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Scott Dorsey wrote:
hank alrich wrote: Modern powered PA speakers are using digital amps, and the packages are surprisingly lightweight, considering. The new 1000W Mackie SRM350 weighs 23 lbs. The QSC K series boxes weigh 27, 32, and 41 lbs. for the 8", 10", and 12" models. Yeah, but I can buy those same digital amps in racks, and if I do that the speakers are even more lightweight! And you just gave up a seat in the van to a rack, so now we need another vehicle€¦ To be honest with a 23 lb speaker that size, I worry a lot about structural rigidity and keeping resonances down. A little more weight might not be a bad thing. I agree, but I accept that lower priced spreads are not Meyer. That UPA-1P at 77 lbs. is more like it, but I no longer want to lift that onto a stand by myself. I still have my UPA's, and with the steel tilting bracket supports I welded up they push 90 lbs. A decade ago I could lift that up onto a stand. Now, no thanks! Amps and drivers can be matched more precisely when the length of the speaker wire is a known constant in the equations, and the very short lengths of speaker wire displace a lot of heavy cable needed to reach passive speakers, especially if we are bi-amping our system. I'll buy that, and it's ALSO possible to do more effective speaker protection by limiting at the amplifier, if you know exactly what the speaker is and how it overloads. I haven't seen any of these boxes that don't have protective peak limited as part of the amp package, but those are probably out there, too, at a lower price. Yeah, you must run power, and yeah, it's a bit of a PITA, but overall you wind up hauling less wire, handling fewer packages, and enjoying better performance more consistently. Until an amp fails and someone has to go up on a truss to get the cabinet down. --scott Yep, no free lunch. Wouldn't be any different if one lost a driver in a flown cab. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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Sean Conolly wrote:
Finally, it's not something to skimp on. I've heard several in the $300 range that sound much worse than a plain passive speaker. This. Hear before you buy. Don't toss money at GC of MF based on some claim in the online store, or from the manufacturers of the really cheap stuff, either. They cannot afford to be honest there. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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"hank alrich" wrote in message
... Sean Conolly wrote: Finally, it's not something to skimp on. I've heard several in the $300 range that sound much worse than a plain passive speaker. This. Hear before you buy. Don't toss money at GC of MF based on some claim in the online store, or from the manufacturers of the really cheap stuff, either. They cannot afford to be honest there. Even better, look at how the speakers are reviewed in the online stores and then go listen in person. You may find yourself wondering if the reviewers even have functioning ears. Sean |
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Les Cargill wrote:
(hank alrich) wrote: Sean Conolly wrote: Finally, it's not something to skimp on. I've heard several in the $300 range that sound much worse than a plain passive speaker. This. Hear before you buy. Don't toss money at GC of MF based on some claim in the online store, or from the manufacturers of the really cheap stuff, either. They cannot afford to be honest there. PA from Guitar Center is rarely much good. An informed purchaser can do okay. The gullible get the ride. If the staff at GC knows you're gigging, you can also sometimes ask them. It works for them if you remember them and come back to them. Because they carry so much stuff, it's worth it for you, too. Works well. And then the staff turns over. I have found GC handy several times, mainly because the one in Northcross Mall in Austin is diagonally across from Go Dance's studio there. -- shut up and play your guitar * HankAlrich.Com HankandShaidriMusic.Com YouTube.Com/WalkinayMusic |
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On 10/30/2014 2:30 PM, hank alrich wrote:
Les Cargill wrote: (hank alrich) wrote: Sean Conolly wrote: Finally, it's not something to skimp on. I've heard several in the $300 range that sound much worse than a plain passive speaker. This. Hear before you buy. Don't toss money at GC of MF based on some claim in the online store, or from the manufacturers of the really cheap stuff, either. They cannot afford to be honest there. PA from Guitar Center is rarely much good. An informed purchaser can do okay. The gullible get the ride. If the staff at GC knows you're gigging, you can also sometimes ask them. It works for them if you remember them and come back to them. Because they carry so much stuff, it's worth it for you, too. Works well. And then the staff turns over. I have found GC handy several times, mainly because the one in Northcross Mall in Austin is diagonally across from Go Dance's studio there. From my experience, the basic floor staff has a high turnover rate, but the department managers and store managers tend to be fairly stable. Establish a professional reputation with the senior staff helps a lot with service quality. Heck, I got invited to a seminar with legendary engineer Eddie Kramer through my GC , um ...connections. [YMMV] However, the bottom line (as always) is to do one's homework. == Later... Ron C -- |
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