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Mackie 32-8-2 mixer
I have a chance to buy one for $300, but I've read that the pres and the eq are pretty bad.Is this true? What would be a good alternative?
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 18:53:00 -0700 (PDT), Joseph
wrote: I have a chance to buy one for $300, but I've read that the pres and the eq are pretty bad.Is this true? What would be a good alternative? For $300? Nothing. |
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On 10/2/2018 9:53 PM, Joseph wrote:
I have a chance to buy one for $300, but I've read that the pres and the eq are pretty bad.Is this true? What would be a good alternative? What do you want for $300? A good alternative would be an API 3208. I think it's about $45,000. Just be sure that you get the power supply and multi-conductor power cable with it. Lots of good music that you've never heard has been recorded on Mackie 8-bus consoles. You have to watch the internal levels because they didn't really have the gain structure to support full levels all the way through. And it's really a multitrack recording console, something that you don't find on the shelf these days, at least not for a home studio price. The preamp circuit in the 8-bus is almost identical to their Onyx, which they used in their premium line of mixers for many years. It's pretty good for a no-character preamp. You have to pay extra for classic distortion. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 7:07:45 PM UTC-7, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 10/2/2018 9:53 PM, Joseph wrote: I have a chance to buy one for $300, but I've read that the pres and the eq are pretty bad.Is this true? What would be a good alternative? What do you want for $300? A good alternative would be an API 3208. I think it's about $45,000. Just be sure that you get the power supply and multi-conductor power cable with it. Lots of good music that you've never heard has been recorded on Mackie 8-bus consoles. You have to watch the internal levels because they didn't really have the gain structure to support full levels all the way through. And it's really a multitrack recording console, something that you don't find on the shelf these days, at least not for a home studio price. The preamp circuit in the 8-bus is almost identical to their Onyx, which they used in their premium line of mixers for many years. It's pretty good for a no-character preamp. You have to pay extra for classic distortion. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com I'm not trying to get something necessarily for $300. That's just what the Mackie is going for. I'm willing to spend about 3x that. Still not high budget, I know. And I don't need 32 channels....12 would be enough. |
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On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 7:07:45 PM UTC-7, Mike Rivers wrote:
On 10/2/2018 9:53 PM, Joseph wrote: I have a chance to buy one for $300, but I've read that the pres and the eq are pretty bad.Is this true? What would be a good alternative? What do you want for $300? A good alternative would be an API 3208. I think it's about $45,000. Just be sure that you get the power supply and multi-conductor power cable with it. Lots of good music that you've never heard has been recorded on Mackie 8-bus consoles. You have to watch the internal levels because they didn't really have the gain structure to support full levels all the way through. And it's really a multitrack recording console, something that you don't find on the shelf these days, at least not for a home studio price. The preamp circuit in the 8-bus is almost identical to their Onyx, which they used in their premium line of mixers for many years. It's pretty good for a no-character preamp. You have to pay extra for classic distortion. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com Speaking of the Onyx, for a little more (around $450) I could pick up the 1640i Firewire 16 Channel Mackie Onyx.A 16 channel console seems about right, 32 seems like overkill for my purposes.You recommend the Onyx? |
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On 10/2/2018 10:22 PM, Joseph wrote:
I'm not trying to get something necessarily for $300. That's just what the Mackie is going for. I'm willing to spend about 3x that. Still not high budget, I know. And I don't need 32 channels....12 would be enough. How much of a mixer do you need? How are you planning to use it? As I said, the Mackie 8-bus is really designed for multitrack studio use, and that's a hard thing to find these days since the majority of people recording are doing everything in a computer that traditionally was done in a mixer and aren't using a mixer for anything but mic preamps and a monitor controller. You might look around for one of the Allen & Heath Mix Wizard models or a small Crest if you only need mic preamps and maybe want to sum a few mics on the way to the computer. I don't know how much better (if at all) it would be than the Mackie, but you might feel better not getting a Mackie. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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On 10/2/2018 10:48 PM, Joseph wrote:
for a little more (around $450) I could pick up the 1640i Firewire 16 Channel Mackie Onyx.A 16 channel console seems about right, 32 seems like overkill for my purposes.You recommend the Onyx? I have an Onyx 1640i along side my Soundcraft 600 and I actually use the Mackie more than the Soundcraft these days, but that's mostly because of the Soundcraft's age and the noisy pots and switches that go along with the age. But I use a Mackie hard disk recorder more than I use a DAW for recording, and I appreciate the Soundcraft's metering and routing that are lacking on the Mackie. When using the Firewire I/O on the Mackie (the converters are a good match for the rest of the mixer) and a DAW program, it can almost work like an in-line console for tracking, but still, I'd rather use the Soundcraft. My Soundcraft and the Mackie 8-bus are sort of contemporaries. I chose the Soundcraft because at the time I had a recording truck and other engineers were using it, not just me. I figured that buying a Soundcraft was kind of like buying a Toyota - nobody would complain about it because of what they thought of Mackie. It served me well, but now it's more than 30 years old and, sadly, hasn't reached "desirable vintage" status - so it's worth about as much today as a Mackie 8-bus. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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Joseph wrote:
I have a chance to buy one for $300, but I've read that the pres and the eq are pretty bad.Is this true? What would be a good alternative? You can mix on it. It's workable. You don't need the preamps anyway, since in the modern age you can just track through an external preamp and lay one track per mike down since there is no worry about running out of tracks to tape. The EQ.... you could do worse... you could do a lot better but you can certainly do worse. But again, you can use the DAW EQ for fine work and the console EQ for rough tone-shaping and be pretty happy with it. Mute all unused channels, keep the meters out of the yellow zone... you want peaks at -20dB on the meters. The mix bus has zero headroom, but on the other hand it's quiet enough that you can just keep the levels down and not worry about it. It's no API by any means, but you're not going to find an API for $300. I have heard some very fine work mixed on a Mackie 8-buss. It's more effort to work on than a higher end console but that's how life is. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Joseph wrote:
I'm not trying to get something necessarily for $300. That's just what the Mackie is going for. I'm willing to spend about 3x that. Still not high budget, I know. And I don't need 32 channels....12 would be enough. Do you need all those busses to tape? If you're just mixing down and you only need 12 channels, you might consider the Allen and Heath Mix Wizard or the 16-channel Midas Venice. They are designed more for PA work than recording work but if you're not married to having sends and returns to tape they are easier to mix on. The Venice was the first low-cost console with proper EQ. Watch out with the used Midas Venice... if the EQ controls wear out they don't just become intermittent but start whistling. So don't get one that came out of heavy rental service. Hmm, I guess that's good advice for any console, really. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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david gourley wrote:
Glad to hear that about the Midas. I just got a killer deal on a mint- condition Venice F32 that was only used about 6 times before the sound company moved to digital consoles. Most seem to be holding on to them as backup systems now. The controls don't feel like a high end console, but it sounds amazingly good for what it is, and the EQ does what I expect it to do. I don't spend a lot of time worrying about muting everything although you do need to be more careful about gain structure than with a high end console. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Joseph wrote:
I have a chance to buy one for $300, but I've read that the pres and the eq are pretty bad.Is this true? What would be a good alternative? They're pretty good mixers. Just never light the yellow lights on the meters. -- Les Cargill |
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I hooked it up and I've been running it interfaced to my daw through my delta 1010. It does what I need it to do and sounds pretty good. Thinking about pulling out my Tascam 38-8 now that I have a mixer again. Anyone know anyone who still works on those (the Tascam)? If I remember right, it needs a drive belt replaced.
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On 8/10/2018 4:56 PM, Joseph wrote:
I hooked it up and I've been running it interfaced to my daw through my delta 1010. It does what I need it to do and sounds pretty good. Thinking about pulling out my Tascam 38-8 now that I have a mixer again. Anyone know anyone who still works on those (the Tascam)? If I remember right, it needs a drive belt replaced. Why on earth would you want to resurrect one of those ? Just run whatever DAW tracks thru Magneto or something similar if you want a sound-effect. geoff (Yes, I once had a 388 ! And a 24 chan Mackie 8-Bus) |
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On 10/8/2018 6:11 AM, geoff wrote:
Why on earth would you want to resurrect one of those ? Just run whatever DAW tracks thru Magneto or something similar if you want a sound-effect. Work flow. You don't have to fuss with a computer while tracking, and limiting the number of tracks means you have to make decisions when recording. -- For a good time, call http://mikeriversaudio.wordpress.com |
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Joseph wrote:
I hooked it up and I've been running it interfaced to my daw through my del= ta 1010. It does what I need it to do and sounds pretty good. Thinking abou= t pulling out my Tascam 38-8 now that I have a mixer again. Anyone know any= one who still works on those (the Tascam)? If I remember right, it needs a = drive belt replaced. It needs drive belts, a new pinch roller, a rough alignment and it _likely_ needs some of those conductive rivets resoldered after so long. Plenty of techs will work on them, even Tascam service. Get a new alignment tape too, since your alignment tape has likely gone out of spec after so long. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 3:11:52 AM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
On 8/10/2018 4:56 PM, Joseph wrote: I hooked it up and I've been running it interfaced to my daw through my delta 1010. It does what I need it to do and sounds pretty good. Thinking about pulling out my Tascam 38-8 now that I have a mixer again. Anyone know anyone who still works on those (the Tascam)? If I remember right, it needs a drive belt replaced. Why on earth would you want to resurrect one of those ? Just run whatever DAW tracks thru Magneto or something similar if you want a sound-effect. geoff (Yes, I once had a 388 ! And a 24 chan Mackie 8-Bus) My mistake.It's not a 388, just a 38. And why resurrect it? To access the tracks I recorded on it so I can transfer them to digital. Lots of lost music there I want to retrieve. |
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On 9/10/2018 1:26 AM, Joseph wrote:
On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 3:11:52 AM UTC-7, geoff wrote: On 8/10/2018 4:56 PM, Joseph wrote: I hooked it up and I've been running it interfaced to my daw through my delta 1010. It does what I need it to do and sounds pretty good. Thinking about pulling out my Tascam 38-8 now that I have a mixer again. Anyone know anyone who still works on those (the Tascam)? If I remember right, it needs a drive belt replaced. Why on earth would you want to resurrect one of those ? Just run whatever DAW tracks thru Magneto or something similar if you want a sound-effect. geoff (Yes, I once had a 388 ! And a 24 chan Mackie 8-Bus) My mistake.It's not a 388, just a 38. And why resurrect it? To access the tracks I recorded on it so I can transfer them to digital. Lots of lost music there I want to retrieve. Good reason ! geoff |
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