how I can shake these 2 trouble makers.

Cordially,
west


West,

You've accused me of bad business ethics and I have called you to task to
state the charges. Is this the best you can do?

Your last post was vicious and now you claim to be the victim?

So now you'll "forgive" me?

You are your master's tool, aren't you??

Jon

If you were not crooked, you wouldn't be so defensive with the same tireless
bs.

*** If you were not a pathetic asshole, you would not persist with the same
tireless and unproven accusations.

Many remember when you apologized to me for your admitted indiscretion
and practically begged me to come back after I dropped you as a source for
your "products & services,"

*** Au contraire. If you check the archives, you'll note that I publicly
said I couldn't give a **** if you bought anything from me or not. Guess
what: Nothing's changed!

I accepted the apology and then you pulled the
same crap, so I dropped you permanently. In fact, I'll always will warn
newbies to be very careful when dealing with you.

*** Groundless, malicious interference. It's a tort where I come from.
Speaks more to your character -- or rather lack thereof. Too bad I really
don't care. This is a HOBBY to me, not a business. GET IT?

You and Wiecked have a thing going. He initiates the contact with a newbie
then strongly recommends them to you.

*** News to me! Hey Wiecky, how about sending me some business!

What a duo of deception. That's why
most of the time when Wiecked posts, your post follows. Talk about
sockpuppets!

*** Hey, you are just like your idol Jute. You make false accusations, then
refer to your own BS as if it was God's truth. Grow up and wise up.

west

[Ham]

"West" wrote in message news:tRG1j.1554$ng.30@trnddc08...

"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...
in article %rs1j.6175$ch.117@trnddc03, West at wrote on
11/22/07 11:13 PM:


"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...

Hey, I'm still waiting for you to respond with some facts.

Or will it take you as long as Andre has with his Lundahl designs?

J

Still looking for trouble. Are you not ashamed of yourself? Weicked One
said
that I also offered him a truce. Tell you what... I thought there might
be
some hope in trusting you. I was wrong, but Peter! His is pathologically
evil and I would never offer him a truce to him because it would be a
waste
of time. If the Wiecked One can show a copy of my truce offer that he
claimed I sent him, I will leave RAT forever. If he can not, let him
leave.
What a liar and deceiver! It's not too late for you, so why don't you
cool
it for a while and I'll forgive you this time for the sake of peace and
RAT
restoration. There are so many complaints about these kind of posts. The
record will show that I NEVER start any of this crap, but I'm not
totally
free from blame. I'm stupid enough to fall for the bait and at times
feel
compelled to defend myself. A few posts ago, in a moment of candor, you
kind
of apologized to all for contributing to some of the noise. I was
pleased
because it looked like you were turning over a new leaf. What
happened???
You attacked me again after the Wiecked One did. Why? It looks like he's
the
gang leader and you're a member who is ready and eager to please him.
Why
start your crap again? Keep to tube stuff. Sorry to the rest of the
Rodents.
Perhaps you have some advice on how I can shake these 2 trouble makers.

Cordially,
west


West,

You've accused me of bad business ethics and I have called you to task to
state the charges. Is this the best you can do?

Your last post was vicious and now you claim to be the victim?

So now you'll "forgive" me?

You are your master's tool, aren't you??

Jon

If you were not crooked, you wouldn't be so defensive

Great logic, cocksucker! I accuse you of something you're not guilty of,
so you deny it. That denial proves you guilty because if you weren't guilty,
you wouldn't bother denying it whenever I repeat my baseless accusation?

And you DO endlessly repeat your baseless accusations, just like the whore
you adore.

**** off and die, West. You wouldn't know integrity if it chewed your brains up
and spit them out. Maybe it already has.

snip

[Peter Wieck]

On Nov 23, 3:16 pm, "West" wrote:
"Peter Wieck" wrote in message

...

On Nov 23, 6:53 am, Jon Yaeger wrote:

You are your master's tool, aren't you??

Jon, you are micturating up a braided conveyance in West's case. That
individual is fully in the thrall of Andre and thereby a hopeless
case.

I responded to his truce offer with the fable of the Fox and the
Scorpion... do not be his fox.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

You are a stone cold faced liar. Sow the proof of my offer and I'll leave
RAT forever. What will you offer this group if you have no evidence of truce
from me?

west

Do be careful what you wish for:

____________________________________________

Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2007 01:23:00 -0500
Subject: Newbie ST-70 Question
From: West
To:
Message-ID: c0d12dcd0711221341j41cd901do9421a60d4b3a139c@gte. net
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Thread-Index: AcfPRJzg24iZwjs3EdyV4QAKlZUMMg==
X-Email-Type-Id: PP315

Truce?

_________________________________________

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

[Jon Yaeger]

in article
, Peter
Wieck at wrote on 11/23/07 9:12 PM:

On Nov 23, 3:16 pm, "West" wrote:
"Peter Wieck" wrote in message

...

On Nov 23, 6:53 am, Jon Yaeger wrote:

You are your master's tool, aren't you??

Jon, you are micturating up a braided conveyance in West's case. That
individual is fully in the thrall of Andre and thereby a hopeless
case.

I responded to his truce offer with the fable of the Fox and the
Scorpion... do not be his fox.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

You are a stone cold faced liar. Sow the proof of my offer and I'll leave
RAT forever. What will you offer this group if you have no evidence of truce
from me?

west

Do be careful what you wish for:

____________________________________________

Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2007 01:23:00 -0500
Subject: Newbie ST-70 Question
From: West
To:
Message-ID: c0d12dcd0711221341j41cd901do9421a60d4b3a139c@gte. net
Received: GTE.net LLC VZN-VOL-199-180 199.180.7.227 with ESMTP id
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Thread-Index: AcfPRJzg24iZwjs3EdyV4QAKlZUMMg==
X-Email-Type-Id: PP315

Truce?

_________________________________________

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Westley,

Don't let the screen door hit you in the ass.

And take your Boss with you.

Jon

[Ham]

"Peter Wieck" wrote in message ...
On Nov 23, 3:16 pm, "West" wrote:
"Peter Wieck" wrote in message

...

On Nov 23, 6:53 am, Jon Yaeger wrote:

You are your master's tool, aren't you??

Jon, you are micturating up a braided conveyance in West's case. That
individual is fully in the thrall of Andre and thereby a hopeless
case.

I responded to his truce offer with the fable of the Fox and the
Scorpion... do not be his fox.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

You are a stone cold faced liar. Sow the proof of my offer and I'll leave
RAT forever. What will you offer this group if you have no evidence of truce
from me?

west

Do be careful what you wish for:

____________________________________________

Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2007 01:23:00 -0500
Subject: Newbie ST-70 Question
From: West
To:
Message-ID: c0d12dcd0711221341j41cd901do9421a60d4b3a139c@gte. net
Received: GTE.net LLC VZN-VOL-199-180 199.180.7.227 with ESMTP id
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Thread-Topic: Newbie ST-70 Question
Thread-Index: AcfPRJzg24iZwjs3EdyV4QAKlZUMMg==
X-Email-Type-Id: PP315

Truce?

_________________________________________

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Bu-by-by baby by-by...

[West]

Hey Jon, who is this idiot, Ham?

"Ham" wrote in message
...

"West" wrote in message news:tRG1j.1554$ng.30@trnddc08...

"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...
in article %rs1j.6175$ch.117@trnddc03, West at wrote on
11/22/07 11:13 PM:


"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...

Hey, I'm still waiting for you to respond with some facts.

Or will it take you as long as Andre has with his Lundahl designs?

J

Still looking for trouble. Are you not ashamed of yourself? Weicked
One
said
that I also offered him a truce. Tell you what... I thought there
might
be
some hope in trusting you. I was wrong, but Peter! His is
pathologically
evil and I would never offer him a truce to him because it would be a
waste
of time. If the Wiecked One can show a copy of my truce offer that he
claimed I sent him, I will leave RAT forever. If he can not, let him
leave.
What a liar and deceiver! It's not too late for you, so why don't you
cool
it for a while and I'll forgive you this time for the sake of peace
and
RAT
restoration. There are so many complaints about these kind of posts.
The
record will show that I NEVER start any of this crap, but I'm not
totally
free from blame. I'm stupid enough to fall for the bait and at times
feel
compelled to defend myself. A few posts ago, in a moment of candor,
you
kind
of apologized to all for contributing to some of the noise. I was
pleased
because it looked like you were turning over a new leaf. What
happened???
You attacked me again after the Wiecked One did. Why? It looks like
he's
the
gang leader and you're a member who is ready and eager to please him.
Why
start your crap again? Keep to tube stuff. Sorry to the rest of the
Rodents.
Perhaps you have some advice on how I can shake these 2 trouble
makers.

Cordially,
west


West,

You've accused me of bad business ethics and I have called you to task
to
state the charges. Is this the best you can do?

Your last post was vicious and now you claim to be the victim?

So now you'll "forgive" me?

You are your master's tool, aren't you??

Jon

If you were not crooked, you wouldn't be so defensive

Great logic, cocksucker! I accuse you of something you're not guilty of,
so you deny it. That denial proves you guilty because if you weren't
guilty,
you wouldn't bother denying it whenever I repeat my baseless accusation?

And you DO endlessly repeat your baseless accusations, just like the whore
you adore.

**** off and die, West. You wouldn't know integrity if it chewed your
brains up
and spit them out. Maybe it already has.

snip

[Jon Yaeger]

in article eOP1j.6702$ch.4855@trnddc03, West at wrote on
11/24/07 1:47 AM:

Hey Jon, who is this idiot, Ham?



I dunno Westie . . . Apparently, another one of your many admirers.

Say, what about your promise? Shouldn't you be making new friends at
rec.audio.opinion after you said your goodbyes here?

[Ham]

"West" wrote in message news:eOP1j.6702$ch.4855@trnddc03...
Hey Jon, who is this idiot, Ham?

Hey "West", who the **** are you? The real West should be long gone, now that his bluff
has been called.

The real West wrote to Peter Wieck, "You are a stone cold faced liar. Sow the proof of my
offer and I'll leave RAT forever. What will you offer this group if you have no evidence of
truce from me?"

Peter responded by showing exactly the proof West had demanded.


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2007 01:23:00 -0500
Subject: Newbie ST-70 Question
From: West
To:
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Thread-Index: AcfPRJzg24iZwjs3EdyV4QAKlZUMMg==
X-Email-Type-Id: PP315

Truce?

So the real West, being a man of his word, has no doubt left RAT forever just as he promised
he would.

Or would the real West be just another worthless lying son of a bitch, like his master Jute?

This "idiot, Ham" just might be your worst nightmare, West. Do yourself a favor. Like Jon said,
take the whore you adore with you, and don't let the door hit you in the ass as you leave.

[West]

"Ham" wrote in message
...

"West" wrote in message
news:eOP1j.6702$ch.4855@trnddc03...
Hey Jon, who is this idiot, Ham?

Hey "West", who the **** are you? The real West should be long gone, now
that his bluff
has been called.

The real West wrote to Peter Wieck, "You are a stone cold faced liar. Sow
the proof of my
offer and I'll leave RAT forever. What will you offer this group if you
have no evidence of
truce from me?"

Peter responded by showing exactly the proof West had demanded.

And what proof is that? Would you mind pasting it here? I think we all
missed it. The only thing he said is "Be careful what you wish for." Are you
another one of those troublemakers who can not contribute to tube articles,
so you hang in their to cause trouble. I will not bite again because Peter
and Jon may be my nemesis, but at least they have some brains. Your writing
indicates that you are a genuine ASSHOLE and I'm sure most RATs would agree.

west


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2007 01:23:00 -0500
Subject: Newbie ST-70 Question
From: West
To:
Message-ID: c0d12dcd0711221341j41cd901do9421a60d4b3a139c@gte. net
Received: GTE.net LLC VZN-VOL-199-180 199.180.7.227 with ESMTP id
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Thread-Index: AcfPRJzg24iZwjs3EdyV4QAKlZUMMg==
X-Email-Type-Id: PP315

Truce?

So the real West, being a man of his word, has no doubt left RAT forever
just as he promised
he would.

Or would the real West be just another worthless lying son of a bitch,
like his master Jute?

This "idiot, Ham" just might be your worst nightmare, West. Do yourself a
favor. Like Jon said,
take the whore you adore with you, and don't let the door hit you in the
ass as you leave.

[Peter Wieck]

On Nov 25, 10:51 am, "West" wrote:
"Ham" wrote in message

...

"West" wrote in message

news:eOP1j.6702$ch.4855@trnddc03...

Hey Jon, who is this idiot, Ham?

Hey "West", who the **** are you? The real West should be long gone, now
that his bluff
has been called.

The real West wrote to Peter Wieck, "You are a stone cold faced liar. Sow
the proof of my
offer and I'll leave RAT forever. What will you offer this group if you
have no evidence of
truce from me?"

Peter responded by showing exactly the proof West had demanded.

And what proof is that? Would you mind pasting it here? I think we all
missed it.

Only you, it appears:

Do be careful what you wish for:

____________________________________________


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2007 01:23:00 -0500
Subject: Newbie ST-70 Question
From: West
To:
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Received: GTE.net LLC VZN-VOL-199-180 199.180.7.227 with ESMTP id
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Truce?


_________________________________________

But then, one never expects truth from a scorpion.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

[Ham]

"West" wrote in message news:ZRg2j.40724$Pt.36583@trnddc02...

"Ham" wrote in message
...

"West" wrote in message
news:eOP1j.6702$ch.4855@trnddc03...
Hey Jon, who is this idiot, Ham?

Hey "West", who the **** are you? The real West should be long gone, now
that his bluff
has been called.

The real West wrote to Peter Wieck, "You are a stone cold faced liar. Sow
the proof of my
offer and I'll leave RAT forever. What will you offer this group if you
have no evidence of
truce from me?"

Peter responded by showing exactly the proof West had demanded.

And what proof is that? Would you mind pasting it here? I think we all
missed it. The only thing he said is "Be careful what you wish for." Are you
another one of those troublemakers who can not contribute to tube articles,
so you hang in their to cause trouble. I will not bite again because Peter
and Jon may be my nemesis, but at least they have some brains. Your writing
indicates that you are a genuine ASSHOLE and I'm sure most RATs would agree.

west


Ooooooh, Westypoo! Asshole? Moi?

I'm not here to impress the rest of RAT like you and Andre are, Westypoo. I'm
here to run you and your whore Andre out of here, so RAT can get back to being
a place where tube freaks like to hang out. I'm sure most RATs and ex-RATs
would agree that would be a good thing.

You wrote a bad word up there, Westypoo. It's not nice to call someone you
don't know an asshole. So take a walk on the wild side and wash your mouth out
with lye soap and vinegar. It will be an invigorating experience for you, and might
even teach you some manners!

Oh, and the proof you failed to notice, your email offering a truce with Peter, is
still directly below, right in plain sight. Now, be a man and take the hike you
SWORE you would. Real men honor their word, Westypoo.


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2007 01:23:00 -0500
Subject: Newbie ST-70 Question
From: West
To:
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Truce?


So the real West, being a man of his word, has no doubt left RAT forever
just as he promised
he would.

Or would the real West be just another worthless lying son of a bitch,
like his master Jute?

This "idiot, Ham" just might be your worst nightmare, West. Do yourself a
favor. Like Jon said,
take the whore you adore with you, and don't let the door hit you in the
ass as you leave.

[West]

Good luck in running me off. I love challenges like this. Keeps the juices
flowing. The copy of that email is a fraud. Writing a one word email...give
me a break. I'm here to stay sockpuppet. If you had the courage of your
conviction you would use your real name. Obviously you're an instrument of
Wiecked & Crooked. I doubt if you are even real. However, if you are real,
using street vernacular terms as your weapon, shows your ignorance and level
of class.
Is this is your new weapon Wiecked One & Crooked Jon? How pathetic. More
noise for RAT? I thought Iain Churches straighten you out. After you were
admonished by him, you attempted to save face by showing off your knowledge
of OTL and electrostatic loads. That pathetic obfuscating recital was a
classic example of making learned readers ROTF & LTAO.
I have faith that the good guys will prevail and restore this NG. Arise
children of the light and do not be discouraged by those who live in the
dark and seek to destroy all that is good.

Cordially,
west

"Ham" wrote in message
...

"West" wrote in message
news:ZRg2j.40724$Pt.36583@trnddc02...

"Ham" wrote in message
...

"West" wrote in message
news:eOP1j.6702$ch.4855@trnddc03...
Hey Jon, who is this idiot, Ham?

Hey "West", who the **** are you? The real West should be long gone,
now
that his bluff
has been called.

The real West wrote to Peter Wieck, "You are a stone cold faced liar.
Sow
the proof of my
offer and I'll leave RAT forever. What will you offer this group if you
have no evidence of
truce from me?"

Peter responded by showing exactly the proof West had demanded.

And what proof is that? Would you mind pasting it here? I think we all
missed it. The only thing he said is "Be careful what you wish for." Are
you
another one of those troublemakers who can not contribute to tube
articles,
so you hang in their to cause trouble. I will not bite again because
Peter
and Jon may be my nemesis, but at least they have some brains. Your
writing
indicates that you are a genuine ASSHOLE and I'm sure most RATs would
agree.

west


Ooooooh, Westypoo! Asshole? Moi?

I'm not here to impress the rest of RAT like you and Andre are, Westypoo.
I'm
here to run you and your whore Andre out of here, so RAT can get back to
being
a place where tube freaks like to hang out. I'm sure most RATs and
ex-RATs
would agree that would be a good thing.

You wrote a bad word up there, Westypoo. It's not nice to call someone
you
don't know an asshole. So take a walk on the wild side and wash your
mouth out
with lye soap and vinegar. It will be an invigorating experience for you,
and might
even teach you some manners!

Oh, and the proof you failed to notice, your email offering a truce with
Peter, is
still directly below, right in plain sight. Now, be a man and take the
hike you
SWORE you would. Real men honor their word, Westypoo.


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2007 01:23:00 -0500
Subject: Newbie ST-70 Question
From: West
To:
Message-ID: c0d12dcd0711221341j41cd901do9421a60d4b3a139c@gte. net
Received: GTE.net LLC VZN-VOL-199-180 199.180.7.227 with ESMTP id
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Thread-Index: AcfPRJzg24iZwjs3EdyV4QAKlZUMMg==
X-Email-Type-Id: PP315

Truce?


So the real West, being a man of his word, has no doubt left RAT
forever
just as he promised
he would.

Or would the real West be just another worthless lying son of a bitch,
like his master Jute?

This "idiot, Ham" just might be your worst nightmare, West. Do
yourself a
favor. Like Jon said,
take the whore you adore with you, and don't let the door hit you in
the
ass as you leave.

[Jon Yaeger]

West,

You are challenged in other ways . . . e.g. You lace minimal honesty,
integrity, and maturity; and therefore you certainly don't need "challenges
like this" to keep "the juices flowing."

OTOH, I don't have or need a "secret weapon." You bring on derision all by
yourself.

Now go away and play on rec.audio.opinion with the other misanthropes.

You're busted here.

Jon









Good luck in running me off. I love challenges like this. Keeps the juices
flowing. The copy of that email is a fraud. Writing a one word email...give
me a break. I'm here to stay sockpuppet. If you had the courage of your
conviction you would use your real name. Obviously you're an instrument of
Wiecked & Crooked. I doubt if you are even real. However, if you are real,
using street vernacular terms as your weapon, shows your ignorance and level
of class.
Is this is your new weapon Wiecked One & Crooked Jon? How pathetic. More
noise for RAT? I thought Iain Churches straighten you out. After you were
admonished by him, you attempted to save face by showing off your knowledge
of OTL and electrostatic loads. That pathetic obfuscating recital was a
classic example of making learned readers ROTF & LTAO.
I have faith that the good guys will prevail and restore this NG. Arise
children of the light and do not be discouraged by those who live in the
dark and seek to destroy all that is good.

Cordially,
west

[Peter Wieck]

On Nov 25, 7:56 pm, "West" wrote:
Good luck in running me off. I love challenges like this.

So, the stone-cold liar is exposed for what it is.

Westiepoo - when offered a truce by a scorpion, one is well-served to
keep a record. AOL may not archive e-mail past a few weeks, but when I
am faced with a Timmee such as yourself, you bet I do.

So, you have taken the typical expedient of a fraud - when confronted
with evidence, deny its validity. Given that you are the only "other"
party that knows exactly what you did and when you did it, and given
that you "replied-to-author" via the NG so as to reduce the evidence
from your own ISP, it is clear that your habit when faced with
unfortunate consequences of your own actions is to deny, obfuscate and
lie.

We all knew you would never leave anyway - so the exercise is only to
expose you for exactly what you are. Now that that has been
established, you and Andre may go on as before, the jester and the
boss.

It would help if you were to be even the least bit original, by the
way. But even your invective is taken whole-cloth from your hack of a
boss. Perhaps it is not only Andre that needs both a life and his meds
adjusted?

Of course, this puts in entire doubt every representation you have
ever made in this NG - including your alleged cancer, ghetto roots,
daughters at West Point (daughters at all for that matter). And that
you have no "real name" or location makes you that much worse.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

[Ham]

Wow, West, what an idiot you are. Do you really think Peter or Jon would
stoop so low as to invent someone like me?

Oh, wait, of course you do! You would have done the very same thing in a
New York second if only you'd thought of it, wouldn't you have?

Unlike you, however, Peter and Jon have something called integrity. People
with integrity don't need anyone like me or Grey Glass to help them tell it like
it is.

People with integrity also honor their word, West. So be a man, or at least
a big boy, and take your whore and leave.

By the time you get to Phoenix, RAT will be celebrating!

Or if you'd rather, you can leave your whore behind. We'll kick her around a
little and she won't even realize you're gone. She ain't nearly as smart as
she thinks she is, even though she makes you look dumber than a post.

I'm through with you for now, Westypoo. Have a nice life, but please do it
somewhere else. You've been helping Andre destroy RAT, and many will
never forgive you for that. I'll try, but it looks pretty iffy from here...


"West" wrote in message news:QQo2j.31376$9h.29761@trnddc07...
Good luck in running me off. I love challenges like this. Keeps the juices
flowing. The copy of that email is a fraud. Writing a one word email...give
me a break. I'm here to stay sockpuppet. If you had the courage of your
conviction you would use your real name. Obviously you're an instrument of
Wiecked & Crooked. I doubt if you are even real. However, if you are real,
using street vernacular terms as your weapon, shows your ignorance and level
of class.
Is this is your new weapon Wiecked One & Crooked Jon? How pathetic. More
noise for RAT? I thought Iain Churches straighten you out. After you were
admonished by him, you attempted to save face by showing off your knowledge
of OTL and electrostatic loads. That pathetic obfuscating recital was a
classic example of making learned readers ROTF & LTAO.
I have faith that the good guys will prevail and restore this NG. Arise
children of the light and do not be discouraged by those who live in the
dark and seek to destroy all that is good.

Cordially,
west

"Ham" wrote in message
...

"West" wrote in message
news:ZRg2j.40724$Pt.36583@trnddc02...

"Ham" wrote in message
...

"West" wrote in message
news:eOP1j.6702$ch.4855@trnddc03...
Hey Jon, who is this idiot, Ham?

Hey "West", who the **** are you? The real West should be long gone,
now
that his bluff
has been called.

The real West wrote to Peter Wieck, "You are a stone cold faced liar.
Sow
the proof of my
offer and I'll leave RAT forever. What will you offer this group if you
have no evidence of
truce from me?"

Peter responded by showing exactly the proof West had demanded.

And what proof is that? Would you mind pasting it here? I think we all
missed it. The only thing he said is "Be careful what you wish for." Are
you
another one of those troublemakers who can not contribute to tube
articles,
so you hang in their to cause trouble. I will not bite again because
Peter
and Jon may be my nemesis, but at least they have some brains. Your
writing
indicates that you are a genuine ASSHOLE and I'm sure most RATs would
agree.

west


Ooooooh, Westypoo! Asshole? Moi?

I'm not here to impress the rest of RAT like you and Andre are, Westypoo.
I'm
here to run you and your whore Andre out of here, so RAT can get back to
being
a place where tube freaks like to hang out. I'm sure most RATs and
ex-RATs
would agree that would be a good thing.

You wrote a bad word up there, Westypoo. It's not nice to call someone
you
don't know an asshole. So take a walk on the wild side and wash your
mouth out
with lye soap and vinegar. It will be an invigorating experience for you,
and might
even teach you some manners!

Oh, and the proof you failed to notice, your email offering a truce with
Peter, is
still directly below, right in plain sight. Now, be a man and take the
hike you
SWORE you would. Real men honor their word, Westypoo.


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2007 01:23:00 -0500
Subject: Newbie ST-70 Question
From: West
To:
Message-ID: c0d12dcd0711221341j41cd901do9421a60d4b3a139c@gte. net
Received: GTE.net LLC VZN-VOL-199-180 199.180.7.227 with ESMTP id
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Thread-Index: AcfPRJzg24iZwjs3EdyV4QAKlZUMMg==
X-Email-Type-Id: PP315

Truce?


So the real West, being a man of his word, has no doubt left RAT
forever
just as he promised
he would.

Or would the real West be just another worthless lying son of a bitch,
like his master Jute?

This "idiot, Ham" just might be your worst nightmare, West. Do
yourself a
favor. Like Jon said,
take the whore you adore with you, and don't let the door hit you in
the
ass as you leave.

[Jon Yaeger]

Ham,

Ya know, sometimes it's just best to ignore the little kid who's screaming
at the back of the airplane. Ain't nuthin' gonna quiet him down, least of
all reason . . . .

;-)

Jon





in article , Ham at wrote on
11/25/07 9:17 PM:

Wow, West, what an idiot you are. Do you really think Peter or Jon would
stoop so low as to invent someone like me?

Oh, wait, of course you do! You would have done the very same thing in a
New York second if only you'd thought of it, wouldn't you have?

Unlike you, however, Peter and Jon have something called integrity. People
with integrity don't need anyone like me or Grey Glass to help them tell it
like
it is.

People with integrity also honor their word, West. So be a man, or at least
a big boy, and take your whore and leave.

By the time you get to Phoenix, RAT will be celebrating!

Or if you'd rather, you can leave your whore behind. We'll kick her around a
little and she won't even realize you're gone. She ain't nearly as smart as
she thinks she is, even though she makes you look dumber than a post.

I'm through with you for now, Westypoo. Have a nice life, but please do it
somewhere else. You've been helping Andre destroy RAT, and many will
never forgive you for that. I'll try, but it looks pretty iffy from here...


"West" wrote in message news:QQo2j.31376$9h.29761@trnddc07...
Good luck in running me off. I love challenges like this. Keeps the juices
flowing. The copy of that email is a fraud. Writing a one word email...give
me a break. I'm here to stay sockpuppet. If you had the courage of your
conviction you would use your real name. Obviously you're an instrument of
Wiecked & Crooked. I doubt if you are even real. However, if you are real,
using street vernacular terms as your weapon, shows your ignorance and level
of class.
Is this is your new weapon Wiecked One & Crooked Jon? How pathetic. More
noise for RAT? I thought Iain Churches straighten you out. After you were
admonished by him, you attempted to save face by showing off your knowledge
of OTL and electrostatic loads. That pathetic obfuscating recital was a
classic example of making learned readers ROTF & LTAO.
I have faith that the good guys will prevail and restore this NG. Arise
children of the light and do not be discouraged by those who live in the
dark and seek to destroy all that is good.

Cordially,
west

"Ham" wrote in message
...

"West" wrote in message
news:ZRg2j.40724$Pt.36583@trnddc02...

"Ham" wrote in message
...

"West" wrote in message
news:eOP1j.6702$ch.4855@trnddc03...
Hey Jon, who is this idiot, Ham?

Hey "West", who the **** are you? The real West should be long gone,
now
that his bluff
has been called.

The real West wrote to Peter Wieck, "You are a stone cold faced liar.
Sow
the proof of my
offer and I'll leave RAT forever. What will you offer this group if you
have no evidence of
truce from me?"

Peter responded by showing exactly the proof West had demanded.

And what proof is that? Would you mind pasting it here? I think we all
missed it. The only thing he said is "Be careful what you wish for." Are
you
another one of those troublemakers who can not contribute to tube
articles,
so you hang in their to cause trouble. I will not bite again because
Peter
and Jon may be my nemesis, but at least they have some brains. Your
writing
indicates that you are a genuine ASSHOLE and I'm sure most RATs would
agree.

west


Ooooooh, Westypoo! Asshole? Moi?

I'm not here to impress the rest of RAT like you and Andre are, Westypoo.
I'm
here to run you and your whore Andre out of here, so RAT can get back to
being
a place where tube freaks like to hang out. I'm sure most RATs and
ex-RATs
would agree that would be a good thing.

You wrote a bad word up there, Westypoo. It's not nice to call someone
you
don't know an asshole. So take a walk on the wild side and wash your
mouth out
with lye soap and vinegar. It will be an invigorating experience for you,
and might
even teach you some manners!

Oh, and the proof you failed to notice, your email offering a truce with
Peter, is
still directly below, right in plain sight. Now, be a man and take the
hike you
SWORE you would. Real men honor their word, Westypoo.


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2007 01:23:00 -0500
Subject: Newbie ST-70 Question
From: West
To:
Message-ID: c0d12dcd0711221341j41cd901do9421a60d4b3a139c@gte. net
Received: GTE.net LLC VZN-VOL-199-180 199.180.7.227 with ESMTP id
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X-Email-Type-Id: PP315

Truce?


So the real West, being a man of his word, has no doubt left RAT
forever
just as he promised
he would.

Or would the real West be just another worthless lying son of a bitch,
like his master Jute?

This "idiot, Ham" just might be your worst nightmare, West. Do
yourself a
favor. Like Jon said,
take the whore you adore with you, and don't let the door hit you in
the
ass as you leave.

[Andre Jute]

Hmm. It does seem rather too likely that the letter supposedly from
West is a forgery by Worthless Wiecky. We all know Wiecky was sent to
RAT by a certain Philadelphia gang of scumballs who are notorious for
their forgeries. Nor is the internal evidence convincing. If West
wrote that, the single word "Truce?" with the question mark seems to
me a scornful rejection of an offer of truce from Worthless Wiecky. It
is a pattern for Worthless to persecute someone and then to force him
into making an accommodation: the purpose is to make Worthless look
important. Worthless Peter Wieck persecuted me too, and then offered
me a deal (he would stop hounding me if I would stop "prosetylizing"
i.e. he wanted control over my form of expression), which of course I
ignored with the contempt it deserved; I don't negotiate with scum.
Worthless Wiecky would pull the wings off flies to prove that they
buzz irritatingly, and then ponce around claiming to be powerful
because the flies beg for mercy.

Andre Jute
Zero tolerance for Philadelphia Phlegm



Jon Yaeger wrote:

in article
, Peter
Wieck at wrote on 11/23/07 9:12 PM:

On Nov 23, 3:16 pm, "West" wrote:
"Peter Wieck" wrote in message

...

On Nov 23, 6:53 am, Jon Yaeger wrote:

You are your master's tool, aren't you??

Jon, you are micturating up a braided conveyance in West's case. That
individual is fully in the thrall of Andre and thereby a hopeless
case.

I responded to his truce offer with the fable of the Fox and the
Scorpion... do not be his fox.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

You are a stone cold faced liar. Sow the proof of my offer and I'll leave
RAT forever. What will you offer this group if you have no evidence of truce
from me?

west

Do be careful what you wish for:

____________________________________________

Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2007 01:23:00 -0500
Subject: Newbie ST-70 Question
From: West
To:
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Truce?

_________________________________________

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Westley,

Don't let the screen door hit you in the ass.

And take your Boss with you.

Jon

[Peter Wieck]

On Nov 26, 2:45 pm, Andre Jute wrote:
Hmm. It does seem rather too likely that the letter supposedly from
West is a forgery by Worthless Wiecky.

You would dearly like to believe that, would you not?

The problem with incompetent sycophants and severely limited acolytes
is that they are generally more stupid than the "boss" or they would
not be so enthralled by superficial flash and empty glitter. This
leaves westiepoo in a very awkward position of being a proven liar
(let's start with "ghetto roots" and move on from there), you as a
proven liar (let's start with your crap on Peter Drucker and move on
from there) leaving the collective of the both of you pretty much as
good as your words. And as you are the hack writer, your limited gift
of words has about worn out and you are left with nothing but your
typical unsupported speculation as your way of responding to awkward
truths.

Andre, you are getting more and more idiotic as time wears on and your
tricks become hackneyed in addition to being well-known. Please bring
in Gassy, uh, Glassy - it has reached the point where your sockpuppets
have more credibility than you do if only because you use them less.

Westiepoo is caught in a lie. Simple as that. Your last best hope in
this NG blew it. Get it?

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

[Ham]

"Andre Jute" wrote in message ...
Hmm. It does seem rather too likely that the letter supposedly from
West is a forgery by Worthless Wiecky. We all know Wiecky was sent to
RAT by a certain Philadelphia gang of scumballs who are notorious for
their forgeries. Nor is the internal evidence convincing. If West
wrote that, the single word "Truce?" with the question mark seems to
me a scornful rejection of an offer of truce from Worthless Wiecky. It
is a pattern for Worthless to persecute someone and then to force him
into making an accommodation: the purpose is to make Worthless look
important. Worthless Peter Wieck persecuted me too, and then offered
me a deal (he would stop hounding me if I would stop "prosetylizing"
i.e. he wanted control over my form of expression), which of course I
ignored with the contempt it deserved; I don't negotiate with scum.
Worthless Wiecky would pull the wings off flies to prove that they
buzz irritatingly, and then ponce around claiming to be powerful
because the flies beg for mercy.

Andre Jute
Zero tolerance for Philadelphia Phlegm

Zero tolerance for reality.

[Andre Jute]

On Nov 27, 4:14 am, "Ham" wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in ...
Hmm. It does seem rather too likely that the letter supposedly from
West is a forgery by Worthless Wiecky. We all know Wiecky was sent to
RAT by a certain Philadelphia gang of scumballs who are notorious for
their forgeries. Nor is the internal evidence convincing. If West
wrote that, the single word "Truce?" with the question mark seems to
me a scornful rejection of an offer of truce from Worthless Wiecky. It
is a pattern for Worthless to persecute someone and then to force him
into making an accommodation: the purpose is to make Worthless look
important. Worthless Peter Wieck persecuted me too, and then offered
me a deal (he would stop hounding me if I would stop "prosetylizing"
i.e. he wanted control over my form of expression), which of course I
ignored with the contempt it deserved; I don't negotiate with scum.
Worthless Wiecky would pull the wings off flies to prove that they
buzz irritatingly, and then ponce around claiming to be powerful
because the flies beg for mercy.

Andre Jute
Zero tolerance for Philadelphia Phlegm

Zero tolerance for reality.

You'll have to do better than that, Hambone Jambone, or you'll end up
in my killfile with the rest of the redneck scum.

Andre Jute
Of course the rednecks have networking: it's called incest

[Ham]

You're a horses ass, Jute, and everything you write is horse****.

So plonk me, HA. Then only everyone else on RAT will see me noting
that everything you write is horse****. You'll never even suspect.

[West]

It's no wonder you and Wiecked are unemployed. Both of you need to get a
life and stop letting your wives be the bread winners. If you become
gainfully employed again, your self esteems will rise and the mindless
postings on RAT will strangely diminish. GET A LIFE! .. and take this ugly
ankle nipping barking dog (pork, er, I mean ham) with you.

west
BTW: How's that Boss? You want me to take care of anymore of your light
stuff for ya? Lemme know. These bricks are gettin heavy.

"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...
Ham,

Ya know, sometimes it's just best to ignore the little kid who's screaming
at the back of the airplane. Ain't nuthin' gonna quiet him down, least of
all reason . . . .

;-)

Jon





in article , Ham at wrote
on
11/25/07 9:17 PM:

Wow, West, what an idiot you are. Do you really think Peter or Jon
would
stoop so low as to invent someone like me?

Oh, wait, of course you do! You would have done the very same thing in
a
New York second if only you'd thought of it, wouldn't you have?

Unlike you, however, Peter and Jon have something called integrity.
People
with integrity don't need anyone like me or Grey Glass to help them tell
it
like
it is.

People with integrity also honor their word, West. So be a man, or at
least
a big boy, and take your whore and leave.

By the time you get to Phoenix, RAT will be celebrating!

Or if you'd rather, you can leave your whore behind. We'll kick her
around a
little and she won't even realize you're gone. She ain't nearly as
smart as
she thinks she is, even though she makes you look dumber than a post.

I'm through with you for now, Westypoo. Have a nice life, but please do
it
somewhere else. You've been helping Andre destroy RAT, and many will
never forgive you for that. I'll try, but it looks pretty iffy from
here...


"West" wrote in message
news:QQo2j.31376$9h.29761@trnddc07...
Good luck in running me off. I love challenges like this. Keeps the
juices
flowing. The copy of that email is a fraud. Writing a one word
email...give
me a break. I'm here to stay sockpuppet. If you had the courage of your
conviction you would use your real name. Obviously you're an instrument
of
Wiecked & Crooked. I doubt if you are even real. However, if you are
real,
using street vernacular terms as your weapon, shows your ignorance and
level
of class.
Is this is your new weapon Wiecked One & Crooked Jon? How pathetic.
More
noise for RAT? I thought Iain Churches straighten you out. After you
were
admonished by him, you attempted to save face by showing off your
knowledge
of OTL and electrostatic loads. That pathetic obfuscating recital was a
classic example of making learned readers ROTF & LTAO.
I have faith that the good guys will prevail and restore this NG. Arise
children of the light and do not be discouraged by those who live in
the
dark and seek to destroy all that is good.

Cordially,
west

"Ham" wrote in message
...

"West" wrote in message
news:ZRg2j.40724$Pt.36583@trnddc02...

"Ham" wrote in message
...

"West" wrote in message
news:eOP1j.6702$ch.4855@trnddc03...
Hey Jon, who is this idiot, Ham?

Hey "West", who the **** are you? The real West should be long
gone,
now
that his bluff
has been called.

The real West wrote to Peter Wieck, "You are a stone cold faced
liar.
Sow
the proof of my
offer and I'll leave RAT forever. What will you offer this group if
you
have no evidence of
truce from me?"

Peter responded by showing exactly the proof West had demanded.

And what proof is that? Would you mind pasting it here? I think we
all
missed it. The only thing he said is "Be careful what you wish for."
Are
you
another one of those troublemakers who can not contribute to tube
articles,
so you hang in their to cause trouble. I will not bite again because
Peter
and Jon may be my nemesis, but at least they have some brains. Your
writing
indicates that you are a genuine ASSHOLE and I'm sure most RATs would
agree.

west


Ooooooh, Westypoo! Asshole? Moi?

I'm not here to impress the rest of RAT like you and Andre are,
Westypoo.
I'm
here to run you and your whore Andre out of here, so RAT can get back
to
being
a place where tube freaks like to hang out. I'm sure most RATs and
ex-RATs
would agree that would be a good thing.

You wrote a bad word up there, Westypoo. It's not nice to call
someone
you
don't know an asshole. So take a walk on the wild side and wash your
mouth out
with lye soap and vinegar. It will be an invigorating experience for
you,
and might
even teach you some manners!

Oh, and the proof you failed to notice, your email offering a truce
with
Peter, is
still directly below, right in plain sight. Now, be a man and take
the
hike you
SWORE you would. Real men honor their word, Westypoo.


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2007 01:23:00 -0500
Subject: Newbie ST-70 Question
From: West
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Truce?


So the real West, being a man of his word, has no doubt left RAT
forever
just as he promised
he would.

Or would the real West be just another worthless lying son of a
bitch,
like his master Jute?

This "idiot, Ham" just might be your worst nightmare, West. Do
yourself a
favor. Like Jon said,
take the whore you adore with you, and don't let the door hit you in
the
ass as you leave.

[Peter Wieck]

On Nov 29, 1:02 pm, "West" wrote:
It's no wonder you and Wiecked are unemployed.

Jon:

Is this you again? If this is the "real" West (who now apparently
claims to be from Tampa) he is even more delusional than earlier.

The "bricks" he is carrying must be between his ears.

Westiepoo, I expect I clear more in a week than you have ever grossed
in your best month ever. One thing about being a "janitor" is that
one's skills never go out of demand, style or value.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

[Jon Yaeger]

in article
, Peter
Wieck at wrote on 11/29/07 1:08 PM:

On Nov 29, 1:02 pm, "West" wrote:
It's no wonder you and Wiecked are unemployed.

Jon:

Is this you again? If this is the "real" West (who now apparently
claims to be from Tampa) he is even more delusional than earlier.

The "bricks" he is carrying must be between his ears.

Westiepoo, I expect I clear more in a week than you have ever grossed
in your best month ever. One thing about being a "janitor" is that
one's skills never go out of demand, style or value.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


No, Peter, the only sockpuppet I've played with is Gray Glasser, just to let
Andre know that 2 can play his game. That's all.

I'm done with West. For obvious reasons.

Jon

[West]

"Jon Yaeger" wrote in message
...
in article
, Peter
Wieck at wrote on 11/29/07 1:08 PM:

On Nov 29, 1:02 pm, "West" wrote:
It's no wonder you and Wiecked are unemployed.

Jon:

Is this you again? If this is the "real" West (who now apparently
claims to be from Tampa) he is even more delusional than earlier.

The "bricks" he is carrying must be between his ears.

Westiepoo, I expect I clear more in a week than you have ever grossed
in your best month ever. One thing about being a "janitor" is that
one's skills never go out of demand, style or value.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


No, Peter, the only sockpuppet I've played with is Gray Glasser, just to
let
Andre know that 2 can play his game. That's all.

I'm done with West. For obvious reasons.

Jon

Don't leave me Jonnie. I don't know what I'll do without you sniff.
BTW Gray is a man of utmost and irrefutable integrity.
BTW2: Wieckie ... I didn't know you get paid for being a professional
troller and how do you know how much I make? Blatant statements just flow so
easy from your wrathful keyboard. Don't you care about making a fool out of
yourself?

[West]

"Peter Wieck" wrote in message
...
On Nov 29, 1:02 pm, "West" wrote:
It's no wonder you and Wiecked are unemployed.

Jon:

Is this you again? If this is the "real" West (who now apparently
claims to be from Tampa) he is even more delusional than earlier.

The "bricks" he is carrying must be between his ears.

Westiepoo, I expect I clear more in a week than you have ever grossed
in your best month ever. One thing about being a "janitor" is that
one's skills never go out of demand, style or value.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Who said I'm from Tampa? These obfuscating lies just flow so easy from your
keyboard.

west

[Peter Wieck]

On Nov 29, 3:10 pm, "West" wrote:
"Peter Wieck" wrote in message

...





On Nov 29, 1:02 pm, "West" wrote:
It's no wonder you and Wiecked are unemployed.

Jon:

Is this you again? If this is the "real" West (who now apparently
claims to be from Tampa) he is even more delusional than earlier.

The "bricks" he is carrying must be between his ears.

Westiepoo, I expect I clear more in a week than you have ever grossed
in your best month ever. One thing about being a "janitor" is that
one's skills never go out of demand, style or value.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Who said I'm from Tampa? These obfuscating lies just flow so easy from your
keyboard.

west- Hide quoted text -

.. West View profile
I was wondering how can I watch Yankee games next season. I live in
the Tampa Bay area. Is the YES network available? Thanks. west
Hide options Oct 15, 10:38 pm

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From: "West"
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:38:28 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 15 2007 10:38 pm
Subject: YES Network
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I was wondering how can I watch Yankee games next season. I live in
the
Tampa Bay area. Is the YES network available? Thanks.

west


Only you.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

[West]

"Peter Wieck" wrote in message
...
On Nov 29, 3:10 pm, "West" wrote:
"Peter Wieck" wrote in message


...





On Nov 29, 1:02 pm, "West" wrote:
It's no wonder you and Wiecked are unemployed.

Jon:

Is this you again? If this is the "real" West (who now apparently
claims to be from Tampa) he is even more delusional than earlier.

The "bricks" he is carrying must be between his ears.

Westiepoo, I expect I clear more in a week than you have ever grossed
in your best month ever. One thing about being a "janitor" is that
one's skills never go out of demand, style or value.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Who said I'm from Tampa? These obfuscating lies just flow so easy from
your
keyboard.

west- Hide quoted text -

. West View profile
I was wondering how can I watch Yankee games next season. I live in
the Tampa Bay area. Is the YES network available? Thanks. west
Hide options Oct 15, 10:38 pm

Newsgroups: alt.sports.baseball.ny-yankees
From: "West"
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:38:28 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 15 2007 10:38 pm
Subject: YES Network
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I was wondering how can I watch Yankee games next season. I live in
the
Tampa Bay area. Is the YES network available? Thanks.

west


Only you.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

This time I have to take my hat off to you. There are net stalkers and there
are net stalkers, but you are the King. I shall hence forth be a bit
paranoid when I visit any NG. How do you find the time for all this activity
and still make all the money you claim to make (another tip of my hat)? I'm
glad that you are not my enemy but I'm even more glad that the Boss is not
my enemy, well ... either way... getting killed is getting killed.

west

[Peter Wieck]

On Nov 29, 9:28 pm, "West" wrote:

This time I have to take my hat off to you. There are net stalkers and there
are net stalkers, but you are the King. I shall hence forth be a bit
paranoid when I visit any NG.

Westiepoo, westiepoo, westiepoo...

You think this takes *time*? You really are stupidly naive. Just do a
search on your own profile, and damned near every post you made is
right out there to be found. Add a couple of parameters, and even you
can drill right down into the errors and omissions at which you are so
practiced. No stalking required or intended. But it does make exposing
a liar and an idiot such as you one of the more simple tasks, far
simpler than attempting to be helpful to an individual who asked a
pretty straightforward transformer question. THAT took all of about 5
minutes to research and write.

As the poet wrote: Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we
practice to deceive (and 't'weren't no how Shakespeare). It takes more
intelligence than you apparently have at your command to keep your
lies straight. Just stop doing it and you will be happier for it. Then
you don't have to look like an idiot with such startling regularity.
Why pretend that you are anything other than a pillock? By being right
up front about it, you can be a happy pillock. That would at the very
least be an improvement over your present condition.

Again, being a "janitor" grants absolute job security. There are
always jackasses (with apologies to the hooved variety) like you
making little messes wherever they go that require attention and
removal. And there is really good money in doing well what others fear
or don't like to do at all.

Not your Enemy - in that you are absolutely correct. Neither you nor
your 'boss' nor his assembled sockpuppets are worth that sort of
sustained effort, collectively or severally. Mosquitoes are not my
enemies. But I do swat them nonetheless when they annoy me and get
within range. With about the same emotional investment in their
welfare.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

[Andre Jute]

Actually, Westley, you're the most powerful guy on RAT. You can choose
to empower these two bullies Worthless Peter Wieck and Jon Yaeger --
or not to empower them. No one believes or will ever believe a word
they say about you; you can safely ignore them. But when you respond,
you feed them the oxygen they need to assault you again. Notice how I
ignore Wieck altogether as simply beneath contempt, leaving him
looking foolishly obsessed for all his carping on me, and acknowledge
Yaeger only when he serves some purpose of my own (usually that he is
so clumsy in defense of Pasternack that he does poor old Porno Plod
great damage).

The garage vermin Jon Yaeger, Worthless Peter Wieck, Poopie Stevenson,
their new little bullyboy chum, Douglas Multi-grid, are inferior
through and through. They do not even come up to your ankles.
Overlooking them is easy once you overcome your inherent courtesy and
stop looking down to their every wittering.

Andre Jute
Oh the peace, the peace and the quiet

[West]

You would have to demonstrate where I stated that I was from a place other
then Tampa to prove that I lied about being from Tampa. Again, your writings
are akin to a male peacock strutting its feathers. All ostentatious with no
actual facts, all design to deceive the readership. One thing for certain is
that you must have much hatred in your heart. Those close to you must share
a heavy burden. Hope you eventually find peace.

west
BTW: I am from Tampa, never said otherwise.

"Peter Wieck" wrote in message
...
On Nov 29, 9:28 pm, "West" wrote:

This time I have to take my hat off to you. There are net stalkers and
there
are net stalkers, but you are the King. I shall hence forth be a bit
paranoid when I visit any NG.

Westiepoo, westiepoo, westiepoo...

You think this takes *time*? You really are stupidly naive. Just do a
search on your own profile, and damned near every post you made is
right out there to be found. Add a couple of parameters, and even you
can drill right down into the errors and omissions at which you are so
practiced. No stalking required or intended. But it does make exposing
a liar and an idiot such as you one of the more simple tasks, far
simpler than attempting to be helpful to an individual who asked a
pretty straightforward transformer question. THAT took all of about 5
minutes to research and write.

As the poet wrote: Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we
practice to deceive (and 't'weren't no how Shakespeare). It takes more
intelligence than you apparently have at your command to keep your
lies straight. Just stop doing it and you will be happier for it. Then
you don't have to look like an idiot with such startling regularity.
Why pretend that you are anything other than a pillock? By being right
up front about it, you can be a happy pillock. That would at the very
least be an improvement over your present condition.

Again, being a "janitor" grants absolute job security. There are
always jackasses (with apologies to the hooved variety) like you
making little messes wherever they go that require attention and
removal. And there is really good money in doing well what others fear
or don't like to do at all.

Not your Enemy - in that you are absolutely correct. Neither you nor
your 'boss' nor his assembled sockpuppets are worth that sort of
sustained effort, collectively or severally. Mosquitoes are not my
enemies. But I do swat them nonetheless when they annoy me and get
within range. With about the same emotional investment in their
welfare.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

[Peter Wieck]

On Nov 30, 5:34 pm, "West" wrote:
You would have to demonstrate where I stated that I was from a place other
then Tampa to prove that I lied about being from Tampa. Again, your writings
are akin to a male peacock strutting its feathers. All ostentatious with no
actual facts, all design to deceive the readership. One thing for certain is
that you must have much hatred in your heart. Those close to you must share
a heavy burden. Hope you eventually find peace.

west
BTW: I am from Tampa, never said otherwise.

Westiepoo, westiepoo, westiepoo...

Or should it be pillock, pillock, pillock...

You are the one who claimed that I lied:

Newsgroups: rec.audio.tubes
From: "West"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:10:58 GMT
Local: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 3:10 pm
Subject: Ping West
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Who said I'm from Tampa? These obfuscating lies just flow so easy from
your
keyboard.

west

Your posts have gotten neither any better nor more coherent than they
were yesterday.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA