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"Hev" wrote in message ... "Scott Dorsey" wrote in message ... hev wrote: "hank alrich" wrote in message hev wrote: It is the culmination of the actions of the industry You competently demonstrate the lack of personal responsibility that is presently a disease in America. The situation is actually no deeper than that, and technology has nothing to do with it. You cannot control yourself and for that you seek to blame something other than yourself. The word for that is "pathetic". If you didn't protest the way the industry behaved before p2p was around you have absolutely NO RIGHT to criticize anyone now. Uhh... hev.... do you have any idea who you're talking to? I am supposed to? Probably not. Actually, it's pretty obvious that you don't. |
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"Hev" wrote in message ... "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message news:825Xd.81635$wc.977@trnddc07... "hev" wrote in message news:sa4Xd.81599$wc.26369@trnddc07... "hank alrich" wrote in message .. . hev wrote: It is the culmination of the actions of the industry You competently demonstrate the lack of personal responsibility that is presently a disease in America. The situation is actually no deeper than that, and technology has nothing to do with it. You cannot control yourself and for that you seek to blame something other than yourself. The word for that is "pathetic". If you didn't protest the way the industry behaved before p2p was around you have absolutely NO RIGHT to criticize anyone now. Totally inept response. Criticism is a far cry from theft... but I see you have now added a fourth category to your crutches for rationalizing theft. Congratulations, the hole you are digging for yourself in defense of undefendable excuses for thievery is growing deeper. Haha. Indeed I am. Our generation just doesn't give a **** I guess. Still blaming it on everyone else until the last minute, eh? Think about the hideous stuff on MTV... clear channel sucking the life out of radio. Capitalism shoved down our throat since before we could speak by large corporations who don't have our best interests at heart. I think most people hate that the artists aren't getting paid, but feel no sympathy whatsoever for most of the industry. Hopefully the record labels will find a new model that works in the digital era and this will all be like a bad dream. Indeed. We agree on something once more. I have been playing a bit of devils advocate in this thread but I do think file sharing is a great technology. Ooooh.... Now it's the work of the Devil, huh? Devine revelation there, hev, or are you discovering that your conscience really lives inside you and will always remember even when you've forgotten? Life is strange - sometimes it takes a lot of years to see things clearly. For what it is worth I have removed my music files from the public. That's odd.... you told us earlier that you only downloaded files; that you never ripped or made files available to others ! I admit it, you got to me. I really have supported the industry with a lotta dough in my time, so hopefully this will all be history soon... whatever the solution may be. Changing your ISP ? ;-) -- David Morgan (MAMS) http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com Morgan Audio Media Service Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901 _______________________________________ http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com |
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"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message
news:0B5Xd.81651$wc.56176@trnddc07... Ooooh.... Now it's the work of the Devil, huh? Devine revelation there, hev, or are you discovering that your conscience really lives inside you and will always remember even when you've forgotten? Life is strange - sometimes it takes a lot of years to see things clearly. Sorry, not religious private. I want artists to be paid. I wish I could bypass those inbetween. For what it is worth I have removed my music files from the public. That's odd.... you told us earlier that you only downloaded files; that you never ripped or made files available to others ! I've never ripped CD's into mp3's. I have made the mp3's I have downloaded available to others. I never said I didn't. I've removed them. Happy now? Only 200 million to go.... ;-) -- -Hev remove your opinion to find me he www.michaelYOURspringerOPINION.com |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
news:znr1110234529k@trad... In article writes: Um, SACD anyone? Hev gets a player, plays the music out analog, converts to MP3, and the rest will be his story. No, Hev is too busy to do that. He'll wait for someone else of his generation to do it. *ba dum, shhhhhh* Ever try stand up Rivers? -- -Hev remove your opinion to find me he www.michaelYOURspringerOPINION.com |
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Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: X-Abuse-Info: Please forward a copy of all headers for proper handling X-Trace: npbhgpngjbkmjfegdbdpiflmbcekedmfhojhikkbagflhcboep aojkdploelnaogdillphahkfobdkeohnngokmiimibbdiiffnc gfnojaonepigoeeifleajbajgfpihalecoflkblhlgdinnpbhh japgcojabh NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 09:54:14 EST Organization: BellSouth Internet Service Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 14:54:14 GMT Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com rec.audio.pro:1156656 On 2005-03-08 said: But if an independ artist (or even a major record lable) puts up some free samples on his web site, it would be even better publicity if people passed around a link to the web site rather than just a copy of the music. That way someone who liked the music wouldn't have to try to figure out who it was and find the web site to buy the CD (assuming it wasn't so popular that he couldn't miss it in a store). My thoughts dovetail with Mike's here. iF you buy my cd at a gig I don't want you just making your favorite tune available on P2p. rip it burn yourself a copy or take a song or two you like for your own compilation to listen to in the car or in your portable player but making it available for free is something y ou don't have the right to do nor my permission. Just like the day when you won't run software off of your hard drive, instead we will run software located on the net. Someone proposed that once, but it didn't pan out. The idea was that you subscribed and could run the software until your subscription ran out - just like a membership porn web site. I never liked that idea. I saw plenty of problems with this and was glad that ludicrous idea never took off. Richard Webb, Electric SPider Productions, New Orleans, La. REplace anything before the @ symbol with elspider for real email -- |
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"Hev" wrote in message ... "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message news:Hg5Xd.81640$wc.71190@trnddc07... "Hev" wrote in message... I buy just as many CD's as I ever have. Which you've clearly stated earlier, is practically none. You're what, 23 or 24 years old now (?) and stated that you own approximately 300 CDs. That equals roughly 1/4 of a CD per week of your lifetime, or roughly one CD per living month since birth. Remember the cassette? Absolutely... one of the longest lasting consumer formats next to vinyl. And did you really expect me to buy music when I was two years old? Lol. No. But as long as you've mentioned it, that's about the same time that cassettes & vinyl started being replaced by CDs. It would be nice to think this conversation has actually affected the way you think, because noting that you haven't blatantly lied to us yet might, mean that you actually.... nah... nevermind. g DM |
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"David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message
news:h46Xd.74851$Dc.51079@trnddc06... "Hev" wrote in message ... "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote in message news:Hg5Xd.81640$wc.71190@trnddc07... "Hev" wrote in message... I buy just as many CD's as I ever have. Which you've clearly stated earlier, is practically none. You're what, 23 or 24 years old now (?) and stated that you own approximately 300 CDs. That equals roughly 1/4 of a CD per week of your lifetime, or roughly one CD per living month since birth. Remember the cassette? Absolutely... one of the longest lasting consumer formats next to vinyl. And did you really expect me to buy music when I was two years old? Lol. No. But as long as you've mentioned it, that's about the same time that cassettes & vinyl started being replaced by CDs. It would be nice to think this conversation has actually affected the way you think, because noting that you haven't blatantly lied to us yet might, mean that you actually.... nah... nevermind. g Yes, you have affected me. I still feel there is a solution on the horizon that doesn't shun the p2p community. I think the industry and files online will coexist. So humility isn't something that comes with age? g -- -Hev remove your opinion to find me he www.michaelYOURspringerOPINION.com |
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I live in Vancouver and never heard of this
play on wrote in message ... Believe it. It was widely reported locally as the Blaine border crossing is about 80 miles from here. Al On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 15:55:16 GMT, "Troy" wrote: I don't beleive that. play on wrote in message .. . On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 05:04:30 GMT, Ben Bradley wrote: For some interesting reading, Google for this: war on drugs asset forfeiture and read any or all of the articles returned on the first page. There was a local Seattle man who lost his Porche... when driving into Canada, the authorities found a roach that his son had left a gym bag that was sitting in the back seat. They seized a $40,000 car over about $1 worth of pot. Al |
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#1092
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Mike ......There are no guilty people in jail either.Just ask any of them
and they will tell you they are innocent :-) Mike Rivers wrote in message news:znr1110233418k@trad... In article 8l1Xd.42029$uc.21623@trnddc01 writes: Just like I know the people who smoke pot don't consider themselves criminals, people who download don't either. You don't have to consider yourself a criminal in order to be one. But once you're told that you are, you should know that you are. What you do is your own business, and you should be prepared for the consequences if you're caught. Unfortunately the consequences for downloading have been meaningless enough so that it's worth taking the chance of getting caught. Around here there are people who regularly park illegaly every day and consider that the five or six tickets a month that they get are cheaper than paying for a parking space in a garage. As long as they pay the fines, everybody's happy. Seems to me that what they should do is boot the car when they see a pattern of continued violation. Either that or make the fine $500 instead of $50. Until they make the penalty for possessing stolent intellectual propery heavy enough to matter, prosecuting downloaders will continue to be a non-solution. -- I'm really Mike Rivers ) However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over, lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring and reach me he double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo |
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#1093
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"Kurt Albershardt" wrote in message ... I think the long term solution would be to move to some disc format that PC's don't easily play, but could be licensed to electronics manufacturers for DVD players. Um, SACD anyone? Or DVD-A, I don't believe there are any PC drives supporting either. My impression is that the industry is concerned about which one of the formats to push and when to do it. jb |
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"hev" Just like I know the people who smoke pot don't consider themselves criminals, people who download don't either. Then they're ignorant. They need to learn about where the money goes. I've said it before, p2p and illegal downloading will never really go away, but this endless moralizing is silly. Of course it is stealing. As if you wrote a thesis, and a friend stole it. It's not right. jb |
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Hev wrote:
"George Gleason" wrote in message ... hev wrote: "Lorin David Schultz" wrote in message news:PO3Xd.5812$i6.1106@edtnps90... "hev" wrote: Can you back that up with a link? "Lorin David Schultz" wrote: Probably, but talk about irrelevant... "It *MUST* be true... I read it on the internet!" "Hev" wrote: Didn't think so. Fine, he http://www.v5v.ca/truth.htm Cute. In the era of price fixing, contracts that screw artists over and the industry seeking a monopoly strangle hold of the market THIS is the best that you can come up with? It seems your guilty on all fronts your screwing artists out of income from the sales of their CD's you have instituted a price fixing scheme at 0$ and you are subverting the artists contracts with your own twisted ideas in effect creating a stranglehold on the market that renders music worthless So you wrote letters? Protested the labels when this was happening in the 80's and 90's? Where the hell were you guys then? on tour with the Dead, who encouraged the free exchange of live show tapes, had over 350 at one point george |
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:12:07 GMT, Ben Bradley
wrote: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:06:10 -0800, play on wrote: Believe it. It was widely reported locally as the Blaine border crossing is about 80 miles from here. I googled for that particular story and didn't find it, but in looking I found this: It's been a few years since that incident. Did you see this? http://www.marijuananews.com/marijua..._the_cocai.htm http://www.pdxnorml.org/980326.html "U.S. CUSTOMS BLITZES BORDER IN DRUG HUNT" ... Drivers who are apprehended risk having their cars seized. To get around that, they often drive rented or leased cars, DeFries said. "They're not stupid," DeFries said. "They know if they drive their fancy Porsche, they'll lose it, so they don't drive it. They drive a throw-away car. It's the price of doing business; they lose the junker." Al On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 15:55:16 GMT, "Troy" wrote: I don't beleive that. play on wrote in message ... On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 05:04:30 GMT, Ben Bradley wrote: For some interesting reading, Google for this: war on drugs asset forfeiture and read any or all of the articles returned on the first page. There was a local Seattle man who lost his Porche... when driving into Canada, the authorities found a roach that his son had left a gym bag that was sitting in the back seat. They seized a $40,000 car over about $1 worth of pot. Al ----- http://mindspring.com/~benbradley |
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 04:46:55 GMT, George Gleason
wrote: Hev wrote: "George Gleason" wrote in message ... hev wrote: "Lorin David Schultz" wrote in message news:PO3Xd.5812$i6.1106@edtnps90... "hev" wrote: Can you back that up with a link? "Lorin David Schultz" wrote: Probably, but talk about irrelevant... "It *MUST* be true... I read it on the internet!" "Hev" wrote: Didn't think so. Fine, he http://www.v5v.ca/truth.htm Cute. In the era of price fixing, contracts that screw artists over and the industry seeking a monopoly strangle hold of the market THIS is the best that you can come up with? It seems your guilty on all fronts your screwing artists out of income from the sales of their CD's you have instituted a price fixing scheme at 0$ and you are subverting the artists contracts with your own twisted ideas in effect creating a stranglehold on the market that renders music worthless So you wrote letters? Protested the labels when this was happening in the 80's and 90's? Where the hell were you guys then? on tour with the Dead, who encouraged the free exchange of live show tapes, had over 350 at one point And I bet they also were (are) totally behind the distribution of their music on the internet. Al |
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:57:53 GMT, George Gleason
wrote: play on wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:34:45 -0500, (Mike Rivers) wrote: In article writes: The latest Newsweek has convicted criminal Martha Stewart on the cover, which also trumpets how she is wealthier than ever since her company stock has reached new highs. What kind of message does this send? That her company does better with her out of the way, in jail. Just like record companies would do better with music pirates out of the way, in jail. Unlike yourself I'm not so sure that prosecuting and harrasing the fans who are the exact target market is the solution. Al These are NOT fans FANS respect and support their artists these are thiefs and scumbags as a artist myself I can state the artists is better off without them George They are fans George... your saying they are not doesn't mean it's true. Al |
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:15:51 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
wrote: "Hev" wrote in message... I buy just as many CD's as I ever have. Which you've clearly stated earlier, is practically none. You're what, 23 or 24 years old now (?) and stated that you own approximately 300 CDs. That equals roughly 1/4 of a CD per week of your lifetime, or roughly one CD per living month since birth. Come on... give it a rest. 300 CDs is over $4000 worth of music, that's a pretty good amount for someone his age. I'm certain I didn't own that many LPs when I was in my mid-20s. Al |
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 03:03:44 GMT, "Troy"
wrote: I live in Vancouver and never heard of this That's not my fault... why do you think I am lying about it? It is not an urban legend, I read it in the Seattle Times I beleive. I think that it happened right after they made the seziure thing legal, whenever that was, in the late 90s? Al play on wrote in message .. . Believe it. It was widely reported locally as the Blaine border crossing is about 80 miles from here. Al On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 15:55:16 GMT, "Troy" wrote: I don't beleive that. play on wrote in message .. . On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 05:04:30 GMT, Ben Bradley wrote: For some interesting reading, Google for this: war on drugs asset forfeiture and read any or all of the articles returned on the first page. There was a local Seattle man who lost his Porche... when driving into Canada, the authorities found a roach that his son had left a gym bag that was sitting in the back seat. They seized a $40,000 car over about $1 worth of pot. Al |
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"George Gleason" wrote in message
... So you wrote letters? Protested the labels when this was happening in the 80's and 90's? Where the hell were you guys then? on tour with the Dead, who encouraged the free exchange of live show tapes, had over 350 at one point I've always loved the Dead's live tape ethic. One of my favorite bands, Sonic Youth, has that live taping ethic as well. And my good (drinking) buddy in college was a dirty hippie who had traveled with the Dead. He took me along to a hippie show once... old hippy twisting on the table-top and passing it around. Every MF in the house.... I mean every MF was dancing. Being used to punk/indie shows from the east it was quite the experience. Remember, you hippies taught us free love and sesame street taught us to share. -- -Hev remove your opinion to find me he www.michaelYOURspringerOPINION.com |
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 22:00:56 GMT, "hev"
wrote: If you didn't protest the way the industry behaved before p2p was around you have absolutely NO RIGHT to criticize anyone now. OK, so let's say I did "protest the way the industry behaved before p2p was around"... Now what? I have been granted the right to criticize now? Well... if under those circumstances I do criticize, that means exactly WHAT to you? That changes everything? You will say "Oh, _now_ I see what you're trying to say!"? Hey, unlike a few others, I do understand some of the points you are attempting to make concerning the current state of this issue... however, we disagree on many of the precursory factors leading to that state, and that's OK in that often folks will draw differing conclusions when presented with seemingly the same information. That being said, you have participated in the action, rather than just report what your impression is of your peers' attitude towards that action. This somewhat dilutes your objectivity as perceived by those in opposition of your views. Add to that the above statement you made... I can equate that emotionalized statement by telling "the Story of Chuck and Pam". =============== Chuck is 8 years old; Pam, his sister, is 10 years old. In this version, you are Chuck. Mom: Chuck! Why are you writing on the wall with my lipstick? Chuck: But.... but.... I... well, I ..... Mom: I mean it Charles! I want an explanation, and I want it NOW! Chuck: I... well... I didn't mean to make you mad............... but, PAM FLUSHED A TENNIS BALL DOWN THE TOILET!!! ================ No, I don't expect everyone to connect with the analogy... ==================== Tracy Wintermute Rushcreek Ranch ==================== |
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#1103
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 11:45:31 -0800, Kurt Albershardt
wrote: Many of us were assigned several Internets worth of IPv6 address space (personally) years ago. Suddenly the IPv4 address space crisis got less urgent and I don't know when (or if) we'll finally have real use of it. Hey Kurt, This is off topic to, well, everything.... but, is in reference to all of your posts: Does that Mozilla thing have an option called "line length" or something like that? No offense meant, but; If so, please learn to use it. Thanks! ==================== Tracy Wintermute Rushcreek Ranch ==================== |
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"Tracy Wintermute" wrote in message ... On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 11:45:31 -0800, Kurt Albershardt wrote: Many of us were assigned several Internets worth of IPv6 address space (personally) years ago. Suddenly the IPv4 address space crisis got less urgent and I don't know when (or if) we'll finally have real use of it. Hey Kurt, This is off topic to, well, everything.... but, is in reference to all of your posts: Does that Mozilla thing have an option called "line length" or something like that? No offense meant, but; If so, please learn to use it. Thanks! I'm certain he knows how to use it... it's probably a case of getting him to slow down long enough to add a key. He's probably typing in a small window and watching it wrap nicely. It's definitely not coming in HTML... so the old carriage return (enter) maybe needs to be activated after every hundred or so characters. ;-) Actually, just getting him to keep hanging around is worth reading the long lines, even though they don't quote so well. I think PC users on Outlook or Outlook Express who only enable 72 character lines are tougher to read and quote than long ones which auto-wrap to the window size. |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:43:10 -0800, play_on
wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:55:31 -0600, Tracy Wintermute wrote: An honest-to-goodness no **** story: In a small town about an hour east of here, some kid got busted for operating his 'boom car' in violation of a noise ordinance. The judge sentenced him to (I think it was12 hours) locked in a room with loud non-stop polka music piped in. I heard about that. Here in Seattle (snip) You heard about that in Seattle? Wow, blows me away, seriously! I happened to be in Cambridge, OH (location of the offense) on business the day of the sentencing, and heard about it on the local radio station noon-time news report in my car. I nearly ****ed myself laughing, especially considering the vocal mannerism of the newscaster; his inflections were the same matter-of-fact presentation as his 'so-and-so was sentenced to 15 years for gross sexual imposition' announcements... had no idea the story went national. ==================== Tracy Wintermute Rushcreek Ranch ==================== |
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Hev wrote:
"George Gleason" wrote in message ... So you wrote letters? Protested the labels when this was happening in the 80's and 90's? Where the hell were you guys then? on tour with the Dead, who encouraged the free exchange of live show tapes, had over 350 at one point I've always loved the Dead's live tape ethic. One of my favorite bands, Sonic Youth, has that live taping ethic as well. And my good (drinking) buddy in college was a dirty hippie who had traveled with the Dead. He took me along to a hippie show once... old hippy twisting on the table-top and passing it around. Every MF in the house.... I mean every MF was dancing. Being used to punk/indie shows from the east it was quite the experience. Remember, you hippies taught us free love and sesame street taught us to share. I never was , and am too young to have been a "hippy" I was the manager of a thriving audio-visual company, and a regional sales manager for NEC electronics during those years as well brush cut, brooks brothers suits. the whole coporate thing George |
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play on wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:15:51 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote: "Hev" wrote in message... I buy just as many CD's as I ever have. Which you've clearly stated earlier, is practically none. You're what, 23 or 24 years old now (?) and stated that you own approximately 300 CDs. That equals roughly 1/4 of a CD per week of your lifetime, or roughly one CD per living month since birth. Come on... give it a rest. 300 CDs is over $4000 worth of music, that's a pretty good amount for someone his age. I'm certain I didn't own that many LPs when I was in my mid-20s. Al I had well over 2000 lps by the time cds came out(when I was 22) I had about 800 cd's last time I bothered to count them George |
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play on wrote:
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:57:53 GMT, George Gleason wrote: play on wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:34:45 -0500, (Mike Rivers) wrote: In article writes: The latest Newsweek has convicted criminal Martha Stewart on the cover, which also trumpets how she is wealthier than ever since her company stock has reached new highs. What kind of message does this send? That her company does better with her out of the way, in jail. Just like record companies would do better with music pirates out of the way, in jail. Unlike yourself I'm not so sure that prosecuting and harrasing the fans who are the exact target market is the solution. Al These are NOT fans FANS respect and support their artists these are thiefs and scumbags as a artist myself I can state the artists is better off without them George They are fans George... your saying they are not doesn't mean it's true. Al no Al they are NOT fans as I said Fans support their artists stealing music is hurting the artist George |
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play on wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 04:46:55 GMT, George Gleason wrote: Hev wrote: "George Gleason" wrote in message ... hev wrote: "Lorin David Schultz" wrote in message news:PO3Xd.5812$i6.1106@edtnps90... "hev" wrote: Can you back that up with a link? "Lorin David Schultz" wrote: Probably, but talk about irrelevant... "It *MUST* be true... I read it on the internet!" "Hev" wrote: Didn't think so. Fine, he http://www.v5v.ca/truth.htm Cute. In the era of price fixing, contracts that screw artists over and the industry seeking a monopoly strangle hold of the market THIS is the best that you can come up with? It seems your guilty on all fronts your screwing artists out of income from the sales of their CD's you have instituted a price fixing scheme at 0$ and you are subverting the artists contracts with your own twisted ideas in effect creating a stranglehold on the market that renders music worthless So you wrote letters? Protested the labels when this was happening in the 80's and 90's? Where the hell were you guys then? on tour with the Dead, who encouraged the free exchange of live show tapes, had over 350 at one point And I bet they also were (are) totally behind the distribution of their music on the internet. Al I don't do music on the net I have no idea where the dead stand on this I have moved from listening /buying music to creating by the time the net came to my life I have tens of thousands of hours of music to listen to. If I want any more I go to the store and buy it George |
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Well that's because they need to get that phasey high end crap that
Auto-tune does better than anything, and is on everything. But not for the pitch!!! I heard this female singer, who sounds alot like Billie. Anyone know who she is? Tom "Willie K.Yee, M.D." wrote in message ... On 2 Mar 2005 12:14:36 -0500, (Mike Rivers) wrote: In article et writes: Ella don't need no stinking Auto-tune, EVER!!!! But if it had been invented while she was actively recording, would they have used it anyway? Probably so, sadly. And they DEFINITELY would have used it to "fix" Billie Holiday. Can you imagine????? Willie K. Yee, M.D. http://users.bestweb.net/~wkyee Developer of Problem Knowledge Couplers for Psychiatry http://www.pkc.com Webmaster and Guitarist for the Big Blue Big Band http://www.bigbluebigband.org |
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"Mike Rivers" wrote in message news:znr1110247531k@trad... In article writes: I still think there is a solution on the horizon that will allow music to float around the internet for use but still preserves the industry somehow. Sure there is - you just limit the amount of music that floats around the Internet to that which is intended to be free as determined by the owners of the copyright (not by the owners of a CD or other recording). But if an independ artist (or even a major record lable) puts up some free samples on his web site, it would be even better publicity if people passed around a link to the web site rather than just a copy of the music. That way someone who liked the music wouldn't have to try to figure out who it was and find the web site to buy the CD (assuming it wasn't so popular that he couldn't miss it in a store). Sure, people would go to the site to download a song or two. Record label sites do this regularly today but I think they need to take it a step farther. Just like the day when you won't run software off of your hard drive, instead we will run software located on the net. Someone proposed that once, but it didn't pan out. The idea was that you subscribed and could run the software until your subscription ran out - just like a membership porn web site. The bandwidth of a CAT 5 ethernet network system is barely capable of this currently. We are a good ten years away (or more) from being able to do it via an internet connection. For now I am happy with my Rhapsody account. Lets me preview a lot of great, current music. I guess that means you're paying for your music. Once you buy it, do you give it away to others, or do you protect the artist by keeping it off the P2P networks? I don't download anything through Rhapsody since it costs per download. I use it like a radio. -- -Hev remove your opinion to find me he www.michaelYOURspringerOPINION.com |
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"George Gleason" wrote in message ... play on wrote: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:57:53 GMT, George Gleason wrote: play on wrote: On 7 Mar 2005 06:34:45 -0500, (Mike Rivers) wrote: In article writes: The latest Newsweek has convicted criminal Martha Stewart on the cover, which also trumpets how she is wealthier than ever since her company stock has reached new highs. What kind of message does this send? That her company does better with her out of the way, in jail. Just like record companies would do better with music pirates out of the way, in jail. Unlike yourself I'm not so sure that prosecuting and harrasing the fans who are the exact target market is the solution. Al These are NOT fans FANS respect and support their artists these are thiefs and scumbags as a artist myself I can state the artists is better off without them George They are fans George... your saying they are not doesn't mean it's true. Al no Al they are NOT fans as I said Fans support their artists stealing music is hurting the artist What you have to realize is that just because you p2p doesn't mean you can't support your favorite artists (just the same as people have always done). Whatever their status in the American pyramid will allow. -- -Hev remove your opinion to find me he www.michaelYOURspringerOPINION.com |
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"George Gleason" wrote in message ... play on wrote: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:15:51 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote: "Hev" wrote in message... I buy just as many CD's as I ever have. Which you've clearly stated earlier, is practically none. You're what, 23 or 24 years old now (?) and stated that you own approximately 300 CDs. That equals roughly 1/4 of a CD per week of your lifetime, or roughly one CD per living month since birth. Come on... give it a rest. 300 CDs is over $4000 worth of music, that's a pretty good amount for someone his age. I'm certain I didn't own that many LPs when I was in my mid-20s. Al I had well over 2000 lps by the time cds came out(when I was 22) I had about 800 cd's last time I bothered to count them So if you divide time by CD length ... hmmm. Something doesn't add up. You using them for coasters? I did own some cassette before my CD's as well. -- -Hev remove your opinion to find me he www.michaelYOURspringerOPINION.com |
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David Morgan \(MAMS\) wrote:
I think PC users on Outlook or Outlook Express who only enable 72 character lines are tougher to read and quote than long ones which auto-wrap to the window size. Actually, regular newsreaders give you 80 column lines and give a warning on any lines longer than 72 characters. With regular-style quoting it is much easier to do this than it is to deal with super-long lines that have to be broken up. This is addressed in the Emily Postnews article, I believe. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Hev wrote:
"George Gleason" wrote in message ... play on wrote: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:15:51 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote: "Hev" wrote in message... I buy just as many CD's as I ever have. Which you've clearly stated earlier, is practically none. You're what, 23 or 24 years old now (?) and stated that you own approximately 300 CDs. That equals roughly 1/4 of a CD per week of your lifetime, or roughly one CD per living month since birth. Come on... give it a rest. 300 CDs is over $4000 worth of music, that's a pretty good amount for someone his age. I'm certain I didn't own that many LPs when I was in my mid-20s. Al I had well over 2000 lps by the time cds came out(when I was 22) I had about 800 cd's last time I bothered to count them So if you divide time by CD length ... hmmm. Something doesn't add up. You using them for coasters? I did own some cassette before my CD's as well. i am not sure what you implying but many cd's were of lps I liked but wanted the cd version often as little as 25 minutes of music on the cd George |
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"George Gleason" wrote in message
... Hev wrote: "George Gleason" wrote in message ... play on wrote: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:15:51 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote: "Hev" wrote in message... I buy just as many CD's as I ever have. Which you've clearly stated earlier, is practically none. You're what, 23 or 24 years old now (?) and stated that you own approximately 300 CDs. That equals roughly 1/4 of a CD per week of your lifetime, or roughly one CD per living month since birth. Come on... give it a rest. 300 CDs is over $4000 worth of music, that's a pretty good amount for someone his age. I'm certain I didn't own that many LPs when I was in my mid-20s. Al I had well over 2000 lps by the time cds came out(when I was 22) I had about 800 cd's last time I bothered to count them So if you divide time by CD length ... hmmm. Something doesn't add up. You using them for coasters? I did own some cassette before my CD's as well. i am not sure what you implying but many cd's were of lps I liked but wanted the cd version often as little as 25 minutes of music on the cd Not implying anything.... well other than that is a whole lotta music to listen to. Where did you find the time? Nice collection. -hev |
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Hev wrote:
"George Gleason" wrote in message ... Hev wrote: "George Gleason" wrote in message ... play on wrote: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 23:15:51 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" wrote: "Hev" wrote in message... I buy just as many CD's as I ever have. Which you've clearly stated earlier, is practically none. You're what, 23 or 24 years old now (?) and stated that you own approximately 300 CDs. That equals roughly 1/4 of a CD per week of your lifetime, or roughly one CD per living month since birth. Come on... give it a rest. 300 CDs is over $4000 worth of music, that's a pretty good amount for someone his age. I'm certain I didn't own that many LPs when I was in my mid-20s. Al I had well over 2000 lps by the time cds came out(when I was 22) I had about 800 cd's last time I bothered to count them So if you divide time by CD length ... hmmm. Something doesn't add up. You using them for coasters? I did own some cassette before my CD's as well. i am not sure what you implying but many cd's were of lps I liked but wanted the cd version often as little as 25 minutes of music on the cd Not implying anything.... well other than that is a whole lotta music to listen to. Where did you find the time? Nice collection. -hev I had two older brothers who left me theirs when they left home cut out bins record clubs and jobs from the age of about 10 yo also owned a yashica slr before 10th grade George |
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"Tracy Wintermute" wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:43:10 -0800, play_on wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:55:31 -0600, Tracy Wintermute wrote: An honest-to-goodness no **** story: In a small town about an hour east of here, some kid got busted for operating his 'boom car' in violation of a noise ordinance. The judge sentenced him to (I think it was12 hours) locked in a room with loud non-stop polka music piped in. I heard about that. Here in Seattle (snip) You heard about that in Seattle? Wow, blows me away, seriously! I happened to be in Cambridge, OH (location of the offense) on business the day of the sentencing, and heard about it on the local radio station noon-time news report in my car. I nearly ****ed myself laughing, especially considering the vocal mannerism of the newscaster; his inflections were the same matter-of-fact presentation as his 'so-and-so was sentenced to 15 years for gross sexual imposition' announcements... had no idea the story went national. In ten years, look for the kid's new punk polka band to sweep the nation. Peace, Paul |
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"Hev" wrote in message
... I don't download anything through Rhapsody since it costs per download. I use it like a radio. OK, I'm done. This dip**** was talking about how he sees using services like Rhapsody as his version of 'supporting legitimate downloading', and now says that he doesn't download from Rhapsody because it costs money. He listens to Rhapsody and then looks for free versions online. What a maroon. -- Dave Martin DMA, Inc Nashville, TN |
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